Re: [PHPTAL] Any updates to translation tools?
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:15:57 +0100, Darrell Hamilton darre...@4over.com wrote: Does anyone have any additional input on this point? From what I've gathered, pandoc is what you want if your converting between any number of markup languages. It can convert to DocBook, RST, Markdown, and many others. Unfortunately, it does not take DocBook as an input format. pandoc is difficult to install for me. Did you get it working? DocBook - HTML - Markdown might work? Based on the links provided by Christoph, there are some tools for converting DocBook to RST, but they appear to be in their infancy. I have not experimented with them yet. As a broader question, is Markdown the preferred format? Or is the format open to general discussion? I do not have a preference at this time nor do I know enough of the pros/cons of each to say anything about which is the better tool for the job, but it might be worth hearing from people who have more experience with them. I have slight preference for Markdown, since it uses single backtick for inline code. reStructuredText is fine though. The next step would be to look into tool that produces multipage documentation from the single source file. I don't know of any for Markdown, so if reStructuredText has good (post)processors, it might be better. Otherwise, I'll probably write something myself. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ___ PHPTAL mailing list PHPTAL@lists.motion-twin.com http://lists.motion-twin.com/mailman/listinfo/phptal
Re: [PHPTAL] Any updates to translation tools?
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:37:16PM -0700, Darrell Hamilton wrote: As for HTML to Markdown, Pandoc, http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ , seems to be the de facto standard so I'm going to start off with that one. i have recently switched a restructured text doku wiki over to Sphinx [1]. there is also a converter from DB to RST suggested by them [2] -- but i don't know nothing about the quality. [1] http://sphinx.pocoo.org/index.html [2] http://code.google.com/p/db2rst/ -- cu pgpQtMZcfK7O9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ PHPTAL mailing list PHPTAL@lists.motion-twin.com http://lists.motion-twin.com/mailman/listinfo/phptal
Re: [PHPTAL] Any updates to translation tools?
Does anyone have any additional input on this point? From what I've gathered, pandoc is what you want if your converting between any number of markup languages. It can convert to DocBook, RST, Markdown, and many others. Unfortunately, it does not take DocBook as an input format. Based on the links provided by Christoph, there are some tools for converting DocBook to RST, but they appear to be in their infancy. I have not experimented with them yet. As a broader question, is Markdown the preferred format? Or is the format open to general discussion? I do not have a preference at this time nor do I know enough of the pros/cons of each to say anything about which is the better tool for the job, but it might be worth hearing from people who have more experience with them. Darrell Hamilton, Software Developer, 4over, Inc darre...@4over.com 818-246-1170 ext. 285 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Christoph Frick fr...@sc-networks.comwrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:37:16PM -0700, Darrell Hamilton wrote: As for HTML to Markdown, Pandoc, http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ , seems to be the de facto standard so I'm going to start off with that one. i have recently switched a restructured text doku wiki over to Sphinx [1]. there is also a converter from DB to RST suggested by them [2] -- but i don't know nothing about the quality. [1] http://sphinx.pocoo.org/index.html [2] http://code.google.com/p/db2rst/ -- cu ___ PHPTAL mailing list PHPTAL@lists.motion-twin.com http://lists.motion-twin.com/mailman/listinfo/phptal ___ PHPTAL mailing list PHPTAL@lists.motion-twin.com http://lists.motion-twin.com/mailman/listinfo/phptal
Re: [PHPTAL] Any updates to translation tools?
On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:07:05 +0100, Anton Andriyevskyy x.meg...@gmail.com wrote: (sorry for late reply, I've originally sent that e-mail from wrong account!) I still want to help and finish translation of phptal documentation to russian language (previously started and done 40% of chapters or so). I see php introduced very good online tool to do such things: https://edit.php.net/ If it is opensourced, maybe you can setup it so we all can help to translate phptal documentation? PHP's tool looks like a quite complex beast. I think DocBook is too complex to maintain already, and instead of piling more tools to deal with it, I'd rather get rid of DocBook and switch to something simpler, e.g. Markdown. To do this, I need: * tool to convert DocBook to Markdown (or HTML to Markdown): https://svn.motion-twin.com/phptal/trunk/doc/en/book.xml * tool to generate multi-page HTML with code syntax highlights from Markdown (existing scripts might be reusable: https://svn.motion-twin.com/phptal/website/highlight.php) Any volunteers? -- regards, Kornel ___ PHPTAL mailing list PHPTAL@lists.motion-twin.com http://lists.motion-twin.com/mailman/listinfo/phptal
Re: [PHPTAL] Any updates to translation tools?
On the Convert DocBook to Markdown item, there seems to be at least a handful of tools that can convert from HTML to Markdown. I'll see about putting aside some time to play with a few to figure out if there is a better or best option among them and, seeing if there is something that can go directly from DocBook to Markdown without the extra step. Are there any additional requirements, beyond just being able to convert? Is this going to be a one time thing? (I assume 'yes') Does it need to be scriptable? (again, I assume 'yes') Darrell Hamilton, Software Developer, 4over, Inc darre...@4over.com 818-246-1170 ext. 285 2011/8/19 Kornel Lesiński kor...@geekhood.net On Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:07:05 +0100, Anton Andriyevskyy x.meg...@gmail.com wrote: (sorry for late reply, I've originally sent that e-mail from wrong account!) I still want to help and finish translation of phptal documentation to russian language (previously started and done 40% of chapters or so). I see php introduced very good online tool to do such things: https://edit.php.net/ If it is opensourced, maybe you can setup it so we all can help to translate phptal documentation? PHP's tool looks like a quite complex beast. I think DocBook is too complex to maintain already, and instead of piling more tools to deal with it, I'd rather get rid of DocBook and switch to something simpler, e.g. Markdown. To do this, I need: * tool to convert DocBook to Markdown (or HTML to Markdown): https://svn.motion-twin.com/**phptal/trunk/doc/en/book.xmlhttps://svn.motion-twin.com/phptal/trunk/doc/en/book.xml * tool to generate multi-page HTML with code syntax highlights from Markdown (existing scripts might be reusable: https://svn.motion-twin.com/**phptal/website/highlight.phphttps://svn.motion-twin.com/phptal/website/highlight.php ) Any volunteers? -- regards, Kornel __**_ PHPTAL mailing list PHPTAL@lists.motion-twin.com http://lists.motion-twin.com/**mailman/listinfo/phptalhttp://lists.motion-twin.com/mailman/listinfo/phptal ___ PHPTAL mailing list PHPTAL@lists.motion-twin.com http://lists.motion-twin.com/mailman/listinfo/phptal
