Re: [PLUG] What does this message mean?

[Marvin Kosmal]

What are the permissions and owner on file, program


On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Dick Steffens 
wrote:

> On 01/16/2017 01:31 PM, t...@wescottdesign.com wrote:
> > I tell it "download now" and it grinds away for a while, then pops up
> > the same message.
> >
> > Maybe it's a permissions thing (oh joy).
>
> I've had the same experience, but eventually, on another invocation of
> the process, as much as a few days later, it finally works. At least, I
> think it works. At any rate, it stops complaining.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Coffee mug

[Marvin Kosmal]

Cute

Thanks

Marvin


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Tim Wescott  wrote:

> I know this is outside of what the list is for -- but it's
> entertaining.  Just smack me if I'm going too far, and I'll remember.
>  The ad is interactive; you have to mouse over the mug for maximum
> effect.
>
> https://www.gearbubble.com/changcoffeez
>
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Re: [PLUG] RIP Paul Nelson

[Marvin Kosmal]

I found Paul, Eric, and the Clinic to be the best of the best.

Marvin


On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Michael Rasmussen 
wrote:

> On 2017-01-03 14:56, Michael Dexter wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have just heard about the passing of Paul Nelson, long-time PLUG
> > member and Clinic organizer.
> >
> > :(
>
> Massive ow.
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Re: [PLUG] Shipping a monitor

[Marvin Kosmal]

I took my monitor down to Home Depot and they packed it for me.. For free..
What a place.



On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Dick Steffens 
wrote:

> On 11/27/2016 10:58 AM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > I have an ASUS VE228H which I need to ship back under warranty.  I am
> > looking for a shipping box, preferably one made for a 21.5" monitor.  I
> > have asked at two retail stores; theirs were all compacted by the time I
> > got there.  I will continue to ask at stores, but I thought there might
> be
> > someone here who has saved and no longer needs the shipping container
> > theirs came in.  The RMA expires December 20th, so I have a little time
> to
> > get the shipping done.
>
> U-Haul and Home Depot have many different boxes, some meant for shipping
> TVs. Those are too big for your 21.5" monitor, but you might be able to
> use a medium or large box. The proportions won't be right, but you can
> put the monitor in diagonally. Home Depot also has foam blocks designed
> for the corners of TVs. They will work for a smaller monitor.
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Re: [PLUG] Learning Linux Sys Admin & Linux/Open Source tools

[Marvin Kosmal]

A huge part of the picture is that a Sr. Level Sys Admin doesn't need help..


Sr. Level Sys Admin is what you work your position into..

My Experience.

Marvin


On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Mike C.  wrote:

> >
> > Louis - Thank you for your reply.
>
>
> Your responses compel me to be a bit more clear about some things.
>
> "10) at some point, you will have to get into networking"
>
> -- I've over 10 yrs of work experience as a Network Engineer, in which I've
> worked with Unix on Network Management platforms and I've used Linux
> Networking tools for network troubleshooting. I've even built Linux test
> boxes and run LAN / WAN networks through those text boxes to do network
> traffic analysis.
>
> I'm doing a lot of what you said, but learning scripting languages even as
> a former Comp. Sci. major is kind of dry and uninteresting when there's not
> a problem to solve or project deadline to meet. Not too event mention that
> there are drums waiting to be played, bikes waiting to be ridden and
> Network Engineer jobs a plenty.
>
> I guess what I'm having difficulty with is that to me there doesn't seem to
> be a clear and well defined development path.
>
> For example, when I got into Network Engineering. I started out by taking
> the TCP/IP exam of the MCSE than I self-studied for Cisco Certified Network
> Administrator and got my first job as a Network Engineer without any
> hands-on real world experience.
>
> >From there, I was able have access to training, lab time, certifications
> and projects that took me from a rank novice to a seasoned veteran in just
> a few short years.
>
> So what I've experienced over the years is a floundering at Jr. Linux Sys
> Admin level as there's only so much I've been able to do on my own and
> there doesn't seem to be many job opportunities for a Jr. Linux Sys Admin
> to work under a Sr. Level Sys Admin and get good hands-on experience and
> mentoring.
>
> I realize it's my own personal struggle and everyone has walked their own
> path to Linux Sys Admin greatness. The path seems a lot lot harder for to
> my find than for a Network Engineer. The trail heads aren't very well
> marked and the trails not very well mapped out.
>
> Cheers,
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[PLUG] Make SU active

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I am running linux mint 17.  Have forgotten how to make su active.

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

Jason

I live in La Center, Wa..

That might be hard..

Maybe next week?

Thanks

Marvin


On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Jason Bergstrom <ber...@bergie.net> wrote:

> I'm in Hillsdale, but would likely have to make other arrangements,
> as this Saturday/Sunday I'm tied up until early afternoon.
> I may be able to drop off in the evenings, if I know where to head.
>
> Jason,
> ber...@bergie.net
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:35:41PM -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> > Jason
> >
> > How do
> >
> > *I get one?*
> >
> >
> > *Marvin*
> >
> > *Where are you?   I am at Farmers Markets both Sat and Sunday*
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Jason Bergstrom <ber...@bergie.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, do let me know.
> > >
> > > They will head towards Free Geek at some point next year, as
> > > I have bad last mile, and cannot make use of the copper for transit.
> > >
> > > Two are the older Actiontec GT701, the newer one is an Actiontec
> > > C1000A. Any/all are up for grabs.
> > >
> > > Jason,
> > > ber...@bergie.net
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:25:24PM -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > If John can't find his.  I would gladly take one off your hands.
> > > >
> > > > Marvin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Jason Bergstrom <ber...@bergie.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I know I've got 3 of them that I can now part with.
> > > > > Otherwise, they do show up at most of the Goodwill stores as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason,
> > > > > ber...@bergie.net
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:34:35PM -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where is a good place to get a DSL modem..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have TDS and have their DSL modem in house.   I have another
> > > building I
> > > > > > am running a phone line to.  I thought it might just be easier
> if I
> > > > > bought
> > > > > > my own DSL modem for that installation.?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

John..


I am The Dancing Chicken Farm at PSU Farmers Market...  Drop it off and I
will see what I can do..

Thanks



On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:07 PM, John Meissen  wrote:

> Sorry for the late reply.
>
> No. I have quite an assortment (8.5V, 9V, 12V, AC, DC,...) but I didn't
> find
> this one. It takes 10.5V AC. :-(
>
> If you want it anyway, let me know. I was going to head into the general
> direction of the city tomorrow around noon, I could stop by PSU.
>
> john-
>
> > John
> >
> > Did you ever find the brick?
> >
> > Marvin
> >
> >
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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi


John.  I would love to have the Westell 6100

Of course each DSL Router will have it's own IP address..  What I will do
is only run one at a time.  Shut off the one I am not  using and turn on
the other.   That should work?

I am slow at times.

Marvin


On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 3:48 PM, King Beowulf <kingbeow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/16/2015 02:34 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Where is a good place to get a DSL modem..
> >
> > I have TDS and have their DSL modem in house.   I have another building I
> > am running a phone line to.  I thought it might just be easier if I
> bought
> > my own DSL modem for that installation.?
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marvin
>
> It depends.  Is the other building next to the house?  You can run a
> phone line to it but you won't need a DSL modem for voice calls.  DSL
> modems are for internet and you typically just have one per internet
> account. If this is the case (building is adjacent to house), I would
> just run a phone line (voice) and cat5 or 6 cable from the modem/router
> for internet.
>
> -Ed
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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

All

I have to run now

Back about 10:30

Marvin


On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Marvin Kosmal <mkos...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John
>
> I will be at the PSU Farmers Market tomorrow..
>
> Can you go there?
>
> Marvin
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:17 PM, John Meissen <j...@meissen.org> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > John.  I would love to have the Westell 6100
>> >
>> > Of course each DSL Router will have it's own IP address..  What I will
>> do
>> > is only run one at a time.  Shut off the one I am not  using and turn on
>> > the other.   That should work?
>>
>> I honestly don't know.
>>
>> I'm in Beaverton. Whereabouts are you? I'll probably be out running
>> errands at
>> some point tomorrow, if you're not too far out of the way I could swing
>> by and
>> drop it off.
>>
>> I'll look for the power brick tonight.
>>
>> john-
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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

John

Did you ever find the brick?

Marvin


On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:17 PM, John Meissen  wrote:

> >
> > John.  I would love to have the Westell 6100
> >
> > Of course each DSL Router will have it's own IP address..  What I will do
> > is only run one at a time.  Shut off the one I am not  using and turn on
> > the other.   That should work?
>
> I honestly don't know.
>
> I'm in Beaverton. Whereabouts are you? I'll probably be out running
> errands at
> some point tomorrow, if you're not too far out of the way I could swing by
> and
> drop it off.
>
> I'll look for the power brick tonight.
>
> john-
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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

Jason

How do

*I get one?*


*Marvin*

*Where are you?   I am at Farmers Markets both Sat and Sunday*

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Jason Bergstrom <ber...@bergie.net> wrote:

> Yes, do let me know.
>
> They will head towards Free Geek at some point next year, as
> I have bad last mile, and cannot make use of the copper for transit.
>
> Two are the older Actiontec GT701, the newer one is an Actiontec
> C1000A. Any/all are up for grabs.
>
> Jason,
> ber...@bergie.net
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:25:24PM -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> > Jason
> >
> > If John can't find his.  I would gladly take one off your hands.
> >
> > Marvin
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Jason Bergstrom <ber...@bergie.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I know I've got 3 of them that I can now part with.
> > > Otherwise, they do show up at most of the Goodwill stores as well.
> > >
> > > Jason,
> > > ber...@bergie.net
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:34:35PM -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Where is a good place to get a DSL modem..
> > > >
> > > > I have TDS and have their DSL modem in house.   I have another
> building I
> > > > am running a phone line to.  I thought it might just be easier if I
> > > bought
> > > > my own DSL modem for that installation.?
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

John

I will be at the PSU Farmers Market tomorrow..

Can you go there?

Marvin


On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:17 PM, John Meissen  wrote:

> >
> > John.  I would love to have the Westell 6100
> >
> > Of course each DSL Router will have it's own IP address..  What I will do
> > is only run one at a time.  Shut off the one I am not  using and turn on
> > the other.   That should work?
>
> I honestly don't know.
>
> I'm in Beaverton. Whereabouts are you? I'll probably be out running
> errands at
> some point tomorrow, if you're not too far out of the way I could swing by
> and
> drop it off.
>
> I'll look for the power brick tonight.
>
> john-
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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

Jason

If John can't find his.  I would gladly take one off your hands.

