Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 4.0 - integrate local library with your Spotify collection (LMS 8+)

2021-01-09 Thread Michael Herger

When this one-track-behind occurs, it also happens on the LMS web
interface. > So we can rule out squeezelite on RPI.


Agreed, I've seen it happen with the Transporter, too. And yes, I've 
looked into this before, tried to reproduce in many ways. But I've never 
been able to so on purpose. It happens sometimes, but I don't know when.



Michael, please take a look at the dump; I'm sure it will give you some
hints hopefully.


Unfortunately all your server.log shows is that it's missing the 
PLUGIN_RADIOTIME_MODULE_NAME string for whatever reason (did you disable 
the Radio plugin?). And that you're running a rather old LMS :-).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 4.0 - integrate local library with your Spotify collection (LMS 8+)

2021-01-09 Thread Michael Herger

Touch and Radios but there is a piCorePlayer as well. On the
piCorePlayer I did change internal stream buffer to 2kb and output
buffer to 6kb when messing around testing DXD files.


Ok, it's these buffer settings which cause the pre-buffer optimization 
to be enabled automatically.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty playback issues

2021-01-09 Thread Michael Herger

Spotty is logged in and I can see my stuff but it plays 10 seconds of a
song and jumps to next.


Those 10s are just the UI claiming to do so, but it actually doesn't 
play at all?

What kind of player are you using?
Is this in Spotify Connect mode, or controlled through LMS? If the 
former, please try LMS directly.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng on Big Sur

2021-01-09 Thread Michael Herger

Is it the iPeng iOS app running on an M1 based Mac ?


Yes.


Or is it available on Intel Macs also ?


No. AFAIK the iOS apps are only available on M1.


Looks great on the screenshot 🙂


Haven't played much with it yet, as it's not my primary work machine... 
but impressive in what I've seen so far. My Intel based MB Pro from 
early 2020 would always run at >60°C, even when I don't do much. That M1 
I've only seen once a little above 35°C, while four cores were fully 
maxed out compiling code. Usually it sits there around 25°C.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] SuperDateTime Screensaver v5.11.0 - Date/Time/Weather/Sports/Stocks

2021-01-09 Thread BoomX2


Based on the feedback from @bluetdi I added a setting to select the
air-pressure units displayed in the Extras menu.  I also made an effort
to improve language localization replace by replacing the hard coded
English text throughout SDT.   

I used Google Translate so there may be some mistakes.  Feedback on any
errors you observe is welcome.  I focused on German, Dutch and Spanish. 
If there is interest in other languages let me know.  Even better if you
would provide a revised strings.txt file with the language additions you
desire.


Code:


  5.11.9 01/09/21   Added setting to select Air Pressure units displayed in 
Extras menu. 
  Improved language localization.
  
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Looking for someone willing to update Inguz EQ/DRC settings page

2021-01-09 Thread Apesbrain

Gobuleberbu wrote: 
> IsnÂ’t ipeng able to control the inguz plugin?
Orange Squeeze can and also Squeeze Commander, but the latter no longer
runs as of Android 11.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 4.0 - integrate local library with your Spotify collection (LMS 8+)

2021-01-09 Thread slartibartfast


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Touch and Radios but there is a piCorePlayer as well. On the
> piCorePlayer I did change internal stream buffer to 2kb and output
> buffer to 6kb when messing around testing DXD files.
> The "clean up album and track titles" box gets ticked automatically as
> well as the "optimize pre-buffering" box.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkHmm strange things happen when playing 
> Spotify Connect to Squeezelite
with those buffer settings with or without the "Optimize pre-buffering"
enabled. The phone app still jumps a couple of tracks ahead of LMS and
at one point the same track kept repeating but the now playing time
would jump from near the beginning to the end.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Looking for someone willing to update Inguz EQ/DRC settings page

2021-01-09 Thread Gobuleberbu

Agreed.  

IsnÂ’t ipeng able to control the inguz plugin?

Anyone succeeded at compiling the plugin for the raspberry pi?





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] LMS Announce - play announcements / notifications

2021-01-09 Thread Roland0


andyss wrote: 
> Any progress on this?
Just released an update - give it a try.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 4.0 - integrate local library with your Spotify collection (LMS 8+)

2021-01-09 Thread slartibartfast


mherger wrote: 
> > How would the buffer size be changed. I am pretty sure I haven't
> changed
> 
> What kind of players do you have? This usually is only a topic if you're
> 
> running squeezelite somewhere.
> 
> -- 
> 
> MichaelTouch and Radios but there is a piCorePlayer as well. On the
piCorePlayer I did change internal stream buffer to 2kb and output
buffer to 6kb when messing around testing DXD files.
The "clean up album and track titles" box gets ticked automatically as
well as the "optimize pre-buffering" box.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 4.0 - integrate local library with your Spotify collection (LMS 8+)

2021-01-09 Thread pavowren


pavowren wrote: 
> here's a log dump which may shed some light on this issue.

