Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Triode;453392 Wrote: > Version 0.9a is now available which contains two minor changes: > 1) It detects if your server supports aac and if not falls back to > wma/mp3 > 2) It provides better support for presets on 7.4 > > As per discussion above. If you want to override 1) and always use the > non aac streams, then disable aac decoding on the server files types > menu. Cool - there is also a thread on the Netgear NAS forum about AAC enabling which looks as if it SHOULD be possible. It's here: http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=26302 to summarise - this is today a mess on the NAS (more so on the DUO than the PRO and absolutely nothing to do with the SC people) and I for one don't want to start hacking my NAS at this point, I'll use 0.9a instead, follow the thread and wait until a proven solution emerges for AAC support. I'd like the chance to see if the quality improvement is great. But other Netgear NAS users may want to lead the way - if so please do post either here or on that thread. -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Version 0.9a is now available which contains two minor changes: 1) It detects if your server supports aac and if not falls back to wma/mp3 2) It provides better support for presets on 7.4 As per discussion above. If you want to override 1) and always use the non aac streams, then disable aac decoding on the server files types menu. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Triode;453121 Wrote: > I will make it so that wma/mp3 is used when aac is not available, if > you disable the aac file type this will allow it to fall back to wma, > but I was trying to avoid having a settings page for this plugin. Thanks Triode - this sounds just the job, and I agree it would be better not to have a settings page. Any idea when this will be available? (now ain't that just like a user - mention a feature, and they want it yesterday...) -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Triode;453138 Wrote: > It doesn't this has changed in 7.4 to allow differnt presets per player. Thanks. Having been a very happy user of 7.3.3 since I upgraded to Snow Leopard yesterday, I'm clearly ignorant of a lot of the new features in both iPlayer and 7.4! Having read the other thread, you've clearly put in a lot of work to get AAC working - please ignore my laggard comments about WMA. I'll be staying on 7.3.4/0.7 for the time being, but when 7.4 gets a little more stable for (my) general consumption I'm sure the experience of 0.9 (or whatever it is by then) will be just a good. Thanks again for a great plugin - and keep up the good work! Chippy -- Chippy Chippy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Chippy;453136 Wrote: > > And last night's 7.4 didn't even let me assign preset numbers to > favourites! > It doesn't this has changed in 7.4 to allow differnt presets per player. If you are using the latest 7.4, then to set the presets go the the relavent menu on the player where you would have pressed play to play the stream and press and hold the preset until it says the preset is set. This is now entirely separate from the web interface. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
I'm using a Mac. I guess anything's going to be slower than the almost "instant on" that I'm used to. Although to be fair, the "favourites" issue may have clouded my judgement on this one - I didn't do much testing after I hit that issue and quickly reverted back to 0.7. And last night's 7.4 didn't even let me assign preset numbers to favourites! Chippy -- Chippy Chippy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
The start up time for trascoding is slower on a windows server than a linux one - so suspect you are using windows? If you want to use wma streams for live streaming, then you could also use the BBC streams which are part of the Other radio streams menus which are the wma streams. I will make it so that wma/mp3 is used when aac is not available, if you disable the aac file type this will allow it to fall back to wma, but I was trying to avoid having a settings page for this plugin. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Understood - thanks. I would personally prefer if we had the option to choose streams in future versions - since I generally listen to "talk" stations (Five Live and Sports Extra) the super fast startup time is of much greater value than slightly better audio quality. Of course, those that listen to BBC music radio may have a different opinion. cheers Chippy -- Chippy Chippy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
0.7 uses WMA for the live streams, 0.9 uses FlashAAC which are potentially better quality but may take longer to start up due to additional transcoding. Favorite issues for 0.9 should be fixed with 7.4 when it is released. I will look at falling back to wma if aac can't be played for live streams. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