Marvin


On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Jason Bergstrom <ber...@bergie.net> wrote:

> I know I've got 3 of them that I can now part with.
> Otherwise, they do show up at most of the Goodwill stores as well.
>
> Jason,
> ber...@bergie.net
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:34:35PM -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Where is a good place to get a DSL modem..
> >
> > I have TDS and have their DSL modem in house.   I have another building I
> > am running a phone line to.  I thought it might just be easier if I
> bought
> > my own DSL modem for that installation.?
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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[PLUG] OT: Debian

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

This is off topic.

Just installed Debian 7.7

Does anyone know how to switch desktops?

TIA

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[PLUG] Scientific Linux 7

[Marvin Kosmal]

HI

Installed Scientific Linux 7 yesterday..

No Networking.

dmesg does not mention eth? anything.

What can I do to help myself?

TIA

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[PLUG] Linux Mint

[Marvin Kosmal]

HI

Question for Linux Mint 17 users..

I get a different list of packages for apt-get then I do for update
Manager???

Also will mint install new kernels?

TIA

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[PLUG] OT: Gimp

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi...

Just got new version of Gimp   2.8..

It will not let me scale a picture and save in JPG format.

Must save in xcf and face book will not load that format.

Am I the only one with this problem?

I am running Linux Mint 17

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] OT: Gimp

[Marvin Kosmal]

Ken

Thanks.

That worked perfect.

I didn't use to have to do that.


Marvin


On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Ken Stephens k...@cad2cam.com wrote:

 Marvin Kosmal wrote:
  Hi...
 
  Just got new version of Gimp   2.8..
 
  It will not let me scale a picture and save in JPG format.
 
  Must save in xcf and face book will not load that format.
 
  Am I the only one with this problem?
 
  I am running Linux Mint 17
 
  TIA
 
  Marvin
 
 Marvin,

 You need to export the picture to save it in JPG format.

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[PLUG] CDROM

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

Trying to determine what equipment I have..

This is from dmesg..

[2.452185] ata4.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NS50, XP00, max UDMA/100
[2.477460] scsi 3:0:0:0: CD-ROMHL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NS50
XP00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[2.487363] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2
cdda tray


Is there another place to look or is this it?

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] CDROM

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I didn't realize that GH was the part number..

I just wanted to make sure I can read the Slackware install disks.  I am
ordering Slack and install...

Thanks..

I am hoping this does not top post...

Marvin



On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Bill Barry b...@billbarry.org wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  Trying to determine what equipment I have..
 
  This is from dmesg..
 
  [2.452185] ata4.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NS50, XP00, max
 UDMA/100
  [2.477460] scsi 3:0:0:0: CD-ROMHL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NS50
  XP00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
  [2.487363] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw
 xa/form2
  cdda tray
 
 
  Is there another place to look or is this it?
 
  TIA
 
  Marvin

 That is enough information for a google search. What else are you
 trying to find out?
 http://www.lg.com/hk_en/optical-storage/lg-GH24NS50

 Bill


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[PLUG] Slackwar

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I was thinking of installing  Slack.Was running Ubuntu but, last
upgrade it said my hardware support needed upgrade and then it didn't boot.

I am running an old version of Ubuntu on another drive.

Does Slack have a net install?

TIA

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[PLUG] OT: Cheap Windows laptop

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

Off topic..

I need to get a nice/cheap Windows laptop for a relative.  Can't get them
to run Linux.

Anyone have a good idea where I can find one?

Thanks

Sorry for poor subject matter.

Marvin
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Re: [PLUG] computer purchase advice

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I use Ubuntu, 12.04,  to stream my netflix.   Not a problem..

I have a Belkin wireless router and a Samsung Blu-Ray player.

Never a problem

Marvin


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Randy Stapilus stapi...@ridenbaugh.comwrote:

 Two or three questions, depending on how you count.

 The last windows computer in our mostly-Linux household has crashed and
 apparently died. Does not pass POST, does not collect anything -
 motherboard is probably dead. This computer was used specifically for the
 entertainment center, to stream audio/video to our tv (which mainly has
 functioned as a monitor) and stereo.

 Main reason we had windows on that one was Netflix, which I long heard did
 not mesh with Linux. In the last year I've been reading about Netflix video
 playing capability on Linux (as at

 http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/
 );
 in the experience of people here who have tried it, does it work well?

 I'd like to set up the new entertainment-dedicated computer (just
 streaming, no games or such) as a Linux machine, sufficient for the task
 but keeping an eye on cost. So: Any recommendations on where (in the
 PDX-Salem area) to best look for such a beast? I know this sort of question
 comes up periodically, but it's probably good to revisit it occasionally.
 I'd be ok with installing the OS (probably Ubuntu) myself, but does anyone
 have any cautionary notes about what to keep alert for, in addition to
 Linux-friendy wireless cards?

 Advice would be most welcome.


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Re: [PLUG] Printer---Solved

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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.comwrote:

 On Tue, 24 Sep 2013, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

  The only printing I do is Black and White small text files.

 Marvin,

Black and white laser printers are quite inexpensive. I bought a
 Brothers
 on sale at Office Depot for $50 a few years ago (and since sold it). Watch
 the office supply stores (or amazon.com) and you can replace the inkjet
 with
 an inexpensive, single-purpose laser printer most of which are supported by
 CUPS.

 Rich




Printer problem solved.

Bought genuine HP cartridges and works fine.  as suggested

Thanks to everyone who spoke up..

I am considering Laser..

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Printer

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Richard..

The only printing I do is Black and White small text files.

Powell and 17th is a long Haul for me.  I live in La Center.

I am scared to buy off Craigslist.   Too much bad luck with electronics
from  that list.

Thanks

Marvin


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 On Mon, 23 Sep 2013, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

  And next time I buy.  It will be lasar.

 Marvin

I don't know how much color printing you do, nor what type (plots and
 diagrams vs. digital camera images) but these two factors should guide your
 choice of printer. When you're ready to start looking try craigslist and go
 visit The Printer Place on Powell Blvd. about SE 17th Ave.

The latter have used printers and can advise you on brands and models.
 Very good folks there. I bought my color HP LaserJet on craigslist for only
 $50 (and a trip to Washougal and back). Turns out it needed a new drum
 which
 The Printer Place diagnosed and fixed for $130 so I have the equivalent of
 a
 like-new printer for a reasonable cost, and I'm still on the set of
 cartridges that came with it. When I need new ones I'll go to Cartridge
 World; I've been using their toner cartridges for my LJ 5 for years with no
 problems at all.

 Happy printing,

 Rich

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[PLUG] Printer

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I am having printer problems.

Printer was out of ink..

Replaced cartridge.

Printer did not print.

Replaced bad cartridge  Printer complained empty cartridge and wouldn't
print.

Put in anther new cartridge.

Printer won't print..

Model  HP OfficeJet 4620..  Had been working fine.

I use second source ink cartridges.

Any ideas on what I am overlooking?

I rebooted the printer..

The ink level indicator says it is full of  ink..

The test page prints the color things at the top but no text.

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] Printer

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HI

I will go buy HP Ink Cartridges tomorrow..

And next time I buy.  It will be lasar.

Thanks

Marvin



On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:15 PM, King Beowulf kingbeow...@gmail.com wrote:

 All HP inkjets have the print head in the cartridge. I've never been a fan
 of 3rd party cartridges - fine if they work but not worth the overall
 hassle. If you get nothing out of the cartridge then it's either bad or you
 have a bad electrical connection (e g not snapped in all the way).

 Get a proper HP cartridge to test!

 Rich, I agree, laser is the way to go for bang for yer buck and
 reliability. Toners last longer than ink cartridges. I just use inkjet on
 photopaper since the  colors are a bit better.

 -Ed

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 23, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
 wrote:

  On Mon, 23 Sep 2013, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 
  I am having printer problems.
  Printer was out of ink..
  Replaced cartridge.
  Printer did not print.
  Replaced bad cartridge  Printer complained empty cartridge and wouldn't
  print.
  Put in anther new cartridge.
  Printer won't print..
 
  Marvin,
 
Does this printer use a separate print head? If so, it might be clogged
  and needs to be replaced. Otherwise, there might be an issue with non-HP
  cartridge or load. Cartridge World might be able to advise you.
 
I gave up my inkjet printer and use only laserjets (one monochrome, one
  color).
 
  Rich
 
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Re: [PLUG] Back to School Linux Clinic Sunday September 15 1pm

[Marvin Kosmal]

All

I thought it was good humour!

Marvin





On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Russell Johnson r...@dimstar.net wrote:


 On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@gate.kl-ic.com wrote:

  If not from their teacher,
  from using their new software and network skills to correct
  grading mistakes in the school's poorly-secured database.

 You do realize, Keith, that this appears to be condoning a class C felony
 in the state of Oregon*?

 I understand the intent, but there are others that won't, and I'd hate to
 perpetuate the idea that linux users are criminals.

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Re: [PLUG] Conferences, Powerpoint, and freedom - Status and Apology

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On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@gate.kl-ic.comwrote:

 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:04:12AM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
  I am scheduled to speak at the IEEE Sustainable Technologies
  Conference at the Lloyd Center Doubletree on Thursday morning
  August 1, next week.  This morning, the conference chair sent
  out an email saying that all presentations must be Powerpoint,

 And the chair, seeing my plight, has worked with me to relax the
 constraints.  I must make sure that I don't screw up the tight
 transition to the next powerpoint presentation, but the session
 chair and I are working out alternatives.

 I may be able to run my webslides from the conference laptop,
 assuming that version of Firefox (or Internet Explorer) is
 configured to run javascript, flash animations, and local files.

 A better alternative is me bringing my own projector, putting
 it on a platform above the conference projector, and show slides
 using my own laptop and cabling, while shuttering the light output
 from the conference projector with a black box surrounding the
 lens.  I will bring a libreoffice generated PPT, one slide,
 full screen black, for the conference projector.

 Hopefully, this will allow the next presenter to set up their
 slides and start presenting the moment I finish with Q/A .

 I am still looking for help with the setup, just in case something
 glitches the windoze machine or projector.  I'm trying to contact
 the AV contractor for the conference, perhaps I can pay one of
 their people to hang around and fix unexpected problems.

 We still need to smash the Powerpoint monopoly, and replace bullet
 point list slides with more humane and effective presentations.
 But that is a long term problem to solve separately from the
 environmental problems we will address at the conference this week.

