[PHP] webserver response-time, how?
Im trying to find a way of getting the responsetime from a remote webserver before it actually starts sending some output for your browser to read. Any ideas?? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
I am doing some php work for a local company who uses a mac. I was telling them that I use apache as my webserver and they want to know what they can use as their webserver. I know nothing about Macs and don't think you an run apache but I may be all wrong...what do mac owners use for a webserver? _A_ mac? Do I sense the fragrance of ancient hardware? First place you want to look is apple.com. After reading the white pages on Mac OS X and Mac OS X Server, you really should plug apple web server and macintosh web server and other variants into your favorite search site and look around. You might even run into the fact that a Mac (pre-Mac OS X) was once considered practically impenetrable. (I don't remember if that challenge was ever defeated, the industry just seems to have moved on.) More information than you probably want: Mac OSses 8 and 9 have a personal web server built it. There are also freeware/shareware servers available that will run on Mac OSses 7 and 8. There are some commercial webservers, as well, some of which are being maintained and updated for Mac OS X, one has already been mentioned. I know of a live site being maintained professionally, serving FileMaker files on the web with the personal web server under Mac OS 8.6. It's a low-traffic site, of course. I think there's still an SE running System 6 and serving (hobby) web pages somewhere out there, too, just to show it can be done. Haven't looked for a while. But you should understand that the Mac OS previous to Mac OS X was cooperative multitasking, and it was difficult to serve multiple requests simultaneously on those machines. on-topic It'd surprise me if you could serve php on a pre-Mac OS X machine, but you can definitely serve perl (MacPerl) on them. As the others have said, I'd recommend Mac OS X for your customer, for a couple of reasons: First, php is already installed, or, at least, it was there on Mac OS X 10.2 when I got my copy of that. It needs to be updated for security reasons, but it is already in place. All I did was uncomment a couple of lines in httpd.conf and I was testing php pages on my iBook. (Perl is there, too, of course. Perl 5.8 will probably make it into Panther. Java is also there, and installing Tomcat/Struts, and the like is not all that hard.) Second, unless you need to build an absolutely impenetrable site, you and your customer will prefer to have the full Unix-family OS underlying Mac OS X. (Mac OS X is pretty secure, too, anyway. If you need more than that, you might want to look at openbsd, which, incidentally, does run on some Mac hardware.) Third, your customer really doesn't want to serve their site on a box that is also being used to run applications. So, even if the box they are thinking of putting the site on isn't a Mac OS X box, they really want another box, and they might as well get Mac OS X for that box. /on-topic -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 04:49 AM, Richard Baskett wrote: on 8/26/03 10:50 AM, Edward Peloke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am doing some php work for a local company who uses a mac. I was telling them that I use apache as my webserver and they want to know what they can use as their webserver. I know nothing about Macs and don't think you an run apache but I may be all wrong...what do mac owners use for a webserver? Thanks, Eddie My primary machine is a Mac OS X machine and I run Apache, whatever version you would like, PHP, MySQL and all of the other fun stuff. Plus I administer a couple xserves and of course they can run it all also. Now if you are using OS 9 then tell them they need to upgrade to OS X. OS 9 just has too many problems and shouldnt be used as a webserver in my opinion. Actually, to the best of my knowledge you cannot run a decent server on Mac OS 10 (X), and certainly can't run PHP/MySQL, which is the main reason I upgraded to OSX. But if they're running anything less than a G4, Mac OSX may be too hungry?!? Justin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
on 8/27/03 8:40 AM, Justin French at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, to the best of my knowledge you cannot run a decent server on
Mac OS 10 (X), and certainly can't run PHP/MySQL, which is the main
reason I upgraded to OSX.
But if they're running anything less than a G4, Mac OSX may be too
hungry?!?
Justin
Actually you can, 4D Webstar (4.5 on Mac Classic). So secure and stable that
the US Army used it for their web site.
Having said that, let me also say that WebSTAR is crap compared to Apache.
