Fwd: [Qt-qml] Merging V8 into qtdeclarative.git#master
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: aaron.kenn...@nokia.com Date: Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:20 AM Subject: [Qt-qml] Merging V8 into qtdeclarative.git#master To: qt-...@qt.nokia.com Hi, Tomorrow we will merge the qtdeclarative.git#v8 branch into qtdeclarative.git#master. This change switches the JavaScript engine QML uses from JavaScript Core to V8 (http://code.google.com/p/v8/). In the past QML accessed the JavaScript engine indirectly through QtScript, but with V8 we integrated it directly against V8's native C++ API. Consequently, in addition to the raw JavaScript performance improvements we get for free, QML can leverage some of V8's unique features to give a better JavaScript experience. In a perfect world, other than their apps running slightly faster, QML users should notice no change. However, there are a couple of known regressions to be aware of: 1. Creator integration will probably not work as smoothly in the short term - at the very least the JavaScript debugging will not work. 2. Any QML API that relies on QML's undocumented ability to set and get QScriptValue properties will no longer work. 3. Any application that provides a QScriptValue based QML module API will no longer work. As module APIs are an unreleased feature anyway, hopefully this wont be a big problem. If you encounter any other breakage, it is probably a bug - so please report it! One goal in qt5 is to allow applications to expose their own JavaScript based APIs to QML. Right now, it is not clear whether this will be accomplished by porting all of QtScript to V8, or by exposing a new, smaller JavaScript API that just wraps V8. If anyone has any strong opinions on the matter, now would probably be a good opportunity to express them :) Cheers, Aaron ___ Qt-qml mailing list qt-...@qt.nokia.com http://lists.qt.nokia.com/mailman/listinfo/qt-qml -- --- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Removal of pastebin dataengine
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: as it was in addons, it's fine for it to be removed. Ah, great then. So just removed. Thanks! Cheers, ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review request: New share dataengine for plasma
Hello!! On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: does this mean we should be thinking about a move to kdebase with the other general interest dataengines? Today I finished doing all the fixes that were recommended and also tested all the backends. With today's commits I think that this dataengine is ready to be moved from kdereview to either kdeplasma-addons or kdebase (as the 2 weeks period in kdereview was also reached). So I'm just waiting Aaron's ok to actually move it (and also where it would be better to go, kdebase or kdeplasma-addons) and start porting the current pastebin applet to the new engine. After that I think it comes the GHNS integration step. Cheers and thanks for all the useful feedback and *much appreciated* help and review of the engine :) Artur ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: changing the changelog
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: i'd like to therefore request that all commits to plasma code in kdelibs, kdebase and kdeplasma-addons that represent a new feature or a bug fix include the appropriate keywords in the commit msg. kmail will filter them for me :) This will also help when we migrate to git: using git shortlog or git log --pretty=oneline it will be much easier to generate the Changelogs :). So, it's *really* important that we write nice first line message and then a nice commit message for each commit :) It will help the maintainer's life a lot :D Cheers, ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: changing the changelog
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM, John Layt johnl...@googlemail.com wrote: One of the things I really like about git is how easy it is to set up a commit message template that could include all the keywords as a memory aid +1. As soon as we move to git I can create such a template for us :) Not that it's hard, just that someone needs to step up and as I'm already talking too much on this thread I can do that :P Cheers, ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review request: New share dataengine for plasma
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: I think yes. While this engine has come out of the pastebin Plasmoid, I can imagine it being used in other places as well, basically as a share button for different media, making it easy to upload the file somewhere and place a link. (Makes sense for Microblog clients as twitpic function, but also for ksnapshot, in email clients, etc.. I think this is where this functionality should ultimately lead to. Am I right, Artur? :) You are right Sebastian, that's the goal. As this is the goal I'm really worried if the code that I did is good enough to support all these use cases and that's where I need the help of you guys to help me sort out any blockers on the current architecture :) Cheers! ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Review request: New share dataengine for plasma
Hello :) I would like to ask for some review on the new share dataengine for plasma (in kdeplasma-addons module). This dataengine is meant to replace the old pastebin dataengine that is very limited. The new one uses Kross to be able to load scripted providers that are basically interfaces to share services like imageshack, pastebin.com and others. The ability to be scriptable will allow integration with GHNS and enable the download of more providers what, right now, is impossible as it's not plugin based (which means that everytime there is an update in one of the APIs or one user requests support for a new provider he should wait for the next KDE release to have that =/ ). The idea is to provide common functionality to the providers and let the script define the URL of the service, the parse of the result and detect if that is an error as it's different from service to service. There is no plasmoid integrated with that yet (besides the very simple one that I used to test the dataengine) but as soon as it is approved I'll start to migrate the current pastebin plasmoid to the new dataengine. The new dataengine is also more useful in the sense that supports different mimetypes and because of that more plasmoids and applications will make use of that from my point of view. Thanks and best regards, Artur ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: definitions and package for plasma on meego
2010/7/14 Bjoern Ricks bjoern.ri...@intevation.de: Imho we should unify the package layout for all mobile platforms. I am not sure if that is possible with different packaging system but we should give it a try. Our packages for maemo are already installable and usable on the N900. But nobody did provide packages for plasma mobile yet. I am not familiar with rpm packaging yet but I would like to contribute for KDE PIM. +10 on this one. Let's try to use the same packages as most as possible (I know that different projects have different needs and this reflects in the way that kdelibs are compiled - platform profiles). But if we could use almost the same stuff, it would be *wonderful*. The infrastructure that Bjoern already provides is awesome. You just keep doing your job on trunk and the snapshots repository give you updated packages every day or so! :D Cheers! ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Thomas Fjellstrom tfjellst...@shaw.ca wrote: I see your point. But it seems like a bug that will pop up now and again, and it would be nice to have a list of all the plasmoids/widgets that are currently created so they can be removed, or re positioned if they ever get lost. If the bug pops up now and again, then there is something really wrong that should get fixed and not work arounded. I understand the I don't like it argument (besides not agreeing), but a bug that should never happen is not a pro argument for changing the add widgets dialog. Cheers, ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: definitions and package for plasma on meego
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: where is this? http://files.kolab.org/local/maemo/ Cheers, ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Markus Slopianka marku...@kdemail.net wrote: Oh, then offloading all useful info into tooltips is good? Is this how you definition of elegance? Constructive feedback is great, isn't it? It's awesome when every developer out there has the right(tm) solution in mind but are never here when things needs to get done. I would love to change positions and be the one to ignore all the work and research that was done before some work and just complain about it and say why I have the best idea ever. *sigh*. Back to technical: Yep, it's way more elegant than having an icon with an i that when clicked shows all the useful information. Specially that my mother doesn't need to figure out what the hell the i icon means (it could be something related to uninstall on my native language) and just hovers the mouse over what she wants to figure out what that plasmoid is without yet another mouse interaction. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Scrollbars in add widget ui