 I apologise to the conference and the chair for making protest
 threats and to this list for my rant.

 Keith



What rant?

You are GOOD to GO!!

Marvin





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Re: [PLUG] fstab question

[Marvin Kosmal]

Thanks

Marvin



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Ken Stephens k...@cad2cam.com wrote:

 Marvin Kosmal wrote:
  Ken
 
  Good answer..
 
  I have always been terrible at those links..
 
  How do I do that?
 
  Marvin
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Ken Stephens k...@cad2cam.com wrote:
 
  Marvin Kosmal wrote:
  Hi
 
  My home partition is running out of room..
 
  I am a home2 and that seems work and mount on boot..
 
  I change home2 and home.   Computer wouldn't boot..
 
  What did I do wrong
 
  Here is my fstab.
 
  proc/proc   procnodev,noexec,nosuid 0   0
  # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation
  UUID=ba7d065f-acbe-45d8-9e20-31a968791acb /   ext4
  errors=remount-ro 0   1
  # /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation
  UUID=c2fde081-f707-49b8-945a-74385579e34e /boot   ext4
  defaults0   2
  # /home was on /dev/sda6 during installation
  UUID=cc988f90-e695-4e20-9838-83e93fd5ecff /home   ext4
  defaults0   2
  # swap was on /dev/sda10 during installation
  UUID=168dd5fa-5a3a-47bc-af49-506dcdccc311 noneswap
  sw  0   0
  # swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation
  UUID=c671c15f-a227-4060-91fd-1b1c5eda48d1 noneswap
  sw  0   0
  #  added uuid for /home2
  UUID=25e823d6-8b55-4c61-ad28-2e58afc46d44 /home2  ext4
  defaults
  0  2
 
 
  Old home is like 2 gig  new home2 is 25 gig..
 
  TIA
 
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  Marvin,
 
  Why don't you put it back to the original configuration.  Boot the
  system.  Then move the diretories under home to home2.  Create links
  from /home to the /home2 directories.
 
  original:
  /home/user1
  /home/user2
  . . .
  New:
 
  ls -hal /home
  lrwxrwxrwx user1 user1 12 May 13 9:14 user1-/home2/user1
  lrwxrwxrwx user2 user2 12 May 13 9:15 user2-/home2/user2
 
  Easy as pie.
 
  Ken
 
 
 Marvin,

 After moving all the files from /home to /home2.

  From /home issue:
 ln -s /home2/* .
 This will create links for each directory in /home to /home2.

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Re: [PLUG] fstab question

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John

Did you see my original post.  I tried that  and had some crazy problem.
Wouldn't let me log in..

Marvin





On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:00 AM, John Sechrest sechr...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is going to painfull in the long run.

 Better to moint the /home2 partition as /home and avoid that link pain
 On May 15, 2013 7:53 AM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks
 
  Marvin
 
 
 
  On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Ken Stephens k...@cad2cam.com wrote:
 
   Marvin Kosmal wrote:
Ken
   
Good answer..
   
I have always been terrible at those links..
   
How do I do that?
   
Marvin
   
   
   
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Ken Stephens k...@cad2cam.com
  wrote:
   
Marvin Kosmal wrote:
Hi
   
My home partition is running out of room..
   
I am a home2 and that seems work and mount on boot..
   
I change home2 and home.   Computer wouldn't boot..
   
What did I do wrong
   
Here is my fstab.
   
proc/proc   procnodev,noexec,nosuid 0
   0
# / was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=ba7d065f-acbe-45d8-9e20-31a968791acb /   ext4
errors=remount-ro 0   1
# /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=c2fde081-f707-49b8-945a-74385579e34e /boot   ext4
defaults0   2
# /home was on /dev/sda6 during installation
UUID=cc988f90-e695-4e20-9838-83e93fd5ecff /home   ext4
defaults0   2
# swap was on /dev/sda10 during installation
UUID=168dd5fa-5a3a-47bc-af49-506dcdccc311 noneswap
sw  0   0
# swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation
UUID=c671c15f-a227-4060-91fd-1b1c5eda48d1 noneswap
sw  0   0
#  added uuid for /home2
UUID=25e823d6-8b55-4c61-ad28-2e58afc46d44 /home2  ext4
defaults
0  2
   
   
Old home is like 2 gig  new home2 is 25 gig..
   
TIA
   
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Marvin,
   
Why don't you put it back to the original configuration.  Boot the
system.  Then move the diretories under home to home2.  Create links
from /home to the /home2 directories.
   
original:
/home/user1
/home/user2
. . .
New:
   
ls -hal /home
lrwxrwxrwx user1 user1 12 May 13 9:14 user1-/home2/user1
lrwxrwxrwx user2 user2 12 May 13 9:15 user2-/home2/user2
   
Easy as pie.
   
Ken
   
   
   Marvin,
  
   After moving all the files from /home to /home2.
  
From /home issue:
   ln -s /home2/* .
   This will create links for each directory in /home to /home2.
  
   Ken
  
  
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[PLUG] fstab question

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

My home partition is running out of room..

I am a home2 and that seems work and mount on boot..

I change home2 and home.   Computer wouldn't boot..

What did I do wrong

Here is my fstab.

proc/proc   procnodev,noexec,nosuid 0   0
# / was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=ba7d065f-acbe-45d8-9e20-31a968791acb /   ext4
errors=remount-ro 0   1
# /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=c2fde081-f707-49b8-945a-74385579e34e /boot   ext4
defaults0   2
# /home was on /dev/sda6 during installation
UUID=cc988f90-e695-4e20-9838-83e93fd5ecff /home   ext4
defaults0   2
# swap was on /dev/sda10 during installation
UUID=168dd5fa-5a3a-47bc-af49-506dcdccc311 noneswap
sw  0   0
# swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation
UUID=c671c15f-a227-4060-91fd-1b1c5eda48d1 noneswap
sw  0   0
#  added uuid for /home2
UUID=25e823d6-8b55-4c61-ad28-2e58afc46d44 /home2  ext4  defaults
  0  2


Old home is like 2 gig  new home2 is 25 gig..

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] fstab question

[Marvin Kosmal]

Ken

Good answer..

I have always been terrible at those links..

How do I do that?

Marvin



On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Ken Stephens k...@cad2cam.com wrote:

 Marvin Kosmal wrote:
  Hi
 
  My home partition is running out of room..
 
  I am a home2 and that seems work and mount on boot..
 
  I change home2 and home.   Computer wouldn't boot..
 
  What did I do wrong
 
  Here is my fstab.
 
  proc/proc   procnodev,noexec,nosuid 0   0
  # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation
  UUID=ba7d065f-acbe-45d8-9e20-31a968791acb /   ext4
  errors=remount-ro 0   1
  # /boot was on /dev/sda1 during installation
  UUID=c2fde081-f707-49b8-945a-74385579e34e /boot   ext4
  defaults0   2
  # /home was on /dev/sda6 during installation
  UUID=cc988f90-e695-4e20-9838-83e93fd5ecff /home   ext4
  defaults0   2
  # swap was on /dev/sda10 during installation
  UUID=168dd5fa-5a3a-47bc-af49-506dcdccc311 noneswap
  sw  0   0
  # swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation
  UUID=c671c15f-a227-4060-91fd-1b1c5eda48d1 noneswap
  sw  0   0
  #  added uuid for /home2
  UUID=25e823d6-8b55-4c61-ad28-2e58afc46d44 /home2  ext4  defaults
 0  2
 
 
  Old home is like 2 gig  new home2 is 25 gig..
 
  TIA
 
  Marvin
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 Why don't you put it back to the original configuration.  Boot the
 system.  Then move the diretories under home to home2.  Create links
 from /home to the /home2 directories.

 original:
 /home/user1
 /home/user2
 . . .
 New:

 ls -hal /home
 lrwxrwxrwx user1 user1 12 May 13 9:14 user1-/home2/user1
 lrwxrwxrwx user2 user2 12 May 13 9:15 user2-/home2/user2

 Easy as pie.

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[PLUG] Edit PFD

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I think I asked this before and can't remember the answer..

I need to edit a  PDF document.  What application can I use.

I am running Ubuntu 12.04

TIA

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[PLUG] Windows Question

[Marvin Kosmal]

HI

I know this isn't the Windows support group.

But, someone may know the answer..

Once a year, for the past 5  years, I fire  up an old computer with Win 2K
on it and run TaxAct.  It is a wonderful free program that runs on
Windows..  Have been using it for 5  years.  I can't find a free Federal
Tax Program on Linux..

Anyway..

This year I had to buy a new printer..  And the new printer does not work
with Win 2K...

So I tried to copy the file to a flash/thumb drive.  Every time I do that
the computer reboots..  Will not copy the file...

TaxAct claims it is not their fault..  No funny stuff on the file or
program.

Also, the program will NOT save the program anywhere but the original
location...


Now this may sound crazy to you.. I agree  I need a hard copy of my tax
return..

Haven't tried to send it to myself... Maybe that will work..

Or if anyone has any idea I would be grateful..

I fell really bad having to admin I use Win 2K for tax...

Is there a good Linux tax program I should use NEXT year?

TIA

Marvin
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[PLUG] Deny Hosts

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Hi

Is anyone running denyhosts?

I had to reinstall and now I can't get it to work.

It does say it is running but, not working.

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] Deny Hosts

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On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:50 PM, King Beowulf kingbeow...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 03/08/2013 08:12 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 Hi

 Is anyone running denyhosts?

 I had to reinstall and now I can't get it to work.

 It does say it is running but, not working.

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 which has its own security issues.  Besides, you still have to
 properly set up ssh correctly.  Once that's done, why not take the
 extra step and set up /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny manually?
 Then use iptables to drop ssh attacks - as in DROP and REJECT. That
 way, the attacker gets no info on your server, and you don't have to
 fill up your logs.

 Also, denyhosts, fail2ban, sshguard all depend on generating a simple
 IP blacklist and properly configured logging (/var or other partition
 can get full).  Attackers can also spoof their packet's source header.

 China bangs on my game server constantly, in addition to the various
 script kiddies.  I very much doubt they will get in.  Better to block
 everything and only let certain host and user ssh keys in.

 Just my 2 cents.

 Ed


Thanks for the comeback...

I am only a user on the system I installed denyhost so I am limited on
what I can do..

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Hit ME

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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Jonas Palmero jonas.palm...@gmail.com wrote:
 What a curious name, I looked for it and found:
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/hardy/dog


Thank YOU

And Welcome

Marvin



 By the way, I'm new here and I'm hopefully not breaking too many
 conventions.

