Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Hi Alessio, On Oct 22, 2014 11:09 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Team, I guess you've noticed the announcement in d-d-a, and I want to thank you all for the great effort. Keep up the amazing work! Do you plan posting it on your blog to let it appear on planet.debian.org? Cheers, Balint ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Am Mittwoch, den 22.10.2014, 22:08 +0100 schrieb Alessio Treglia: I guess you've noticed the announcement in d-d-a, and I want to thank you all for the great effort. Alessio, thank you very much for taking care of that! - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Hi, Yep, I've planned to publish it to Planet Debian around lunchtime today (London time) Cheers! sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2014-10-23 10:36 GMT+02:00 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: Hi, Yep, I've planned to publish it to Planet Debian around lunchtime today (London time) Thanks, and also thank you for putting it together. Cheers, Balint ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On 22 Oct 2014 18:08, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Team, I guess you've noticed the announcement in d-d-a, and I want to thank you all for the great effort. Keep up the amazing work \o/ thanks for pushing this! ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2014-10-21 15:11 GMT+02:00 Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org: On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Gentlemen, It looks pretty good to me, anyone wants to give another proofreading? Looks good to me too. I just changed plans - news (after all, we are almost at the freeze so work not done will not be in jessie), and programs should be neutral: it, not he. Still time to add qtractor and hydrogen to updated apps? mira ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Yes, please add them. sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Quoting Jaromír Mikeš (2014-10-22 10:17:24) 2014-10-21 15:11 GMT+02:00 Felipe Sateler [1]fsate...@debian.org: On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Alessio Treglia [2]ales...@debian.org wrote: Gentlemen, It looks pretty good to me, anyone wants to give another proofreading? Looks good to me too. I just changed plans - news (after all, we are almost at the freeze so work not done will not be in jessie), and programs should be neutral: it, not he. Still time to add qtractor and hydrogen to updated apps? Don't ask, just do it! Worst thing that can happen is it gets released in parallel to your edit and your work then is wasted. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2014-10-22 11:38 GMT+02:00 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: Yes, please add them. Done! ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Team, I guess you've noticed the announcement in d-d-a, and I want to thank you all for the great effort. Keep up the amazing work! :) Alessio sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Gentlemen, It looks pretty good to me, anyone wants to give another proofreading? -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Gentlemen, It looks pretty good to me, anyone wants to give another proofreading? Looks good to me too. I just changed plans - news (after all, we are almost at the freeze so work not done will not be in jessie), and programs should be neutral: it, not he. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Am Samstag, den 18.10.2014, 16:40 +0100 schrieb Alessio Treglia: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom Just a nitpick, but in the very first paragraph we claim that libavcodec is used by totem, among others. However, this is only true if the gstreamer1.0-libav package is installed. Should this get noted there or is this just a technical detail that nobody else cares about? - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com wrote: gstreamer1.0-libav package is installed. Should this get noted there or is this just a technical detail that nobody else cares about? Yes, although it could be redundant to some, for sure it wouldn't do any harm to explicitly remind users about that. So please could you add a note about it? Cheers/ -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Matteo F. Vescovi mfvesc...@gmail.com wrote: probably it's quite safe to bump it to 2.72a. Please do fix it. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Ciao! On Oct 19, 2014 10:29 AM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Matteo F. Vescovi mfvesc...@gmail.com wrote: probably it's quite safe to bump it to 2.72a. Please do fix it. Done. Cheers. mfv ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Quoting Alessio Treglia (2014-10-19 19:40:19) On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: I added flowblade, but that package has since been moved out ot the Debian Multimedia team due to lack of multiple maintainers. If someone in the team is interested in co-maintaining Flowblade then great! I'm interested in both so please add me to the Uploaders list [1]. Great! I will do that, and move those back to our team git! Perhaps you are then also interested in co-maintaining Shotcut with me? - it is written by the author of MLT: http://www.shotcutapp.com/ [1] Although I bet you use CDBS to maintain them, don't you? But well, I can live with it [2] [2] I'm just joking! Please do add me :) Pffft. :-) - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
The draft is ready: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom Cheers! -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On sab, ott 18, 2014 at 04:40:12 +0100, Alessio Treglia wrote: The draft is ready: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom After a quick read, it looks good to me. I fixed a couple of typos in the mplayer removal section (see [0]). Cheers [0] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom?action=diffrev2=138rev1=137 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Quoting Alessio Treglia (2014-10-18 17:40:12) The draft is ready: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom I realized one issue: I added flowblade, but that package has since been moved out ot the Debian Multimedia team due to lack of multiple maintainers. If someone in the team is interested in co-maintaining Flowblade then great! Else I will leave it up to you guys if unfair that it gets promoted via this newsletter (noone commented on my suggestion to invite others outside the team, so I guess I would be the only one). In a related note: Morituri would also love co-maintainers. There might be other packages as well - tell me if interested and I will look it up. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Ciao! On Oct 18, 2014 5:40 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: The draft is ready: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom Blender upstream released 2.72a (bugfix) version yesterday. I guess I shouldn't face huge issues in updating to this fresh new stuff. So probably it's quite safe to bump it to 2.72a. Good night. Cheers. mfv ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On dom, ott 12, 2014 at 02:18:42 -0400, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I personally think we should not mention any of lame, xvidcore, x264 or mplayer2. All of these packages are already in stable, so the text as current is not exactly news. Sounds absolutely sensible. Dropped in Revision 131. Feel free to revert if you disagree. I removed mplayer2 as well. The note about mencoder is also present below where the removal of mplayer is mentioned. Cheers signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On 10/13/2014 03:46 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: On 12 Oct 2014 20:03, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org mailto:ales...