Hi Aurélien! 2010/7/11 Aurélien Gâteau aurelien.gat...@canonical.com: I have been playing a bit with the Add Widget UI on the plane back from Akademy and replaced the scroll buttons with a scrollbar. Attached patch is a first step at it, largely unfinished as I would like to know if you are interested in getting this integrated before I finish it. Scrollbars are good improvements. I'm just a little bit unsure that it may not work well with touch oriented interfaces (like the ones we tested plasma during Tokamak4). While scrollbars are great to give you an idea of position in the list, it doesn't work very well to actually scroll with the fingers. Cheers! ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: IRC meeting: point of what was done at akademy
Hello everybody! I hope all of you had a safe trip back home! And no lost passports ;P On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: if it's ok for other people would be perfect :) Just to be sure about the time: it's 9:00 UTC or 21:00 UTC ? Cheers, ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Info about Tokamak 4
Hi, On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Cornelius Schumacher schumac...@kde.org wrote: While collecting information about the developer sprints, which happended in the last twelve months, I noticed that the Tokamak 4 landing page at http://community.kde.org/KDE_e.V./Sprints/Tokamak4 still is incomplete. There is a more dot stories forthcoming notice and I don't see a link to the nice videos you recorded at the meeting. Could someone please update the page? AFAIK the videos were with Billie or Sebas but not sure. And definitely we need more dot stories. Maybe by the same time we launch the videos? Cheers, ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: bug target for 4.5
On Friday 07 May 2010, 07:30 Marco Martin wrote: - besides the raw bug count, each one of us should identify an area where the user experience is rather poor (even if working) and try improve that, things like bad layouting, widgets that exit from parents, missing icons, things like that. +1 :) From a marketing perspective (not that I'm an expert in this area but...) I can see a lot of people comparing 4.5 with 3.5 in terms of how stable and polished this release will be. It would be wonderful to get a little bit more of love in these two areas for the major problems so we get some good karma after the release :) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KDE Observatory moved to kdereview
On Wednesday 05 May 2010, 16:30 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Agreed, the fact that you forgot about the freeze is not an excuse at all to bypass the kdereview stage. Just to clear the subject a little bit: I think the didn't forget about the freeze and is not using it as an excuse if I understood correctly. He is just *asking* how to proceed. :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Pastebin widget
On Sunday 02 May 2010, 06:08 mar...@pola.org wrote: I am using the pastebin-widget on my desktop and I really like it. About a few months ago, the site pastebin.com got a totally new design and functionality. That means the widget does not work if you select pastebin.com as pastebin in the options. It would be nice if you could change so it'll be compatible with pastebin.com's new API. You can find it here: http://pastebin.com/api.php It's already fixed in trunk and should be fixed for 4.5. As Marco pointed out, for 4.6 we're reworking the engine and it will be easier to release this fixes and even extend with more providers. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Pastebin widget
On Monday 03 May 2010, 11:03 Emdek wrote: It will use scripting finally (would allow downloading new providers using hot new stuff etc.)? Exactly. ASAP I will commit the prototype to playground. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: javascript animations
Hi Aaron! On Wednesday 28 April 2010, 15:14 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: we now have themable animation support in libplasma. one of the things we've been dreaming of since the original Animator class was born has come true, though there have been a few twists and turns to get here such as Qt Kinetic appearing and using Javascript for the theming. That's great! :) I'll provide just a little bit of (not so useful) feedback because I'm running out of time for some tasks here, sorry for not being able to give a proper one :(. * a desktop theme can include one or more JS scripts in the animations/ subdirectory. each file can contain multiple animation definitions, each of which must be registered by calling registerAnimation(String name, Function func) in the script This seems a lot the way how you export QObjects to QML for example, so maybe this is a sign that it's a good approach (or that crazy people just took the same approach by accident :P). * fallback themes (aka theme inheritance) is supported for this Great! * scripted animation registration is first come, first serve so until the theme is changed, animations can not overwrite each other. this should keep things a sane (e.g. fallback themes won't overwrite existing anim defs) Makes sense your feedback is wanted since once 4.5 is out, we'll be stuck with the above. Do you have anything in mind for using QML in themes? As QML can also define animations, I was wondering how it would conflict/help with the JS Animations ? Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Reviewing Plasma themes
On Monday 12 April 2010, 12:57 Aleksey Alekseyev wrote: The primary problem with categories is there are quite a lot of them, and presenting a very long list in a horizontal strip is bad, because you have to scroll a lot (especially with how scrolling that list is handled in 4.4) and you can't scan it at a glance. Having so many categories and making it hard to explore and navigate the list of them defeats their purpose The list of widgets makes in its current form makes it hard to both explore the widgets you have and finding one particular widget you need at the moment. Exploring the widgets is inconvenient, because you have to mouse-over every one of them to read what they are doing. Finding a particular widget is hard, because the icons are not always self-explanatory (and sometimes several widgets share icons) and text with the name of the widget is in small font (and again, sometimes you need to re-check the description to be sure that this widget is the one you're looking for) and gets clipped for long names.. I don't see how the old widgets explorer was better in managing this issues...actually, in most of them it was worse. Just yesterday I spent several minutes looking for widget which helps me post images/texts to the internet. It wasn't in Internet and services category, its icon didn't catch my eye and scanning widgets by their names is not possible with current layout. Finally I started thinking Wait, how is the site I post text to is called... yes, pastebin!, then typed pastebin in the search box and finally found the widget I needed This is a problem with the pastebin plasmoid, and that will be fixed when the new one comes out. Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups
On Friday 09 April 2010, 17:57 Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez wrote: Well, maybe I'm an exception, but I don't follow the netbook users run a single application at a time. For instance, many times I have firefox, dolphin, konsole, amarok, gimp (yes, gimp, with a wacom tablet attached) running at the same time in a 10.2 netbook, with 1024x600 resolution and 2GB RAM. And it works well with Kubuntu Lucid beta. Yep, you're an exception :) You're a geek using a netbook. Average users doesn't have this many applications open at the same time, specially because netbooks are awesome for consuming content, but horrible for creating them. That doesn't mean that there aren't people out there (like you :) ) that can handle these tasks. For you I would just recommend the regular Plasma Desktop or that you tune Plasma Netbook. * I'd rather have a task manager which shows only icons for background apps and the title and maximize / restore buttons for the foreground app replacing the current activity switcher, which takes more than half of the available screen width. And I agree with Markus that the clock should be by default in the extreme right side. It's where users of all platforms expect to see a clock and a system tray. Also, in the current form, depending on the window title length, the clock position changes, and keeps jumping when switching applications. The clock point is a valid one that we must deal, but the task manager solution you're proposing just doesn't solve the main issue. That's why we are using Exposè for showing your tasks. Where your I mean the average user and not someone who has firefox, dolphin, konsole and gimp open (average users doesn't even want to know what konsole is. Average users are my mother, your grandmother, etc... not us ;) ). * About the single / double click: Search and Launch is there basically replacing the menu. It doesn't makes sense to make it honor the single / double click settings, which is supposed to be to navigate in files. In files, 1 click selects, 2 clicks open. In the SAL, 1 click does nothing. Having it honoring the setting is just like making Kickoff requiring double clicks to navigate in menus. This is the same complaint I have with system settings: if I choose double clicks to navigate in files, the system settings also requires double clicks. The icons are just shortcuts if you like the regular menu. The first rule of SAL is to be a nice way to use KRunner where Marco's mom doesn't need to know that the web browser calls firefox or arora but she can just type web browse and then it's offered to her a list of applications. And this 1 click does nothing is probably just a bug. Just 1 clicking any item on SAL activates it here. * About the texts in SAL: if someone which has never seen it is shown just a screenshot, like the first one presented in the article (http://kamikazow.