0.7 works great for me. I take back what I said about radio startup taking less than 2 seconds - it's less than 1! :) Using 0.9 had caused me problems with favourites, but also took much longer to start playing the radio stream, and occasionally failed when trying. Forgive my ignorance - I don't know if this is transcode related or not. I just know that 0.7 gives a great user experience. Thanks again Chippy -- Chippy Chippy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
trautigan;453068 Wrote: > I wanted something that runs quietly in the background, uses little > resources (environmental and system),but yet is fully featured. You should try a Mac Mini - reportedly uses less than 13 Watts, and mine is almost silent ;) http://www.apple.com/macmini/ Chippy -- Chippy Chippy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Yet it was the very "low-powered" feature that attracted me to the NAS - I want something that runs quietly in the background, uses little resources (environmental and system),but yet is fully featured. Low power ain't always a bad thing - it may even be the future. Couldn't there be an option switch in the iPlayer plugin so that the user could choose between AAC and MP3? Or maybe the plugin could choose automatically (if AAC fails then default to MP3) Or is that a lot of work? I'm a big fan of this plugin and it does seem a shame to have to go backwards. I'm guessing it's pointless talking to the Netgear people if the raw horsepower isn't there... -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Transcoding should work fine on leopard / snow leopard. Its only low powered nas's which don't have the cpu power to transcode. Can you try the aac stream Bryan posted above to prove whether that plays when you add it into the tune in entry on the web home page. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
I have the same issue - having just upgraded to Mac OS X Snow Leopard, I thought the problem was related to that. I must have updated from an older version of iPlayer to 0.9 without realising. The ability to use favourites is a killer feature on the Boom. It means I can go from 'standby' to listening to Radio 5 Live in about 2 seconds - including all buffering. It's pretty amazing when compared to other "internet radios". (Yes, I'm looking at you Pure Evoke Flow...) Thanks for posting the 0.7 link. I'll give it a shot... Chippy -- Chippy Chippy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Triode;453036 Wrote: > Hum - didn't plan for people wanting the old version because they could > not transcode. Its available for manual download and install from: > > http://triodeplugins.googlecode.com/files/BBCiPlayer-v0.7.zip didn't know I had kit that couldn't transcode. Thanks. -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Hum - didn't plan for people wanting the old version because they could not transcode. Its available for manual download and install from: http://triodeplugins.googlecode.com/files/BBCiPlayer-v0.7.zip -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
bpa;453031 Wrote: > I think on 0.4 you were listening to the MP3 streams not the AAC. The > main point to recent updates to iPlayer was to get access to the better > quality AAC streams. > > To listen to the live stations you do not need iPlayer - just use the > WMA URls as provided by menu Internet Radio/ More Radio/ BBC on 7.3 or > on 7.4 the BBC app for My Apps. These play native on players and even > work using Squeezenetwork. I agree with that - but I was also able to use the Listen Again feature of iPlayer before, which is the main feature I am interested in. So - can I get back to 0.4? If not, then this upgrade is actually a retrograde. -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
I think on 0.4 you were listening to the MP3 streams not the AAC. The main point to recent updates to iPlayer was to get access to the better quality AAC streams. To listen to the live stations you do not need iPlayer - just use the WMA URls as provided by menu Internet Radio/ More Radio/ BBC on 7.3 or on 7.4 the BBC app for My Apps. These play native on players and even work using Squeezenetwork. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Yes, they are greyed out - so what's the work round? How do I go back to 0.4 which worked fine? -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
I don't think there is AAC support on ReadyNas - the BBC streams need to be transcoded and I think the ReadyNas is not powerful enough to do it. Check WebUI Settings/FileTypes/ AAC - if they are all greyed out then there is no support. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Here's some log file entries (which I've had to edit in order to post - which is a pain) relating to the previous post - does this suggest a permissions problem? 