Re: [PHP] PHP Book

2008-03-26 Thread Wolf

 alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 What's the good PHP book to learn PHP?
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP Book

2008-03-26 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What's the good PHP book to learn PHP?
  
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STFU would be better.  ;-P  He was the same one who posted the
same question on 20 March.

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Re: [PHP] php book

2008-03-20 Thread Lamp Lists
opinions of good book is almost the same as opinion of good car.
I can suggest you to go to barnes and noble or borders or any other bookstore, 
buy cup of coffee or tea, grab all php books from shelf and read some chapters. 
you are no going to learn anything, rather to compare styles. some authors 
use a lot of code, some to much code, some explain to details some throw just 
links where to find more info, some explain functions with examples, some just 
in general... you know what I mean.
spend 2-3 hours going through the books and then pick one you like (the style) 
the most.

my 2 cents.

-ll



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what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php?

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Re: [PHP] php book

2008-03-20 Thread Wolf

 Lamp Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 opinions of good book is almost the same as opinion of good car.

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I myself prefer books along the lines of the Sam's teach yourself * in * 
hours/minutes series.  I picked up the PHP/MySQL/Apache book when I first 
started learning PHP and still keep it around.  I have looked at the Bibles 
around for PHP and other languages but prefer books that give you the entire 
chunk of code they are talking about instead of piece-mealing it together,  
It's the Context that is important to me.

But I generally keep a browser pointed to php.net and search the functions on 
the site  while trying to get a particularly irritating bit of code to mesh 
with the rest.

YMMV,

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Re: [PHP] php book

2008-03-19 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php?

This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend
starting with a book.  I'd recommend the online manual at
http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing
scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break.  Others
may recommend good printed material though.

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Re: [PHP] php book

2008-03-19 Thread tedd

At 11:04 AM -0400 3/19/08, Daniel Brown wrote:

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants 
to learn php?


This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend
starting with a book.  I'd recommend the online manual at
http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing
scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break.  Others
may recommend good printed material though.



I'm sure we have a page somewhere that shows what tutorial links are 
recommended. But here's a few I've used:


http://www.unf.edu/~rita0001/eresources/php_tutorials/index.htm
http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp
http://www.brainbell.com/tutors/php/php_mysql/index.html
http://www.tizag.com/phpT/
http://hudzilla.org/phpwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Cheers,

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RE: [PHP] php book

2008-03-19 Thread George Pitcher
 On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and
 wants to learn php?

 This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend
 starting with a book.  I'd recommend the online manual at
 http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing
 scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break.  Others
 may recommend good printed material though.

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I must agree with Dan's approach. I've messed with Frontier, ASP, Java and
PHP using this approach and it works for me. I always find that books just
miss out on that vital topic I need to work on.

Set up a small project (I'd recommend something database related) and look
for sample scripts in the manual and elsewhere.

Cheers

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Re: [PHP] php book

2008-03-19 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:51 AM, George Pitcher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I must agree with Dan's approach. I've messed with Frontier, ASP, Java and
  PHP using this approach and it works for me. I always find that books just
  miss out on that vital topic I need to work on.

I find that you're also going to be restricted to using the
author's methodology and preference if you follow a book, rather than
developing your own.  It would be like telling a fine artist that his
painting technique is all wrong, and that there's only one real way of
doing the job.  All of the paintings in the Louvre would look like
they were done by Disney.

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-07 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello,

on 02/06/2007 01:25 PM tedd said the following:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good
  book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.

  gets me preference ???

  Me get any money for this?

 Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers...

 I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English...
 
 No doubt -- I have enough problems with English.
 
 My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing
 out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found
 that ironically humorous.
 
 No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters.
 
 My apologies if any offense was taken.
 
 Cheers,
 
 tedd
 
 PS:  He is a native speaker, it's just not English.  :-)

No offense was taken on my part.

I am aware that the PHPClasses site is not perfect for everybody. So,
when I mention something in public related to the site, I am used to get
 reactions that really do not favour the site. I do not take that
personally though that site is basically run by MMI (Me, Myself and I).

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-07 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello,

on 02/06/2007 01:29 PM tedd said the following:
 Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is
 often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are
 obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have
 been closed a long time ago.
 
 Why are ads necessary? I don't follow.