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/plasma-netbook-mockup), he sees some icons on top, a search box, some other icons and widgets at the bottom. There is no obvious statement that: these are the favorites, here are the applications, and so on. On Kickoff, there's the Favorites and Applications tab. The ubuntu netbook remix has the sections on the left side. Having such an indication would be more intuitive. +1 here. We can find a way of making it easier to discover what which area of SAL is meant for. Perhaps, I'm thinking that having an intermediate solution, with just borderless maximized windows (which currently can be set via config file), that hacked task manager and a default kickoff menu would be perfect for netbooks... That's what your needs are :) Maybe that's what you should do because for your workflow this is just the better solution. What we are proposing with Plasma Netbook is a solution for average users of netbooks: moms, fathers, grandfathers, sons, etc... It's even interesting that geeks get/doesn't get something about the UI that this kind of users just accept and it works very well for them (just check the example of P man using the netbook interface in plasma-devel archive). Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups
On Friday 09 April 2010, 18:57 Markus wrote: Maybe I'm spoiled by my Mac experience, but I can't remember that Mac OS (X) was ever regarded as geek-only platform. On the contrary: Mac OS X is usually highly praised for its high usability up to a point where trolls call it a girl and gay platform, because it's so easy and real men use Windows. OSX too has the metaphor to minimize individual windows, hide the whole app and even the option to hide all non-focused apps. But they still dropped it for the iPhone and even for the iPad ;) Desktops and netbooks and mobiles are different beasts and that's the whole point, right ? Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Ideas/Mockups for Mobile System Tray (GSoC)
On Monday 05 April 2010, 20:51 Alexis Ménard wrote: I just wonder where do you want to put the tiny version of the taskbar? Also I don't like (me) when thing pops magically from somewhere so i think when the big one appears it should be animated from the the tiny version (or at least have a visual hint that you expand the tiny version). +1 on this. Organic interfaces also implies that something comes from some place :) In nature, there is no such thing as things appearing and going away from nowhere (besides a fairy ;) ) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Feedback wanted: Improvements to current Qt Widget/style mechanism
Hello! We had some talks about this during Tokamak3 (in Switzerland) and we collected the feedback, thought about some solutions and came up with this proposal. It's also important to say that we want to do everything related to this subject as open as possible and that's why we're including you since the beginning of the discussions :) So please, give us some feedback and help us improve the state of the art of Qt's widgets/styles. Hi, We are writing to get some feedback from you in the context of a proposal to improve current widget/style mechanism of Qt. We would like to ask you to read this and provide feedback, in particular by answering the last three questions. Keep in mind that all of this is work in progress, and even though we wrote some experimental code, there's nothing written in stone. == Reason == Developers that want to customize the UI and/or behavior of existing Qt widgets (QWidgets or QGraphicsWidgets) are not able to do that with QStyle, or don't want to, either because it uses an outdated procedural painting approach or because it is not flexible enough. As a result, many people writing rich UIs are writing their own widgets instead of using those available in Qt. However this process is time-consuming and leads to the creation of code that is duplicated and prone to bugs. The Qt Components project was born to provide a better solution for those willing to customize the look and feel of C++ widgets as well as to provide an easier way for Qt Quick developers to handle the boilerplate code of their UI. == Proposed solution == Our proposed solution has the two following parts: -- Models -- The first is a set of UI-independent models (back-ends) that will hold the boilerplate logic currently found inside the technology-specific widgets (QPushButton, QSlider, etc) What we want to solve here is the separation between what is: - look and feel: How does this button respond to a hover event? What is the click area of it? Is this slider shown as a bar or a twisting knob? - state and logic: The mouse went out and in the mouse area, is that a click? This button is inside a mutual exclusivity group, which button should I uncheck when this one is checked? The benefit is that Qt Quick designers can use this button backend to handle the developer-oriented logic and focus on what matters, UI. Also, if we have widgets implemented as QWidgets for instance, it becomes easy to implement their QGraphicsWidget or QDeclarativeItem counterparts, without duplicating the code. -- Style -- The second is a new styling mechanism that is flexible enough for rich UI applications to use and that fits the existing technologies as well as the upcoming ones. The main reason for creating a new style system in Qt is to use a primitive-graph approach over the existing procedural painting. That means the style will be responsible for hooking a group of primitives (image, text, rectangle) in the about-to-be-styled widget, rather than actually painting parts of it. That way we have more flexibility over how to style the widget, and it becomes easier for the canvas to automatically cache painted primitives. We came up with an architecture that uses the following concepts, that are somehow independent and that we would like to hear feedback about. a) Style::populate(Widget, Model = 0) method Style classes provide a populate method that is called by styleable widgets upon their construction. The arguments are the widget itself, it will be the parent of the primitives created by the style, and the optional model (backend) used by this widget. Example: When populating a Button the style creates two background primitives (one for pressed, one for released) and one text primitive for the button label. That probably looks fine, but raises a question, what would happen when the button label changes? How would the primitive be updated? The same holds for a button press, how would the background primitive know about that? We do not intend to create an updatePrimitives method or something that would require the widget state information to flow through the style. Neither we wanted the Button to assume/expect anything about the primitives it has. To keep that decoupled, we would rather use the data binding concept from Qt Quick. That means when the style populates the button for the first time it would create a binding between the label property exported by the button and the text property of the text primitive. For the background, it would bind the pressed property from the button model to the visible property of the pressed background primitive. Once again, the idea is to use a more designer-friendly concept and reduce the style API to a
Re: Mentoring
On Sunday 04 April 2010, 20:25 Zeke Connor wrote: Hello. I'm interested in helping out the Plasma team. I was wondering if anyone is willing to mentor me. IF there are any available to do so. Sure! Do you have any ideas ? Just send a proposal to this list and then we can help you :) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Dot article on activities needed, maybe more?
