Re: [PLUG] Syllable Operating System, what happened?

2018-10-24 Thread wes
The developers have definitely given up. But there are at least a few
people still trying to use it:

https://sourceforge.net/p/syllable/mailman/syllable-developer/

-wes

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:29 PM  wrote:

> I notice that my link to http://www.syllable.org doesn't work these days.
> Did the community behind Syllable give up on it?
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[PLUG] Syllable Operating System, what happened?

2018-10-24 Thread michael
I notice that my link to http://www.syllable.org doesn't work these days. Did 
the community behind Syllable give up on it?
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[PLUG] GPLv2 verses Oracle java license...

2018-10-24 Thread michael
Oracle has a weird license for Java 11 SE. I'm wondering what the state of 
openjdk is and if I can use that in Windows 7?

What is the difference between JDK 11.0.1 Oracle license and JDK 11.0.1 GPL v2 
with an exclusion clause?

I am writing a financial calculator for a company that sells insurance, so I 
need to pay attention to licensing.

I prefer to implement this license wise in a Linux friendly/ReactOS friendly 
manner. One never knows if ReactOS stabilizes whether or not
this company will stick with Microsoft Windows 7.
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Re: [PLUG] Sorting mail with procmail recipe

2018-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Paul Heinlein wrote:


By default, the regex is run only against the mail headers, though
procmail recipes can grep the message body as well if you'd like.


Paul,

  I didn't know this.


The reason I like grep-ing the List-Id header is that, for instance,
personal replies to list messages will end up in my inbox rather than in
the list folder.


  Good point; I'll change all recipes to use List-Id.

  Often response messages sent to 'all' end up in my inbox as well as the
mail list, but those sent to me don't appear on the latter.


If you choose to match the Subject: header, make sure your rule is
flexible enough to match reply (re:, Re:, etc) strings prior to the group
name. See, for instance, the Subject: header in this message.


  Meh. The current recipes for most mail lists work OK. Why this one list
changed its behavior I've no idea, except that it's sent via osgeo.org
rather than grass.org.

Thanks for the insights,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Sorting mail with procmail recipe

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Rich Shepard wrote:


On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Paul Heinlein wrote:


 There's nothing special about the List-Id header; it's just something that
 Mailman inserts into outbound messages. Perhaps other list managers use it
 as well.

 Open a list message in Alpine and press the H key to see the full headers.
 You should be able to spot that header if it's there. If not, the
 osgeo.org list server may have another header that procmail can spot.


Paul,

 Yep, it's there all right.

I was thinking of using the subject line tag associated with that list:
Subject: [GRASS-user]
because I was not familiar with all recipe options for procmail.


All procmail does is run a case-insensitive egrep regular expression 
against your inbound messages. By default, the regex is run only 
against the mail headers, though procmail recipes can grep the message 
body as well if you'd like.


The reason I like grep-ing the List-Id header is that, for instance, 
personal replies to list messages will end up in my inbox rather than 
in the list folder.


If you choose to match the Subject: header, make sure your rule is 
flexible enough to match reply (re:, Re:, etc) strings prior to the 
group name. See, for instance, the Subject: header in this message.


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Re: [PLUG] Sorting mail with procmail recipe

2018-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Paul Heinlein wrote:


There's nothing special about the List-Id header; it's just something that
Mailman inserts into outbound messages. Perhaps other list managers use it
as well.

Open a list message in Alpine and press the H key to see the full headers. 
You should be able to spot that header if it's there. If not, the osgeo.org 
list server may have another header that procmail can spot.


Paul,

  Yep, it's there all right.

  I was thinking of using the subject line tag associated with that list:
Subject: [GRASS-user]
because I was not familiar with all recipe options for procmail.

Thanks again,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Sorting mail with procmail recipe

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Rich Shepard wrote:


On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Paul Heinlein wrote:


 Does the list provide a List-Id header? That's usually the one I use,
 e.g.,

 # mailing lists
: 0
 * ^List-Id:.*<(plug|plug-talk)\.pdxlinux\.org>
 .mailinglists.plug/


Paul,

 Yes. In this case the grass-u...@lists.osgeo.org. I tried that preceeded
by ^(From|Cc|To) as well as the above address and both failed.

 I was unaware of the List-Id: label, even after reading the man and web
pages. I'll try that now.


There's nothing special about the List-Id header; it's just something 
that Mailman inserts into outbound messages. Perhaps other list 
managers use it as well.


Open a list message in Alpine and press the H key to see the full 
headers. You should be able to spot that header if it's there. If not, 
the osgeo.org list server may have another header that procmail can 
spot.


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Re: [PLUG] Sorting mail with procmail recipe

2018-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Paul Heinlein wrote:


Does the list provide a List-Id header? That's usually the one I use,
e.g.,

# mailing lists
:0
* ^List-Id:.*<(plug|plug-talk)\.pdxlinux\.org>
.mailinglists.plug/


Paul,

  Yes. In this case the grass-u...@lists.osgeo.org. I tried that preceeded
by ^(From|Cc|To) as well as the above address and both failed.

  I was unaware of the List-Id: label, even after reading the man and web
pages. I'll try that now.

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Sorting mail with procmail recipe

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Rich Shepard wrote:


 One mail list to which I am subscribed is no longer obeying the recipe in
~/procmail/recipes.rc. It's probably a regex error and I'd like to learn why
so I can fix it.

  The current recipe is:
: 0:
* ^(From|Cc|To).*lists.osgeo.org
spatial-analyses

A recent message in my INBOX rather than that file is addressed this way:

To: grass-u...@lists.osgeo.org


Rich,

Does the list provide a List-Id header? That's usually the one I use, 
e.g.,


# mailing lists
:0
* ^List-Id:.*<(plug|plug-talk)\.pdxlinux\.org>
.mailinglists.plug/

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[PLUG] Sorting mail with procmail recipe

2018-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard

  One mail list to which I am subscribed is no longer obeying the recipe in
~/procmail/recipes.rc. It's probably a regex error and I'd like to learn why
so I can fix it.

  The current recipe is:
:0:
* ^(From|Cc|To).*lists.osgeo.org
spatial-analyses

A recent message in my INBOX rather than that file is addressed this way:

To: grass-u...@lists.osgeo.org

  The former recipe had this form:

:0:
* ^TO_.*@lists.osgeo.org
spatial-analyses

which works for To: and Cc: on other mail lists (and used to work for the
osgeo.org maillists, too.

  Your thoughts welcomed.

Rich

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