Pay the bills. It may not be evident, but this is my full time day job.
This is not an hobby site. Not only the site needs to generate revenue
to pay for its operation costs, but also to keep me working full time on it.

It is a privilege for me to be able to work in my own project at full
time. But obviously I have to keep it as a viable business too.

That is why the site would have been closed if it were not the ads.


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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-07 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello,

on 02/07/2007 01:53 AM Richard Lynch said the following:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published
 good
 book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.
 gets me preference ???

 Me get any money for this?
 Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers...

 I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English...
 Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor
 correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native
 Portuguese speaker. ;-)

 cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like
 Spanish,
 French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct
 idiom./cultural_moment
 
 Dang I'm felling stoopid.
 
 I even have all the facts in my brain to have not made that mistake,
 had I matched up column M with row P...
 
 Sorry.

No problem. No apologies are necessary. Nobody knows everything. Even if
you knew it, it is ok to get confused once in a while. My memory used to
be better when I was younger, or at least when I did not have to work
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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-06 Thread tedd

At 8:39 PM -0600 2/5/07, Richard Lynch wrote:

On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:09 am, tedd wrote:

 At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:

Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good
 book
reviews in the past gets me preference.


 gets me preference ???

 Me get any money for this?


Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers...

I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English...


No doubt -- I have enough problems with English.

My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) 
pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading 
skills. I found that ironically humorous.


No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters.

My apologies if any offense was taken.

Cheers,

tedd

PS:  He is a native speaker, it's just not English.  :-)
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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-06 Thread tedd

At 4:04 AM -0200 2/6/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:

Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is
often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are
obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have
been closed a long time ago.


Why are ads necessary? I don't follow.

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-06 Thread Stut

tedd wrote:
My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing 
out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found 
that ironically humorous.


HumoUrous roof reading skills you've got there.


No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters.


Indeed.

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-06 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, February 6, 2007 12:04 am, Manuel Lemos wrote:
 Hello,

 on 02/06/2007 12:39 AM Richard Lynch said the following:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published
 good
 book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.
 gets me preference ???

 Me get any money for this?

 Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers...

 I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English...

 Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor
 correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native
 Portuguese speaker. ;-)

 cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like
 Spanish,
 French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct
 idiom./cultural_moment

Dang I'm felling stoopid.

I even have all the facts in my brain to have not made that mistake,
had I matched up column M with row P...

Sorry.


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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread tedd

At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:

Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book
reviews in the past gets me preference.


gets me preference ???

Me get any money for this?

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:09 -0500, tedd wrote:
 At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.
 
 gets me preference ???
 
 Me get any money for this?

No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it
will.

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RE: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Tim


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 At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.
 
 gets me preference ???
 

Quote: good English writing skills

:P

 Me get any money for this?
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Craige Leeder

How many book reviews do you suppose Manuel has written in his life time?

- Craige

On 2/5/07, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



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 At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.

 gets me preference ???


Quote: good English writing skills

:P

 Me get any money for this?

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread tedd

At 11:14 AM -0500 2/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote:

On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:09 -0500, tedd wrote:

 At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.

 gets me preference ???

 Me get any money for this?


No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it
will.


Will what?

Tingly feeling? Tingly feeling? I don't need no stinking tingly feeling!

Paraphrased from Treasure of Sierra Madre -- but somehow, it doesn't 
sound right.


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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello,

on 02/05/2007 02:09 PM tedd said the following:
 At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.
 
 gets me preference ???
 
 Me get any money for this?

Good catch! ;-)

Those that never commited a typo, throw the first stone! Oh, you just
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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello,

on 02/05/2007 02:14 PM Robert Cummings said the following:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.
 gets me preference ???

 Me get any money for this?
 
 No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it
 will.

Unfortunately, publishing book reviews is not the kind of thing that is
worth the time it took me to develop the review system. That was true in
the year 2000 and it is still true until today.

Anyway, since the system is already done, hopefully it will help all
book writers that are brave enough to invest plenty of time writing good
PHP books.

Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try
it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell
enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like
consulting.

At least maybe the reviews can benefit the authors either helping the
books sell more or getting them better known in the community and the
consulting business. When that happens, I will be satisfied and feel
compensated for all the time I invested in developing the review system.

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:09 am, tedd wrote:
 At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote:
Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good
 book
reviews in the past gets me preference.

 gets me preference ???