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[PHP] webserver for mac
Hello all, I am doing some php work for a local company who uses a mac. I was telling them that I use apache as my webserver and they want to know what they can use as their webserver. I know nothing about Macs and don't think you an run apache but I may be all wrong...what do mac owners use for a webserver? Thanks, Eddie -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
what do mac owners use for a webserver? OS X users (Server and Client) use Apache 1.x, which is built-in. People with earlier versions of the operating system (OS 9 and earlier) used WebStar (I don't know if it supports PHP) or WebTen by Tenon (which is just a version of Apache and does support PHP). There may be others but those are the big two, I believe. Larry -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
[PHP] webserver for macIf your company is using MAC OS X, apache is the built in webserver. If they are using less than that, apache is not going to work. I would suggest that you have your client use OS X. You can use the single user version if you are going to host just one site, if it's going to multiple site, user OS X Server. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Php. Net Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: [PHP] webserver for mac Hello all, I am doing some php work for a local company who uses a mac. I was telling them that I use apache as my webserver and they want to know what they can use as their webserver. I know nothing about Macs and don't think you an run apache but I may be all wrong...what do mac owners use for a webserver? Thanks, Eddie -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:50:27 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Peloke) wrote: Hello all, I am doing some php work for a local company who uses a mac. I was telling them that I use apache as my webserver and they want to know what they can use as their webserver. I know nothing about Macs and don't think you an run apache but I may be all wrong...what do mac owners use for a webserver? MacOS X runs Apache PHP MYSQL and probably anything else that you can run on Linux/BSD. Actually it comes with Apache as default server. Thanks, Eddie -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Andu -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
on 8/26/03 10:50 AM, Edward Peloke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am doing some php work for a local company who uses a mac. I was telling them that I use apache as my webserver and they want to know what they can use as their webserver. I know nothing about Macs and don't think you an run apache but I may be all wrong...what do mac owners use for a webserver? Thanks, Eddie My primary machine is a Mac OS X machine and I run Apache, whatever version you would like, PHP, MySQL and all of the other fun stuff. Plus I administer a couple xserves and of course they can run it all also. Now if you are using OS 9 then tell them they need to upgrade to OS X. OS 9 just has too many problems and shouldn¹t be used as a webserver in my opinion. Cheers! Rick Do all the good you can, By all the means you can, In all the ways you can, In all the places you can, At all the times you can, To all the people you can, As long as ever you can. - John Wesley -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Webserver-Administration
How can I use PHP to admin my Apache over the browser? How do big providers allow their customers to admin their subdomains, forwarders, ftp-accounts over the webbrowser? Apache should not run under the root account, or?! -- Jochen Kaechelin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Webserver-Administration
look up webmin on your favorite search engine. Adam On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, [ISO-8859-1] Jochen Kächelin wrote: How can I use PHP to admin my Apache over the browser? How do big providers allow their customers to admin their subdomains, forwarders, ftp-accounts over the webbrowser? Apache should not run under the root account, or?! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] WebServer
Ricardo, I'd bet that behind a 256kbps connection you'll run out of bandwidth long before you run out of CPU, memory, or disk on any machine that costs more than about $500USD - but your mileage may vary depending on your application. My personal experience is that behind my DSL connection, I run out of bandwidth far before I run out of CPU and memory on my PII 233 that's running a reasonably complex web app with heavy DB usage. --Brent On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 05:30, rick wrote: Dear Members , Does anybody of you have a webserver at home using ADSL or other connections ? If any , could you tell me What would be the acceptable Hardware to run 5 or more sites at home with an 256 k ADSL ? (Memory , proccesor , etc etc ) Do I have to have Two Servers ? (The WebServer ) and the Intranet Server to access through my computer ? Would you help me please in a near future with a few questions about how to set up and so on .??? Thanks guys in advance Ricardo -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] WebServer