On Sunday 04 April 2010, 18:50 Marco Martin wrote: still need something on the plasma mobile one? just ask :) can refine text make screenshots, photos/videos of the one device i still have... Probably I can help Marco and Alexis with the mobile stuff too. We did a blog storm about plasma-mobile as soon as T4 finished explaining all the stuff. We had blogs about the high level stuff as well as the low level. But if you need more, just tell us :) Aaron, let me know if I can help anything too :) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Rewrite kinetic scrolling on ScrollWidget
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, 09:20 igorto wrote: Instead of change the ScrollWidget code you should have a look in plasma/private/kineticscroll.* because there is the old kinetic scroll implementation and it is used by others classes(like plasma/webview) and would be difficult maintain two different kinetic scrolling implementations. Some threads below you'll find the discussion that the ScrollWidget is the right place to have this code. Take a look at the other thread where Zack and Marco were discussing this subject :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Tokamak 4 photos
On Monday 08 March 2010, 15:57 Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: I will also make them available on flickr later on... Anyone else is interested? I'm interested in the high resolution ones! I can't miss any single detail about you guys, you know ;) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: feature plan
On Thursday 04 March 2010, 13:58 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: can everyone who wishes to please meet us in #plasma on irc at 16:00 UTC this saturday so we can go through our 4.5 plans? thanks, and see you there! I'll try but not sure how good will be the internet connection on the first day of a conference hehe. Anyway it would be good if someone could please save the log so the ones not present could know what happened :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Strange ampersand in Plasma tooltips
On Tuesday 02 March 2010, 08:10 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: Strange, AFAIK I have exactly the same configuration as you have, but don't see those ampersands here. I also can't remember ever having seen those before. To add more funny to the equation, I had an open bug for the pastebin applet where the user is complaining about almost the same issue but for the context menu (right click) on pastebin applet and plasma is restarted. I couldn't reproduce it here too... Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Strange ampersand in Plasma tooltips
On Tuesday 02 March 2010, 10:07 Marco Martin wrote: they should be gone now :) (both on trunk and 4.4 branch) For pastebin too ? :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Copy text to clipboard from javascript plasmoid
On Saturday 27 February 2010, 13:56 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: sounds like something that the pastebin plasmoid could also use :) Exactly! I definitely need to find some time to work on the sharebin stuff... Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: [GSoC 2010] Plasma Media Center Idea
On Thursday 25 February 2010, 12:23 Marco Martin wrote: sure!, we can either try to do a big one with 2 mentors or try 2 projects. anyways, add it to http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2010/Ideas ASAP :) I can help mentoring and having 2 projects sounds nice anyway :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Javascript Jam Session
On Thursday 04 February 2010, 22:06 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: below is a first draft of the text i'm working on for the announcement of a javascript plasmoid competition. supporting artwork is underway and some details (some prize specifics, judges, etc) are still being filled in. feedback is welcome and wanted. Great idea! I hope it makes the development of JS plasmoids more popular :) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: activities
On Friday 05 February 2010, 06:43 Marco Martin wrote: what i see as the real one is the nepomuk one, the plasma ones i see more as placeholders or visual representations of activities +1 in the end the more clear name it could have i think is just widget set +1 again hehe. though it's not a beautiful name :P -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Remote applets
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Shantanu Tushar Jha jhahon...@gmail.com wrote: backtrace at http://pastebin.com/m103e1a99 . Further, I don't know how to tell plasmoidviewer to load a remote applet. This should work: plasmoidviewer plasma://192.168.0.1:4000/Timer on mani-pc Cheers, -- --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Remote applets
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Shantanu Tushar Jha jhahon...@gmail.com wrote: backtrace at http://pastebin.com/m103e1a99 . Further, I don't know how to tell plasmoidviewer to load a remote applet. This should work: plasmoidviewer plasma://192.168.0.1:4000/Timer on mani-pc Cheers, -- --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
About pastebin applet
Hello all, I've been thinking about a nice way to improve the current pastebin applet and it's dataengine/service. So I'll share my ideas with you and you can say whatever comes to your mind :) First of all, pastebin started as a plasmoid to just post text on pastebin.ca service. Willing to allow more than one server and at the same time don't change it to much (what actually happened looking backwards) I went to a simple and not elegant solution but that actually solved the issue and Sebas even gave some love to the UI to look better. Imagebin support came easily after this. However, besides have been elected one of the top plasmoid by linux magazine it actually sucks in terms of architecture. Last tokamak while one compilation or another of KDE for the mysterious device(TM) I tried to create a dataengine/service from the plasmoid code to make it better and even allow other plasmoids to make use of the service itself. Currently, in order to expand it making it support more services (each user on Earth seems to have it's preferred service) is painful. Most of the imagebin services are duplicating the http POST code got from KIPI plugins source code and to enable more services we need to recompile the whole thing and the support comes out on next KDE release. Here comes the new idea: rewrite it to be based on plugins (easily achievable) and change it's name to something more user friendly like Share It! or something else. Motivation: based on simple plugins we can provide stuff like GHNS for new services making it easier to expand it, rewrite the plasmoid code to use the new QStateMachine as it's basically a state machine, fix the dataengine/service code to provide one function for http POST based services so the plugins doesn't need to actually duplicate code and even make it work on different to avoid bugs of people pasting too much content at once (there is this bug where the user posted by mistake(?) a 12MB file and it froze plasma). Another clear motivation is how user friendly Pastebin is ? It's more of a share tool and people that actually don't know what pastebin means looses a good chance/tool to share their stuff. It would even make sense to create plugins for flickr and picasa for example (maybe using the already present KIPI plugins for that). So, what do you think ? Pastebin turns into Share It! with a better architecture. /me waiting for the no's and don't's now :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: T4: Opening Day Presentations
Hey, On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Alexis Ménard men...@kde.org wrote: i'd love to give a small state of the art for plasma-mobile (at least for the n900 point of view) : QML, C++, Packaging, and the main issues we have to face for now. I will also come with some nice technical proof and concept to consider during the sprint. maybe we can do this together ? :) Cheers, -- --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: documenting javascript DataEgine and Runners
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: the sources are in kdebase/runtime/plasma/scriptengines/javascript/ in the javascripdataengine.cpp and javascriptrunner.cpp files. anyone interested? i'm happy to mentor/provide pointers in the right directions I'll try start writing it during my flight time on Friday but don't take this as granted, so if there is anybody still wanting to do it just go for it :) I can merge stuff later :) Cheers, -- --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: documenting javascript DataEgine and Runners
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: the sources are in kdebase/runtime/plasma/scriptengines/javascript/ in the javascripdataengine.cpp and javascriptrunner.cpp files. anyone interested? i'm happy to mentor/provide pointers in the right directions I'll try start writing it during my flight time on Friday but don't take this as granted, so if there is anybody still wanting to do it just go for it :) I can merge stuff later :) Cheers, -- --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Need a couple of volunteers (was: Re: TokamakIV update)
[...snippet ant top posting..] Sorry hehe :) I was away for the last week. Right now I'm in US for camp kde (arriving san diego tomorrow...) Yes, I plan to work with Alexis in Oslo and it's going to be wonderful to work during tokamak with the oxygen team ;) See you at camp kde! Cheers! On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote: On Wednesday 13 January 2010 23:39:33 Marco Martin wrote: last time i tried i was a bit lost on broken dependencies in the packaged qt themselves (hope it's fixed by now?) and mysql, that's a bit a brutal dependency in this context, but exterminating all the pim related stuff from the build doesn't seem pretty nice as well :) On the maemo side it's being worked on ATM. Right now the mysql issues are getting solved (if everything goes well fixes will get in the upstream qt- maemo) even though depending on mysql is a temporary measure to enable everyone to start working on those platforms. Regards. -- Kévin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net KDAB - proud patron of KDE, http://www.kdab.com ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: webkit scriptengine multiple plasmoids
I talked to simon about this and he said that the right place is webkit bug tracker even if it is a bug in the qt part. Cheers On 12/27/09, Petri Damstén petri.dams...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 22 December 2009 23:40:19 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On December 20, 2009, Petri Damstén wrote: On Friday 18 December 2009 00:17:19 Marco Martin wrote: On Thursday 17 December 2009, Petri Damstén wrote: Hi, I'm trying to fix this bug: http://www.kde- look.org/content/show.php/Scripted+Image?content=91749 (Error having 2 of them). Seems that if there is two (or more) same webkit plasmoids on desktop only one of them loads properly on plasma start. When same plasmoid B load is started before A load is finished javascript functions don't get called. This happens only when plasmoids are same e.g. two scripted-image plasmoids. I made attached patch to load plasmoids with the same plugin name in queue and it seems to solve this but I'm not sure if this right way to do it? Petri seems an hacky workaround, but i can'r really think about a possible real cause of this... could be a bug in webkit itself, maybe has some internal sigleton class that gets in an inconsistent state when two pages load the same url in the same moment? seems terribly unlikely but... I can reproduce this bug with a small Qt only app (http://aryhma.oy.cx/damu/webkit-test.tar.gz). It seems that if the same javascript file is included in multiple html files that are loaded at the same time then loadFinished signal is emitted too early. Should this have a workaround in webkit script engine until this is fixed in Qt/webkit? if it has been reported against Qt/Webkit, then yes, we can have a (documented) work around in the code that we can remove when Qt/Webkit is fixed. Noticed that if javascript is embedded in html it works, so this could have a work around also on those rare webkit applets that are run in multiple instances. Qt bug tracker seems to recommend webkit bug tracker for webkit bugs but this bug is related to qt/webkit signals (of course it still might be a webkit bug) so I'm not sure what would be the right place for the report. Petri -- Sent from my mobile device --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: bugfixing
Hey, On Thursday 10 December 2009, 06:11 Asraniel wrote: as some might have noticed i'm going trough the old plasma reports and close quite a lot. On the same time i assign the bugs to the right plasma component etc. Yeah, I saw this and *really* appreciate it! It's a difficult job and if everybody does this from time to time it would be easier for everyone (/me included of course hehe). So thanks a lot for this!! have a nice day and happy bugfixing We definitely now should be bugfixing and if we want a 4.5 release more polished, this is just the beginning :). I've been away due to work and some visitors at home but I should be back soon! Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Imgur support in Pastebin applet
On Saturday 05 December 2009, 07:25 Nikhil Marathe wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2324/#review3379 --- Trunk is feature frozen so this has to wait until 4.4 is released and we can work again on 4.5. Removing the white spaces from line 526, it seems fine. However, for 4.5 I would like to create a better config dialog for this applet and also make the code better. It seems that we deal with image servers the same way for almost all services, so maybe we can have a better code for this ? Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KDE Observatory: new UI strings ?
