Re: [pkg-discuss] Regarding IPS custom actions
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:22:37PM +0530, Gerard Jesudoss wrote: Once thing we noticed is that the new custom action should also be known to the server at the time of publishing the packages(ie, pkgsend). Since this custom action is required to be run during install time, we are trying to see if this server dependency can be avoided during package publishing time? Can anyone let us know if this is the expected behavior or its a bug(server requiring to know about custom action at package publishing time) It's not a bug at the moment, but it'd be rerally nice to get rid fo the dependency. Could you file an RFE to track this? Thanks, Danek ___ pkg-discuss mailing list pkg-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-discuss
Re: [pkg-discuss] Regarding IPS custom actions
Joe Di Pol wrote: OK, I'll jump in here with an example. When my product's package is installed I want to put an entry in the user's Start/Launch menu. Constraints: o My product is an unbundled application o The package is being installed into a user image by a non-root user. So I can't just plop files in a well known location. o I need to support multiple platforms, and some desktops may require different mechanisms for populating the Start menu other than just dropping files into well known locations. o I need to support multiple platforms so I can't rely on SMF. o I can't defer this to application start-up since the start menu items should be there to start the application in the first place. Is it reasonable to create an action for this? No. Actions should be confined to those things needed to either install files (such as adding a usr to the local db) or boot successfully. The packaging system should not embed knowledge about populating start menus. What we still need to write is the generic do this on live image after successful install when prerequisites are met action, which is what you need. It maps pretty well to SMF on Solaris. - Bart -- Bart Smaalders Solaris Kernel Performance [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blogs.sun.com/barts ___ pkg-discuss mailing list pkg-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-discuss
Re: [pkg-discuss] Regarding IPS custom actions
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:08:05PM -0800, Joe Di Pol wrote: Danek Duvall wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:22:37PM +0530, Gerard Jesudoss wrote: Once thing we noticed is that the new custom action should also be known to the server at the time of publishing the packages(ie, pkgsend). Since this custom action is required to be run during install time, we are trying to see if this server dependency can be avoided during package publishing time? Can anyone let us know if this is the expected behavior or its a bug(server requiring to know about custom action at package publishing time) It's not a bug at the moment, but it'd be rerally nice to get rid fo the dependency. Could you file an RFE to track this? Isn't this really more than a nice to? Isn't it really a pretty bad bug? It's annoying if you're adding new actions, yes. That's not a particularly common operation at the moment, though. Though honestly, I don't care too much whether it comes in as an rfe or a bug. One common response to no scripting is we can added new actions when we need to. In the future when the world is running thousands of IPS repositories then this bug makes it pretty impractical to add a new action. It's a common response, but we tend to preferentially present other possibilities -- we'd like to limit the number of actions if we can. Operations which can be deferred until after installation probably should be. The points you raise in your other message are valid, but I don't think they require the creation of a new action. Danek ___ pkg-discuss mailing list pkg-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-discuss
Re: [pkg-discuss] Regarding IPS custom actions
Danek Duvall wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:22:37PM +0530, Gerard Jesudoss wrote: Once thing we noticed is that the new custom action should also be known to the server at the time of publishing the packages(ie, pkgsend). Since this custom action is required to be run during install time, we are trying to see if this server dependency can be avoided during package publishing time? Can anyone let us know if this is the expected behavior or its a bug(server requiring to know about custom action at package publishing time) It's not a bug at the moment, but it'd be rerally nice to get rid fo the dependency. Could you file an RFE to track this? Isn't this really more than a nice to? Isn't it really a pretty bad bug? One common response to no scripting is we can added new actions when we need to. In the future when the world is running thousands of IPS repositories then this bug makes it pretty impractical to add a new action. Joe Thanks, Danek ___ pkg-discuss mailing list pkg-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-discuss ___ pkg-discuss mailing list pkg-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-discuss
