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Re: new crypto things

[cat stevens]

PicoLisp has a git? Can I have a link?
On Apr 22, 2016 9:52 AM, "Mike Pechkin"  wrote:

> hi all,
>
> my new code in repo:
>
> hash: adler32, crc64, fnv, siphash
> crypto: grostl, rc2, rc5, rc6, camellia, idea
>
>
> Mike
>
>

Re: Is this the right place for bugs / questions about PilOS?

[cat stevens]

Robert,

The link <http://qemu.weilnetz.de/w64/2014/qemu-w64-setup-20140715.exe> you
gave is, interestingly, quite helpful. (That's the non-404 version, because
things got moved around, it seems.)
I was ambivalent about using an emulator inside Wine (since I use Linux,
and don't have much access to Windows), but trying to compile the sources
for that version, and all surrounding versions, was met with linker errors
only *after* 99% of the object files were generated.

Compilation issues aside, the Windows exe does in fact run inside Wine and
PilOS does in fact run inside that, so thank you for that. :D

I'll still have to see if I can pick up an old-ish cheap-ish Acer
somewhere, if that's what I gotta do to run a modern Lisp on bare-metal.

~cat

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Robert Herman <rpjher...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cat,
>
> Try an older version of qemu. If it works, you can try newer ones if they
> have features or bugs corrected that may affect you.
>
> I had the same problem, but thanks to Joe Bogner and Alex, I have it
> running. Here's the link to the older qemu that worked:
>
> http://qemu.weilnetz.de/w64/qemu-w64-setup-20140715.exe
>
> I was running it on Win 8 64-bit at the time.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On 16 April 2016 at 02:46, cat stevens <thebinarymi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > This is an error from the BIOS (Was this also Qemu?).
>>
>> Yes, that was Qemu. Here's a screenshot <http://imgur.com/5bCRrVF.png>.
>>
>> It comes after the "Loading PilOS" text, and I found the string constant
>> "READ ERROR 00" in the image binary (at 0xBF), so I thought that was
>> PilOS.
>>
>> I also recompiled using the provided source / instructions on the Wiki,
>> and
>> tried booting the resulting "x86_64.bin" in Qemu and bare metal with the
>> same results.
>>
>> > Most of today's BIOSes seem to implement only the absolute minimum,
>> > which is understandable as modern OSes don't call the BIOS so much any
>> > more.
>>
>> My PC's BIOS is the same (un-updated) one it shipped with, but the trouble
>> with BIOSes is that it's unlikely to find two identical confiugurations on
>> any two systems. :)
>>
>> > This is a pity, and I don't know what to recommend. But at least
>> > Qemu I would have expected to work ...
>>
>> I was kinda looking forward to having a Lisp OS on bare metal, but maybe
>> this is why there aren't that many. :P
>> I'm all ears if you've any suggestions, and I'll definitely keep an eye on
>> development.
>>
>> ~ cat
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:08:56PM -0400, cat stevens wrote:
>> > > Hi! I am very interested in the idea and look of PilOS; however, I'm
>> > having
>> > > some issues trying to get started with it. Can I ask about those here?
>> >
>> > Sure! :)
>> >
>> >
>> > > First, the command on the Wiki seems to have an issue, which I asked
>> > about
>> > > here
>> > > <
>> >
>> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/276480/booting-a-raw-disk-image-in-qemu
>> > >
>> > > -- it seems like it should be:
>> > >
>> > > qemu-system-x86_64 -drive format=raw,file=x86-64.img
>> >
>> > What I used for Qemu was
>> >
>> >$ qemu-system-x86_64  -m 4096  -smp 4  -ctrl-grab  -no-reboot
>> > pilos/x86-64.img
>> >
>> > so it is similar to what you wrote in the above link, and it worked fine
>> > for me.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Even when I run that (apparently more correct) command, PilOS gives
>> "READ
>> > > ERROR 09" and hangs.
>> >
>> > This is an error from the BIOS (Was this also Qemu?).
>> >
>> >
>> > > I also tried booting my laptop from the raw disk image written to a
>> USB
>>
>
>

Re: Is this the right place for bugs / questions about PilOS?

[cat stevens]

> This is an error from the BIOS (Was this also Qemu?).

Yes, that was Qemu. Here's a screenshot <http://imgur.com/5bCRrVF.png>.

It comes after the "Loading PilOS" text, and I found the string constant
"READ ERROR 00" in the image binary (at 0xBF), so I thought that was PilOS.

I also recompiled using the provided source / instructions on the Wiki, and
tried booting the resulting "x86_64.bin" in Qemu and bare metal with the
same results.

> Most of today's BIOSes seem to implement only the absolute minimum,
> which is understandable as modern OSes don't call the BIOS so much any
> more.

My PC's BIOS is the same (un-updated) one it shipped with, but the trouble
with BIOSes is that it's unlikely to find two identical confiugurations on
any two systems. :)

> This is a pity, and I don't know what to recommend. But at least
> Qemu I would have expected to work ...

I was kinda looking forward to having a Lisp OS on bare metal, but maybe
this is why there aren't that many. :P
I'm all ears if you've any suggestions, and I'll definitely keep an eye on
development.

~ cat

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de>
wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:08:56PM -0400, cat stevens wrote:
> > Hi! I am very interested in the idea and look of PilOS; however, I'm
> having
> > some issues trying to get started with it. Can I ask about those here?
>
> Sure! :)
>
>
> > First, the command on the Wiki seems to have an issue, which I asked
> about
> > here
> > <
> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/276480/booting-a-raw-disk-image-in-qemu
> >
> > -- it seems like it should be:
> >
> > qemu-system-x86_64 -drive format=raw,file=x86-64.img
>
> What I used for Qemu was
>
>$ qemu-system-x86_64  -m 4096  -smp 4  -ctrl-grab  -no-reboot
> pilos/x86-64.img
>
> so it is similar to what you wrote in the above link, and it worked fine
> for me.
>
>
>
> > Even when I run that (apparently more correct) command, PilOS gives "READ
> > ERROR 09" and hangs.
>
> This is an error from the BIOS (Was this also Qemu?).
>
>
> > I also tried booting my laptop from the raw disk image written to a USB

Is this the right place for bugs / questions about PilOS?

[cat stevens]

Hi! I am very interested in the idea and look of PilOS; however, I'm having
some issues trying to get started with it. Can I ask about those here?

First, the command on the Wiki seems to have an issue, which I asked about
here

-- it seems like it should be:

qemu-system-x86_64 -drive format=raw,file=x86-64.img

Even when I run that (apparently more correct) command, PilOS gives "READ
ERROR 09" and hangs.

I also tried booting my laptop from the raw disk image written to a USB. It
said "Loading PilOS", then printed "Checking for long support..." and hung,
not continuing for the time I let it sit at that screen (about 20 minutes).

My laptop is a Toshiba Satellite from 2012, it's 64-bit, has lots of ram
and has inbuilt SSE 4.2 support, so I don't think it's my hardware.

Could anyone offer some pointers here? Thanks!

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