When this one-track-behind occurs, it also happens on the LMS web
interface.
So we can rule out squeezelite on RPI.
Michael, please take a look at the dump; I'm sure it will give you some
hints hopefully.

As I stated before, this does not happen each time but often enough to
be bothersome.
I don't have a clue what triggers it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng on Big Sur

2021-01-09 Thread erland


mherger wrote: 
> Ahm... nobody mentioned this so far, or did I miss something?
> 
> 32899
> 
> How well it works on a desktop I'll have to see :)

Is it the iPeng iOS app running on an M1 based Mac ?
Or is it available on Intel Macs also ?

Looks great on the screenshot 🙂



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread DAR


cpd73 wrote: 
> I agree it should not affect functionality. My point was that if the
> volume shown in LMS was not the volume used on the player, then it has
> no real meaning and would be confusing. If it does reflect the real
> volume then it should be shown.
> 
> I have updated Material to be consistent - and removed the 'Fixed
> volume' label. I've added a server-side yes/no option as to whether
> fixed volume should be respected. If set to 'No' then Material will
> treat a fixed volume player as a normal player - show volume slider and
> value. If set to 'Yes' it will show the slider as disabled and not show
> a volume level. I guess this resolves the issue?

I just installed the dev version, and it works GREAT for my purposes
(for my fixed volume player with receiver run by DenonSerial plugin). 
I'm in the process of switching over all of my controllers to MS. 
Thanks so much for your responsiveness!!!



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Spotty playback issues

2021-01-09 Thread cburbs


Logitech Media Server Version: 8.0.0 - 1605892076
Runs in a Docker on Unraid
Connects to a Pi4 running piCorePlayer v6.1.0

Pandora works
NAS music works from unraid server

Spotty is logged in and I can see my stuff but it plays 10 seconds of a
song and jumps to next.

I get no sound though even when it does that.

I am seeing this in logs...

[21-01-09 09:57:53.4436]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:57:55.8979]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:57:55.8988]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:57:55.9685]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:57:55.9695]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:57:58.9606]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:57:58.9614]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:58:01.8904]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:58:01.8912]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:58:02.9127]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (201) Found cached
metadata for spotify:track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:02.9138]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:02.9158]
Plugins::Spotty::AccountHelper::purgeAudioCacheAfterXTracks (228) Played
49 song(s) since last audio cache purge.
[21-01-09 09:58:02.9285]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:02.9297]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:02.9306]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (201) Found cached
metadata for spotify:track:2ekd04P4oSVuNzo8qYK38m
[21-01-09 09:58:02.9314]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:02.9319]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (201) Found cached
metadata for spotify:track:67rLjOwn17i6DLV1lp9c3Q
[21-01-09 09:58:05.7441]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:05.7451]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:06.7208]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:06.7217]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:06.8121]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:06.8134]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:07.7364]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:07.7376]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:07.8756]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:07.8763]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:08.8917]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR6y1LnIphG69Vezcvf
[21-01-09 09:58:08.8928]
Plugins::Spotty::ProtocolHandler::getMetadataFor (181) Returning
metadata cached in song object for
spotify://track:1TDAR

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread cpd73


gnackwatschn wrote: 
> Any tips on how I can download your dev version? I know, I could
> download manually and copy the files, but maybe there is an 'official'
> way? Never installed fom a git until now.

The only way is to clone the git repo, and copy the 'MaterialSkin'
folder to your Plugins folder.



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messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
will be logged here.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread cpd73


reinholdk wrote: 
> Craig, I think there is a misunderstanding about the multiple artist
> tagging.
> You don't need to tell whether "a, b, c" is 3 artists or not. To have
> multiple artists one would use "a;b;c" and LMS would treat this as three
> artists if the semicolon is defined as the separator in 'Settings/My
> Music/Separator for Multiple Items in Tags', which it is by default.

