Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2019-03-16 Thread bpa


castalla wrote: 
> That's a sobering thought!
Sobering but surely not a surprise. No guarantees.  The BBC plans seems
to change at short notice.  
A new public API supposed to be available in 2015 - seems to have
stalled.  
The API that was supposed to die in 2017 seems to be part of the basis
for BBC Sounds.
BBC wanted higher quality audio  but now pushes MP3 podcasts.

BBC is buffetted by technology, social trends and a fickle parliament
and tries to find a path.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2019-03-16 Thread castalla


bpa wrote: 
> ... but even the BBCiPlayer plugin's lifespan is not guaranteed.

That's a sobering thought!



LMS server: Pi Zero

Amp: Denon PMA-50

Players/Speakers:  Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam,
Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google
Home Mini, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler

Brexit =   stupidity




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2019-03-16 Thread bpa


halasz wrote: 
> I may be wrong but it seems some already are (although perhaps some
> programs just aren't available on listen again).  For example listen
> again for "The Life Scientific" on Radio 4 gives this :.

For some unknown reason, the BBC have made some broadcasted programs
only available as podcasts not available as HDS, DASH or HLS even though
full URLs for DASH and HLS have been provided in the "Listen Again" XML
feed. .  The "Life Scientiific" is one of the few,  other examples
include "Fighting talk " on 5live or when being broadcast "The infinite
Monkey cage".  The LMS BBCiPlayer plugin in 1.6.3 finds the podcast
automagically so user doesn't notice the problem except by looking at
audio format (mp3 vs aac). 

To make a fix to the BBCRadio Applet to automate finding podcasts for
such programs would take too much effort.  I suggest just use the
Mysqueezebox Podcast App and add the BBC podcast URL
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/opml/bbc_podcast_opml.opml

>From the BBC "deprecated" note in the "6" URLs - it is likely the
BBCRadioApplet has a limited life and if you really want BBCiplayer
functionality you should consider implementing a small LMS server (e.g.
Raspberry Pi with Picore) but even the BBCiPlayer plugin's lifespan is
not guaranteed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2019-03-16 Thread halasz


bpa wrote: 
> However there are two worrying points.
> 1. How long will server keep responding to "5" version of "mediaset/pc"
> URLsI may be wrong but it seems some already are (although perhaps some
programs just aren't available on listen again).  For example listen
again for "The Life Scientific" on Radio 4 gives this :


Code:

Mar 16 10:36:10 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - 
BBCRadioApplet.lua:644 url: 
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/6/redir/version/2.0/vpid/m00035tb/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http
  Mar 16 10:36:10 squeezeplay: DEBUG  applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:646 
vpid :m00035tb
  Mar 16 10:36:10 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:649 
modded url: 
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/vpid/m00035tb/mediaset/pc
  Mar 16 10:36:10 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:666 
spdrver: 1
  Mar 16 10:36:11 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:766 
could not find playable stream



This isn't surprising as opening the modded url in browser shows 
Code:


  
  
  



Most things are working with this new version though for which I'm very
grateful.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2019-03-15 Thread bpa


Just to document, what I discovered when looking to repair Applet after
latest BBC change and the changes I have made in the BBCRadioApplet.lua
file.

BBCRadioApplet plays "Listen Again" programs in FlashAAC via Adobe HDS
streams.  BBC only shows HLS and DASH for Listen again in the BBC normal
"mediaset" URLs provided in the "Listen Again" XML feed..   The HDS
stream is "found" by modifying the "mediaset" URL to be a "mediaset/pc"
URL.   The BBC have stopped using the "mediaset/pc" URLs in their web
interface for a good while and I think they are only supported for
legacy browsers who cannot play DASH stream via a Javascript player.

Up to recently, the "Listen Again" XML feed provided the "5" version of
these URLs for programs and after the recent BBC update it now provides
the "6" versions. As an example, these are DASH and HLS URLs
respectively for m00035j9

Code:


  
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/6/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-syndication-dash/proto/http/vpid/m00035j9
  
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/6/redir/version/2.0/vpid/m00035j9/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http
  


There is no content difference in the BBC server response from the above
"5" and "6" URLs - the response format is different as it depends on the
"transferformat" implied by the request - DASH and HLS and doesn't
change between "5" & "6"

When the HLS "6" URL is modified to become a "mediaset/pc" URL for BBC
Radio Applet Adobe HDS - the response is in JSON format whereas the same
request to "5" is in XML format - same content but in a different
format.  This is a big change.  The BBC Radio Applet expects XML format
and cannot handle JSON.  Luckily the BBC server still responds to "5"
request and so BBCRadio Applet will still work.