 I moved from France almost two years ago and would love to meet you all!


 Jonas


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 Hi

 Someone hit me with the clue stick...

 I can't find dog source code or package

 Dog better then cat.

 Thanks

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[PLUG] Hit ME

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Hi

Someone hit me with the clue stick...

I can't find dog source code or package

Dog better then cat.

Thanks

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[PLUG] Speakers make noise

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

New problem..

My speakers are making a 60 cycle snow noise.

Started yesterday..  Tried adjusting volume. No help.

As a last extreme measure I shut the computer off and powered down the speakers.

This morning I turned the speakers on the they were quite until I
turned the computer on.. Then the noise started again..

So I am thinking..  Capacitor failure on Mother Board or Power supple

Would that be a logical conclusion?

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Re: [PLUG] Speakers make noise

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Galen Seitz gal...@seitzassoc.com wrote:
 On 03/01/13 06:59, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 Hi

 New problem..

 My speakers are making a 60 cycle snow noise.

 snow noise?  What do you mean?


How about white noice??  NOT 60 cycle hum...


 Started yesterday..  Tried adjusting volume. No help.

 As a last extreme measure I shut the computer off and powered down the 
 speakers.

 This morning I turned the speakers on the they were quite until I
 turned the computer on.. Then the noise started again..

 So I am thinking..  Capacitor failure on Mother Board or Power supple

 Would that be a logical conclusion?

 Possibly.  I would first try driving the speakers from another device,
 preferably battery powered, like a portable music player or radio.  You
 might also want to try using headphones with your computer.

I will look around and see if I have another device to drive speakers
and look are headphones..

Thanks




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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Aaron Burt aa...@bavariati.org wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 04:16:49PM -0800, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 I need to back the web site up to my home computer while the web guy
 does maintenance on the web box.

 I don't know how to configure the TDS box to accept ssh so I can get 
 through..

 You don't have to.  SCP works both ways, as does rsync.
 What program are you using to upload web content?
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Hi

Thanks

SCP does work both ways.  I was asleep at the wheel..

Problem solved..

Thanks again

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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Ryan Rogerson ryanr.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13-02-27 05:34 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:58 PM, King Beowulf kingbeow...@gmail.com wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 02/27/2013 04:16 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 Hi Everyone

 I have forgotten everything I should know.

 I have a TDS Actionted GT701 D asdl modem..

 I have a web site that I ssh into

 I need to back the web site up to my home computer while the web
 guy does maintenance on the web box.

 I don't know how to configure the TDS box to accept ssh so I can
 get through..

 Or a good place to start...

 I set the admin name and password on the TSD box.


 TIA

 Marvin
 Why not use FTP client or rsync from your home PC?  ssh is a bit round
 about to just transfer data (log into remote box then log BACK into
 home box).

 The GT701 will allow outgoing connections such as FTP.

 There are a number of FTP clients.  I use gFTP and FireFTP (Firefox
 add on) to transfer data to my web sites.

 - -Ed
 Hi..

 Don't know much about rsync.  But, I can probably install an FTP
 server and do ftp.  Will check out both..

 TIA

 Marvin

 Why not both?  SSH provides a simple and secure entry method.  rsync is
 a great backup tool and it can use the ssh protocol.  No need for a
 full-blown FTP tool.

 In order to use ssh through your router you need to configure your
 firewall to allow communication through port 22 (or another port of your
 choosing).  A non-standard port is often chosen for security reasons.

 You configure your receiver's ssh service to listen on the port you
 chose and set up a log-in method.  You can use a simple
 username/password configuration or go with a public/private key login
 system.

 Links like this show how to setup password-less ssh on the destination
 system:
 http://www.adminschoice.com/how-to-configure-ssh-without-password

 Once you get your ssh access configured you simply issue a command like:

 rsync -avh (src path) -e ssh -p (port number) username@(ip
 address):~/(dest path)


 ~Ryan




OK

I can use ssh and scp from my computer to the web server..

I can't ssh into the web server and then  ssh into my home box from
the web server.


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[PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi Everyone

I have forgotten everything I should know.

I have a TDS Actionted GT701 D asdl modem..

I have a web site that I ssh into

I need to back the web site up to my home computer while the web guy
does maintenance on the web box.

I don't know how to configure the TDS box to accept ssh so I can get through..

Or a good place to start...

I set the admin name and password on the TSD box.


TIA

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Re: [PLUG] DSL modem

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:58 PM, King Beowulf kingbeow...@gmail.com wrote:
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 On 02/27/2013 04:16 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 Hi Everyone

 I have forgotten everything I should know.

 I have a TDS Actionted GT701 D asdl modem..

 I have a web site that I ssh into

 I need to back the web site up to my home computer while the web
 guy does maintenance on the web box.

 I don't know how to configure the TDS box to accept ssh so I can
 get through..

 Or a good place to start...

 I set the admin name and password on the TSD box.


 TIA

 Marvin

 Why not use FTP client or rsync from your home PC?  ssh is a bit round
 about to just transfer data (log into remote box then log BACK into
 home box).

 The GT701 will allow outgoing connections such as FTP.

 There are a number of FTP clients.  I use gFTP and FireFTP (Firefox
 add on) to transfer data to my web sites.

 - -Ed

Hi..

Don't know much about rsync.  But, I can probably install an FTP
server and do ftp.  Will check out both..

TIA

Marvin



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Re: [PLUG] Can one add an OS on a second drive to GRUB

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote:
 In my new machine I have a disk with both XP and 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04.
 I have a second disk with 32 bit Ubuntu 12.04. So far I have swapped
 cables when I wanted to do something with the 32 bit version. Is it
 possible to have both drives plugged in at the same time and have GRUB
 give me the option of which of the three OS's to boot?

 If it matters, these are both SATA drives.

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 Regards,

 Dick Steffens




Hi

I have linux on two different drives.

I go into bios on power on and move the drive to the top of the order.
 So now it boots from sdc or swap the order and it boots from sdd..

It would be easier to put both in grub.

YMMV

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Screen Freeze

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I have had the same problem.  About once every two weeks.

Total freeze.

Nothing works.

Have to hit the reset button..

No pattern that I can see.

Just upgraded to a new kernel.. Will see if that helps..

YMMV

Marvin


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Chaz Sliger c...@bctonline.com wrote:
 Anybody experience occasional screen freezes?
 The only way I've been able to get the system to respond again is to hit
 the interrupt button.
 Not sure whether it stops listening to the keyboard/mouse or freezes the
 output image.
 Is it possible this is a motherboard problem?
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Re: [PLUG] Disk usage {Solved}

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi All

Just used blkid at the command line.

Edited /etc/fstab..

Rebooted and life is good..

Thanks for all the reply’s.  This list is the best.

I am using Ubuntu 12.4

Marvin


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Fred James fredj...@fredjame.cnc.net wrote:
 Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 Hi

 I have fallen behind in my disk usage  knowledge..

 So something has happen and I don't quite know how to fix it.

 My initial problem was that /home was running out of room..

 So I created a new directory /home2 and created a new partition on my
 terabyte drive.   Formatted the partition.  Added an entry in
 /etc/fstab.  I used the old technology.  Used /dev/sdd5  instead of
 the uuid #.  Which I don't know how to determine.

 Anyway.  I did an update and needed to reboot the computer..

 On rebooting..  All the drives are renamed.  /dev/sda is now /dev/sdc
 and all kinds of stuff..

 Luckily the system still works.  Don't know why..

 How do I find out the uuid # on the partition I just created so I can
 make the right entry in /etc/fstab?

 TIA

 Marvin
 Marvin Kosmal
 Do you have a GUI tool?  What distro and version?
 In the absents of a GUI have you looked at fdisk and the like?
 Regards
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[PLUG] Disk usage

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I have fallen behind in my disk usage  knowledge..

So something has happen and I don't quite know how to fix it.

My initial problem was that /home was running out of room..

So I created a new directory /home2 and created a new partition on my
terabyte drive.   Formatted the partition.  Added an entry in
/etc/fstab.  I used the old technology.  Used /dev/sdd5  instead of
the uuid #.  Which I don't know how to determine.

Anyway.  I did an update and needed to reboot the computer..

On rebooting..  All the drives are renamed.  /dev/sda is now /dev/sdc
and all kinds of stuff..

Luckily the system still works.  Don't know why..

How do I find out the uuid # on the partition I just created so I can
make the right entry in /etc/fstab?

TIA

Marvin
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Re: [PLUG] reply to suggestions on searching a big file 1 gig

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On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:05 PM, website reader
website.read...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestions, I will make some comments here.

 I see that I did not provide nearly enough context again, sorry about that.

 To start, almost all records in the file start with ^S.  There are
 1,053,062,790 records in the file so  I simply cannot grep for ^S
 because over a billion records will be retrieved.

 Secondly I do NOT have 24+ gigs of memory, to load the file into RAM
 and search that way.

 Scott's suggestion:

grep -f /tmp/sides.txt bigfile.txt

Where sides.txt is a list of all items you'd like to search for,
 one per line.

 might work, I will give it a try and see how well it executes.

 I am thinking of setting up multiple grep commands, using about a
 1,000 patterns to match in each grep command.

 Once again, thanks for the tips.
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I would suggest redirect into a file..  Takes A LOT of time to print..

something like

  grep -f /tmp/sides.txt bigfile.txt  new.text.file

YMMV

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Re: [PLUG] Question on efficiently searching large files for a simple text match

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:37 PM, website reader
website.read...@gmail.com wrote:
 To all:

 This is a question on efficiently searching for text items in a large
 file  1 gigabyte in size.

 I have a list of about 2 to 5 thousand items where an item is a couple
 of text words such as Side 2050 and S is always in the starting
 column, and have to search a large file around 24 gigabytes in size
 for these items.  The file is a simple text file, delineated by line
 feeds.

 Using the typical shell grep command script such as:

 grep Side 2050
 grep Side 2061
 etc.

 results in a very slow execution time, since the 24 gig file has to be
 searched for each line of the script and I am finding this to be very
 laborious and time consuming, not to mention all the hits on the hard
 drive as the script grinds through each line.

 I am aware of combining the grep into a pattern set, but then run into
 command line length limitations.  Is it best to go this way?

 What is the quickest way to do this type of search, when large files (
 1 gig ) are involved?

 Thanks for your tips, or suggestions.

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HI

Can  you just grep for S and save that in a file?

Then grep the new/smaller file for the rest?

