Re: [PHP] Incoming Development

2002-06-18 Thread Justin French

on 19/06/02 9:35 AM, César Aracena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 b)   An area where the students can read or download books, in order
 to avoid having to spend so much money in photocopies.

That will be illegal :)

Everything else sounds good.

Start with a decent user/member/login/session system, then work your way up
from there.


Justin French


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RE: [PHP] Incoming Development

2002-06-18 Thread César Aracena

Thanks on the quote. Actually, I am wondering about the legal concern
about publishing books in a site like this. It comes to my mind, that if
only registered students are able to search trough this site, it will be
just like an open University library. Of course the University would
hold at least one hard copy of each book published and written
permission of each author/editor. I think of this part as a on-line
library of the University... does this make any sense?

About the other point, when you say decent what are you suggesting?
What would it be stronger and more reliable... a SESSION handler or http
authentication???

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:23 PM
 To: php
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Incoming Development
 
 on 19/06/02 9:35 AM, César Aracena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  b)   An area where the students can read or download books, in
order
  to avoid having to spend so much money in photocopies.
 
 That will be illegal :)
 
 Everything else sounds good.
 
 Start with a decent user/member/login/session system, then work your
way
 up
 from there.
 
 
 Justin French
 
 
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Re: [PHP] Incoming Development

2002-06-18 Thread Justin French

Each to their own, but I believe sessions will make it easier for you to
know who they are from page to page, for example when they post into a
forum or ask a question, it's all based on their user id.

FWIW, photocopying more than 10% of a book is breech of copyright as well...
even if it was in a library, so I don't like your chances.

To get started with sessions, I'd look at Kevin Yank's article on
sitepoint.com, but it uses cookies, and isn't exactly what you're after, but
it's been the basis of my entire session library.


Justin French



on 19/06/02 12:45 PM, César Aracena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Thanks on the quote. Actually, I am wondering about the legal concern
 about publishing books in a site like this. It comes to my mind, that if
 only registered students are able to search trough this site, it will be
 just like an open University library. Of course the University would
 hold at least one hard copy of each book published and written
 permission of each author/editor. I think of this part as a on-line
 library of the University... does this make any sense?
 
 About the other point, when you say decent what are you suggesting?
 What would it be stronger and more reliable... a SESSION handler or http
 authentication???
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:23 PM
 To: php
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Incoming Development
 
 on 19/06/02 9:35 AM, César Aracena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 b)   An area where the students can read or download books, in
 order
 to avoid having to spend so much money in photocopies.
 
 That will be illegal :)
 
 Everything else sounds good.
 
 Start with a decent user/member/login/session system, then work your
 way
 up
 from there.
 
 
 Justin French
 
 
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RE: [PHP] Incoming Development

2002-06-18 Thread César Aracena

Thanks again for the input. I also like using sessions instead of http
auth. I been working with it quite a lot lately, but I still don't know
how to do one thing and will need it with something like this. It would
help to keep track of each user (what he/she does), in order to make PHP
throw statistics for each student I ask it to. I know the basics of
relating this with a DB, but the thing is that after the user logs in,
the userid used to open that session disappear.

For example, if I show the student: echo Welcome userid at the login
script, when that student goes to some other page that is does not holds
the login script, it would print Hi  instead of Hi Whatevername. How
can I keep track of this things??? Cookies which I want to avoid???

Again with the copyright matter (and sorry for I want to kill every
possibility)... a common mid-career medicine book in Argentina may cost
U$S 1.500,00 and a common income here (for a hole family) is around U$S
150,00 top. And it is a Public University... shouldn't be a way for
editors to make an exception? Anyway... just 2% aprox of all the
students buy books here.

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:57 PM
 To: César Aracena; 'php'
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Incoming Development
 
 Each to their own, but I believe sessions will make it easier for you
to
 know who they are from page to page, for example when they post into
a
 forum or ask a question, it's all based on their user id.
 
 FWIW, photocopying more than 10% of a book is breech of copyright as
 well...
 even if it was in a library, so I don't like your chances.
 
 To get started with sessions, I'd look at Kevin Yank's article on
 sitepoint.com, but it uses cookies, and isn't exactly what you're
after,
 but
 it's been the basis of my entire session library.
 
 
 Justin French
 
 
 
 on 19/06/02 12:45 PM, César Aracena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Thanks on the quote. Actually, I am wondering about the legal
concern
  about publishing books in a site like this. It comes to my mind,
that if
  only registered students are able to search trough this site, it
will be
  just like an open University library. Of course the University would
  hold at least one hard copy of each book published and written
  permission of each author/editor. I think of this part as a on-line
  library of the University... does this make any sense?
 
  About the other point, when you say decent what are you
suggesting?
  What would it be stronger and more reliable... a SESSION handler or
http
  authentication???
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:23 PM
  To: php
  Subject: Re: [PHP] Incoming Development
 
  on 19/06/02 9:35 AM, César Aracena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  b)   An area where the students can read or download books, in
  order
  to avoid having to spend so much money in photocopies.
 
  That will be illegal :)
 
  Everything else sounds good.
 
  Start with a decent user/member/login/session system, then work
your
  way
  up
  from there.
 
 
  Justin French
 
 
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RE: [PHP] Incoming Development

2002-06-18 Thread John Holmes

 For example, if I show the student: echo Welcome userid at the
login
 script, when that student goes to some other page that is does not
holds
 the login script, it would print Hi  instead of Hi Whatevername.
How
 can I keep track of this things??? Cookies which I want to avoid???

?
Session_start();
$_SESSION['userid'] = $userid;
?

Now you have $_SESSION['userid'] on any page you use session_start() on.
That's the idea of sessions...passing variables among pages...

You use the same technique to make sure a person logged in. When the
username and password match, set a session variable like 'logged-in'. On
every other page, check for this variable. If it exists, they are logged
in, if not, then redirect to the log in page.

---John Holmes...


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