Hey Sandro! On Sunday 29 November 2009, 13:09 Sandro Andrade wrote: That would imply adding new translatable strings. Is this allowed at this time ? This isn't a must-have feature, it would be just to give user better information while applet is busy, so it can be posponed to next release. Yep, I think we are already in string freeze and people are not allowed to change/create strings anymore, so the translators can do their work. If you *really* need it, you can talk to them and ask for an exception but if it's not really necessary, let it for the next release... Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: About KDE/plasma on small devices
Well, Aaron was fast than me for some answers :P On Monday 23 November 2009, 14:48 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: it's close, but there will be things in it that just don't fit very well. fortunately, plasma encourages a highly modular design and so parts that do make sense can be shared between plasma-netbook and plasma-mobile without much effort at all. As aseigo said, it's close but at least my experience show that software designed for one hardware usually should not be on a different hardware :). That's why we have libplasma: to make it easy to write custom plasma shells. I really don't see the netbook shell as is on a phone. Some things will probably be used like some of it's concepts, some implementation (as Marco already pointed out) and other things, but we really need something for phones. yes; it could also be something more custom-fitted to a small screen, particularly when it comes to application transitions. see, for instance, what the palm pre or even the iphone does in this area. Yes, and also really finger friendly. i really think, given the size of the device, that an emphasis on full screen apps and switching easily between them with nice visual effects would be good. +1. when it comes to the n900 itself, they use an expose-like effect which would mean a different Plasma::View for each widget on the canvas. this is actually not uncommon (it's how popup applets work in the icon-and-dialog state, e.g. when in a panel in plasma-desktop). I'm still unsure about this. Talking about the n900 we have a lot of applications out there and probably we would need kwin to do this job. I think that when we solve the problem of virtual desktops vs activities for the desktop we might end up with a really nice idea for phones ;) i also wonder how much of the this is a phone, let's make a phone call interface could be put behind/inside a DataEngine/Service pair. Yeah, I've wondering if the phone dialer would be something desktop-shell related or yet another applicationbut the aspect of being a dataengine/service makes me think about being a plasmoid too :) I liked this idea :D if you ask questions, we can provide answers :) Exactly. There is even a list maemo related for kde developers. Join that and share your ideas with us so we don't duplicate effort on this ;) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Draft: Widgets Explorer Add Widgets
Hey! On Monday 23 November 2009, 15:39 Anselmo Lacerda S. de Melo wrote: WIP to make the close button work. A question: Should this button close only the widgets explorer (and show the panel settings again) or should it close both? Probably just widgets explorer as it may appear without the panel ? Just guessing. Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: About KDE/plasma on small devices
I am currently traveling so tomorrow I will answer this properly. I have some ideas for this project and also some experience from the netbook effort. Just hold on for one day as typing on this phone is horrible he he. Cheers. On 11/22/09, Andreas Marschke xxtj...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi , I've sent this request to the kde-devel mailing list before and would like to get back to it with you guys here as Aaron suggested on kde-devel. I've been tinkering about KDE on smaller devices such s the n900 Aaron luckily informed me about the playground project that is in place and will probably be out on 4.4 (the plasma keyboard as far as I'm aware). In my humble opinion the best suited for the job is the netbook shell.Things that are used on the mobile phone could be developed as a plsmoid which would then just be added to the newspaper containment. This would have the issue that you would get quite scared because most of the mobilephone apps would have to be placed there. Another , more userfriendly, approach could be to add containments/activities for sms/phonecalls/videos or what ever somebody would want to use there. These would then added dynamically as a new Activity you would switch them by providing the activities-switch-plasmoid in each activities panel. Unfortunately I am not fully aware about how easy/hard it is to do things like that. Other suggestions how to do this would be highly appreciated. So one of the things that would need to be inplace would be information for people who are not yet involved in the development. For now small wrap up on the mailing list would help to get first pointers upon from where to tackle all these issues. Cheers , Andreas Marschke. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel -- Sent from my mobile device --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: can qtscript plasmoids load C++ qtscript plugins
Hi Pekka, On Friday 13 November 2009, 04:32 Pekka Reijula wrote: Our idea allows creation of plasmoids that have qtscript inside to your own plama desktop environment. We can extend plasma in a way that allows user to write own script with for example Kate or download it from http url. The basic idea is that only text is read and script is evaluated. All that you need for this is the qtscript-bindings that for example amarok uses. Maybe I'm not getting what you meant: this is already possible. Plasma supports javascript/qtscript plasmoids. If you put them somewhere like kde-apps.org you will also be able to download them. So, what exactly is your point about enabling plasma to run script plasmoids ? So, maybe I just didn't get what you mean :) Can you explain a little bit more ? What this could offer, would be pretty much the same that the Qt-lively project offers in here: http://lively.cs.tut.fi/qt/videos.html All the widgets can be run also in our system. If you mean running qt lively scripts on plasma, then we have two options: if they are pure javascript or qtscript ones it should work out of the box of even just need some really small work. If they are special in any way, then we should just create a qt lively scriptengine and it will work perfectly (just like we did with google gadgets, edje and OSX). What do you deveopers think? Should plasma be able add these kind of widgets. Or should it be better to just create plasmoid that enables importing this kind of functionality inside. I could upload the plasmoid sources to kde, but I'm not yet a plasma developer. Well, it should be pretty easy to be a plasma/kde developer ;P. But anyway I think that we are closer than you think to support qt lively widgets on plasma. Maybe it already works with just a little amount of work. And as I'm on my creative Friday, maybe I can end the day making this thing work ;) But first I need to understand what I asked above and have access to this widgets. Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: can qtscript plasmoids load C++ qtscript plugins
Hey Richard! On Friday 13 November 2009, 07:44 Richard Dale wrote: The QtScript bindings based on the language indpendent Smoke libraries are going well, and I'm not far short of being able to wrap the Plasma apis. Just one question: when this is done, we'll be able to drop the bindings we currently have on kdebase/runtime/plasma/scriptengine/javascript/ ? And this bindings are just for KDE stuff or you plan to use them for Qt stuff too ? Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: pastebin plasmoid.