 Me get any money for this?

Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers...

I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English...

[This is aside from the ads jabs some are taking, which is easy to
solve -- don't use his site.]

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:56 am, Manuel Lemos wrote:
 Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that
 try
 it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell
 enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like
 consulting.

If writing the book isn't going to get you paying gigs because you're
the expert having written the book, then you're almost for sure
going to be getting paid less than minimum wage if you account the
hours correctly, as I understand it.

I can state for certain that being a Tech Reviewer is even worse pay
and little odds of it making you any money, really.  Though it is a
nifty bullet point and gives you something to talk about in a job
interview, where it can maybe pay off.

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello,

on 02/06/2007 12:43 AM Richard Lynch said the following:
 Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that
 try
 it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell
 enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like
 consulting.
 
 If writing the book isn't going to get you paying gigs because you're
 the expert having written the book, then you're almost for sure
 going to be getting paid less than minimum wage if you account the
 hours correctly, as I understand it.

Right. Most author write books because they love what they write about.

I know very few people that wrote more than one PHP book. Dedicating
time writing books is a big sacrifice. It is not the most efficient way
to make a living.

Anyway, keep in mind that a US minimum wage is a reasonable amount of
money for people in other countries. Writing books is not such a bad
money if they get published by an US or European publisher.  The whole
PHP community that buy their books should be thankful because some
writers work very hard to make a living.

Some authors of books that I reviewed in the PHPClasses site have
written me asking if I could review their new books. If that encourages
them to keep writing good books, I am pleased to help them.
Unfortunately I do not have the time to review all books that I am asked
to review. That is why I am encouraging other people with more time than
me to work on it.


 I can state for certain that being a Tech Reviewer is even worse pay
 and little odds of it making you any money, really.  Though it is a
 nifty bullet point and gives you something to talk about in a job
 interview, where it can maybe pay off.

Right. Anyway, I am not talking about being Tech Reviewer of books that
were not yet published. I am talking about published books, so there is
not even a money compensation for people that publish reviews in the
PHPClasses site. The only compensation is that reviewers will keep the
review copies for themselves.

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Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted

2007-02-05 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello,

on 02/06/2007 12:39 AM Richard Lynch said the following:
 Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good
 book
 reviews in the past gets me preference.
 gets me preference ???

 Me get any money for this?
 
 Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers...
 
 I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English...

Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor
correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native
Portuguese speaker. ;-)

cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish,
French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment


 [This is aside from the ads jabs some are taking, which is easy to
 solve -- don't use his site.]

Right. After all everybody is free to go anywhere you want or not, with
or without ads.

Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is
often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are
obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have
been closed a long time ago.

Anyway, for those very intolerant to ads, at least there is an option in
the user options page that the can check to disable pop under and
interstitial ads. This was never a secret, but I am not encouraging
anybody to use that option either. The site needs the ad revenue
generated by all the advertisiment. That option does not disable all
ads, but at least disables probably the most annoying.

For those that would like to see no ads at all and benefit from full
site loading speed, after almost 5 years of promises, in the next months
I will finally launch the package of premium services that among several
other interesting benefits, it will provide an ad free site navigation,
for a small monthly fee.

I know that only those that real care about the site will adhere. But at
least there will finally be an option for all those that avoid visiting
the site because of the ads.

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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation

2006-04-08 Thread Jad madi
it depends on your programming level and taste of reading 
I really like Advanced PHP programming but some people he's a lousy
teacher, SitePoint books are the most reader friendly books but maybe
they aren't the most valuable books in the market.

In the last two months the market got load of new PHP books but this
time it wasn't General-PHP books but php-specific-topic books, namely
design patterns, security, php5 objects etc.. 
so the best now is to look for php book talking about specific php
related topic

for me the best are
Topic   book
General Advanced PHP Programming
Security:   Ilia's security book Guide to php security
OOP patterns:   PHP design patterns
PHP5/general php:php5 power programming
Tools/extensions/internals: essential php tools

Finally the best is to read some chapters of the book to see if you like
how it's written and to check reviewers comments on Amazon.











On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 21:50 -0700, Jim Lucas wrote:
 Paul Goepfert wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy.  I already have Web
  Database Applications with PHP  MySQL by O'Reilly.
 