However there are two worrying points.
1. How long will server keep responding to "5" version of "mediaset/pc"
URLs
2. In the JSON response to a "6" version of "mediaset/pc",  the JSON
content indicates that the HDS stream are "deprecated

This means the HDS stream from BBC are likely to stop at some point in
the "near" future. Podcast would be the alternative when that happen as
BBC provides podcasts of many but not all programs.

Separately, When checking out the "6" URLs issue, I found the 2015 fix
has been concatenating all "link" URLs from the XML feed entry for a
program.  This was OK when there was only one "link" URL but with DASH
and HLS there are two so it has been a bit fo a fluke that
BBCRadioApplet.lua has been working OK in the last 2 years.

I have fixed up the Live streams to play MP3 just to be have working
menus. My Lua skills are limited and my knowledge of Jive is not good
enough  to implement getting metadata similar tot he BBCiPlayer plugin. 
I fixed up the station logo image URLs but they don't seem to work.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2019-03-15 Thread bpa


Attached is a zip file to replace the Applet BBCRadioApplet.lua file.  
The update deal with the recent issue (a BBC update) which broke "Listen
Again".  The replacement file also fixes the "live" stream by playing
MP3 streams but no station logos or metadata. 

To update, downlooad the attached file and unzip and then using scp to
replace BBCRadioApplet.lua in the Touch.  The copy to the TouchRadio
location "/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/"

You can use scp to do this. First find the IP address of the Touch/Radio
and make sure Touch?Radio supports remote login. For example if the
Touch/Radio was at 192.168.1.65, then the followingcommand will worjk.
If a password is requested by Touch/radio  then use "1234"

Code:


  scp   BBCRadioApplet.lua 
root@192.168.1.65:/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua
  



If you have a newer linux system,  Touch/radio are quite old and some of
the default security choices are not supported by Touch/radio and so old
algoritms have to be specified with an scp command with the following
example.


Code:


  scp -oKexAlgorithms=+diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 -caes128-cbc   
BBCRadioApplet.lua 
root@192.168.1.65:/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua
  



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2019-03-14 Thread bpa


Definitely the "6" is an issue but testing Applet with Squeezeplay is
showing up another error with the BBC program URL.  Not sure if this is
Squeezeplay specici or whether Touch also has the error.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread bpa


ChaoticMike wrote: 
> Thanks again.  It would appear BBC have a fairly cavalier approach to
> APIs, then?  I suppose they are coming at it from the "we've got them,
> you want them and we aren't under any SLA or obligation to maintain them
> to an agreed description" point of view.  Which I can sort of understand
> but obviously makes your life harder than it needs to be...
> 
> Thanks again...

This time it's not really BBC action but they are using a 3rd party
package which has made a slight change which is still valid HLS (i.e new
HLS stream plays OK in VLC & ffmpeg) but the BBCiPlayer plugin
implementation of HLS is not complete and so will need a change to
support this small change.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


Thanks again.  It would appear BBC have a fairly cavalier approach to
APIs, then?  I suppose they are coming at it from the "we've got them,
you want them and we aren't under any SLA or obligation to maintain them
to an agreed description" point of view.  Which I can sort of understand
but obviously makes your life harder than it needs to be...

Thanks again...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread bpa


ChaoticMike wrote: 
> And we have a winner!  Thanks!
> 
> Depends what you mean by recently!  I had an issue with LA about 2 or 3
> months ago, and you recommended then that I should upgrade to 1.6, which
> I did.  I have no knowledge or understanding of the various CODEC
> preferences, and therefore didn't even know there was some form of Apple
> weirdness in there.

The change to 1.6 was necessary to fix the last BBC issue - the settings
seems to be from the 1.3 era of the plugin - so advice was just enough
to keep you going and not complicate things.

Not using DASH meant you didn't have "features" of DASH which include
jumping to specific points in a "Listen Again" or Skip back in Live
streams.