HTH

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[PLUG] Printer Fail

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

Just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.4 to 12.4

Broke the printer.

Epson Stuylus 88+

Worked great before the upgrade.

Shows up in printers.

Accepts jobs.

Just no printing.


Darn I get this


Aug 30 12:57:39 home: kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
This is when I did the upgrade yesterday..  No new messages since then

I need to get Kernel logging back on.. How do I do that?

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] awk syntax

[Marvin Kosmal]

HI

I don't think it like the space before  |

Should be FS=|;

Best

Marvin

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
   I'm re-reading the ORA 'sed  awk' 2nd edition because I need to modify
 data files (130K lines in one and 45K lines in another). Should be a
 simple script but I'm getting a syntax error trying to define the OFS.

   Here's a line of the data file:
 'D-1'|'2007-12-12'|'Ag'|0.000|

   Since fields in the data file are delineated with '|'. I define FS = '|'
 in the BEGIN section, but awk doesn't like me to also define OFS there:

 awk: ./add-non-detect.awk:7: BEGIN { FS = | OFS = | }
 awk: ./add-non-detect.awk:7:                      ^ syntax error

   There's no explicit example in the book, only statements that the default
 output field separator is a space, and that's applied by putting a comma
 after the field variable. What have I missed?

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Re: [PLUG] awk syntax

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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote:
 HI

 I don't think it like the space before  |

 Should be FS=|;

 Best

 Marvin

 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com 
 wrote:
   I'm re-reading the ORA 'sed  awk' 2nd edition because I need to modify
 data files (130K lines in one and 45K lines in another). Should be a
 simple script but I'm getting a syntax error trying to define the OFS.

   Here's a line of the data file:
 'D-1'|'2007-12-12'|'Ag'|0.000|

   Since fields in the data file are delineated with '|'. I define FS = '|'
 in the BEGIN section, but awk doesn't like me to also define OFS there:

 awk: ./add-non-detect.awk:7: BEGIN { FS = | OFS = | }
 awk: ./add-non-detect.awk:7:                      ^ syntax error

   There's no explicit example in the book, only statements that the default
 output field separator is a space, and that's applied by putting a comma
 after the field variable. What have I missed?

 Rich




Oops

Sorry about top post

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Re: [PLUG] open office locked document

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

Try closing OpenOffice and then launch it again..

HTH

Marvin


On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM,  dfhubb...@freegeek.org wrote:

 I was writing in a open office document when it suddenly went dark and
 would no longer let me write.  Then I got the message Document file is
 locked for editing by: unknown user  Open document for Read only or make
 copy 

 I'm the only user.  I did not lock the document.

 Why did this happen?

 How do I undo this lock by unknown user?


 Thanks
 Debra



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 based on an acknowledgment of what was done wrong, and therefore on
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Re: [PLUG] Linux Re-clinic, Sunday March 25, 1pm, Free Geek

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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@gate.kl-ic.comwrote:

 As you may recall, the Linux Clinic suffered a power supply
 failure on the regularly scheduled 3rd Sunday.  We had to
 donate the Clinic to Free Geek for recycling.

 Well, the Clinic is back from recycling, with a new power
 supply, and ready to emit distros, advice, bad jokes, coffee,
 and snacks to local Linux users.  As always, the clinic will
 have wired and wireless internet, keyboards, screens, mice,
 and self-styled experts eager to provide well-intended if
 slightly bonkers advice.  We are trying to get the experts
 recycled, too, but some miracles are beyond even Free Geek.

 So bring your Linux machine and get that poorly documented
 Linux app working (or at least nagged at).  Bring in your
 Windoze desktop or laptop for a Service Pack Linux upgrade.
 Bring in your Mac and watch us learn the differences
 between Darwin/BSD and Linux!

 This circus returns to the Free Geek big top at 100pm on
 Sunday, March 25, 1731 SE 10th Avenue, Portland, three
 blocks south of Hawthorne.  No, it ISN'T Cirque du
 Solaris, though we do hope the sun will be shining.

 Keith




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HI

I am planning on bringing my broken monitor down to see if anything can be
done..

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[PLUG] Monitor

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Hi

My monitor died yesterday..   An LG 21 or maybe 20 inch.  I will bring it
to the clinic next week end and try to figure out if it is fixable.  Its a
FLATRON w2061TO.  Or it looks like that.

Where can I find a good buy on a new/reconditioned monitor.

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] Clinic changes

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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

  Free Geek has just learned that PGE will be shutting off the
  electricity (temporarily) on Sunday as there is work going on in
  the area so the LUG clinic will have to be canceled.

 Our choices are 1) cancel completely, 2) reschedule for the 25th. I
 contacted Paul Munday at Free Geek and he says no problem with the 25th
 (no conflicts), but he needs to tell people at tomorrow morning's
 meeting. I told him to go ahead and do so.

 Accordingly, I have decided to make an executive decision to move this
 Sunday's Clinic to Sunday March 25. OK, PLUG has no executives, but
 someone has to make a decision.

 I have changed the Calagator announcement, but everyone please spread
 the word. There will also be a sign on the door before this Sunday.

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I like it..

I couldn't come this Sunday..

I can come the next Sunday...  I will bring my LG monitor that just died...

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Linux certifications

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Rich Burroughs r...@richburroughs.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Some of you may remember me, I used to be pretty active in the group
 years ago :)

 I've been off in the Solaris world for the last few years but I'm
 interested in working with Linux again more. I was thinking about
 pursuing a certification and I wondered what recommendations people
 have about that.

 I passed the first LPI test years ago, I'm sure it's no longer valid.
 But back in the day it seemed like LPI or Redhat certification were
 the main choices.

 I'd appreciate any feedback on this, but if all you have to say is
 that certifications are worthless in general you can probably save
 your breath :) Part of the idea is for me to dig back into Linux, and
 I think it could be useful from that perspective, regardless of how it
 might help with employment.


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Hi

I would say the Certification plus the experience is a plus..  As others
have pointed out.  The test my highlight a weak area you have..

Good Luck

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Re: [PLUG] Battery Backup Troubleshooting

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On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote:

 I had a power outage this afternoon. I had saved my work beforehand and
 was away from the computer at the time. When I saw the lights go out I
 went to the computer to shut it down. It was already down and the
 battery backup was not telling me it was dealing with a power failure.
 The power is restored and all is working normally. But I'd like to
 figure out why the battery backup failed. Recommendations on what to
 look at will be appreciated.

 The battery backup is a Belkin F6C325-SER, which is rated for 325 VA or
 211 W. I've had this unit for quite a few years, possibly over 10.

 According to my Kill a Watt, my computer is drawing 1.40 A @ 118.2 volts
 (drifting between 117.9 and 118.4), and the Kill a Watt says 112 W.
 118.2 V x 1.4 A = 165.48 VA.

 When the power failed I also had one monitor powered through the battery
 backup. I have no monitor plugged in to the battery backup at this time
 -- just in case it was the straw that broke the lead-acid battery's
 back. The monitor that was plugged in at the time of the power failure
 is currently drawing 0.29 A @ 118.2 V (similar voltage drifting as
 above), 24 W.  118.2 V x 0.29 A = 34.278 VA

 My other monitor is drawing 0.25 A @ 118.2 V, 20 W.  118.2 V x 0.25 A =
 29.55 VA

 The battery was deemed to be working by a battery shop back in 2010.

 In theory I should be able to run the computer and both monitors.
 (112 + 24 + 20) W = 154 W.(165.48 + 34.278 + 29.55) VA = 229.308 VA

 Is there some rule of thumb that says one should only count on some
 percentage (less than 100) of the rated capacity of a battery backup?

 Thanks for hints, ideas, pointers, etc.

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HI

The specs..




   *Belkin 325 VA UPS*
  Cord Length:  6 ft.
  Voltage:  120 VAC
  Volt Amps:  325 VA
  Watts:  210 Watt
  Output Voltage Regulation:  Automatic Voltage Regulation
  Half Load Run Time:  13 minutes
  Battery Recharge Rate:  4 - Hours
  Dimensions:  8.6 x 6.2 x 8.8
  Weight:  12.13 lbs.
  Outlets:  8 Outlets
  Outlet Orientation:  4 Battery and Surge
   4 Surge Only

The important information...

Half Load Run Time:13 minutes.

It doesn't state Full Load run time.   Could assume 50%..  or  6.5
minutes in a perfect world..

I assume the software provides controlled shutdown with the time on the
unit?


HTH

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Re: [PLUG] Battery Backup Troubleshooting

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On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote:

 On 12/29/2011 05:40 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
  The specs..
 
  *Belkin 325 VA UPS*
 Cord Length:  6 ft.
 Voltage:  120 VAC
 Volt Amps:  325 VA
 Watts:  210 Watt
 Output Voltage Regulation:  Automatic Voltage Regulation
 Half Load Run Time:  13 minutes
 Battery Recharge Rate:  4 - Hours
 Dimensions:  8.6 x 6.2 x 8.8
 Weight:  12.13 lbs.
 Outlets:  8 Outlets
 Outlet Orientation:  4 Battery and Surge
  4 Surge Only
 
  The important information...
 
  Half Load Run Time:13 minutes.
 
  It doesn't state Full Load run time.   Could assume 50%..  or  6.5
  minutes in a perfect world..

 Hmm. Does that indicate that 1/2 load is what one should spec for? If
 that's the case I need a larger capacity unit.

 It was only a minute or so before I got to the machine. But if the
 battery is worn out, it wouldn't have lasted that long.

  I assume the software provides controlled shutdown with the time on the
  unit?

 Actually, no. I don't have a hardware connection from the battery to the
 computer.

 So. Next step is to take the battery to the battery store and see if
 they can tell me anything about it's ability to hold a charge. I
 probably bought it at Northwest Battery Supply. Sounds like a field trip
 is in order.

 Thanks to all for the feedback.

 In the event that it's the Belkin unit itself, what recommendations do
 folks have for units with that capacity that also have hardware
 connections my Ubuntu machine could use?

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Hi

My last unit.  Which I no longer have.  I  have nothing now..

Anyway, my last unit lasted exactly one minute.  It's only job was to shut
down the computer in the event of a power failure.

Worked just fine.  I never cruise the net or do work during a power
outage.  So SHUT OFF THE  COMPUTER..

A battery with a software connection to the computer.  I figure it would be
a waste to not have that communication..

So the software that came with the power unit was instructed to shut off
the computer if the power outage lasted 60 seconds.

HTH

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Re: [PLUG] Craig's List ad

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Denis Heidtmann
denis.heidtm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Lenovo edge e520

 http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ele/2764551913.html

 Is this as good as it seems?