  Thanks,
  Paul
 

 Professional PHP5 by WROX
 

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RE: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation

2006-04-07 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy.  I already have Web
Database Applications with PHP  MySQL by O'Reilly.
[/snip]

Core PHP.

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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation

2006-04-07 Thread Jim Lucas

Paul Goepfert wrote:

Hi all,

Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy.  I already have Web
Database Applications with PHP  MySQL by O'Reilly.

Thanks,
Paul

  

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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation

2006-04-07 Thread Pablo L. de Miranda
Man,
Anothers good books:
- PHP|Architect's Guide to PHP Design Patterns, ISBN: 0973589825
- PHP 5 Objects, Patterns, and Practice, ISBN: 0973589825


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 Paul Goepfert wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy.  I already have Web
  Database Applications with PHP  MySQL by O'Reilly.
 
  Thanks,
  Paul
 
 
 Professional PHP5 by WROX

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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-21 Thread Judson Vaughn
I second O'Reilly's PHP Cookbook.  Another recommendation is Larry 
Ullman's books, especially HP Advanced for the World Wide Web. I try to 
triangulate, using several books that come at the code differently.

Jud.
Judson Vaughn
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Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

[snip]
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.
I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
in the most efficient manner.
What's a few of the better books out there?
[/snip]
[snip jblanchard:]
I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook
[/snip]
My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published
by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case
PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are
great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the
language. HTH!
   

I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming
from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are
completely insecure and display really bad programming habits.
Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if
you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular
expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was
complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book). 

I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend --
I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for
the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using
php.net as a reference).
 

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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-21 Thread M. Sokolewicz
O`Reilly's programming PHP is quite good too :)
Judson Vaughn wrote:
I second O'Reilly's PHP Cookbook.  Another recommendation is Larry 
Ullman's books, especially HP Advanced for the World Wide Web. I try to 
triangulate, using several books that come at the code differently.

Jud.
Judson Vaughn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seiter Vaughn  Communications
12455 Plowman Court
Herndon, VA 20170
703.450.9740
svc

Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
* Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

[snip]
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.
I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
in the most efficient manner.
What's a few of the better books out there?
[/snip]
[snip jblanchard:]
I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook
[/snip]
My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published
by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case
PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are
great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the
language. HTH!
  

I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming
from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are
completely insecure and display really bad programming habits.
Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if
you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular
expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was
complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book).
I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend --
I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for
the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using
php.net as a reference).
 

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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-15 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a
 solid foundation in PHP.

If you need a strong foundation:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/

If you already have a strong foundation:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616

Hope that helps.

Chris

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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-15 Thread Joe Harman
personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast
and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i
bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially
if you are not into reading technical manuals

http://www.thickbook.com



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 sorry... wrong address
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast
  and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i
  bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially
  if you are not into reading technical manuals
 
 
  On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:54:14 -0800 (PST), Chris Shiflett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a
solid foundation in PHP.
  
   If you need a strong foundation:
  
   http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/
  
   If you already have a strong foundation:
  
   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616
  
   Hope that helps.
  
   Chris
  
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   Coming Soon http://httphandbook.org/
  
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RE: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-15 Thread yangshiqi
I enjoy the Core PHP Programming, Third Edition by Leon Atkinson very
much.

 
Best regards,
Yang Shiqi
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Joe Harman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:20 AM
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast
and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i
bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially
if you are not into reading technical manuals

http://www.thickbook.com



On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:20:05 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 sorry... wrong address
 
 
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:19:46 -0500, Joe Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  personally, I like Julie Meloni's books... PHP essentials.. and fast
  and easy web development... these were some of the first books that i
  bought and got started with... they are pretty easy to use, especially
  if you are not into reading technical manuals
 
 
  On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:54:14 -0800 (PST), Chris Shiflett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- Bosky, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a
solid foundation in PHP.
  
   If you need a strong foundation:
  
   http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnphp5/
  
   If you already have a strong foundation:
  
   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672325616
  
   Hope that helps.
  
   Chris
  
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   Coming Soon http://httphandbook.org/
  
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RE: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-14 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.

I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
in
the most efficient manner.

What's a few of the better books out there?
[/snip]

I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook

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RE: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-14 Thread Daniel Purdy

[snip]
I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
foundation in PHP.