Looks like BBC have made a small change with HLS and this has broken
BBCiPlayer Plugin HLS processing.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


bpa wrote: 
> Did you just migrate from an older version of plugin ? 
> 
> The program doesn't play in HLS but plays OK in DASH so please change
> the BBCiPlayer setting to 
> DASH > HLS > MP3 > FlashAAC
> 
> 
> I can't maintain the HLS stuff as I don't have any Apple gear and I
> don't know whether the problem is a BBC one or a plugin one.


And we have a winner!  Thanks!

Depends what you mean by recently!  I had an issue with LA about 2 or 3
months ago, and you recommended then that I should upgrade to 1.6, which
I did.  I have no knowledge or understanding of the various CODEC
preferences, and therefore didn't even know there was some form of Apple
weirdness in there.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread bpa


ChaoticMike wrote: 
> Is it worth saying that I usually control things with SqueezeControl
> from an Android phone?  But for the purposes of elimination, I'm driving
> everything from the LMS web GUI.25807

Did you just migrate from an older version of plugin ? 

The program doesn't play in HLS but plays OK in DASH so please change
the BBCiPlayer setting to 
DASH > HLS > MP3 > FlashAAC

I can't maintain the HLS stuff as I don't have any Apple gear and I
don't know whether the problem is a BBC one or a plugin one.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


bpa wrote: 
> What player ?Either Duet players, or a Boom.  Neither works.
> Are you pretending to be in UK using a VPN ?  No, I'm a totally legal,
> licence-fee paying upstanding member of the public
> Exactly what menu sequence (e.g. Home->Radio->BBC iPlayer->BBC Radio 4
> FM ->15 Minute Drama-> xyxyx Episode 3 )  did you use ? (so I can
> replicate) Home/My Apps/BBC iPlayer/BBC Radio 4 FM/Friday 12-Oct/18:30
> The News Quiz: Series 97: Episode 7/ - which shows me a URI of
> " 
> iplayer://aod?hls=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/mpf7/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-syndication-dash/proto/http/vpid/mpf7=1800=http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/512x288/p06nn93v.jpg=The%20Ne;
> in the web browser
> What are your LMS BBCiPlayer Settings ?
Is it worth saying that I usually control things with SqueezeControl
from an Android phone?  But for the purposes of elimination, I'm driving
everything from the LMS web GUI.25807


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread bpa


ChaoticMike wrote: 
> I am running 1.6, and also have the repo registered.  I just set the
> 'automatically update plugins' check box and restarted LMS.  The web
> interface shows me 'playing' a LA track, but there is silence.  Any
> ideas?  :-)
> Also, thanks so much for the work you do here.
> Mike

What player ?
Are you pretending to be in UK using a VPN ?
Exactly what menu sequence (e.g. Home->Radio->BBC iPlayer->BBC Radio 4
FM ->15 Minute Drama-> xyxyx Episode 3 )  did you use ? (so I can
replicate) 
What are your LMS BBCiPlayer Settings ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


I am running 1.6, and also have the repo registered.  I just set the
'automatically update plugins' check box and restarted LMS.  The web
interface shows me 'playing' a LA track, but there is silence.  Any
ideas?  :-)
Also, thanks so much for the work you do here.
Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread bpa


halasz wrote: 
> I couldn't manage by searching to find what this change is for - either
> seem to work and the radio seems to act the same either case so perhaps
> I didn't check the correct function.  
> 
> It is just for my curiosity - I do appreciate you all keeping this
> updated.

I'll have a look back - I don't use the Applet and so was just applying
the fix for Listen Again. The issue there was to do with "Live" - IIRC
"Live " had broken before because BBC changed formats away from Flash to
AAC or MP3  but I didn't look further.  Users can get working "live"
streams from Tunein or LMS supplied BBC App (not Applet)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread bpa


ChaoticMike wrote: 
> Hi, my Max2play-powered installation has also stopped working on iPlayer
> Listen Again, with the same symptoms as halasz. All used to be fine, but
> the zip file referenced above
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109446-BBCiplayer-play-it-again-list-shows-404=921098=1#post921098
> seems to predate this latest bust, and I think it is already installed.
> Am I missing something obvious? 
> Thx. 
> Mike

The zip is for the BBCiPlayer Applet which is installed in Touch and
Radio.
Are you running the BBCiPlayer LMS plugin (i.e NOT the Applet) - in
which case you need to use BBCiPlayer 1.6.  If you are using the LMS
plugin then you may need to update the repository URL in the Plugin tab
of LMS Settings.