On Friday 30 October 2009, 08:59 goodha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Is it possible to tune plasmoid to return direct link to images? What do you mean by that ? The url to just the image ? Probably not as it would not be fair enough with the service provider as it survives with the ads it has on the webpage and visiting the webpage to see the picture helps them. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Plasma Netbook animated Version 1
On Thursday 29 October 2009, 18:23 Marco Martin wrote: there seems to be some issues with size hints, since the only way to have a proper hint is to have the final size the widget will have seems hard to fix, how do you guys did with the real qt ones? I need to take a look at our branch. But from what we remember we didn't support the change of size hints in an animated way (if this was your question :) Cheers, --- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- http://claimid.com/morpheuz Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: About releasing a new plasmoid
Sandro, On Wednesday 28 October 2009, 14:18 Sandro Andrade wrote: I'm finishing a new plasmoid for visualizing KDE community activities and I would like to know how to proceed for a release. Can I have it in kdeplasma-addons ? Am I in time for having it in KDE 4.4 ? If you need any help on this, just ping me on #kde-brasil. Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Mini Usability Testing Ideas?
On Monday 19 October 2009, 16:08 Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: I am looking for ideas of small tasks or processes we could test, such as the playlist editing task we did for Amarok. Any ideas are welcome! Maybe do some usability tests with the new Plasma's Add Widgets would be a nice idea ? Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Tokamak 4 dates
On Monday 05 October 2009, 07:44 Sebastian Kügler wrote: So, how about we start on Feb. 19th and the last people depart on the 26th? (That's Friday to Friday.) I'm so glad that you said those dates :) A friend of mine is marrying on the 6th of February and Carnival is on the 13rd-17thso 19th seems good! hehe :) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Different activities for each desktop KCM
Hey Marco! On Wednesday 30 September 2009, 19:08 Marco Martin wrote: i noticed in the kwin multiple desktops config there is a checkbox for enabling the different activities for each desktop thing in plasma, but it was a but uuh, fake. this patch enables it, using a new plasma dbus call done for that. Does it mean that we'll have two places to configure the same thing (one in ZUI and another as kcm) ? Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Fwd: Re: [kde-promo] Communication of the upcoming Kubuntu Netbook Edition release
On Wednesday 30 September 2009, 18:16 Chani wrote: it seems people like plasma-netbook already :) \o/ :) I hope after 4.6 release I have more time to help Marco and Aaron...and I soon as I have my presentation for Latinoware about netbook done I'll send to you...I'm planning some show off that includes n900 ;) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: QCA2 and Remote Widgets
On Saturday 19 September 2009, 09:23 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
It still doesn't build on my machine:
Please add proper checks for QCA.
I think that he already did that:
if(QCA2_FOUND)
include_directories(${QCA2_INCLUDE_DIR})
set(ENABLE_REMOTE_WIDGETS TRUE)
endif(QCA2_FOUND)
So, try a clean build please...
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Remote Widgets Warning Message
Hello! :) Some people pointed me that it would be nice to have a message indicating the problems of adding a remote widget from an untrusted host. Like a warning or something like that to warn users that remote widgets may harm their PCs.. What do you think about ? Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review request: Container plasma applet
On Sunday 20 September 2009, 14:10 Giulio Camuffo wrote: I know that that functionality belongs in a Containment, but since containments in containments are not supported i had to use an Applet. Hmmare you sure that containments inside containments are not supported ? =( Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: pervirtualdesktopviews=true does not work
On Thursday 17 September 2009, 05:07 WuYongbo wrote: pervirtualdesktopviews=true in ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc can not enable different desktops load different applets. any steps I missed? how can each desktops include diff applets? If you are using kde 4.3 you do not need to edit config files anymore. Just zoom out and you'll see a dialog to configure this. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: netbook irc meeting
On Thursday 17 September 2009, 12:52 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On September 17, 2009, Nuno Pinheiro wrote: just say the day and hour and i will be there :) same here... +1...Bonus points if it's not today because I'm in a meeting for the whole day.. =( I'll also talk about plasma-netbook on Latinoware and I have some ideas to show off our stuff :) (like remote widgets between desktop and the netbook...or even an n900 ? ;) ) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: netbook irc meeting
On Thursday 17 September 2009, 14:49 Marco Martin wrote: random proposal: sunday:17utc? (19 italy, 10 vancoucer, 14 recife) before? after? Seems good to me! Donuts for you for already calculating the right time in the different time zones :P Cheers! /me goes back to meeting -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Splitting openDesktop plasmoid into two parts
On Tuesday 15 September 2009, 11:10 Eckhart Wörner wrote: I'd like to split the openDesktop plasmoid into two parts: - the first plasmoid should contain the user details, the friends list and the nearby users list - the second plasmoid should contain the activity list (aka news feed) What would be the benefits of splitting them ? Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Nepomuk Virtual Folders as Background
On Monday 14 September 2009, 10:28 Sebastian Kügler wrote: This is something that would also be really cool for the picture frame applet. :) That's true! It would be awesome to have picture frame applets to show different nepomuk virtual folders! :) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Tokamak 3 - Photos
On Saturday 12 September 2009, 06:03 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: And someone upload the pictures on flickr for unfortunate people like me whose admins have blocked torrents. You can find mine in http://www.flickr.com/photos/morpheuz/ Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Tokamak III Wrap Up
On Monday 07 September 2009, 18:53 Mario Fux wrote: Greets from Zurich Mario Just to let you know that besides some problems, I just did bread today and it works (TM) :) Ah, and the popcorn hour is also working perfectly :)..Maybe this is the next mysterious device that we should put kde in ? ;) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Tokamak III Wrap Up
On Saturday 05 September 2009, 09:53 Sebastian Kügler wrote: - proof-reading by native speaker - fact-checks (who did what) - spell-checking andn correct attribution of names - what else did I forget? Just arrived in Brazil :) The trip was fine and I hope all of you also had a nice and safe trip. From my side everything is ok. Ivan already raised the problems I saw, other than that, great! Thank you everybody for the awesome sprint. And I really like and agree with what sebas said about the Plasma Family. That's how I felt during the sprint and this is awesome! Cheers!! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Some dates on Tokamak3
On Monday 24 August 2009, 18:43 Martin Gräßlin wrote: So i have to ask for something unimportant for all those people arriving by plane ;-) What's actually a good time to arrive on Friday? As I come by train I'm quite flexible. Nevertheless I could spend the night from Thursday to Friday in Olten at my sisters but would have to leave on Friday morning at about 9:00 so I would be at about 11:30 in Randa. Is that Ok, too early, too late? Maybe I'll arrive at the same time (me and annieC). We are in trouble as we have one hour to get the latest train on Thursday. If we can't get that we'll need to find a place to stay until Friday's 5:00 when it's the first train to Randa. :) Btw, when we arrive at Randa, how should we proceed ??? Ask someone for Mario's house ? ;) Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Some dates on Tokamak3
Hello Lukas, On Saturday 15 August 2009, 06:33 Lukas Appelhans wrote: Anyway, is the budget still open? My travel costs should be around 350€ I guess (if I calculated right). It's a 10 hour drive by train actually... The budget is already closed unfortunately :(. I don't think that we are able to ask more for the eV but Sebastian can correct me on this one. I'd need a coding computer as well, as I have no notebook :( This one would be hard to get as everybody else is bringing their own notebook. The only solution here would be if Mario had another computer and I'm not sure about this... Best regards, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Simplest Image Hosting support for pastebin applet
On Monday 10 August 2009, 03:41 Chani wrote: /trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/pastebin/backends/simplestimagehosting. cpp http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/1251/#comment1305 42 + 13? If I'm not wrong, this was taken from flickr upload plugin on kipi_plugins. -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Simplest Image Hosting support for pastebin applet
On Monday 10 August 2009, 14:00 Michal Dutkiewicz wrote: By the way, I could try to rewrite this applet from scratch and add for example support for error messages (SIH returns different error messages for example), that could be passed as signal parameter. Actually rewriting it to support more features is probably not the best way to go (I've been there once hehe). The correct way should be to separate this and use the plasma infrastructure (dataengines/services) to have the backends. Because every time a new pastebin/imagebin server shows up with a new feature and then we have to update this thing. Also, the way it is now makes it hard to extend. So, if you want to rewrite, let's start by separating the backend's code from the frontend. And then this time we can make it work properly :) What do you think ? Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: [PATCH] Adds posting private picture to imagebin.ca from the pastebin plasmoid
On Saturday 08 August 2009, 13:40 Patrick Aljord wrote:
This is my first patch, it just adds posting private picture to
imagebin.ca from the pastebin plasmoid as the title says, it needs to
be applied from kdeplasma-addons, hope it works for you.