I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
in the most efficient manner.

What's a few of the better books out there?
[/snip]
[snip jblanchard:]
I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook
[/snip]


My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published
by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case
PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are
great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the
language. HTH!
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Re: [PHP] PHP book recommendations

2005-02-14 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
* Daniel Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [snip]
 I'm looking for an easy to read PHP book that will help me learn a solid
 foundation in PHP.

 I'm already familiar with the language but want to make sure I'm coding
 in the most efficient manner.

 What's a few of the better books out there?
 [/snip]
 [snip jblanchard:]
 I personally like the O'Reilly books on PHP, especially the PHP Cookbook
 [/snip]


 My personal favorites are the ones with the bright red covers published
 by wrox (they are usually just titled the language, so in this case
 PHP). I have found they provide excellent quick reference and also are
 great for sitting down and reading through to get a better grasp of the
 language. HTH!

I cannot disagree more. I have a copy of Professional PHP Programming
from circa 2000. It has a ton of real-world examples... that are
completely insecure and display really bad programming habits.
Additionally, the function listings at the back are not indexed, so if
you don't know, for instance, that the function 'split' is a regular
expression function, you'll never find it. The HTML reference was
complete fluff (shouldn't have even been in the book). 

I honestly haven't found an introductory PHP book I could recommend --
I'd look for a good book on programming and/or programming practices for
the web, and then figure out how to translate that into PHP (using
php.net as a reference).

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RE: [PHP] PHP Book?

2001-04-27 Thread Angerer, Chad

Professional PHP by WROX.  Great book.  It provides you with some real world
examples.

Chad Angerer
HTML Programmer
Internet Broadcasting Systems
651.365.4006


-Original Message-
From: Hamed Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] PHP Book?


Hey everyone...

I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php
and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting
some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty
similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i
need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work
with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of
programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers
everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :))

I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can
you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy?

Regards
Hamed Nik




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Re: [PHP] PHP Book?

2001-04-27 Thread Ivan Porro

Hi,

i suggest three:

o) Beginning PHP4 by Chris Lea et. al. Editors ISBN and so on at:

www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/107-8101819-4534115

o) PHP poket reference by Rasmus Leedorf, O'Reilly. OK 4 a brief fuction
reference and fundamentals (it's the best choice when you learn
something about php but u dn.t want to go out with a 5 inch manual.


o) www.phpbuilder.com  they have tutorials from beginners (i.e. php
programming with MySQL) to advanced (page caching  compression). I've
learned a lot of php on Web.


Hamed Nik wrote:
 
 Hey everyone...
 
 I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php
 and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting
 some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty
 similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i
 need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work
 with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of
 programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers
 everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :))
 
 I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can
 you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy?
 
 Regards
 Hamed Nik
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP Book?

2001-04-27 Thread Randal Pitt

I used 'Professional PHP Programming' by WROX Press first, but to learn more
about what PHP can do and the best way to do it, I recommend 'Web
Application Development with PHP4', you can get both from Amazon.

Randal.


Hamed Nik wrote in message 9cbr3a$mkc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Hey everyone...

I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php
and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting
some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty
similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i
need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work
with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of
programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers
everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :))

I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can
you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to
buy?

Regards
Hamed Nik




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RE: [PHP] PHP Book?

2001-04-27 Thread Boaz Yahav

You can check for PHP / MySQL books at :

PHP:

http://www.weberdev.com/index.php3?GoTo=ShowShoppingItems.php3%3FMasterCateg
ory%3D156%26SubCategory%3D106%26SubCategoryName%3DPHP%26MainCategoryName%3DB
ooks

MySQL:
==
http://www.weberdev.com/index.php3?GoTo=ShowShoppingItems.php3%3FMasterCateg
ory%3D156%26SubCategory%3D1%26SubCategoryName%3DMySQL%26MainCategoryName%3DB
ooks


And you can also check the Articles / tutorials and examples on weberdev as
a very good reference.

Sincerely

  berber

Visit http://www.weberdev.com Today!!! 
To see where PHP might take you tomorrow.

-Original Message-
From: Hamed Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] PHP Book?


Hey everyone...

I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php
and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting
some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty
similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i
need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work
with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of
programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers
everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :))

I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book... can
you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to buy?