2009-08-30 10:12:55 squeezecenter_safe started. [09-08-30 10:13:38.7209] main::init (270) Starting SqueezeCenter (v7.3.3, r27044, Mon Jun 15 15:19:30 PDT 2009) [09-08-30 10:17:37.3525] Slim::Player::Song::open (341) Error: Couldn't create command line for aac playback for [rtmp://cp61420.live.edgefcs.net:1935?icon=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY28udWsvaXBsYXllci9pbWcvcmFkaW8vYmJjX3JhZGlvX29uZS5naWY=&app=bGl2ZT9fZmNzX3Zob3N0PWNwNjE0MjAubGl2ZS5lZGdlZmNzLm5ldCZhdXRoPWRiRWNOY3lhLmFmY3hhVWFsZEVjSmFxYmFjQWFPY09jdGF0LWJrTUo0RC1jMC1kMGlfLUtwcERDbkJwSUJ0RW96QyZhaWZwPXYwMDEmc2xpc3Q9UmFkaW9fMV9VS0BzNjQzOQ==&ttl=MTI1MTYyMzg2Ng==&subscribe=UmFkaW9fMV9VS0BzNjQzOT9hdXRoPWRiRWNOY3lhLmFmY3hhVWFsZEVjSmFxYmFjQWFPY09jdGF0LWJrTUo0RC1jMC1kMGlfLUtwcERDbkJwSUJ0RW96QyZhaWZwPXYwMDE=&tcurl=cnRtcDovL2NwNjE0MjAubGl2ZS5lZGdlZmNzLm5ldDo4MC9saXZlP19mY3Nfdmhvc3Q9Y3A2MTQyMC5saXZlLmVkZ2VmY3MubmV0JmF1dGg9ZGJFY05jeWEuYWZjeGFVYWxkRWNKYXFiYWNBYU9jT2N0YXQtYmtNSjRELWMwLWQwaV8tS3BwRENuQnBJQnRFb3pDJmFpZnA9djAwMSZzbGlzdD1SYWRpb18xX1VLQHM2NDM5&swfurl=&streamname=UmFkaW9fMV9VS0BzNjQzOT9hdXRoPWRiRWNOY3lhLmFmY3hhVWFsZEVjSmFxYmFjQWFPY09jdGF0LWJrTUo0RC1jMC1kMGlfLUtwcERDbkJwSUJ0RW96QyZhaWZwPXYwMDE=&live=MQ==&url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY28udWsvbWVkaWFzZWxlY3Rvci80L210aXMvc3RyZWFtL2JiY19yYWRpb19vbmU=&update= UGx1Z2luczo6QkJDaVBsYXllcjo6QkJDTVNQYXJzZXI=&.aac] <<>>> [09-08-30 10:18:43.5100] Slim::Player::Song::open (341) Error: Couldn't create command line for aac playback for [rtmp://bbcmedia.fcod.llnwd.net:1935?icon=aHR0cDovL25vZGUxLmJiY2ltZy5jby51ay9pcGxheWVyL2ltYWdlcy9lcGlzb2RlL2IwMG1ieGJ3XzUxMl8yODguanBn&app=YTE0MTQvZTM=&ttl=MTI1MTYyMzkzMw==&duration=MTA4MDA=&tcurl=cnRtcDovL2JiY21lZGlhLmZjb2QubGxud2QubmV0OjE5MzUvYTE0MTQvZTM=&swfurl=&streamname=bXA0OnJhZGlvMi9zZWN1cmVfYXV0aC9SQk4yX3JhZGlvXzJfLV9zYXR1cmRheV8wMDAwX2IwMG1ieDNoXzIwMDlfMDhfMjlfMDJfMzlfMjg/cz0xMjUxNTc5Mjk2JmU9MTI1MTY2NTY5NiZoPTZmZTI3ZTg0YzdjYjA3YmVhMzViOGRkNWZmM2Q0OTgx&desc=Sm9pbmluZyBNYXJrIGluIHNlc3Npb24gYXJlIHZldGVyYW4gcm9ja2VycyBUaGUgQmxvY2toZWFkcy4=&url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY28udWsvbWVkaWFzZWxlY3Rvci80L210aXMvc3RyZWFtL2IwMG1ieDNo&update=UGx1Z2luczo6QkJDaVBsYXllcjo6QkJDTVNQYXJzZXI=&.aac] <<>>> [09-08-30 10:23:48.8285] Slim::Player::Song::open (341) Error: Couldn't create command line for aac playback for [rtmp://bbcmedia.fcod.llnwd.net:1935?icon=aHR0cDovL25vZGUxLmJiY2ltZy5jby51ay9pcGxheWVyL2ltYWdlcy9lcGlzb2RlL2IwMG05ejhtXzUxMl8yODguanBn&app=YTE0MTQvZTM=&ttl=MTI1MTYyNDIzOA==&duration=NzIwMA==&tcurl=cnRtcDovL2JiY21lZGlhLmZjb2QubGxud2QubmV0OjE5MzUvYTE0MTQvZTM=&swfurl=&streamname=bXA0OnJhZGlvMS9zZWN1cmVfYXV0aC9SQk4yX3JhZGlvXzFfLV9zdW5kYXlfMDEwMF9iMDBtOXo4Zl8yMDA5XzA4XzMwXzAyXzQ2XzEwP3M9MTI1MTU3OTYwMSZlPTEyNTE2NjYwMDEmaD04OWQ0NDRjYzIyZDhlZGFmMTBhOWM4NDk2MDM3NzAyNA==&desc=V2FsbCB0byB3YWxsIGRydW0gYW5kIGJhc3Mu&url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5 -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
ok, have rebooted the NAS (which I meant to say is a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo), as I thought there may be a caching problem and inconsistent versions. Now I have a consistent 0.9, but cannot play anything from the iPlayer - I get the message: Unable to play file type for anything from iPlayer (Listen Live or Listen Again) -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
If the player menu shows 0.4 then you may have two versions installed in different places. I suggest you remove all versions and prove that you can't see the plugin at all (in the player menu or web page), then reinstall. That message normally occurs when the server can't fetch the xml files from the bbc, but lets make sure you have a clean install first. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
I upgraded to 7.3.3 yesterday and 0.9 of iPlayer yesterday. Since then I get "failed to parse" on all the LISTEN LIVE stations on the iPlayer. When I check the version of iPlayer on the Boom it shows 0.4 though, although this may be a poissant rouge (i.e. maybe the version number just didn't get changed?). When I check the version number in SC Settings it shows 0.9 ok though. I've also upgraded the radio station timeout parameter to 40 secs, this has made no difference, applied, restarted. Any clues? Running on a NAS. -- trautigan trautigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
You don't need to remember the WMA URLs. The WMA URLs are the stream defined in BBC under Internet Radio/More Radio / BBC. BBC have said they will keep RealAudio and WMA URLs as well as the new iPLayer Flash MP3/AAC ones. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Okay, thanks. I'm using 7.3.3. Glad I kept the old favorite hanging around. Just have to hope the Been don't turn the old streams off. -- knigma knigma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
You may find this works with 7.4 and not 7.3 servers. Though I would be interesed in feedback from people on how well this works. The issue is that iplayer uses dynamic urls so we can't just store the url in favorites. 7.4 has the added complexity that favorites and preset buttons are now different and I am not sure all cases are covered at present. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
For alarms it might be better to use the WMA stream URL. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer 0.9 and favorites
Hi, If I add a favorite for the Live Radio 4 stream from the Internet Radio menu the favorite works for a while but some later fails until I create a new favorite. Means I cannot use it for the alarm clock. Does anyone else see this? -- knigma knigma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67151 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
