Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-19 Thread William Erickson
When I was doing this I bought the RA4 kit and divided the developer among
several liter bottles and kept them full and refrigerated. Good for at least
three months.
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 What 'Kit' do you buy for small runs of color negative prints?

 S. Shapiro
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   I had been asking around a month or so ago to people I know about
   doing color processing at home.  And all of them warned me of the very
   dangerous chemicals involved.  Any tips from those of you who have
   been doing it.  I would love to do my color at home like I do my own
   black and white, so I can have the contol.  But the chemicals have
   been scaring me away.
 
 
  I haven't had any problems. Knock on wood.
 
  Greetings
 
  Brahma
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-19 Thread Steve Shapiro
What 'Kit' do you buy for small runs of color negative prints?

S. Shapiro
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From: lva l...@pamho.net
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing


  I had been asking around a month or so ago to people I know about
  doing color processing at home.  And all of them warned me of the very
  dangerous chemicals involved.  Any tips from those of you who have
  been doing it.  I would love to do my color at home like I do my own
  black and white, so I can have the contol.  But the chemicals have
  been scaring me away.
 
 
 I haven't had any problems. Knock on wood.
 
 Greetings
 
 Brahma
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-18 Thread Guillermo
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From: Mike Vande Bunt mike.vandeb...@mixcom.com

 By the way, for the non North American audience, the 100 degrees
 mentioned is in Farenheit degrees.  100 degrees Celsius is easy to
 maintain, just bring the water to a boil!

And watch your fish swimming backstroke style!!

BTW, if 1 heater can't copy with the volume of water, nothing prevents you from 
having 2 heaters.

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-18 Thread Mike Vande Bunt
William Erickson wrote:

 I'd be a little surprised if an aquarium heater can maintain 100 degrees
 very reliably.

Aquarium heaters are quite good a within a plus or minus one degree range.
100 degrees is on the high end for most heaters, but not outside their
capability.  The water must be circulating for temperature regulation to
work reloably, so some sort of a pump to keep that water moving is
also needed.

By the way, for the non North American audience, the 100 degrees
mentioned is in Farenheit degrees.  100 degrees Celsius is easy to
maintain, just bring the water to a boil!

Mike Vande Bunt






Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-18 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
Hi:

An aquarium heater may work provided the volume of water you are using is
fairly large and has been stabilized over a ong period of time, adequately
mixed and covered.  Ie like an aquarium.

Aquarium heaters don't heat water very quickly.  They are designed to hold
a fairly large volume of water at a stable tempurature.  Auariums also
have a circlulating/filtration system that keeps the water moving,
without this the water would be unevenly heated.

See if you could use a presure balanced faucet.  These are becoming
more common - used mostly for bathtubs.  The tubs deliver a fixed rate of
water, the valve controls the mix  of hot and cold water to maintain the
set temperature.  Designed to prevent one from being scalded when somebody
flushes the toilet while you are taking a shower.

Depending on your plumbing situation you may be able to set your water at
100 dg and it may stay there.  Though if someone takes a shower, flushed
the toilet etc, your film could be ruined.

You could try a temperature controlled water bath like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1616174719

Gord

On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, William Erickson wrote:

 I'd be a little surprised if an aquarium heater can maintain 100 degrees
 very reliably. In my experience, c-41 developing, especially 35mm, is
 tedious, prone to variation in contrast, probably due to variability in
 agitation rates, and no fun at all.
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-17 Thread William Erickson
I'd be a little surprised if an aquarium heater can maintain 100 degrees
very reliably. In my experience, c-41 developing, especially 35mm, is
tedious, prone to variation in contrast, probably due to variability in
agitation rates, and no fun at all.
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From: Jeff Dilcher r...@hiddenworld.net
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing




 Thanks for the responses to my original question.
 From what I have gathered, it appears that c41 is
 not too difficult to do.  Apparantly, however, you
 need to maintain chemicals at 100deg F, throughout
 development.

 I have a plastic drum (Jobo 3010, I believe) that I
 rotate my 4x5 negatives in for bw processing.  I am
 hoping I can spin this in a warm water bath.  I bought
 an inexpensive 200watt aquariam heater, that, I am
 hoping, will keep my waterbath the correct temp.


 From some info I have read, tetenal 1 liter kits
 are good for color negative development.  Anyone have
 any thoughts on this?

 Also, I am getting ready to purchase a box of 50 or 100 sheets
 of color negative film.  I have read that Kodak Portra stands
 up to reciprocity fairly well.  I will be doing mostly
 a variety of outdoor shots.  Anyone else have thoughts as
 to a better choice for color sheet film, before I
 spend any money?

 Thanks!!

 Jeff Dilcher


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-17 Thread lva
 I had been asking around a month or so ago to people I know about
 doing color processing at home.  And all of them warned me of the very
 dangerous chemicals involved.  Any tips from those of you who have
 been doing it.  I would love to do my color at home like I do my own
 black and white, so I can have the contol.  But the chemicals have
 been scaring me away.


I haven't had any problems. Knock on wood.

Greetings

Brahma



Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-16 Thread auntskip
years ago the color chem were worse than they are now   there have been some
changes and they are probably no worse, or even a lot less bad than some b/w
stuff. Trebla is probably the best and most forgiving brand, and a lot
less costly than Kodak stuff.go for it.
skip






From: Lisa Reddig l...@julianrichards.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing


 I had been asking around a month or so ago to people I know about doing
 color processing at home.  And all of them warned me of the very dangerous
 chemicals involved.  Any tips from those of you who have been doing it.  I
 would love to do my color at home like I do my own black and white, so I
can
 have the contol.  But the chemicals have been scaring me away.

 lisa


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-16 Thread William Erickson
I did color printing at home for about ten years without harm to myself or
anyone else. There's a fair expense for equipment and it isn't fun like BW.
If you can find a school or something with the dry to dry processor you can
save yourself a lotof time, expense and hassle.
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From: Lisa Reddig l...@julianrichards.com
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing


 I had been asking around a month or so ago to people I know about doing
 color processing at home.  And all of them warned me of the very dangerous
 chemicals involved.  Any tips from those of you who have been doing it.  I
 would love to do my color at home like I do my own black and white, so I
can
 have the contol.  But the chemicals have been scaring me away.

 lisa


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-16 Thread Lisa Reddig
I had been asking around a month or so ago to people I know about doing
color processing at home.  And all of them warned me of the very dangerous
chemicals involved.  Any tips from those of you who have been doing it.  I
would love to do my color at home like I do my own black and white, so I can
have the contol.  But the chemicals have been scaring me away.

lisa




[pinhole-discussion] color processing

2001-07-16 Thread megg
i have essentially done all of my 4x5s as well as 35 mm color myself--both 
positives and negatives, with good results. hand agitation in self-controlled 
water temperature
   bath works fine, you just need to be vigilant. c-41 is easier than e-6 
chemistry, as it has fewer steps, but the whole process is highly gratifying, 
somehow...i had a
   moderate magenta dominant at first, but through better temp. control 
eliminated that and am happy with the results. meg