I know that. But, I've just tried setting Artist to "a, b;c" - and LMS
produces and artist list of "a, b, c". So, as stated, there is no (easy)
way of knowing if the comma is to separate artists or is part of an
artist's name (and yes I know that is unlikely).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread reinholdk


cpd73 wrote: 
> 
> And, as I have stated multiple times, I cannot do this. There is no way
> (AFAIK) to tell if "a, b, c" is 3 artists, 2 artists (e.g. "a" and "b,
> c", or "a, b" and "c"), etc. If LMS returned an array of artists, then
> yes, but it does not.
> 

Craig, I think there is a misunderstanding about the multiple artist
tagging.
You don't need to tell whether "a, b, c" is 3 artists or not. To have
multiple artists one would use "a;b;c" and LMS would treat this as three
artists if the semicolon is defined as the separator in 'Settings/My
Music/Separator for Multiple Items in Tags', which it is by default.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows / Asio Channels and Multiple instances.

2021-01-09 Thread s25a


Hi again,

I could start a 2nd instance by using a different macadress with -m
"FAKE MACADRESS" . So that is working. 
Does anybody know how to map the Asio channels?

THanks S



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread gnackwatschn


cpd73 wrote: 
> I agree it should not affect functionality. My point was that if the
> volume shown in LMS was not the volume used on the player, then it has
> no real meaning and would be confusing. If it does reflect the real
> volume then it should be shown.
> 
> I have updated Material to be consistent - and removed the 'Fixed
> volume' label. I've added a server-side yes/no option as to whether
> fixed volume should be respected. If set to 'No' then Material will
> treat a fixed volume player as a normal player - show volume slider and
> value. If set to 'Yes' it will show the slider as disabled and not show
> a volume level. I guess this resolves the issue?

For me, this sounds perfect. Thank you! 

Any tips on how I can download your dev version? I know, I could
download manually and copy the files, but maybe there is an 'official'
way? Never installed fom a git until now.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2021-01-09 Thread bpa


yas1 wrote: 
> But I don't see any maxVersion defined in the install.xml, only a
> minVersion, what am I missing here?
> 
> Squeezecenter
> 7.3
> *
> 

IIRC The maxVersion used to be set to 7.*  -  I changed it to * which
means no limit - if set to 8.* then when 9.0 came along same problem
would arise.

The original intent of the plugin update procedure (i.e. leave code
installed that was not compatible) was to allow a user edit the
install.xml manually to override the compatibility constraint. However
in practice - some users had difficulties editing the file.



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite for Windows / Asio Channels and Multiple instances.

2021-01-09 Thread s25a


Hi all,

I have a 64Bit Asio Interface here which I would like to use with
Squeezelite. It appears in the Audio List and can be selected. It plays
on Channel 1+2.

2 questions:

1) Is it possible to have multiple instances of squeezelite? Under Linux
this is very easy as you just have to start it twice on a second command
line. In Windows it appears that it is not possible but maybe there's an
option.
2) If it would be possible to start a 2nd (or 3rd) instance how can I
assign The channels of the Interface. Under Linux I have done that in
the asound config. With foobar e.g. there is an option called
channelmapping where I could assign this in the software but with
squeezelite I have not found anything yet. 
There's no option in the driver as far as I could see.

Thanks for your help

S



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2021-01-09 Thread yas1


bpa wrote: 
> The WaveInput was only valid for 7.9.* before 8.0 was released.  When
> 8.0 was released for a few months and I had time to check out the plugin
> with 8.0 -  I then updated WaveInput plugin so that it would compatible
> with 8.*
> 
> I think you are saying you had WaveInput already installed with 7.9.3
> (and maybe earlier)  - this wasn't clear from earlier post.
> So the version of the plugin already installed in 7.9 had validity
> marked for 7.9.* in install.xml from the pre-existing installed version
> of WaveInput - whereas the repository version of WaveInput has an
> updated install.xml for 8.* compatibility.
> After upgrade to 8.1 -  the plugin version did not change so no plugin
> update, but the compatibility as indicated in install.xml still show
> only 7.9.* compatibility.  
> To get an updated install.xml which had 8.* compatibility - plugin had
> to be uninstalled and reinstalled.
> 
> This "install.xml" issue is true for many plugins which did not have a
> version update as there is no code change.