AOL UK say their ADSL service isnt good for hosting because it is asymmetrical: you can download data faster than you can send it out which is fine for surfing the net but not so useful for running a server.(I just think AOL dont want people hosting servers using their service though!) We have a PHP webserver at school: It doesnt get heavy useage but we run VNC, a chat server, ftp server, MySQL and Apache/PHP on Win98 and dont have any problems with performance! Brent Rieck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ricardo, I'd bet that behind a 256kbps connection you'll run out of bandwidth long before you run out of CPU, memory, or disk on any machine that costs more than about $500USD - but your mileage may vary depending on your application. My personal experience is that behind my DSL connection, I run out of bandwidth far before I run out of CPU and memory on my PII 233 that's running a reasonably complex web app with heavy DB usage. --Brent On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 05:30, rick wrote: Dear Members , Does anybody of you have a webserver at home using ADSL or other connections ? If any , could you tell me What would be the acceptable Hardware to run 5 or more sites at home with an 256 k ADSL ? (Memory , proccesor , etc etc ) Do I have to have Two Servers ? (The WebServer ) and the Intranet Server to access through my computer ? Would you help me please in a near future with a few questions about how to set up and so on .??? Thanks guys in advance Ricardo -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] WebServer
Dear Members , Does anybody of you have a webserver at home using ADSL or other connections ? If any , could you tell me What would be the acceptable Hardware to run 5 or more sites at home with an 256 k ADSL ? (Memory , proccesor , etc etc ) Do I have to have Two Servers ? (The WebServer ) and the Intranet Server to access through my computer ? Would you help me please in a near future with a few questions about how to set up and so on .??? Thanks guys in advance Ricardo
Re: [PHP] WebServer
Rick, Comments intersperesed below ... On Friday 28 December 2001 09:30 am, rick wrote: Dear Members , Does anybody of you have a webserver at home using ADSL or other connections ? The answer is that depends For example my telco has me behind their own firewall, and the IP number my NIC is seeing is 10.38.73.5 but the outside world sees as 142.177.238.56. Ah, the magic of NAT. This can be overcome by using one of the, for lack of a better term, IP aliasing services, like dynamicdns.org. Their software constantly monitors the IP you come from and maintains a routing table. Thus someone looking for www.mysite.ca, would first of all be directed to them, and then to my IP. If you are fortunate enough to have a fixed IP number, the above is moot. If any , could you tell me What would be the acceptable Hardware to run 5 or more sites at home with an 256 k ADSL ? (Memory , proccesor , etc etc ) Depends on traffic and what you're serving and the level of traffic. If mostly static web pages, almost anything from a P100 on up. RAM is always good. Many phone companies meter traffic and allow only so many free gigabytes permonth, then they start charging. If you're not supposed to be running a web server on your connection, that's how they'll find you. Do I have to have Two Servers ? (The WebServer ) and the Intranet Server to access through my computer ? This is really off topic for the list, and better addressed through a security site. Do a Google search on firewall DMZ and you will find some very comprehensive articles, ranging from general overviews to specific recommendations. Generally the stuff at risk is on the web server and beyond, or on, your firewall machine. Important stuff is behind the firewall. Would you help me please in a near future with a few questions about how to set up and so on .??? That's not really PHP specific, and would be better addressed on a security or webserver list. (Note how apolitical I'm being, not assuming you are using Linux or BSD and Apache.) Thanks guys in advance You're welcome. There is some really good stuff out there. Miles Thompson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Webserver response lockup
Hi all, I'm using Apache 1.3.22 with PHP 4.0.6 running on linux with kernel 2.4.12. Some PHP pages very often get my server into the state show below: This an example from my server-status 8-9 12249 0/0/0 W 0.00 2451 1196595285 0.0 0.00 0.00 212.55.224.66 shadow.ana.sk POST /admin/page_detail.php HTTP/1.0 After some amount of time - within an hour - all my server threads are in the state W - i.e. Sending Reply and the webserver starts responding unexpectedly, mainly PHP scrips are run uncorrectly. Has anyone experienced a problem like this? Can anybody give a hint? Thank You all Viktor Kollarik -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