Thanks for the patch! As Chani asked, can you provide a screenshot of the
config
dialog ?
Some comments on code:
Index: applets/pastebin/backends/imagebinca.h
===
--- applets/pastebin/backends/imagebinca.h (revision 1008583)
+++ applets/pastebin/backends/imagebinca.h (working copy)
@@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ public:
void finish();
bool addPair(const QString name, const QString value);
bool addFile(const QString name,const QString path);
+QString adult;
It seems that you do not need to store this string in the object and can
declare it when you setup this string, something like this:
QString adult;
+if(m_privacy == 0){
+ adult = f;
+} else {
+ adult = t;
+}
one thing I don't get is how you managed to use a string (0) as the default
value for an int ;)
+QString m_privacy;
m_privacy seems to be a QString :)
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Re: [PATCH] Adds posting private picture to imagebin.ca from the pastebin plasmoid
On Saturday 08 August 2009, 16:35 Chani wrote: oh. but we also have this: int imagebinPrivacy = uiServersOptions.imagebinPrivacy-currentIndex(); so, either make it always an int, or make it an enum. don't use a string. especially a string that just contains a number anyways... +1 for always int -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: plasma article wanted
On Wednesday 05 August 2009, 08:41 Sebastian Kügler wrote: I've been asked by a publisher if I knew someone who would want to write an article about Plasmoid development. As I won't find the time to do it myself, maybe someone else is in for it? German or English writing is fine. Maybe it's a good idea to write about ECMA script plasmoids and scripted plasmoids ? so we can attract people from apple world and also show the benefits of it for those who doesn't know c++ ? Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: tokamak planning
On Saturday 01 August 2009, 15:34 Ilya M. Cassina wrote: As Tokamak3 will take place at some 3 hours by train from where I live (Neuchatel) I thought: Hey! I could 'sneak' in, meet people, look how they work and maybe ask someone to explain me shortly the big picture behind plasma! [...snip...] You're more than welcome to come in and meet us. Any kind of help is appreciated and maybe after this meeting you'll be able to contribute back do KDE in may different forms: food, translations, marketing and code ;) Cheers and looking forward meeting you there! Cheres, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: tokamak planning
On Thursday 30 July 2009, 16:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: ...[snip]... Seems great to me. p.s. first home automated using plasma == awesome ;) Pictures + Detailsplz !? :) -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Plasmate Status
On Monday 27 July 2009, 04:31 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote: Note that up to now you have to manually setup the working directory by modifying line 165 in mainwindow.cpp, because that global variable isn't set yet ( actually the projects directories are saved in $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/plasmate which is not a good choice imo, if we want to focus on beginner developers... what about a $HOME/PlasMate_Projects folder instead? ) Now I'm focusing on building a default enviroment based on the project/language selected, so I'll fix also that pending issue =) Usually this config paths are given by you, so you don't have to hardcode them ;) Check this class and method: KStandardDirs::locateLocal (it's also used on startpage.cpp). This way, Plasmate will use whatever path is set for kde applications to store stuff. Cheers! -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2
On Monday 27 July 2009, 12:20 Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: The KDE e.V. board is happy to provide funding for Tokamak 3 up to 6344EUR for travel and accommodation for 14 people. This is an adjustment to the final number you sent us minus 1890 EUR because we do not fund food. I would like to thank everybody in the board for this help, and say that for sure we're going to do a great use of this money. Thank you very much. Now, we can cover transportation and lodging for everybody and we can probably pay for our own food (maybe give Mario the money so he can buy the food if there are no restaurants and we need to cook by our own?) What do you think ? -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2
On Monday 27 July 2009, 15:31 Mario Fux wrote: I planed to provide a buffet with marmale, honey, flakes, bread, fruits and co in the morning. Something warm for dinner (different stuff from Raclette, Pasta, Soup to regional specialities...) and some meat, cheese, bread and co in the evening with the rests of the day or a soup. What do you think ;-)? Sounds great for me. Important to not forget the vegetarians :). Now a big question: which airport is the best to arrive ? Zurich or Geneva ? (due to trains, etc..) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: containing plasmoid crashes
On Sunday 26 July 2009, 16:24 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: the real solution is to use scripting languages and make sure the c++ plugins are absolutely solid. +1 here. It's the sanest (does this word exist in english :) ?) way to do this stuff. Cheers :) -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2
On Thursday 23 July 2009, 15:42 Ivan Čukić wrote: Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa: anaceciliamb at gmail.com Just came to my mind that she'll also need an invitation letter. I don't need as I have double citizenship and I come as an italian. But it's better for brazilians to have invitation letters when coming to europe. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2
On Friday 24 July 2009, 04:45 Mario Fux wrote: BTW, we should add to the wiki the info about our reserved flight Do we already have the ok from the e.V. ? And to summarize: is it better to arrive at Geneva or Zurich airport ? (number of trains, hour of the trains, etc..) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2
On Friday 24 July 2009, 10:42 Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: Did your budget include train tickets or just air fare? A lot of people are just going by train (~5 or 6 people). This results in ~9 people that will need train tickets, right Mario ? According to https://www.sbb.ch, a journey between Zurich -- Randa (Return trip) == 212 Swiss francs == 140 euros. Now, the math (I'm excluding /me and Ana from this math because if you can afford for our air tickets, I'll find some money for our train tickets): Train tickets = 7 * 140 = 980 EUR New Summary: === - Air tickets + Train tickets = ~6200 EUR - Food (9 days * 14 people * 15 EUR) = ~1890 EUR - Additional Apartment (9 days * 4 people * 4 EUR) = ~144 EUR *TOTAL* = ~8234 EUR Cheers, :) -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: 4.4 call for runners (ideas)
On Thursday 23 July 2009, 06:45 Jacopo De Simoi wrote: I've also the following (random) ideas: I would love to have an assistant runner where I just type the name of the Qt class and it gives me back assistant on the exact page I need :) (even for kde docs). Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3)
On Thursday 23 July 2009, 06:46 Mario Fux wrote: And don't forget the train tickets. As I don't know yet who comes by plane or just by train I can't predict this value. Probably we (me and Ana) will have to get the train from Zurich to Randa but we do not need sponsorship for this. We can work it out. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3) - part 2
On Thursday 23 July 2009, 12:04 Mario Fux wrote: What is Ana's email address? For a...@ktown.kde.org I get a failure. And are you, Ana, subscribed to this list? Yes, she is subscribed to this list and the correct email is: anaceciliamb AT gmail DOT com :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3)