That makes sense *bpa* thank you. 
But I don't see any maxVersion defined in the install.xml, only a
minVersion, what am I missing here?

root@x:/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/WaveInput#
ls -l
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 3 squeezeboxserver nogroup   60 Jan  8 19:20 HTML
-rw-r--r-- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup 1671 Oct  9  2009 Plugin.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup 2031 Oct  9  2009 Settings.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup 2293 Oct  9  2009 WAVIN.pm
-rw-r--r-- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup  355 Oct 12  2009
custom-convert.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup  478 Dec 17  2008
custom-convert.conf.eca
-rw-r--r-- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup  301 Jul  5  2008
custom-types.conf
-rwxr--r-- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup  652 Feb 27  2020 install.xml
-rwxr--r-- 1 squeezeboxserver nogroup  538 Jul 18  2008 strings.txt
root@x:/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/WaveInput#
cat install.xml



PLUGIN_WAVEINPUT
Plugins::WaveInput::Plugin
RADIO
1.04
PLUGIN_WAVEINPUT_DESC
bpa
enabled

plugins/WaveInput/settings/basic.html
plugins/WaveInput/html/images/waveinput.png
2

Squeezecenter
7.3
*

Linux





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread cpd73


gnackwatschn wrote: 
> Secondly: I agree, cosmetics do matter. But cosmetics should not impact
> functionality to a level that makes software unusable for some users. In
> case it really matters so much in our situation, also the volume buttons
> and the volume controls in the 'manage players' view should be disabled,
> to be consistent.

I agree it should not affect functionality. My point was that if the
volume shown in LMS was not the volume used on the player, then it has
no real meaning and would be confusing. If it does reflect the real
volume then it should be shown.

I have updated Material to be consistent - and removed the 'Fixed
volume' label. I've added a server-side yes/no option as to whether
fixed volume should be respected. If set to 'No' then Material will
treat a fixed volume player as a normal player - show volume slider and
value. If set to 'Yes' it will show the slider as disabled and not show
a volume level. I guess this resolves the issue?



*Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json
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messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread slartibartfast


cpd73 wrote: 
> Actually, AFAICS, iPeng has the volume control disabled - except on the
> lockscreen, but the control does not seem to work.
> 
> 
> 
> Cosmetics do matter.
> 
> I have no real fixed volume devices, so I cannot really test. But, does
> the volume shown in the Default web UI reflect the real volume? i.e. if
> you change the volume on the real player, does LMS show the real volume
> level? If not, then showing the level here is bad - as it implies its a
> value it is not.If you have any Squeezelite players I believe they can be set 
> as fixed
volume. As far as cosmetics goes I assume anyone who has a device set to
fixed volume would ignore the volume slider anyway unless they have an
amplifier controlled by it. I generally have my Touch at 100% volume but
don't use the fixed setting just because it is sometimes handy to be
able to lower the volume temporarily using an app. It would be
interesting to know how many people use the fixed volume setting who
don't have an amplifier with LMS controlled volume.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread gnackwatschn


cpd73 wrote: 
> Actually, AFAICS, iPeng has the volume control disabled - except on the
> lockscreen, but the control does not seem to work.
> 
> 
> 
> Cosmetics do matter.
> 
> I have no real fixed volume devices, so I cannot really test. But, does
> the volume shown in the Default web UI reflect the real volume? i.e. if
> you change the volume on the real player, does LMS show the real volume
> level? If not, then showing the level here is bad - as it implies its a
> value it is not.


Firstly: I am only  using default skin and also Squeezer. So I can
definitely confirm, that on both the volume controls are working
perfectly and also reflect the values of the AVR volume. As iPeng is
recommended by the Denon plugin developers, I suggested that it works
the same. I apologize if that part of my post was wrong.

Secondly: I agree, cosmetics do matter. But cosmetics should not impact
functionality to a level that makes software unusable for some users. In
case it really matters so much in our situation, also the volume buttons
and the volume controls in the 'manage players' view should be disabled,
to be consistent.

I understand totally understand the point, that some people want to keep
it as it is. That's why I requested this as an optional setting. I never
intendend to change the default behaviour for everyone.

So maybe that would be the best way to go?

I also did not want to start a big discussion about that, just wanted to
give feedback.

That said I think it is up to you, to decide and I will respect your
decision in every case.

Keep up the great work.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2021-01-09 Thread bpa


yas1 wrote: 
> Well I updated from 7.9.3~1591161343 to 8.1.0 and WavInput remained in
> the active plugins list but with *no tick* in the box and its
> description was 'Plugin is incompatible with this version of Logitech
> Media Server. Please update.'
The WaveInput was only valid for 7.9.* before 8.0 was released.  When
8.0 was released for a few months and I had time to check out the plugin
with 8.0 -  I then updated WaveInput plugin so that it would compatible
with 8.*

I think you are saying you had WaveInput already installed with 7.9.3
(and maybe earlier)  - this wasn't clear from earlier post.
So the version of the plugin already installed in 7.9 had validity
marked for 7.9.* in install.xml from the pre-existing installed version
of WaveInput - whereas the repository version of WaveInput has an
updated install.xml for 8.* compatibility.
After upgrade to 8.1 -  the plugin version did not change so no plugin
update, but the compatibility as indicated in install.xml still show
only 7.9.* compatibility.  
To get an updated install.xml which had 8.* compatibility - plugin had
to be uninstalled and reinstalled.