 Thanks for your learned opinions.

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HI

Looks like $600 on the net..

I can't see anything wrong with it.  As long as it is not  stolen.

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Re: [PLUG] Mint 9

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

Problem solved.

Bad Burns..

I burned a Ubuntu 10.8 here..

Got the same issue as Mint.  Boot to a log in screen..

Found a commercial copy of 10.4 ubuntu.  It booted and is installing fine.

So for some reason the copy burned at Clinic and the copy I burned at home
were both unreadable by my CD reader...


How strange.

If someone want to send me a sources list for Mint I will replace the
source list and do update and upgrade on that..

Should work??

TIA


Marvin

PS..

Special thanks to JJJ and Clinic folks..







On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Matt McKenzie lnxkni...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi
 
  I have Mint 9... The 32 bit gnome version..
 
  I boot it and I get a command line..
 
  I have googled the Mint site and haven't found the key..
 
  What do I do from the Command Line to install Mint 9?
 
  I was expecting the install disk to come up and ask me if I wanted to
  install?
  ___
 

 Hi,

 Not sure if this was brought up already- is there a particular reason you
 are using an old version of Mint?
 They are on 11 now, and 12 is on the way soon.

 Also, can you describe the command line you are getting?
 Is it a standard bash prompt?

 (yourusername)@(yourcomputername)$  (standard user prompt)

 or




 I am getting

 mint@mint~$

 Full screen command line..

 I have Ubuntu 8.10 on the box.  So I feel X should not be a problem..

 I get an initial splash screen when Mint first boots off the CD...

 Marvin






 (yourusername)@(yourcomputername)#   (a root level prompt)

 or are you getting a prompt like this:

 grub (the grub boot prompt, if you get this there is a hang up in the
 boot process or the installer)

 This info will help us narrow down what might be happening.

 Are you booting a live CD version or the installer only version?

 Can you use shift+up-arrow or shift+page-up to scroll the screen up, to
 see
 any error messages?

 It is possible your configuration isn't supported for X video mode with
 the
 default settings.

 I would suggest if possible to try the recent live CD of Mint 11, or
 possibly a recent version of Knoppix, just to see if it can boot and bring
 up X11.


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Re: [PLUG] Mint 9

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:17 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

 On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 00:37:57 -0800
 Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com dijo:

 Hi
 
 Problem solved.
 
 Bad Burns..
 
 I burned a Ubuntu 10.8 here..
 
 Got the same issue as Mint.  Boot to a log in screen..
 
 Found a commercial copy of 10.4 ubuntu.  It booted and is installing
 fine.
 
 So for some reason the copy burned at Clinic and the copy I burned at
 home were both unreadable by my CD reader...
 
 How strange.

 Very strange, indeed.

 I would not find it unbelievable that my CD burner is going bad - the
 machine is a bit over four years old and I have used the optical drive
 heavily. So a bad CD from my end is entirely possible.

 But then you burned a copy at home using your burner and it was
 unreadable. That makes two bad burners in the mix here. The odds are
 now getting slimmer.

 If we had this to do over again I should have just put the ISO image on
 a USB stick and had you copy it directly onto your hard drive. Then you
 would have been able to re-burn it using other hardware until you got a
 readable copy.

 On the other hand, if I had a buck for every if and shoulda I could buy
 and sell Bill Gates out of my petty cash drawer.
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HI

I need to correct myself..

The bad burn is only in respect to my DVD reader...

On another machine, newer, it boots just fine.  And I am assuming would
install.

What we should have tried at the clinic was putting the disk in someone
else's computer to see how it acted.

We did that with mine.  Booted the WIN disk.   So we assumed I was clean.
I am thinking my reader has issues.

Shows you how touchy those readers can be.   And how I didn't do much of a
job of trouble shooting my own machine.

I am still waiting for someone to send me a copy of their Mint sources
list.  Drop that in there and see if it will change distro and upgrade on
the spot..  hehe

Thanks for all the help.

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Re: [PLUG] Mint 9

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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Matt McKenzie lnxkni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi
 
  I have Mint 9... The 32 bit gnome version..
 
  I boot it and I get a command line..
 
  I have googled the Mint site and haven't found the key..
 
  What do I do from the Command Line to install Mint 9?
 
  I was expecting the install disk to come up and ask me if I wanted to
  install?
  ___
 

 Hi,

 Not sure if this was brought up already- is there a particular reason you
 are using an old version of Mint?
 They are on 11 now, and 12 is on the way soon.

 Also, can you describe the command line you are getting?
 Is it a standard bash prompt?

 (yourusername)@(yourcomputername)$  (standard user prompt)

 or




I am getting

mint@mint~$

Full screen command line..

I have Ubuntu 8.10 on the box.  So I feel X should not be a problem..

I get an initial splash screen when Mint first boots off the CD...

Marvin






 (yourusername)@(yourcomputername)#   (a root level prompt)

 or are you getting a prompt like this:

 grub (the grub boot prompt, if you get this there is a hang up in the
 boot process or the installer)

 This info will help us narrow down what might be happening.

 Are you booting a live CD version or the installer only version?

 Can you use shift+up-arrow or shift+page-up to scroll the screen up, to see
 any error messages?

 It is possible your configuration isn't supported for X video mode with the
 default settings.

 I would suggest if possible to try the recent live CD of Mint 11, or
 possibly a recent version of Knoppix, just to see if it can boot and bring
 up X11.


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Re: [PLUG] Linux Clinic

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On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com wrote:

 I regret to inform you of my appearance at Linux Clinic,
 1 PM Sunday Nov 20 at Free Geek, 1731 SE 10th Ave in Portland,
 3 blocks south of Hawthorne.  I will be joined by our fearless
 leader John Jordan, and many of the Usual Suspects.

 We will have mice, keyboards, monitors, internet, distros,
 and confusion about Linux, which we would be glad to share
 with you.  You can bring your Linux problems, and have a
 hearty laugh while we try to solve them.

 If someone brings a washtub and some old disks, we can play
 the marvelous new Thai party game, bobbing for hard drives.
 I am not allowed to play the game in Thailand anymore.  I
 left the water running in the bathtub when I departed Bangkok,
 and that seems to have caused problems.

 So bring your Windows hard drives, and the computer around them,
 and we will dunk 'em or reformat 'em with Linux, your choice.

 Keith

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I plan on coming Sunday  and bringing two old computers.  I would like to
install Mint 9 on one of them.

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Linux Clinic

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

 On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:04:30 -0800
 Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com dijo:

 I plan on coming Sunday  and bringing two old computers.  I would like
 to install Mint 9 on one of them.

 I always maintain the latest releases of various distros, including
 Mint. But that means I just have Mint 11. There are various flavors of
 Mint 9:

http://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=13

 I have good bandwidth at home, so if you like I will download whichever
 one(s) you would like. Better for me to do so from home than to wait
 until the Clinic, because Free Geek doesn't have very good bandwidth,
 not to mention the time you'll have to sit waiting for it to download.
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I would like to try Mint 9 gnome 32 bit...!!

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Re: [PLUG] Linux Clinic

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On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:46 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

 On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:55:54 -0800
 Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com dijo:

 I would like to try Mint 9 gnome 32 bit...!!

 Downloaded. I did both the CD and the DVD, since the DVD was barely 100MB
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Thanks

See you Sunday

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[PLUG] Which Distribution has best staying power?

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

I am setting up a computer for some folks I only see every four years.  I
want to put a distribution on that will last time I see them next time.

I was thinking Ubuntu they have a version  that they maintain for four, ?,
years.

And other suggestions?

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu release party Sat night.

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:44 AM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Ali Corbin ali.cor...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:40 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net
  wrote:
 
  
   I have used Gnome all my Linux life, originally on Ubuntu and now on
   Fedora. I have KDE installed, but every time I try it I find it not to
   my taste. However, Fedora 15 came out with Gnome 3, and from what I
   have seen on the live CD I am not going to like it at all. I am still
   running Fedora 14 so as not to have to deal with Gnome 3, but soon I
   will be semi-forced to upgrade, as Fedora only supports the current and
   one release back, and Fedora 16 will be coming out soon.
  
   I am planning on spending some time in KDE to see if I can tweak it to
   my liking. Hint: I hate icons and I want my desktop utterly clear, not
   even wallpaper.
  
 
  I'm the opposite.  I've used KDE forever, even on
 redhat/fedora/RHEL/CentOS
  distros, where the default was always gnome.  For a while I'd try gnome
  after each upgrade, but always find something that I couldn't configure
 to
  my liking and switch back to KDE.
 
  Then came KDE4, with lots of bells and whistles.  I managed, with the
 help
  of google, to remove the icons from my desktop.  But I couldn't get rid
 of
  these little translucent nutty cashew thingies, and if I accidentally
  clicked on one then odd things would happen.  And I could no longer
  configure the keyboard the way I wanted.  In KDE!
 
  So I bailed.  Back to gnome, but only until I'd installed lxde on the
 box.
  Now I'm a happy camper again.
 
  Ali
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 I love KDE3  KDE4,  icons don't bother me.  I've tried many different
 Desktop Environments  Window Managers since 1999.  KDE is the one that
 works well  makes sense to me.  Of course, there are plenty of other
 people
 who feel the same way.  I run into them daily, online.

 Cheers,
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Sorry to chime in late

This release party is THIS Saturday or was last Saturday

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu release party Sat night.

[Marvin Kosmal]

OK  Thanks..

I must have missed it.

I was just interested in getting some disks..

Marvin


On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

 On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:51:16 -0700
 Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com dijo:

 This release party is THIS Saturday or was last Saturday

 It was last Saturday. You must have missed the announcement here.
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Re: [PLUG] Screen Resolution

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote:

 On 10/23/2011 10:17 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
  Marvin == Marvin Kosmalmkos...@gmail.com  writes:
  Marvin  Hi How do I figure out what my screen resolution is?
 
  Marvin  I am running Ubuntu..  Lucid
 
  Here's the first thing I found that works:
 
 xrandr --prop | grep current
 
  I am sure there are other ways.

 Not knocking the command line but another way with Ubuntu is to click on
 System  Preferences  Monitors. That brings up a window titled Monitor
 Preferences. The Resolution drop down box shows the list of
 possibilities. I assume they are for the monitor because they don't
 include the either the minimum or the maximum shown by xrandr for my
 machine.

 --
 Regards,

 Dick Steffens




Good..

Shows the same thing as the command line for me..