Hi Celeste! On Wednesday 22 July 2009, 12:28 Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: Looks like a good proposal; however, we have some questions before we can make a decision. We would like to see 1 or 2 new people attend this meeting. From the list on techbase, everyone looks familiar. Do you have any new people you have invited or plan to invite who may not be on the list? Fresh blood is one of the things we to see for funded Developer Sprints. That's true and it's awesome that you remembered about this :). We have GSoC students like Diego and Ana that have never been to a developer sprint before. Ana was in Akademy and Diego couldn't go to Akademy and it's probably worth it checking with him about his availability for Tokamak (I'm ccing him). Diego, are there any chances that it would be possible for you to attend Tokamak ? It would also be great to have Ana there as she is mentored by Ivan who is coming too. The problem with bringing brazilians is that it tends to be expensive and that includes me too. But it would be awesome to have her working on her project with her mentor during Tokamak (the same apply for Diego as he's working on Plasmate and his mentors - me and Ricardo - will be there too). From what I've heard about Ana, as she is a student, there is no way for her to pay any amount of the air tickets, so we would need 100% sponsorship for her if she is available. Unfortunately, I also can't afford more than 20% of the price of the ticket and that increases a little bit the cost of the whole thing (making some head-math I would say that from 3015 EUR we would go to ~ 4115 EUR just for air tickets to have both students there). What do you think Celeste ? Cheers! PS: I'm ccing the students to know if they're available on the dates. -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Prospective costs of the 3rd Plasma meeting (Tokamak3)
On Wednesday 22 July 2009, 14:23 Celeste Lyn Paul wrote: So to be clear, it would be ~1200 EUR (~600EUR/person) more to get more people? Ok, let's do this the proper way and using Mario's data hehe :) + 100 EUR + 120 EUR + 955 EUR + 100 EUR (we forgot this one on the last table) + 1000 EUR + 140 EUR + 350 EUR + 100 EUR + 250 EUR + 1000 EUR (Ana: based on my cost) + 150 EUR (Diego: based on other italian guys) == 4265 EUR in Total In total ~4115 EUR travel So, ~ yes :) ~1890 EUR lodging (9 days * 14 people * 15 EUR) Yep. ~6005 EUR total for 14 people to attend tokamak ^ is this correct? That's correct. I'm just afraid that we didn't include Aaron Seigo's travel costs as it's written PENDING in the table and I have no clue how much it would be that (and of course we can't forget him hehe :) ). -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Tokamak 3 - Last bits
Hello everybody :) Tokamak 3 is right around the corner and we still need to finish some bits like: - Everybody that plans to go have to fill the information on techbase asap: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Tokamak3 - Price of the train tickets; - People that needs a VISA (Just Ivan?); This is important so we can estimate the costs for e.V. and to help Mario organizing all the stuff. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Tokamak 3 - The organization begins
On Thursday 16 July 2009, 09:06 Rob Scheepmaker wrote: I'd also like some confirmation that it's 'safe' to buy plane tickets for tokamak 3. Will there be reimbursement like Tokamak 2 and are the dates really final? Yeah, I think that most of us are waiting for a confirmation like this. Unfortunately (for us hehe) aseigo has a lot of TODO's as he's moving. But probably the dates are really final. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Plasmate status
On Wednesday 15 July 2009, 04:11 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: option 1: Use a KMenu when the previewer is small, and an Overlay when the previewer's size is sufficient. I would go with option 1. We really want to have a Plasma lookfeel ;) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Plasmate status
Hello :) On Monday 13 July 2009, 13:48 Diego Casella ([Po]lentino) wrote: By the way, do we *really* need the sidebar ? Each item can be found in the final release of plasmate under the menubar, so I was wondering if we can replace it with something more useful like a directory tree list ... Hmmm...remember that we are trying to do this for non-core-developers...what means that it can't look too much developer..it must be beautiful and attractiveI really don't know the impact of having menu entries for all the stuff that is in the sidebar. Maybe making the sidebar something smaller, at the top (like a toolbar)let's hear aseigo's opinion about this :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/pastebin
On Friday 10 July 2009, 23:52 Travis wrote: They prefer you to use the api which returns a small amount of plaintext where you just need to take the final line and that's your URL. I've done this for the Konversation tinyurl shell script found here: http://lxr.kde.org/source/extragear/network/konversation/data/scripts/tinyu rl Thanks for your feedback. I was not able to find their api before. I'll fix this asap ;). That was the idea of CCing the mailing list ;) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: bof?
On Thursday 09 July 2009, 08:45 Chani wrote: as some people will be going out to see the island this afternoon, and others aren't willing to come to the uni (it's less hot today! really!), what do you guys think about meeting at fataga tomorrow for a hacking session? plasma, kwin, whatever... let's get some stuff done :) That would be great :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Newbie to plasmoids
On Thursday 09 July 2009, 12:27 Charles Abela wrote: One last thing. Being a newbie to kde it is quite hard at times to find structured, centrally located, information about library file structures, widgets, tools etc. I personally appreciate the kde techbase site however something more from this point of view might be very useful. You can also check http://api.kde.org for some more documentation. Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Review Request: Improving KRunner to list applications and bookmarks
On Wednesday 08 July 2009, 15:01 Aaron Seigo wrote: Ship it! I updated with your comments and committed it :) Thanks for the review! Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: bof?
On 7/9/09, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: Well ... depending on where it is. I'll not be going to the university, as many (most) people will be at the daytrip anyway (I won't). I have a meeting scheduled at Fataga at ten, and will be hacking then at the same place for the rest of the day with Rich. Maybe just meet here (Fataga) then? Im not going to the university as well because it was way too hot to work there today. Im going to sleep a little bit more and will hack with you guys at the hotel. Chani and Marco: is it possible to have the bof here at the hotel? do we have time to ask the kwin team about this change ? Cheers, -- --- Artur Duque de Souza OpenBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia --- Blog: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net --- ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: bof?
On Sunday 05 July 2009, 06:10 Martin Gräßlin wrote: Friday? Yes I have a problem with that as I will be back in Germany on friday As we have the whole week, maybe it's a good idea to bring this earlier ? :) Cheers, -- Artur Duque de Souza openBossa Research Labs INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia -- Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.net -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