Regards
Hamed Nik




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RE: [PHP] PHP Book?

2001-04-27 Thread Simon Ould

PHP Developers Cookbook, by Sterling Hughes
I like it: as the name might suggest, it is packed with real-World examples.

I also bought Beginning PHP Programming (Wrox press). Mistake. Big
mistake. It is aimed at people who are *completely* new to programming. The
review that I read of it didn't convey this aspect :(

For example, in chapter 5 or 6 there is a paragraph along the lines of:
You know that we told you to make your code reusable? Here's why: you can
use something called a function... 
I actually found it vaguely funny, whilst I was banging my head against the
wall.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hamed Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 14:10
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP] PHP Book?
 
 
 Hey everyone...
 
 I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have 
 installed php
 and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started 
 by converting
 some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems 
 its pretty
 similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl 
 programmer... but i
 need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work
 with... and probably something that gives me ideas on 
 different types of
 programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers
 everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :))
 
 I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a 
 PHP book... can
 you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good 
 for me to buy?
 
 Regards
 Hamed Nik
 
 
 
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP Book?

2001-04-27 Thread Kath

I agree 100% with Professional PHP Programming.  It was my first book.

Also php fast and easy web development by Julie Meloni.

- Kath

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Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Book?


 Professional PHP by WROX.  Great book.  It provides you with some real
world
 examples.

 Chad Angerer
 HTML Programmer
 Internet Broadcasting Systems
 651.365.4006


 -Original Message-
 From: Hamed Nik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:10 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP] PHP Book?


 Hey everyone...

 I've been programming in perl for about 3 years now, i have installed php
 and have been working on it for about three weeks. I started by converting
 some of the programs I've written in Perl to PHP it seems its pretty
 similar to Perl and not very hard to learn for a perl programmer... but i
 need some reference book with some practical examples so i could work
 with... and probably something that gives me ideas on different types of
 programs and things that i could do in PHP... something that covers
 everything in PHP... and is NOT copied from the manual! :))

 I am sure most of you in this group have got some sort of a PHP book...
can
 you please tell me out of your experience which ones are good for me to
buy?

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 Hamed Nik




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Re: [PHP] PHP Book

2001-03-12 Thread Tristan . Pretty



My god, you ever have one of those days???
I missed out an R...
the correct address is...
http://www.beertastic.co.uk/phpman.pdf

I am sorry, lets try again eh?

Tris...







Could not resolve nameserver.

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 Hi there,
 I got this book from php.net is it the one you're after? who knows.
 I just tried mailing it to you, but it was a huge 9Mb and my Firewall
stops
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 What I have done for you is put it up on line at my site.
 Click here to get it, but remember it is 9Mb in size, have you got a fast
 connection.
 I'll take it down in a few days, if you still need it, let me know
 http://www.beetastic.co.uk/phpman.pdf

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RE: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-17 Thread Boaz Yahav

And I remind you all to buy them at WeberDev.com and help
us pay the hosting :)

Sincerely

  berber

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To see where PHP might take you tomorrow.
 

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Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP
books. Something broad but with good novice
concepts

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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-16 Thread Egon Schmid (@vacation)

Brian V Bonini wrote:
 
 Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP
 books. Something broad but with good novice
 concepts

There are many at http://php.net/books.php. Maybe Leon Atkinsons Core
PHP (second edition) or Sterling Hughes Developer's Cookbook.

-Egon

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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-16 Thread ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]

I agree...

The red book "Professional PHP Programming"
(WROX "Programmer to Programmer" series)
is an exellent PHP book

but, if you're looking for novice level stuff, WROX
also published a companion called "Beginning PHP4".

i was fluent in perl when i picked up the professional
one, and had no problems with it... but i wouldnt 
reccomend it to people with little or no programming
experience... the professional book seems to take for 
granted a grasp of fundamental programming concepts,
if you're a true novice, get the "beginning php4" one
first (and then professional :)



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  Can I get some recommendations on some good PHP
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Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendations

2001-02-16 Thread Philip Olson


The most useful "second" book is :

PHP Developers Cookbook

It really is nice.  I say "second" because it's geared towards those that
understand a bit already but still, it'll even help the complete newbie
(easy to read).  Excellent tips, short-cuts, examples, etc.  Includes uses
of various PEAR classes too.

Regards,

Philip


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