*http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml*



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


Hi, my Max2play-powered installation has also stopped working on iPlayer
Listen Again, with the same symptoms as halasz. All used to be fine, but
the zip file referenced above
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109446-BBCiplayer-play-it-again-list-shows-404=921098=1#post921098
seems to predate this latest bust, and I think it is already installed.
Am I missing something obvious? 
Thx. 
Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-15 Thread halasz


Thanks both, all working fine now.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-14 Thread bpa


The applet fix as a zip file can be found here 
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109446-BBCiplayer-play-it-again-list-shows-404=921098=1#post921098



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-14 Thread Paul Webster


bbc_radio_one.xml - BBC Radio 1
bbc_1xtra.xml - BBC 1Xtra
bbc_radio_two.xml - BBC Radio 2
bbc_6music.xml - BBC 6Music
bbc_radio_three.xml - BBC Radio 3
bbc_radio_fourfm.xml - BBC Radio 4 FM
bbc_radio_fourlw.xml - BBC Radio 4 LW
bbc_radio_four_extra.xml - BBC Radio 4 Extra
bbc_radio_five_live.xml - BBC Radio 5live
bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra.xml - BBC Radio 5live Sports Extra
bbc_asian_network.xml - BBC AsianNetwork

bbc_radio_nan_gaidheal.xml - BBC Radio nan Gaidheal (aka Alba)
bbc_radio_scotland_fm.xml - BBC Radio Scotland
bbc_radio_ulster.xml - BBC Radio Ulster
bbc_radio_foyle.xml - BBC Radio Foyle
bbc_radio_wales_fm.xml - BBC Radio Wales
bbc_radio_cymru.xml - BBC Radio Cymru



Paul Webster
http://dabdig.blogspot.com
Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2016-01-03 Thread NickEJM

I can advise that the BBC Radio Applet Listen Again is working perfectly
this morning. Thanks to all for their wise advice and help.





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2016-01-02 Thread bpa

The BBC internet radio services are still in a mess and many valid
requests are being refused.  If the Applet was workgin before Christmas
- then I'd wait andnot do anything until BBC sorts out their issues.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-12-31 Thread NickEJM

I have solved my listen live problem by retuning to tunein radio
feed...so just leaves the listen again applet.





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-12-31 Thread Man in a van

NickEJM wrote: 
> Since yesterday I am no longer able to listen to BBC stations apart from
> R4 on my UE Squeeze  Box Radio. I am not very technical but managed to
> upgrade the BBC Listen Again Applet with the help of BPA. Is there
> another work around? Thanks for any help.

Is there any reason not to upgrade the UE to Squeezebox radio and then
do the "DASH" upgrade of your LMS?

atb

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-12-31 Thread mberger

The BBC are having problems at the moment. If you have lost services
only recently I wouldn't panic until they have sorted themselves out.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-12-31 Thread bpa

Man in a van wrote: 
> Is there any reason not to upgrade the UE to Squeezebox radio and then
> do the "DASH" upgrade of your LMS?

IIRC the OP does not use an LMS server just radio (already upgraded to
SB) and mysb.com



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-12-31 Thread NickEJM

Since yesterday I am no longer able to listen to BBC stations apart from
R4 on my UE Squeeze  Box Radio. I am not very technical but managed to
upgrade the BBC Listen Again Applet with the help of BPA. Is there
another work around? Thanks for any help.





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-12-31 Thread bpa

NickEJM wrote: 
> I have solved my listen live problem by retuning to tunein radio
> feed...so just leaves the listen again applet.

IIRC Since last Feb the live feeds on the BBC Applet have been broken so
you use the Logitech BBC app (under My Apps) to play live BBC stream
(MP3 format).