If I  understand the given information I am at max resolution for my
monitor  1600 X 900

Thanks for the info..

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Re: [PLUG] Very Slow Downloads

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote:

 For the last couple of days some of the web sites I go to have been
 downloading very slowly -- especially if any images are involved. I'm
 experiencing the same thing on both my laptop and my desktop machine,
 both running Ubuntu 10.04. Right now I'm downloading the nVidia non-free
 driver. It's been working on it for 15 minutes and, at 9:51 it is just
 under 1/2 finished.

 What's the right way to look into where the hold up is?

 --
 Regards,

 Dick Steffens


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HI

Try this speed test and see how that goes.


http://speedtest.net/

This worked well for me.  Reported just what speeds I am paying for..

Do you have a both computers connected to same point?  Can  you plug in
directly for a test to see if it is that.  Or recycle the power on the
router/switch...???

HTH

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Re: [PLUG] Very Slow Downloads

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote:

 On 10/24/2011 10:05 PM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
  On 10/24/2011 07:55 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 
  Can  you plug in directly for a test to see if it is that.

 I decided not to wait.

 I plugged my laptop into the cable modem and tried again.

 Ping = 18 ms
 Download = 19 Mbps
 Upload = 3.xx Mbps (I didn't write that one down)


  Or recycle the power on the router/switch...???
 

 Power cycled the router and got:

 Laptop
 Ping = 31 ms
 Download = 7.04 Mbps
 Upload = 3.69 Mbps

 Desktop
 Ping = 18 ms
 Download = 7.13 Mbps
 Upload = 3.7 Mbps

 Sounds like the good old reliable Netgear router -- which I've had since
 the days of @home -- needs to be retired. I've got a couple of
 WRT-whats-its in the closet. Must be time to get one out and fire it up.

 Thanks again for the pointer.

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[PLUG] Screen Resolution

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

How do I figure out what my screen resolution is?

I am running Ubuntu..  Lucid

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] Screen Resolution

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.netwrote:

  Marvin == Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com writes:

 Marvin Hi How do I figure out what my screen resolution is?

 Marvin I am running Ubuntu..  Lucid

 Here's the first thing I found that works:

  xrandr --prop | grep current

 I am sure there are other ways.


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That worked

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Re: [PLUG] Linux Clinic?

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:04 PM, dfhubb...@freegeek.org wrote:

 ok...

 It is the 3rd Sunday of the month of October and it is after 1 pm and I am
 sitting outside on the sidewalk at Free Geek waiting ..
 ...?

 I know I was sick last month and didn't let anyone know, but I'm not sick
 this month..


 I'll wait for a while


 Peace

 Debra



Hi

I don't remember seeing any announcement yesterday..

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Re: [PLUG] Brand X laser toner cartridges?

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com wrote:

 Anyone have good luck with brand X toner cartridges (specifically
 for the HP1600/2600, Q600[0123] {KCYR} )?

 In the past, I've refilled my own cartridges with toner from
 tonerrefillkits.com, but that is a little messy and time
 consuming.  Though their refill toner for most machines is
 excellent, the Q6000 black toner comes out gray.  So, I am
 looking for substitutes.

 I've had OK luck with Cartridge World toner, but it isn't
 much cheaper than original HP.  I've had terrible luck with
 Office Max branded substitutes - their red cartridge spilled
 toner into the optical calibration paths, and on circuit
 boards, and I had to disassemble the entire printer and
 clean it one part at a time.

 So, who is cheap and good for toner cartridges, especially
 mail order?

 Keith

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Re: [PLUG] Determining Memory Chip Speed

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote:

 I used sudo dmidecode --type memory to try to learn the speed of my
 currently installed memory. (I'm thinking of adding some.) I find that I
 have two 512 MB modules installed out of a possible 3 modules.

 dmidecode says Current Speed: Unknown for both of those.

 Is there some other way -- short of taking the cover off the box -- to
 find out what speed the chips are?

 Second question: Can I add a 1 GB module to the third socket or do I
 need to replace the two 512 MB modules with 1 GB modules to get to 2 GB?

 Thanks.

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HI

I am thinking finding out the Mother Board type is important to answer these
questions.


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Re: [PLUG] Determining Memory Chip Speed

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Neal nsed...@gmail.com wrote:

  As far as price, it doesn't matter wether you buy PC3200 or PC2700
 non-ECC memory. It's the same price.

 Be aware that the PC2700 can be faster than the PC3200. If you're
 running at PC2700 speed and the PC2700 is CL2.5 while the PC3200 is
 CL3, there will be a performance hit with the PC3200.

 Also, the speed of the other modules will effect maximum memory speed.
 I haven't played around with three module configurations but making
 sure the two 512MB modules are interleaved may help a bit, depending
 on the sophistication of the chipset, the BIOS, phase of the moon,
 etc.

 Burn a boot disk with Memtest86+ and play musical DIMMs to see what works
 best.

 http://www.memtest.org/ or many Linux install disks offer it as a boot
 option.

 NealS



I am thinking with a system this mature.  RAM speed is not going to do much
either way.

Did you mention CPU speed?


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Re: [PLUG] linux+ certification

[Marvin Kosmal]

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:53 AM, nathan w nat...@nathanewilliams.comwrote:

 It was my impression that linux+ got merged with LPI 101. IBM has excellent
 LPI training documentation

 - Reply message -
 From: jen montserrat jen.montser...@gmail.com
 To: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help,civil and on-topic 
 plug@lists.pdxlinux.org
 Subject: [PLUG] linux+ certification
 Date: Tue, Aug 2, 2011 10:38 am


 Anyone have any good recommendations on study materials for the Linux+
 certification?  I browsed through the available materials on Amazon, but
 Amazon appears to recycle user reviews for available materials so it is
 nearly impossible to tell for sure if the reviews one is reading even
 applies to the book being viewed.

 Budget is of concern so any expensive classroom oriented training is out of
 the question.

 Thank you for any useful information.

 ~ Jen






I thought Free Geek had lessons every now and again..

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Re: [PLUG] parking at/near OSCON

[Marvin Kosmal]

They lock the Lloyd Center parking lot at night.. I don't know what time..
 It would be a bad thing to have your car locked in the parking lot over
night..Hate sleeping in the car

Marvin

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:10 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

 On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:04:39 -0700
 C W elcas...@gmail.com dijo:

 I'm wondering what the parking situation is like at  near the
 convention center for OSCON.  I assume during the day, there is no
 free parking on the nearby streets.  Maybe there's some parking within
 a mile or so?

 The Free Rail Zone extends to the Lloyd Center, and a couple stops
 later you're at the Convention Center. The Lloyd Center is free parking
 and there's no way for them to know that you're not shopping. So just
 drive to the Lloyd Center, park, and walk a couple blocks south to the
 Max line. Take any Max train headed west and get off at the second stop
 after the Lloyd Center.

 Or you could actually walk from the Lloyd Center to the Convention
 Center. It's only about 20 blocks.
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Re: [PLUG] Lettering Program

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On 5/23/11, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
 On Mon, 23 May 2011, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

 Any ideas??

 Marvin,

Scribus?

 Rich
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Before I install this?

Is this pretty straight forward stuff?   Or is the learning curve way
to long for a single application?  I am very happy with OpenOffice.
All my needs, except for this one, are met.

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Lettering Program

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 5/23/11, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On Mon, 23 May 2011 18:20:14 -0700
 Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com dijo:


Scribus?

 Rich

Before I install this?

Is this pretty straight forward stuff?   Or is the learning curve way
to long for a single application?  I am very happy with OpenOffice.
All my needs, except for this one, are met.

 There is a bit of a learning curve to Scribus, but it certainly will do
 what you want.

 But I am curious why you cannot get letters 2.5 inches high (180 points)
 in OOo. I just did it here. No problem at all.
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Really??

The version I have only goes to 96..
Unless I have it mis-configured somehow???

I am using OpenOffice 3.2

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Re: [PLUG] Lettering Program

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 5/23/11, Fred James fredj...@fredjame.cnc.net wrote:
 Marvin Kosmal wrote:
 On 5/23/11, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Mon, 23 May 2011 18:20:14 -0700
 Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com dijo:



Scribus?

 Rich

 Before I install this?

 Is this pretty straight forward stuff?   Or is the learning curve way
 to long for a single application?  I am very happy with OpenOffice.
 All my needs, except for this one, are met.

 There is a bit of a learning curve to Scribus, but it certainly will do
 what you want.

 But I am curious why you cannot get letters 2.5 inches high (180 points)
 in OOo. I just did it here. No problem at all.
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 Really??

 The version I have only goes to 96..
 Unless I have it mis-configured somehow???

 I am using OpenOffice 3.2

 Marvin

 Marvin Kosmal
 (OOo 2.2.1) at 400pts a capital H seems to be at least 3.5 inches tall
 (Liberation Serif)
 Now the drop (selection) box only goes up to 96, but I just enter larger
 numbers manually (followed by a CR/Enter key, of course)
 Hope that helps
 Regards
 Fred James



Fred

That was the ticket..

I didn't know that trick

Good One

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[PLUG] eml file

[Marvin Kosmal]

HI

I am having a problem getting .eml file to run...

I have both rhythm box and VLC and neither will play this.

Is there a way to convert this to something that will play for me?

TIA


Marvin
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Re: [PLUG] eml file

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On 5/13/11, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On Fri, 13 May 2011 07:57:23 -0700
 Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com dijo:

I am having a problem getting .eml file to run...

I have both rhythm box and VLC and neither will play this.

Is there a way to convert this to something that will play for me?

 Try this:

 http://www.coolutils.com/Formats/EML

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That is a DOS/Windows executable.  I don't run Wine..

That was the problem I was having.. There are A LOT of sites, when you
google, but I couldn't find one I trusted.  And they all looked like
windows..

Thanks

Marvin



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Re: [PLUG] Natty issues

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 5/2/11, Word Wizard word.wiz...@comcast.net wrote:
 The installer had the correct resolution, possibly because I edited the
 boot-loader menu with the vga=795 command line addition. However, the
 installation came up  640x480 with 320x240 as the only option,
 regardless of  any  command line edits. I managed to download and
 install the latest NVidia driver. Not that it did much good. It allowed
 me to adjust the resolution to what I used in prior Ubuntu/Kubuntu
 installations but didn't allow saving that configuration for subsequent
 sessions. The save dialogue appeared but did not allow saving the Xorg
 config file. Even invoking nvidia-settings as root did not help.

