RE: [PHP] [AWF-TOPIC] Create from PHP on the Fly???
[snip] I think Jay probably understands, but for those who don't, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Quite frankly i don't mind people using anything that i open source in commercial applications. When i do mind i don't release it as open source :-) [/snip] ***applause*** Well said! (I wanted to say other stuff here, but I just couldn't say it well this morning. I will say that there is no shame in profiting from commercial use projects). -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] [AWF-TOPIC] Create from PHP on the Fly???
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 07:58, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] I think Jay probably understands, but for those who don't, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Quite frankly i don't mind people using anything that i open source in commercial applications. When i do mind i don't release it as open source :-) [/snip] ***applause*** Well said! (I wanted to say other stuff here, but I just couldn't say it well this morning. I will say that there is no shame in profiting from commercial use projects). Perhaps I've been a little misunderstood. I love the whole open source movement, I love that code can be shared, and I was happy to release my own code as open source. I only have issues with the GPL, and licenses like it, that seem to me to cause the developer to relinquish all control of their work. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [AWF-TOPIC] Create from PHP on the Fly???
I hear you robert. I will be shot down for saying the following but here goes: The GPL tends to scare people who are not very familiar with open source. They believe GPL and Open Source are synonyms which obviously isn't true. Unfortunately this is what most people (outside the open source community) i have spoken to on the subject seem to think. best regards Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 07:58, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] I think Jay probably understands, but for those who don't, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Quite frankly i don't mind people using anything that i open source in commercial applications. When i do mind i don't release it as open source :-) [/snip] ***applause*** Well said! (I wanted to say other stuff here, but I just couldn't say it well this morning. I will say that there is no shame in profiting from commercial use projects). Perhaps I've been a little misunderstood. I love the whole open source movement, I love that code can be shared, and I was happy to release my own code as open source. I only have issues with the GPL, and licenses like it, that seem to me to cause the developer to relinquish all control of their work. Cheers, Rob. -- Raditha Dissanayake. http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ | http://www.raditha/megaupload/ Lean and mean Secure FTP applet with | Mega Upload - PHP file uploader Graphical User Inteface. Just 150 KB | with progress bar. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [AWF-TOPIC] Create from PHP on the Fly???
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 14:48, Evan Nemerson wrote: I think Jay probably understands, but for those who don't, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html The problem with this kind of freedom (puts fiery backdraft gear on) is that it enables an entity with more resources than the original developer(s) to usurp the entire project. It also provides no incentive for anyone to ever help support the developer(s). I believe in free as in open source, free as in non-commercial use, but as soon as someone profits from the work, there should be some kind of compensation for the time and effort. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [AWF-TOPIC] Create from PHP on the Fly???
Sometimes a client wants PDF support in a web app as a perk, but is _not_ willing to pay for it simply because it is not worth it to them. Perhaps he is working on a low-budget site such as this. clib and pdflib, IIRC, do not have a pricing system that asks for a percentage, or varies depending on the size of the company, etc. It's simply not practical for them. $500 or $1000 licenses can be expensive for the small business. Beyond that, I'll reply off-list. This isn't the place for a flamewar. On Thursday 02 October 2003 12:25 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 14:48, Evan Nemerson wrote: I think Jay probably understands, but for those who don't, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html The problem with this kind of freedom (puts fiery backdraft gear on) is that it enables an entity with more resources than the original developer(s) to usurp the entire project. It also provides no incentive for anyone to ever help support the developer(s). I believe in free as in open source, free as in non-commercial use, but as soon as someone profits from the work, there should be some kind of compensation for the time and effort. Cheers, Rob. -- Evan Nemerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [AWF-TOPIC] Create from PHP on the Fly???
Hi, Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 14:48, Evan Nemerson wrote: I think Jay probably understands, but for those who don't, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html The problem with this kind of freedom (puts fiery backdraft gear on) is that it enables an entity with more resources than the original developer(s) to usurp the entire project. It also provides no incentive for anyone to ever help support the developer(s). I believe in free as in open source, free as in non-commercial use, but as soon as someone profits from the work, there should be some kind of compensation for the time and effort. Opinion: Well Robert, there's no way that it can be controlled. And controlling how you distribute / use your open source stuff would pretty much go against the idea of free software. Having said that i have always believed that GPL doesn't really give you any freedom. That's why i don't release anything under that particular licence and use JOSL ,BSD or something similar. Quite frankly i don't mind people using anything that i open source in commercial applications. When i do mind i don't release it as open source :-) best regards Cheers, Rob. -- Raditha Dissanayake. http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ | http://www.raditha/megaupload/ Lean and mean Secure FTP applet with | Mega Upload - PHP file uploader Graphical User Inteface. Just 150 KB | with progress bar. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