This "install.xml" issue is true for many plugins which did not have a
version update as there is no code change.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread cpd73


DAR wrote: 
> I'm happy to test but am not sure how to install the dev version.  I
> tried editing my install.xml to switch "2.1.3" with "DEVELOPMENT-TIME"
> and restarting LMS, but the plugin files don't seem to have updated. 
> Should this occur automatically, or do I need to synchronize the files
> manually?

No, you would need to checkout the code fro mgithub and then manually
copy the MaterialSkin folder to your plugins folder. I do not make
dev/nightly releases - too much hassle.



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messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

2021-01-09 Thread yas1


bpa wrote: 
> 
> IIRC Those messages do not appear unless log level plugin.extensions has
> been changed from ERROR and set to be retained after LMS restarts - so
> that sounds like it is historical - a change made a good time ago.
> 

No I had turned on debug for the plugin.extensions and restarted LMS in
order to get the debug output for WaveInput after reading the previous
post #508 about the same issue following update to 8.1

bpa wrote: 
> 
> The "uninstall" and "install" shows you probably haven't been restarting
> LMS after requesting a plugin to be installed/uninstalled.
> 

Please see above, I had restarted when turning on debug. The uninstall
and install appeared when I installed the update to BBC Sounds and
restarted.

bpa wrote: 
> 
> When uninstalled, it is in 3rd Party plugins.  Did you manually add a
> repository ?  
> 
Yes it is. No.


bpa wrote: 
> 
> Unless you describe what "ODD happening" is - I can't help.

Well I updated from 7.9.3~1591161343 to 8.1.0 and WavInput remained in
the active plugins list but with *no tick* in the box and its
description was 'Plugin is incompatible with this version of Logitech
Media Server. Please update.' I enabled debug and got the messages in
the log as I posted. I also ticked the box next to WaveInput in the
active plugins, applied and restarted: this made no difference. Later I
noticed there was an update available to BBC Sounds so I applied that
and restarted and at that point I got the uninstall message for
WaveInput in the log. WaveInput then appeared in the 3rd party plugins
list and I was able to select it, apply and restart, at which point the
plugin works. That whole sequence does not seem like the 'normal' one to
me and I therefore surmise it to be 'odd'. Short of sending you the
complete server.log, which you are most welcome to, I'm not sure what
else I can tell you, the plugin is fine now and I'm very grateful to you
for the effort you've made to create it in the first place and to help
idiots like me when things go wrong!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread cpd73


gnackwatschn wrote: 
> Consistency: It would work like default skin, Squeezer and iPeng. All
> those ignore the fixed volume setting, or, at least have an option for
> doing so.

Actually, AFAICS, iPeng has the volume control disabled - except on the
lockscreen, but the control does not seem to work.

gnackwatschn wrote: 
> - Functional vs. cosmetic:

Cosmetics do matter.

I have no real fixed volume devices, so I cannot really test. But, does
the volume shown in the Default web UI reflect the real volume? i.e. if
you change the volume on the real player, does LMS show the real volume
level? If not, then showing the level here is bad - as it implies its a
value it is not.



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(Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update
messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
will be logged here.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin

2021-01-09 Thread gnackwatschn


cpd73 wrote: 
> The dev version sends +/- the defined volume increment when using the
> up/down vol buttons when a player has fixed volume. This is also
> extended by a server-side Material setting that will cause Material to
> 'ignore' the fixed volume state. When that is set, the volume for fixed
> volume players will be controlled as if they are not fixed volume - so
> the slider will be active, and the up/down buttons will set a volume
> relative to the current (as shown in the slider) volume. So, if vol=80%
> and increment=5%, then down will set volume to 75%
> 
> However, I'm not sure if this is really required. Or if Material should
> just ignore fixed volume?

In my opinion MS should ignore the fixed volume setting (slider and
button) , or, at least give an Option to do so. Here a  short sum up of
the reasons I see:

- Consistency: It would work like default skin, Squeezer and iPeng. All
those ignore the fixed volume setting, or, at least have an option for
doing so.
- Less development effort: Fixed volume string is not localized yet,
manage player settings still ignores it
- Functional vs. cosmetic: Leaving the slider fixed strongly impacts the
usability in some cases and forces users to switch to another skin. On
the other side there is just a small cosmetic downside for others, when
the slider isn't fixed aymore.

This is only my opinion, but there are some objective reasons to think
so.



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