 That meant I'd be forced to re-adjust back from the standard 640x480
 each session. Not impossible of course, but a pitiful step backward from
 the easy NVidia configuration of Jaunty Lucid and Maverick. Even then,
 the display was corrupted when I invoked KDE's konsole app, perhaps
 because I had reconfigured the font size.

 I could hack all this. I could install (as root) a prior xorg config
 file which had the appropriate resolutions that I generated in Mepis
 8.0. I could edit the fstab file to set up my preferred mount points.
 But why bother? Those fundamental mechanisms, as well as the numerous
 desktop bugs in Unity, should be fully operative in the installation of
 any respectable release. Shuttleworth will sure alienate any potential
 convert from Windows7 with this ungodly mess, and for what purpose?


snip

I am listening to all the chatter..

I am running Lucid and guess I will just continue.

It works fine and updates once a week.



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Re: [PLUG] bash test...

[Marvin Kosmal]

What bash version are you using??

bash --version
GNU bash, version 4.1.5(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.



HTH

Marvin


On 4/22/11, Robert Citek robert.ci...@gmail.com wrote:
 Works for me:

 $ EBS=/net/dbvol

 $ if [ ${EBS} == /net/dbvol ]; then echo yes ;else echo no ; fi
 yes

 $ EBS=/net/dbvolx

 $ if [ ${EBS} == /net/dbvol ]; then echo yes ;else echo no ; fi
 no

 I suspect the error is elsewhere.

 Regards,
 - Robert

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Russell Johnson r...@dimstar.net wrote:
 Does anyone see why I get Unexpected Operator with the following:

 if [ ${EBS} == /net/dbvol ]; then

 Russell Johnson
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Re: [PLUG] Hardware failure

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

How many RAM sticks do you have...

A dead stick could do that..

Pull them both out and see if any thing happens..

Good luck
HTH




On 4/11/11, rst...@comcast.net rst...@comcast.net wrote:
 When I got up this morning and went to check my e-mail, I moved the mouse to
 wake up the screen, but nothing happened. The fan on my desktop machine was
 still running, but the machine otherwise appeared dead. I tried holding the
 power button in, but nothing changed -- the fan kept running. I pulled the
 power cord from the back of the machine and the fan stopped (of course).
 After several seconds, I plugged the power cord back in and tried holding in
 the power button. Nothing happened.

 Obviously, something about the hardware has failed. I'll open the box later
 and look inside, but I doubt that will enlighten me very much. Any ideas on
 what to poke at?

 TIA.

 Regards,

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Re: [PLUG] Web site

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 4/7/11, Tim tim-pdx...@sentinelchicken.org wrote:
  I can't find .htaccess in root path..

 Marvin,

Create it. Any text editor, or cat, will do the job.


 I actually recommend against using .htaccess files for most sites,
 unless you have very specific requirements about allowing lots of less
 privileged users directly edit your web root settings.  (It is rare
 that you can't accomplish all the same things without .htaccess.)

 In order to interpret .htaccess files, Apache needs to traverse every
 single parent and ancestor directory of every document accessed to
 check to see if the config file exists and if its settings have
 changed.  In addition, .htaccess files can be a source of security
 issues.

 Marvin, once you get things working, consider moving those .htaccess
 settings back into the vhost config, and then disable AllowOverride
 (the setting which allows .htaccess files to work) entirely.

 Good luck,
 tim



Tim

I am quickly running into a brick wall..  I did create this file and
it didn't help..

I posted my config file yesterday..  Which I cleaned up and
doesn't even have the old web site that still comes up..

I cleaned my history on my browser

I may just try a different browser and see what that does...  In case
firefox has this stored somewhere that history doesn't get?

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Web site

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 4/7/11, Tim tim-pdx...@sentinelchicken.org wrote:
 I am quickly running into a brick wall..  I did create this file and
 it didn't help..

 I posted my config file yesterday..  Which I cleaned up and
 doesn't even have the old web site that still comes up..

 This may be obvious, but just to be sure:  You did restart Apache
 after making the configuration changes, right?

 apachectl restart

 or

 /etc/init.d/apache restart

 or similar

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hehe

Hit me with the stupid stick!!


Of course that was it..

Thanks

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[PLUG] Web site

[Marvin Kosmal]

Hi

Just discovered a problem with my web site..

If I enter  www.website.info   I get the correct stuff not the real name

If I enter website.info  I get another one of my sites not the right one.

Based on that information does anyone have a clue?
I have none..  Don't know if it has always behaved this way.

I am guessing there should be a fix in apache?

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] Web site

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 4/6/11, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
 On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

 Just discovered a problem with my web site..
 If I enter  www.website.info   I get the correct stuff not the real name
 If I enter website.info  I get another one of my sites not the right one.

 Marvin,

Looks to me like you need an .htaccess file in your document root to
 re-write the latter address to the former address.

In my case I did this:

 RedirectMatch permanent ^http://appl-ecosys\.com
 ^http://www.appl-ecosys.com/$

Woiks.

 Rich


Thanks

I am running apache2..

I can't find .htaccess in root path..

TIA

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Re: [PLUG] Web site

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 4/6/11, wes p...@the-wes.com wrote:


 I am running apache2..




 how are you defining your virtualhost? ServerName www.website.info?

 Apache does not make any assumptions about different hostnames pointing to
 the same place. You have to have both a ServerName and a ServerAlias if you
 want to use both names. I usually use the base domain as the ServerName (
 website.info) and use the other as the alias (ServerAlias www.website.info).

 -wes
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I have them the other way..

Will swap and see what that does..

Thanks

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Re: [PLUG] Web site

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 4/6/11, wes p...@the-wes.com wrote:

 I have them the other way..


 it would be nice if you could post your entire virtualhost config entry. you
 can sanitize it by replacing names specific to your setup with placeholders.

 -wes


The file is called httpd-vhost.conf

File location

/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/httpd-vhost.conf

# Virtual Hosts
#
# If you want to maintain multiple domains/hostnames on your
# machine you can setup VirtualHost containers for them. Most configurations
# use only name-based virtual hosts so the server doesn't need to worry about
# IP addresses. This is indicated by the asterisks in the directives below.
#
# Please see the documentation at
# URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
# for further details before you try to setup virtual hosts.
#
# You may use the command line option '-S' to verify your virtual host
# configuration.

#
# Use name-based virtual hosting.
#
NameVirtualHost *:80

ExtendedStatus On
#
# VirtualHost example:
# Almost any Apache directive may go into a VirtualHost container.
# The first VirtualHost section is used for all requests that do not
# match a ServerName or ServerAlias in any VirtualHost block.
#
VirtualHost *:80
   DocumentRoot /var/www/website
   ServerName website.info
   ServerAlias www.website.info
   ServerAdmin kos...@kosmal.net
   ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/website.info-error_log
   CustomLog /var/log/apache2/website.info-access_log common
/VirtualHost


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Re: [PLUG] Web site

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 4/6/11, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
 On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Marvin Kosmal wrote:

 Just discovered a problem with my web site..
 If I enter  www.website.info   I get the correct stuff not the real name
 If I enter website.info  I get another one of my sites not the right one.

 Marvin,

Looks to me like you need an .htaccess file in your document root to
 re-write the latter address to the former address.

In my case I did this:

 RedirectMatch permanent ^http://appl-ecosys\.com
 ^http://www.appl-ecosys.com/$

Woiks.

 Rich




Rich

I added this..

Put it in both

/var/www/
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Re: [PLUG] Broken Sony Vaio PCG-691L

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 2/27/11, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Feb 2011, John Jason Jordan wrote:

 However, I also said that I would query the group to see if anyone had any
 suggestions.

 John,

A few times I've taken notebook/laptop computers to Northwest Computer
 Support off 217 (10240 SW Nimbus Ave Ste L7, Portland, OR 97223;
 503-684-3280). They've done excellent work, told me the problem and cost
 before doing the repairs, and were reasonably priced.

While it's a long haul from out here I will go back to them if I need
 service on a portable computer.

Of course, Wes's price is going to be much lower than NCS's price. :-)

 Rich
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Usually works but, then there is Gravity.


HTH.

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Re: [PLUG] IBM T60

[Marvin Kosmal]

On 2/17/11, Mike Connors mconno...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can get this for  $350..  Is that a good price and will Linux fit well??

 IBM ThinkPad T60 14 Laptop w/ Intel Core Duo T2400 1.83 GHz (Centrino
 Duo), 2GB DDR, 60GB, DVD / CDRW Combo, 802.11g, Windows XP
 Professional.


 I've been running various versions of Debian Linux on my refurbished T60
 that I bought for $1500 back in '07. Initially, I had some challenges w. the
 ATI Radeo video adpater, Intel wifi chipset, Gigabit NIC, and suspend. But
 all of those issues have since been resolved in the mainline Debian / Ubuntu
 stream.

 Some things to consider...

 The Thinkpad is thee most solid built laptop I have ever used. I've been
 using my refurbished T60 as my everyday computer for 4 yrs. now w. nary a
 hardware problem. I just replaced the keyboard, which I got for free. There
 is also a known noisy fan bearing problem. It finally started happening on
 mine about a year ago. It hasn't affected the cooling ability of the fan.
 The fan can be easily replaced.

 I also upgraded mine to 4GB of RAM. For most of us, who aren't actually
 doing real computing or graphics intensive tasks, memory is going to be more
 important than CPU. The cpu in the T60 is higher performing than an ATOM but
 it uses more power.

 The key benefit of an ATOM processor, is it's low power consumption. I get
 approx 4 hrs on the stock battery, I would expect an ATOM based netbook to
 get double that. I have an extra battery I carry w. me that's easy to swap
 out.

 For any problem I've had be it software or hardware, I've been able to find
 the information I need fix it. Because there are lots of people out there
 running various versions of Linux on Thinkpads.

 There's 2 very good online resources for running Linux on Thinkpads:
 http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
 http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html

 Also, Keith L has a neat thing he's done to the display that greatly
 increases the resolution!

 So, I say $350 is a good deal. I just bought a 15inch T61 from a guy on
 Craigslist for $450. If you don't want to buy it, let me know, because I
 will!

 _Mike






Mike

Here is the link..

https://mail.google.com/mail/h/7gz9363yjqh6/?v=cser=AIKcX55SzESZWo9COoesh0CtLhZY9txAvAst=50th=12e1935102c730b7

I have bought computers here before and been happy.  They were new
desktop that took Linux with no sweat.  With laptops I was more
concerned because, I have always heard they are a bit harder to get
Linux on at times..

I think I have found a cheaper one..

Best

Marvin
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