@debian.org wrote: [...] Felipe, could you share some info on it please? I have unfortunately let it alone for too long, but I don't think I have the energy to move the task forward. Perhaps we should ask for removal. Rather than removal, if you were interested in a volunteer going forward after the release, I might be willing to step forward. I do some packaging in the Debian Gis Team. And there it is just one or two guys that monitor the commits, and keep the tasks up to date (basically add new packages and tweak ones that change names like libraries etc.). Sometimes, some of the other packagers occasionally remember to send a patch :-) It is not that onerous once the tasks are clearly defined and up to date. Ross ross-guest on alioth ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Ross Gammon r...@the-gammons.net wrote: On 10/13/2014 03:46 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: On 12 Oct 2014 20:03, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org mailto:ales...@debian.org wrote: [...] Felipe, could you share some info on it please? I have unfortunately let it alone for too long, but I don't think I have the energy to move the task forward. Perhaps we should ask for removal. Rather than removal, if you were interested in a volunteer going forward after the release, I might be willing to step forward. I do some packaging in the Debian Gis Team. And there it is just one or two guys that monitor the commits, and keep the tasks up to date (basically add new packages and tweak ones that change names like libraries etc.). Sometimes, some of the other packagers occasionally remember to send a patch :-) It is not that onerous once the tasks are clearly defined and up to date. I certainly won't stop anyone that wants to do this. I can also help in applying patches (and uploading, if you need sponsoring). But the hard part, creating useful tasks in the first place, is what I failed to do. Hopefully you can succeed where I didn't. I wonder if the tasks have any use as-is and maybe we should just publicize them a bit more so that users can tell us what they miss. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On 10/13/2014 06:16 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: [...] I certainly won't stop anyone that wants to do this. I can also help in applying patches (and uploading, if you need sponsoring). But the hard part, creating useful tasks in the first place, is what I failed to do. Hopefully you can succeed where I didn't. I wonder if the tasks have any use as-is and maybe we should just publicize them a bit more so that users can tell us what they miss. I have just brought the tasks page [1] up to the Multimedia Wiki front page [2] so it is only one click away instead of two. [1] http://blends.debian.org/multimedia/tasks/index [2] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/ I think you are right. The tasks look reasonable at first glance. Clicking on one of the tasks takes you to a page full of multimedia packages where users are able to contribute screenshots and debtags. There is also this text: If you discover a project which looks like a good candidate for Debian Multimedia to you, or if you have prepared an unofficial Debian package, please do not hesitate to send a description of that project to the Debian Multimedia mailing list We could advertise this a bit more. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Ross Gammon r...@the-gammons.net wrote: On 10/13/2014 06:16 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: [...] I certainly won't stop anyone that wants to do this. I can also help in applying patches (and uploading, if you need sponsoring). But the hard part, creating useful tasks in the first place, is what I failed to do. Hopefully you can succeed where I didn't. I wonder if the tasks have any use as-is and maybe we should just publicize them a bit more so that users can tell us what they miss. I have just brought the tasks page [1] up to the Multimedia Wiki front page [2] so it is only one click away instead of two. [1] http://blends.debian.org/multimedia/tasks/index [2] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/ I think you are right. The tasks look reasonable at first glance. Clicking on one of the tasks takes you to a page full of multimedia packages where users are able to contribute screenshots and debtags. There is also this text: If you discover a project which looks like a good candidate for Debian Multimedia to you, or if you have prepared an unofficial Debian package, please do not hesitate to send a description of that project to the Debian Multimedia mailing list We could advertise this a bit more. OK I added a small paragraph for the multimedia tasks. Lets hope we get some interest in this. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I personally think we should not mention any of lame, xvidcore, x264 or mplayer2. All of these packages are already in stable, so the text as current is not exactly news. Sounds absolutely sensible. What about the debian-multimedia task? [1] Do you think it's worth mentioning? [1] https://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-multimedia.html -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I personally think we should not mention any of lame, xvidcore, x264 or mplayer2. All of these packages are already in stable, so the text as current is not exactly news. Sounds absolutely sensible. Dropped in Revision 131. Feel free to revert if you disagree. What about the debian-multimedia task? [1] Do you think it's worth mentioning? I would think that it is worth clarifying the scope and intention of the task. Unfortunately, those are not really clear to me. I'm not sure who is currently pushing that task. Best, Reinhard ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On 12 Oct 2014 19:18, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: Dropped in Revision 131. Feel free to revert if you disagree. Looks absolutely good, thanks! I would think that it is worth clarifying the scope and intention of the task. Unfortunately, those are not really clear to me. I'm not sure who is currently pushing that task. The signature of package's latest version is Felipe's, so let's ask him. Felipe, could you share some info on it please? Cheers! Alessio ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On 12 Oct 2014 20:03, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: On 12 Oct 2014 19:18, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: Dropped in Revision 131. Feel free to revert if you disagree. Looks absolutely good, thanks! I would think that it is worth clarifying the scope and intention of the task. Unfortunately, those are not really clear to me. I'm not sure who is currently pushing that task. The signature of package's latest version is Felipe's, so let's ask him. Felipe, could you share some info on it please? I have unfortunately let it alone for too long, but I don't think I have the energy to move the task forward. Perhaps we should ask for removal. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 07:01:09PM +0100, Alessio Treglia wrote: Folks, If you want to add some last bits, please do it by tomorrow morning, I updated the mplayer2 section and added mplayer to the dropped section (I also slightly edited the mpv description). They all probably need some proof-reading though. Also, I noticed that a lot of the changes mentioned are mostly relevant to wheezy (e.g. lame, x264, libav, xvidcore, ...), so maybe the fact that the changes presented are not only relevant to jessie should be mentioned (the first paragraph kinda does this, but IMO it's not very clear). Also^2, the libav section IMO should be more about what version are we going to release and what new changes it brings since wheezy. This can be compiled from libav release notes [0] [1] [2], though I'll leave that to the libav maintainer judgment. The fact that we switched from ffmpeg is, I think, pretty clear to everyone already. I'd intend to mail it in the early afternoon. Will you send a draft to this list before that? Cheers [0] http://libav.org/releases/libav-9.17.release [1] http://libav.org/releases/libav-10.5.release [2] http://libav.org/releases/libav-11.release signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Quoting Alessio Treglia (2014-10-10 20:01:09) If you want to add some last bits, please do it by tomorrow morning, I'd intend to mail it in the early afternoon. I added Flowblade - I sure hope my edit didn't mess up with your later commit, Allesio (your lock had expired when I did it). Great text! One detail that I find relevant for us to mention is that recent Calf no longer provide LADSPA plugins. That is not a dropped package nor is it a broken functionality. Main reason I find it important for us to mention is that MLT is poorly documented, and upstream web pages lists Calf plugins as possible filters, which easily causes confusion (it did for me, several times!). I suggest either adding a subsection for dropped LADSPA plugins, or (better, I think) rename to the more generic LADSPA plugins and LV2 plugins. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Will you send a draft to this list before that? Sure I will. On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Alessandro Ghedini gh...@debian.org wrote: Also, I noticed that a lot of the changes mentioned are mostly relevant to wheezy (e.g. lame, x264, libav, xvidcore, ...), so maybe the fact that the changes presented are not only relevant to jessie should be mentioned (the first paragraph kinda does this, but IMO it's not very clear). I agree, we'd better to postpone the announcement until those sections are clarified. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Alessandro Ghedini gh...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 07:01:09PM +0100, Alessio Treglia wrote: Folks, If you want to add some last bits, please do it by tomorrow morning, I updated the mplayer2 section and added mplayer to the dropped section (I also slightly edited the mpv description). They all probably need some proof-reading though. Thanks for the update. I do have a comment about the last two sentences: Note that while mplayer2 adds a few new features, others (such as mencoder) have been dropped as well. Also note that mplayer2 is not maintained upstream anymore (differently from e.g. mpv). I'm not sure if it makes sense to mention its upstream support status, because you might ask the question well, why do you keep it then in the first place?. Fact is that Debian is going to support the package for wheezy, and the statement as written is rather confusing. Also, I noticed that a lot of the changes mentioned are mostly relevant to wheezy (e.g. lame, x264, libav, xvidcore, ...), so maybe the fact that the changes presented are not only relevant to jessie should be mentioned (the first paragraph kinda does this, but IMO it's not very clear). FWIW, I personally think we should not mention any of lame, xvidcore, x264 or mplayer2. All of these packages are already in stable, so the text as current is not exactly news. Also, I'm a bit weary with advertising that Debian now ships with fancy modern decoders, because I fear of trolls that ask questions about legality, patents, etc. I've therefore avoided references regarding that in my proposed text for libavcodec/libav. Also^2, the libav section IMO should be more about what version are we going to release and what new changes it brings since wheezy. This can be compiled from libav release notes [0] [1] [2], though I'll leave that to the libav maintainer judgment. The fact that we switched from ffmpeg is, I think, pretty clear to everyone already. Exactly. I've just updated the section. BTW, the maintainer of libav is (currently) the pkg-multimedia team ;-) -- regards, Reinhard ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Folks, If you want to add some last bits, please do it by tomorrow morning, I'd intend to mail it in the early afternoon. Cheers. sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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2014-10-04 12:06 GMT+02:00 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: But what do you think about my list ... are these worth to mention? Absolutely they are! I also added eq10q calf and xjadeo There are some more package which should be mentioned IMHO But probably somebody more familiar with their status should add entry. audacity qtractor hydrogen rosegarden flac harvid rtkit rtirq setbfree best regards mira ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2014, 10:03 +0200 schrieb Jaromír Mikeš: flac I don't think a new upstream release is really worth mentioning. - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2014-10-07 11:35 GMT+02:00 Fabian Greffrath fab...@greffrath.com: Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2014, 10:03 +0200 schrieb Jaromír Mikeš: flac I don't think a new upstream release is really worth mentioning. even if done after so long time and mean that project has been revived? mira ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2014, 11:53 +0200 schrieb Jaromír Mikeš: even if done after so long time and mean that project has been revived? IMHO Yes. With packaging the new release, we -- as Debian -- have merely done what is expected from us. By mentioning even the smallest details and selling them as news, we take relevance from the really important changes and steal their spotlight. - Fabian ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On 10/07/2014 12:06 PM, Fabian Greffrath wrote: Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2014, 11:53 +0200 schrieb Jaromír Mikeš: even if done after so long time and mean that project has been revived? IMHO Yes. With packaging the new release, we -- as Debian -- have merely done what is expected from us. By mentioning even the smallest details and selling them as news, we take relevance from the really important changes and steal their spotlight. i agree. i've updated the wiki to separate new and merely updated applications. i've also had a go and sorted them alphabetically, as this seems the only reasonable sorting criteria i can come up with. fgmdsar IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:29 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) umlae...@debian.org wrote: i've updated the wiki to separate new and merely updated applications. Good point. i've also had a go and sorted them alphabetically, as this seems the only reasonable sorting criteria i can come up with. Thanks! -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2014-10-07 12:29 GMT+02:00 IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) umlae...@debian.org: i've updated the wiki to separate new and merely updated applications. Good idea! I did the same for plugins. regards mira ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: I think we should also note that rtkit will be broken in the default install (pulseaudio seems to be the only user). See bug #747568 for more details. If someone has any idea on how to work around this problem we should probably fix it. I have added a stub section for this issue. Hopefully someone will know how to fix this. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On 04. Oktober 2014 17:54:12 MESZ, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: Also, PD-land has not made any updates yet. IOhannes, Hans-Cristoph? I'll try to add something tonight when i have a real computer again... mfg.gsd.xbi IOhannes -- sent from my pdp-11 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On 10/04/2014 04:26 PM, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: What about dropped packages? Should we mention them? If yes can you start paragraph for them please? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom#What.27s_not_going_to_be_in while we have not abandoned flumotion officially yet, i think this is probably the time to do it. afaik, no progress has been made to fix it's build-dependencies, which means that this package has not migrated to testing for ages. gfmdsr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On 10/03/2014 09:54 PM, Alessio Treglia wrote: Bump. I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. thanks for taking the initiative. i'm having a bit of trouble on the wiki with the section JACK, LADI, LV2, and audio plugins. is there any specific reason why the two groups (audio plugins vs jack) are bundled together? i would rather have a section plugins, that covers audio plugins (lv2, ladspa,...) and probably also video plugins (frei0r, which is a bit lonely on its own but has seen a noteable upgrade for jessie) fgmrdsa IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On 10/06/2014 10:40 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 10/03/2014 09:54 PM, Alessio Treglia wrote: Bump. I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. thanks for taking the initiative. i'm having a bit of trouble on the wiki with the section JACK, LADI, LV2, and audio plugins. well, since it's a wiki i changed it to what i think is a better structure :-) the lash-ladish change should probably (still) go into Frameworks and Libraries. gfmdsar IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@umlaeute.mur.at wrote: On 10/04/2014 04:26 PM, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: What about dropped packages? Should we mention them? If yes can you start paragraph for them please? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom#What.27s_not_going_to_be_in while we have not abandoned flumotion officially yet, i think this is probably the time to do it. afaik, no progress has been made to fix it's build-dependencies, which means that this package has not migrated to testing for ages. Regarding Flumotion 0.10.1 (which appears newer than ours), upstream webpage [1] says: Features of this release * Added twisted 12 compatibility I don't know much about the full story here though, so nevermind if I'm doing confusion. [1] http://www.flumotion.net/releases/flumotion/0.10.1.html -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Am 07. Oktober 2014 00:28:42 MESZ, schrieb Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@umlaeute.mur.at wrote: On 10/04/2014 04:26 PM, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: What about dropped packages? Should we mention them? If yes can you start paragraph for them please? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom#What.27s_not_going_to_be_in while we have not abandoned flumotion officially yet, i think this is probably the time to do it. afaik, no progress has been made to fix it's build-dependencies, which means that this package has not migrated to testing for ages. Regarding Flumotion 0.10.1 (which appears newer than ours), upstream webpage [1] says: Features of this release * Added twisted 12 compatibility I don't know much about the full story here though, iirc, i have packaged and prepared a flumotion-0.10.1 upgrade a (longer) while ago, but it ftbs even in my machine. The problem is not twisted (which was easy enough to fix), but gstreamer-1.0 which is explicitely not supported upstream, resp. ffmpeg for which there are only gst-0.10 packages. mfg.gsd.xbi IOhannes -- sent from my pdp-11 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Resending with the list included. Unrelated: can somebody suggest a mua for android that has reply-to-list? Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: forum::für::umläute zmoel...@umlaeute.mur.at Gesendet: 07. Oktober 2014 06:57:06 MESZ An: Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org, Debian Multimedia Maintainers pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org Betreff: Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED] Am 07. Oktober 2014 00:28:42 MESZ, schrieb Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:44 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@umlaeute.mur.at wrote: On 10/04/2014 04:26 PM, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: What about dropped packages? Should we mention them? If yes can you start paragraph for them please? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom#What.27s_not_going_to_be_in while we have not abandoned flumotion officially yet, i think this is probably the time to do it. afaik, no progress has been made to fix it's build-dependencies, which means that this package has not migrated to testing for ages. Regarding Flumotion 0.10.1 (which appears newer than ours), upstream webpage [1] says: Features of this release * Added twisted 12 compatibility I don't know much about the full story here though, iirc, i have packaged and prepared a flumotion-0.10.1 upgrade a (longer) while ago, but it ftbs even in my machine. The problem is not twisted (which was easy enough to fix), but gstreamer-1.0 which is explicitely not supported upstream, resp. ffmpeg for which there are only gst-0.10 packages. mfg.gsd.xbi IOhannes -- sent from my pdp-11 mfg.gsd.xbi IOhannes -- sent from my pdp-11___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Hi Allessio On 2014-10-03 20:54:30, Alessio Treglia wrote: I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) - Mediatomb (Hector?) - VLC (Benjamin?) - Handbrake (Sebastian?) I have added some bits on VLC, HandBrake and libva and will extend them next week. Cheers -- Sebastian Ramacher signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Quoting Alessio Treglia (2014-10-03 21:54:30) I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) - Mediatomb (Hector?) - VLC (Benjamin?) - Handbrake (Sebastian?) I suggest we invite the maintainers of MLT, GStreamer, Phonon and Xine to write briefly what has changed in those frameworks since release of Wheezy. They are not in the Debian Multimedia Maintainers team (or at least I don't think so) but changes there greatly affect multimedia for our users, and I can only see such invitation as a friendly vibe :-) Would be great with a section on progress in ways to fetch online videos - i.e. youtube-dl, quvi and clive → cclive. Again I think that's mostly outside of our team but used in e.g. mpv. I guess VLC also has such features embedded. I see an entry about x264 having entered Debian. Probably relevant to mention also VP9, de265 and Opus codecs (and Celt codec been dropped?). - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: When was our last news? Nearly 4 years ago! We are not that good at marketing our work, aren't we? :) I guess my last exciting action here was adding Flowblade. It entered testing more than a year ago, but I don't think it has been promoted much. I didn't even notice it, looks amazing. Yeah, definitely worth a mention! Not mine but probably worth mentioning that a slew of LADSPA stuff has been dropped: jackrack (and some other hosts I believe - just cannot remember which) - seems the only independent host for LADSPA now is jalv+naspro. Also Calf has dropped support for LADSPA. Reason I care about LADSPA is that MLT framework has support for that but not LV2. Agreed, the LADSPA thing is a pretty important one. Should we also think about stuff relevant to include in release notes, then there is definitely the introduction of VP9 and Opus codecs. Agreed. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: Here are my candidates: Sorry buddy but... no please, let's not start writing down our personal lists of candidates here. Let's write to the document what we consider important enough instead. So please, edit the wiki page yourself :) -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2014-10-04 9:35 GMT+02:00 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: Here are my candidates: Sorry buddy but... no please, let's not start writing down our personal lists of candidates here. Let's write to the document what we consider important enough instead. So please, edit the wiki page yourself :) I have checked the wiki page and since the Libav/FFmpeg part feels too biased towards Libav. I will make a separate blog post for XBMC trying to be more balanced. I already blog about XBMC's state in Debian regularly [1] and it gets aggregated to planet.d.o thus most of our users are probably aware of the revived packages. There is one post in the works about latest updates but I wanted to give a few days to Libav to fix the VDPAU bug [1] hurting many users. I have added a note about forked-daapd, which I think would be interesting for users. Cheers, Balint [1] http://balintreczey.hu/blog/tag/xbmc/ [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=745060 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Bálint Réczey bal...@balintreczey.hu wrote: I have checked the wiki page and since the Libav/FFmpeg part feels too biased towards Libav. I will make a separate blog post for XBMC trying to be more balanced. That part needs update anyway. I don't feel like populating our bits with allegations on the matter, and I guess others like me don't too. No more polemic, we have, already, had enough of it. Though having said that, and seen what the majority of us has publicly expressed recently, I would like to state the rationale behind our position against the proposal to replace libav with FFmpeg instead, which could be AFAICT fundamentally summaried as it's too late for Jessie. What do you think about it? I already blog about XBMC's state in Debian regularly [1] and it gets aggregated to planet.d.o thus most of our users are probably aware of the revived packages. There is one post in the works about latest updates but I wanted to give a few days to Libav to fix the VDPAU bug [1] hurting many users. Please add some of such interesting information to the page, I believe users will appreciate it. I have added a note about forked-daapd, which I think would be interesting for users. That's great, thanks. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Hi Alessio, 2014-10-04 13:14 GMT+02:00 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Bálint Réczey bal...@balintreczey.hu wrote: I have checked the wiki page and since the Libav/FFmpeg part feels too biased towards Libav. I will make a separate blog post for XBMC trying to be more balanced. That part needs update anyway. I don't feel like populating our bits with allegations on the matter, and I guess others like me don't too. No more polemic, we have, already, had enough of it. Though having said that, and seen what the majority of us has publicly expressed recently, I would like to state the rationale behind our position against the proposal to replace libav with FFmpeg instead, which could be AFAICT fundamentally summaried as it's too late for Jessie. What do you think about it? I think the Libav or FFmpeg in Jessie choice is artificial and I don't want to legitimize it by writing about XBMC in a context where it is shown as valid. IMO both Libav and FFmpeg should be let to enter Jessie and package maintainers should have the choice of using either of them. Technically it is now possible and I see arguments against letting FFmpeg into Jessie weak. I already blog about XBMC's state in Debian regularly [1] and it gets aggregated to planet.d.o thus most of our users are probably aware of the revived packages. There is one post in the works about latest updates but I wanted to give a few days to Libav to fix the VDPAU bug [1] hurting many users. Please add some of such interesting information to the page, I believe users will appreciate it. I think the current state of XBMC does not show the team in a good light thus I'm not sure if it is a good idea to talk about in Bits. Cheers, Balint I have added a note about forked-daapd, which I think would be interesting for users. That's great, thanks. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On ven, ott 03, 2014 at 08:54:30 +0100, Alessio Treglia wrote: Bump. I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) Not sure what kind of information would be useful here. mpv v0.6.0 has just been released and that's pretty much what will get in jessie (there are going to be a couple of bugfix releases before the freeze though). The mpv package description has a short list of changes from mplayer2, but I haven't touched it in a while so it may be a little outdated. If needed I can prepare a better list of improvements vs mplayer/mplayer2. Also, worth mentioning maybe is that a) mpv's command-line options are not compatible with the mplayer ones and that b) since mpv dropped some old mplayer code in favor of libav/ffmpeg features, there may be some incompatibilities there as well (also, considering that Debian uses libav instead of ffmpeg, some mpv features work better with ffmpeg or don't work at all with libav). Cheers signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Alessandro Ghedini gh...@debian.org wrote: The mpv package description has a short list of changes from mplayer2, but I haven't touched it in a while so it may be a little outdated. If needed I can prepare a better list of improvements vs mplayer/mplayer2. Yes, please, it would be much appreciated. Also, worth mentioning maybe is that a) mpv's command-line options are not compatible with the mplayer ones and that b) since mpv dropped some old mplayer code in favor of libav/ffmpeg features, there may be some incompatibilities there as well (also, considering that Debian uses libav instead of ffmpeg, some mpv features work better with ffmpeg or don't work at all with libav). Please leave a note on this too. It may also be worth mentioning that MPlayer has been dropped, and that mplayer2 is essentially dead upstream. +1 -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: What about dropped packages? Should we mention them? If yes can you start paragraph for them please? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom#What.27s_not_going_to_be_in -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Andrew Kelley superjo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. Thanks for bringing this up! We should really do this. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) - Mediatomb (Hector?) - VLC (Benjamin?) - Handbrake (Sebastian?) Jonas, Jaromír, Matteo, Stuart et al : anything to declare? :) I have updated the csound and supercollider sections. I think we should also note that rtkit will be broken in the default install (pulseaudio seems to be the only user). See bug #747568 for more details. If someone has any idea on how to work around this problem we should probably fix it. Also, PD-land has not made any updates yet. IOhannes, Hans-Cristoph? Groove Basin is on track to be uploaded before the freeze. I'm hoping this is something users could be excited about. It has just been uploaded. Lets hope ftp-master can review it before the freeze. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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2014-10-04 16:20 GMT+02:00 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: Hi again, (replying here to both Reinhard and Bálint) On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: What I currently read on the wiki page about FFmpeg - Libav was probably appropriate back then, but now two years later, I don't think its really appropriate. This is exactly what I was trying to communicate, apparently I haven't been clear enough. Sorry about that. Bálint, I think the Libav or FFmpeg in Jessie choice is artificial and I don't want to legitimize it by writing about XBMC in a context where it is shown as valid. IMO both Libav and FFmpeg should be let to enter Jessie and package maintainers should have the choice of using either of them. We want neither to talk shit about FFmpeg nor praise Libav, most of us simply think that is not appropriate to replace Libav with FFmpeg at this stage. Personally I don't care whether FFmpeg will go down its own path to Debian Jessie succesfully or not. We (many of us) just answered a question about which one among ffmpeg and libav should be the provider for libav* libraries. It is a non-binding, non-political opinion on the subject, and likely no particular consequences will follow as it's mostly business of the security team. I extended my answer in the original thread. Presumably we are not going to maintain FFmpeg either way, so if the release team is OK with having FFmpeg in Jessie, then it's fine for me too. I think the current state of XBMC does not show the team in a good light thus I'm not sure if it is a good idea to talk about in Bits. Could you please elaborate? I would love to ship XBMC giving the same pleasant experience as upstream's packages, but the closest thing I can provide in Debian is stuck in experimental because ffmpeg can't enter testing. Libav works fine in most cases, but VDPAU acceleration does not work with Libav 10+ and this bug have been reported against XBMC several times. The next version of XBMC (now Kodi) dropped Libav compatibility code completely which I don't agree with but it means more work on the Debian packages if I want to make them work with Libav. I strongly agree with some of Libav's goals like redesigning the API to make it safer and cleaning the code, but keeping important features such as VDPAU acceleration broken for a long time makes the fork less appealing. I think this situation is complex enough to not fit bits, maybe kBytes from the Multimedia Team. I have added a short paragraph about XBMC, making it as neutral as I could. Cheers, Balint Given the current FFmpeg/Libav packaging tension, I'm having a hard time to come up with a summary of the current state of affairs. One option would be to say anything, which I would consider better than the current text on the wiki that is two years late. Sure. However, Ideally we would say something about the new features in Libav10 and Libav11. That would be amazing! What's the timeline for sending out the announcement? Alessio, I take it that you are driving this effort. Maybe you can set a tentative deadline when you want to have it sent out? I'm planning to release it in, say, ~1 week, next Saturday or Sunday. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Bálint Réczey bal...@balintreczey.hu wrote: I think this situation is complex enough to not fit bits, maybe kBytes from the Multimedia Team. I have added a short paragraph about XBMC, making it as neutral as I could. Fair enough, thanks. And please, do keep up the great work with XBMC! -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer| quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: Groove Basin is on track to be uploaded before the freeze. I'm hoping this is something users could be excited about. It has just been uploaded. Lets hope ftp-master can review it before the freeze. Let us hope. Meanwhile I added it to the wiki. Feel free to edit if it's too long. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Bump. I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) - Mediatomb (Hector?) - VLC (Benjamin?) - Handbrake (Sebastian?) Jonas, Jaromír, Matteo, Stuart et al : anything to declare? :) sent via mobile ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) - Mediatomb (Hector?) - VLC (Benjamin?) - Handbrake (Sebastian?) Jonas, Jaromír, Matteo, Stuart et al : anything to declare? :) Groove Basin https://github.com/andrewrk/groovebasin is on track to be uploaded before the freeze. I'm hoping this is something users could be excited about. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Quoting Andrew Kelley (2014-10-03 22:10:04) Groove Basin is on track to be uploaded before the freeze. I'm hoping this is something users could be excited about. It sure is! Please pretty please do it as very soonest as possible! You might already be too late by now if I understand it correctly that you need to introduce some new packages, which then need to wait for ftpmasters to have time to inspect it - and they might be _very_ busy this close to the freeze and most likely won't prioritize new packages. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Hi Alessio! On Oct 3, 2014 9:54 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: [...] Jonas, Jaromír, Matteo, Stuart et al : anything to declare? :) Today, Blender 2.72 has been released officially. I'll wait until monday to import it in the git repository and start working on a new revision. I really hope to find a fix to the long lasting issue of illegal instruction on non-SSE2 CPUs, fixed on almost all cases but not all ;) Cheers. -- (Imagine a red swirl here) ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Quoting Alessio Treglia (2014-10-03 21:54:30) I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) - Mediatomb (Hector?) - VLC (Benjamin?) - Handbrake (Sebastian?) Jonas, Jaromír, Matteo, Stuart et al : anything to declare? :) When was our last news? I guess my last exciting action here was adding Flowblade. It entered testing more than a year ago, but I don't think it has been promoted much. (...and I really should upgrade it to newest upstream release...) Not mine but probably worth mentioning that a slew of LADSPA stuff has been dropped: jackrack (and some other hosts I believe - just cannot remember which) - seems the only independent host for LADSPA now is jalv+naspro. Also Calf has dropped support for LADSPA. Reason I care about LADSPA is that MLT framework has support for that but not LV2. Should we also think about stuff relevant to include in release notes, then there is definitely the introduction of VP9 and Opus codecs. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On 03.10.2014 21:54, Alessio Treglia wrote: Bump. I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) - Mediatomb (Hector?) - VLC (Benjamin?) - Handbrake (Sebastian?) Jonas, Jaromír, Matteo, Stuart et al : anything to declare? :) sent via mobile At next week I'll update smplayer. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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2014-10-03 21:54 GMT+02:00 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: Bump. I know that it's a quite boring thing to do but IMHO we'd do a great service to all our users by releasing an update on what they'll find on Jessie. I'll try to allocate some time tomorrow to do my bits (LV2, various libs and programs), I would also love to see updates on: - Jack (Adrian?) - Libav (Reinhard?) - XBMC (Balínt?) - MPV (Alessandro?) - Mediatomb (Hector?) - VLC (Benjamin?) - Handbrake (Sebastian?) Jonas, Jaromír, Matteo, Stuart et al : anything to declare? :) Hi, Here are my candidates: Ardour3 is worth of mention New LV2 instruments kit vee one suite samplv1 drumkv1 synthv1 New LV2 plugins bundles: zam-plugins x42-plugins New stereo LADSPA plugins ste-plugins We maintain new timecode library libltc We have new midiclock utility: jack-midi-clock We unfortunately had to drop few upstream unmaintained packages: specimen ... we have good replacement in petri-foo phat lv2fil zynjacku New packages from Fon's zita series: zita-bls1 zita-mu1 zita-njbridge We have finally: sonic-visualiser best regards mira ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On 03/23/2012 02:38 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: [LADISH] We are still missing an explanation on the following sentence: Note that JACK needs to compile with a no-self-connect patch enabled in order to prevent clients self-connect/disconnect their own ports to ports of other JACK applications. The current jackd2 version available in Debian Wheezy fully supports ladish and also cooperates fine with it. What does this mean for jackd1? If it is enabled, is this worth mentioning? jackd1 can't be used with ladish, since we don't provide jack1dbus. AFAIK, there's a patch somewhere, but it's simply not necessary, jackd2 is just fine for that, so we leave jackd1 as is for the purists (no dependency on dbus and the like). IMHO, the paragraph about the no-self-connect patch can be removed entirely, since we already do the right thing(tm). ;) Cheers ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:52, Adrian Knoth a...@drcomp.erfurt.thur.de wrote: On 03/23/2012 02:38 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: [LADISH] We are still missing an explanation on the following sentence: Note that JACK needs to compile with a no-self-connect patch enabled in order to prevent clients self-connect/disconnect their own ports to ports of other JACK applications. The current jackd2 version available in Debian Wheezy fully supports ladish and also cooperates fine with it. What does this mean for jackd1? If it is enabled, is this worth mentioning? jackd1 can't be used with ladish, since we don't provide jack1dbus. AFAIK, there's a patch somewhere, but it's simply not necessary, jackd2 is just fine for that, so we leave jackd1 as is for the purists (no dependency on dbus and the like). IMHO, the paragraph about the no-self-connect patch can be removed entirely, since we already do the right thing(tm). ;) OK, I've replaced the paragraph with this: Note that ladish uses the D-Bus interface to the jack daemon. This means that jackd1 does not support it. The current jackd2 version available in Debian Wheezy fully supports ladish and also cooperates fine with it. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:15, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: I've been reviewing the Bits, and have a comment: The lash-ladish change is confusing. The part about a patch being needed is unnecessary IMO. It should be replaced by a statement of wether jackd1 and jackd2 support ladish (do they? I'd change it myself but I don't know if both do). I'll edit this thing a bit now (mostly cosmetic changes). BTW, given the current discussion on debian-devel (where people stated they still use d-m.o for codecs), we should send the message ASAP. I have added some additional bits regarding Libav/FFmpeg there. Who has time to finalize and send it out? -- regards, Reinhard ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:32, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:15, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: I've been reviewing the Bits, and have a comment: The lash-ladish change is confusing. The part about a patch being needed is unnecessary IMO. It should be replaced by a statement of wether jackd1 and jackd2 support ladish (do they? I'd change it myself but I don't know if both do). I'll edit this thing a bit now (mostly cosmetic changes). BTW, given the current discussion on debian-devel (where people stated they still use d-m.o for codecs), we should send the message ASAP. I have added some additional bits regarding Libav/FFmpeg there. Who has time to finalize and send it out? We are still missing an explanation on the following sentence: Note that JACK needs to compile with a no-self-connect patch enabled in order to prevent clients self-connect/disconnect their own ports to ports of other JACK applications. The current jackd2 version available in Debian Wheezy fully supports ladish and also cooperates fine with it. What does this mean for jackd1? If it is enabled, is this worth mentioning? -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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I've been reviewing the Bits, and have a comment: The lash-ladish change is confusing. The part about a patch being needed is unnecessary IMO. It should be replaced by a statement of wether jackd1 and jackd2 support ladish (do they? I'd change it myself but I don't know if both do). I'll edit this thing a bit now (mostly cosmetic changes). -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:15, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: I've been reviewing the Bits, and have a comment: The lash-ladish change is confusing. The part about a patch being needed is unnecessary IMO. It should be replaced by a statement of wether jackd1 and jackd2 support ladish (do they? I'd change it myself but I don't know if both do). I'll edit this thing a bit now (mostly cosmetic changes). BTW, given the current discussion on debian-devel (where people stated they still use d-m.o for codecs), we should send the message ASAP. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Am 23.02.2012 23:01, schrieb Benjamin Drung: Are VLC 2.0.0 and Audacity 2.0.0~rc4 (soon 2.0.0) worth mentioning? Sure! ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Bump :) Does anyone else feel that the part between Libav vs. FFmpeg needed clarification? -- regards, Reinhard ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Am 24.02.2012 09:56, schrieb Reinhard Tartler: Does anyone else feel that the part between Libav vs. FFmpeg needed clarification? Indeed, reads a bit too biased maybe. BTW, I have added a paragraph mentioning xvid and x264. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Am Freitag, den 24.02.2012, 09:44 +0100 schrieb Fabian Greffrath: Am 23.02.2012 23:01, schrieb Benjamin Drung: Are VLC 2.0.0 and Audacity 2.0.0~rc4 (soon 2.0.0) worth mentioning? Sure! Can someone with time do this (or ping me in two weeks)? -- Benjamin Drung Debian Ubuntu Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Am Montag, den 20.02.2012, 13:28 +0100 schrieb Alessio Treglia: Bump :) Are VLC 2.0.0 and Audacity 2.0.0~rc4 (soon 2.0.0) worth mentioning? -- Benjamin Drung Debian Ubuntu Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On 12-02-21 at 12:11am, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: New [ladish] packages are currently available in Debian unstable - and also in testing now. Should we adjust or perhaps better simplify to not mention explicitly migration status: Subject is planned for Wheezy which covers it. I've made some adjustments, please review. [LAME is...] in the main distribution, without having to resort to unofficial repositories. Seems unnecessary to mention unofficial repositories, as they are not the main distribution. Mmm.. no, I don't agree, I'd like to highlight the point: Happy news guys! LAME has joined Debian, hence as of now you don't need to rely on dmo anymore! :) Yeah, I read the message between the lines ;-) Problem is that saying you no longer need dmo in Wheezy implies you need dmo in Squeeze which is misleading. I believe that we currently deal with dmo by treating it as non-existent and just close bugreports infected by it. I'd prefer similar here. ...but as I wrote originally, it is a minor thing, so if important to you to keep it as-is, I'll rest my case :-) - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Problem is that saying you no longer need dmo in Wheezy implies you need dmo in Squeeze which is misleading. Good catch, so we should emphasize that LAME as well as other exciting stuff are provided by Squeeze backports. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Bump :) -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Bump :) Thanks for the reminder. We really should get this update out RSN. I've updated the mplayer2 parts now. I'm unsure if we should keep the lame entry, I guess most people have noticed that we have it by now. OTOH, I probably won't do harm either. the LV2 and ladish section leaves me these questions unanswered: - is jack1 expected to work with session handling? - What does the user need to do to use the new session handling code? - What are the bug numbers for the remaining work? HTH -- regards, Reinhard ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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Am 20.02.2012 13:51, schrieb Reinhard Tartler: I've updated the mplayer2 parts now. I'm unsure if we should keep the lame entry, I guess most people have noticed that we have it by now. OTOH, I probably won't do harm either. It won't harm, but could get extended to mention xvid and x264 as well. ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On 12-02-20 at 01:51pm, Reinhard Tartler wrote: - is jack1 expected to work with session handling? As I recall, that was exactly a major selling point for JACK2 as opposed to JACK1 when JACK2 was introduced, and I haven't heard of major changes to JACK1 since then. - What does the user need to do to use the new session handling code? According to [upstream guide] you start laditray and from there gladish and/or other parts directly. [upstream guide]: http://ladish.org/wiki/tutorial A few minor things I've noticed: BitsFrom says LV2 version whereas Policy/LV2 says version 3. New [ladish] packages are currently available in Debian unstable - and also in testing now. Should we adjust or perhaps better simplify to not mention explicitly migration status: Subject is planned for Wheezy which covers it. [LAME is...] in the main distribution, without having to resort to unofficial repositories. Seems unnecessary to mention unofficial repositories, as they are not the main distribution. How about a section on our team growing, perhaps explicitly mentioning major additions like Blender? I hesitate editing those things myself, as I feel not the most knowledgeable at any of the areas affected. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: the LV2 and ladish section leaves me these questions unanswered: - is jack1 expected to work with session handling? No, ladish needs jack2. - What does the user need to do to use the new session handling code? Simply: run jackd2 and rely on laditools to access to a whole set of options and nice GUI tools to handling sessions, connections and JACK parameters. - What are the bug numbers for the remaining work? AFAIK, there is no TODO list of remaining points. But maybe I miss something. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: A few minor things I've noticed: BitsFrom says LV2 version whereas Policy/LV2 says version 3. Squeeze supports LV2-rev3, Wheezy currently provides LV2-rev6, I've fixed that sub-page. New [ladish] packages are currently available in Debian unstable - and also in testing now. Should we adjust or perhaps better simplify to not mention explicitly migration status: Subject is planned for Wheezy which covers it. I've made some adjustments, please review. [LAME is...] in the main distribution, without having to resort to unofficial repositories. Seems unnecessary to mention unofficial repositories, as they are not the main distribution. Mmm.. no, I don't agree, I'd like to highlight the point: Happy news guys! LAME has joined Debian, hence as of now you don't need to rely on dmo anymore! :) How about a section on our team growing, perhaps explicitly mentioning major additions like Blender? Why not? ACK from me! -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2011/4/26 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: I've filled LV2 and ladish sections, reviewing is welcome! Looks good to me. What's happened with dh_lv2config? mira ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: Looks good to me. What's happened with dh_lv2config? Not needed anymore, installation of extensions and related links is handled by respective buildsystems. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2012/2/20 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: Bump :) I am not well oriented in video related packages,but what about gpac, transcode maybe others gmerlin? Are they worth to mention? They looks like crucial packages. mira ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: I am not well oriented in video related packages,but what about gpac, transcode maybe others gmerlin? Are they worth to mention? They looks like crucial packages. Of course they are! -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
2012/2/21 Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Jaromír Mikeš mira.mi...@gmail.com wrote: I am not well oriented in video related packages,but what about gpac, transcode maybe others gmerlin? Are they worth to mention? They looks like crucial packages. Of course they are! So I think this achievement should be mention! ;) mira ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Hi again, I've filled LV2 and ladish sections, reviewing is welcome! Cheers, -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0FEC 59A5 E18E E04F 6D40 593B 45D4 8C7C DCFC 3FD0 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 17:40, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Hi guys, I've cleaned up this [1] and I've inserted a first summary of the contents. Please, help me filling it :) [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom I've added a brief introduction. I think we do not need the Who are we? section anymore. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@debian.org wrote: I've added a brief introduction. I think we do not need the Who are we? section anymore. Sure, agreed. -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0FEC 59A5 E18E E04F 6D40 593B 45D4 8C7C DCFC 3FD0 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 18:15:11 (CEST), Felipe Sateler wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 17:40, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Hi guys, I've cleaned up this [1] and I've inserted a first summary of the contents. Please, help me filling it :) [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom I've added a brief introduction. I think we do not need the Who are we? section anymore. I've added some notes regarding the Libav and mplayer2 situation. We really need more news from the pro-audio experts. What is the news over there? -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
Re: Bits from the Debian Multimedia Team [RELOADED]
Hi guys, I've cleaned up this [1] and I've inserted a first summary of the contents. Please, help me filling it :) [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/BitsFrom -- Alessio Treglia | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0FEC 59A5 E18E E04F 6D40 593B 45D4 8C7C DCFC 3FD0 ___ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
