Re: Bug#523899: Stop providing KDE 3 support
Hi, Rene Engelhard wrote: Sune Vuorela wrote: On Monday 13 April 2009 15:35:08 Ana Guerrero wrote: about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. I agree that kde3 integration is not relevant in a kde4 environment. Using Qt3 dialogs sticks just as much out as being wrong as GTK or fltk dialogs. That's true, but OOo without any integration is really ugly (see also below, just try it :) ) OK, then -kde and -kab will be disabled in the next upload on each branch (for 3.0.1 only if there actually will be another upload...) Had a quick discussion with calc on IRC (even a few days ago); Ubuntu still ships -kde: 23:51 @_rene_ calc: btw, #523899... Day changed to 14 Apr 2009 00:15 -!- mikeadvo [~mich...@p578b3c6a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:20 -!- mikeadvo (Michael Stehmann) [~mich...@p578b3c6a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-oo 00:53 calc _rene_: you may want to ask them to look at what OOo looks like with -kde removed currently... 00:53 calc we were thinking about removing it in Ubuntu this cycle but once the kde people saw how ugly native OOo looked they decided they wanted to keep kde3 support instead :) 00:55 calc kde users are likely to have kde3 apps still anyway since kde4 was largely a rewrite so will still be seeing kde3 file dialogs anyway 00:55 calc so dropping kde support entirely and going back to the horrific native dialogs is probably not something the users will really want, heh 00:56 calc best case is if someone that knows enough about kde could just update the file picker to work on kde4 Just FYI :) Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' r...@debian.org | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: Bug#523899: Stop providing KDE 3 support
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 02:45:04PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: Hi, Ana Guerrero wrote: With KDE 3 as default kde in unstable, the kde 3 support provided in ^ 4? ;) openoffice.org (-kde and -kab AFAIR) is not longer useful. Please stop building it. Last I loooked it still showed Qt dialogs even when used in KDE4.. So what exactly is not useful anymore? The file picker? The KAB integration? (The latter can be disabled on its own afair) I am not an openffice.org user in debian, so i might have missed something, but so far: the -kab integration is linking against the old kde3 libraries, so it hardly can work with current kaddressbook et all. about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. For me it is ok to keep -kde if you rename it to -kde3, but not sure it is worth the bothering (NEW...) Ana PS: CC'ed pkg-kde-talk@ in case some heavy OOo users has something to add. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: Bug#523899: Stop providing KDE 3 support
On Monday 13 April 2009 15:35:08 Ana Guerrero wrote: about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. I agree that kde3 integration is not relevant in a kde4 environment. Using Qt3 dialogs sticks just as much out as being wrong as GTK or fltk dialogs. the kab parts might still be usable, I don't think they *yet* have changed the storage format, but it is just a matter of time. /Sune -- Do you know how may I do for debugging the jumper to the processor from Photoshop? The point is that you have to link a FPU to close the coaxial periferic. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: Bug#523899: Stop providing KDE 3 support
tag 523899 + pending thanks Sune Vuorela wrote: On Monday 13 April 2009 15:35:08 Ana Guerrero wrote: about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. I agree that kde3 integration is not relevant in a kde4 environment. Using Qt3 dialogs sticks just as much out as being wrong as GTK or fltk dialogs. OK, then -kde and -kab will be disabled in the next upload on each branch (for 3.0.1 only if there actually will be another upload...) Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' r...@debian.org | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: Bug#523899: Stop providing KDE 3 support
On Monday 13 April 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: On Monday 13 April 2009 15:35:08 Ana Guerrero wrote: about -kde is supposed to show it integrated with kde4/qt4 and if that is working (i have not checked), it will be kde3/qt3 and you have to install kdelibs from kde3 that some users might have ride of already. I agree that kde3 integration is not relevant in a kde4 environment. Using Qt3 dialogs sticks just as much out as being wrong as GTK or fltk dialogs. the kab parts might still be usable, I don't think they *yet* have changed the storage format, but it is just a matter of time. We will provide compatibility adaptors though, the KABC API is part of kdepimlibs until KDE5. However it is likely that at some point any integration efforts will probably switch to the new API. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