What do you mean "so just leaves listen applet" - just leaves the listen
again working or not working ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-04-29 Thread Jonathan*

castalla wrote: 
 Yes.  Radio will reboot - then you can ssh in and copy the lua file
 across

Hello. First time I've posted on any Touch forum, and unlike most
posters here, I've very little understanding of IT DIY when it comes to
changing things in the SBT. Used to listen mainly to R3 HD listen again
streams, but obviously can't any more. Live in UK

Have tried to enter the new codes as kindy supplied by BPA in his first
post. To do this, I'm using the same method as when I tried to install
soundcheck's touch toolbox 3 a year or so ago: winscp and putty - both
of which I still have on my laptop. Following soundcheck's detailed
instructions for that was problem free for me (if time consuming). For
this lua file, I've done the same - and I get as far as typing in 'ls'
in the putty window and up comes the bbc radio applet lua file to show
me it has been copied across... but I don't know what to do next -
i.e. presumably there is another command I need to type in to get the
SBT to ingest the new code. Tried i for initialise - but that doesn't
work. 

It seems to need some extra command of some kind after ls because
after I've exited and closed the putty session, and rebooted the SBT,
it's as if nothing has happened. I still can't connnect to LA using
Triodes the BBC Radio 3 applet

Any guidance gratefully received

Jonathan

PS - don't know if it is relevant but I am no longer using TT3 as I like
to use the SBT as a standalone player for all Radio and Audio files



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-04-29 Thread Jonathan*

Ah - I now see I have posted before. Forgive the short-term memory loss.
Must be my age!

Forgot to add the obvious, but just to avoid misunderstanding - all the
above done with ssh enabled on the SBT
J



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-04-29 Thread rep24

bpa wrote: 
 The patch is change to the Applet code that runs inside Radio / Touch.
 The BBC change their URLs and this patch allows Radio.Touch to find the
 Flash URL again.  Unfortunately BBC are committed to turning off the
 Flash URL at some time in the near future so this patch is buying time.
 
 The patch was provided as quick fix and feedback was needed to see if it
 works.  The hope is that a new version update to the Applet would be
 made if Triode does not come back online.
 
 ssh is a secure way to log into the Radio and Touch.  scp is a
 secure way to copy files between say PC and Radio./Touch.
 
 ssh and scp are available on Linxu systems.
 
 If your PC is Windows you will need pscp part of putty package  (see  
 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html  and
 http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.64/htmldoc/Chapter5.html#pscp) 
 
 To enable ssh on Radio / Touch - on Radio / Touch go to Settings /
 Advanced / Remote Login and enable the Enable SSH  check box.  Device
 will then tell you the IP address and password which will use with the
 scp/pscp command.

Thanks bpa for clarifying how I do this from my Windows PC, I have now
got Listen Again working on my Touch and I'm very happy!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-30 Thread chrisinparis

castalla wrote: 
 You're confusing the BBC app (from Logitech) with the BBC Radio applet -
 that's installable via Settings - Advanced - Applet Installer.

I do this on the Radio itself, right?
Settings - Advanced - Applet Installer.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-30 Thread castalla

chrisinparis wrote: 
 I do this on the Radio itself, right?
 Settings - Advanced - Applet Installer.

Yes.  Radio will reboot - then you can ssh in and copy the lua file
across



Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
Logitech UE Smart Radio
Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite
Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100
bluetooth speaker
O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers 
IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth
speaker
Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1  Vistron internet radio (Reciva)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-29 Thread chrisinparis

I have the iPlayer app for my Radio and tried uninstalling and then
reinstalling the app (via the http://mysqueezebox.com/), but however I
find no BBC at all after ssh'ing my radio:


Code:

# find / -iname bbc
  find: /mnt/overlay: Operation not permitted
  find: /proc/1485: No such file or directory
  # uname -a
  Linux SqueezeboxRadio 2.6.26.8-rt16 #1 PREEMPT RT Fri Feb 14 09:02:51 PST 
2014 armv5tejl GNU/Linux



Also I just have live feeds - is it because I am not in the UK?  Anyway
I got the BBC plugins working again this evening thanks to the sterling
work of forum members!  Just find it curious that I cannot find any
trace of the app...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-29 Thread castalla

chrisinparis wrote: 
 I have the iPlayer app for my Radio and tried uninstalling and then
 reinstalling the app (via the http://mysqueezebox.com/), but however I
 find no BBC at all after ssh'ing my radio:
 
  
Code:

  # find / -iname bbc
   find: /mnt/overlay: Operation not permitted
   find: /proc/1485: No such file or directory
   # uname -a
   Linux SqueezeboxRadio 2.6.26.8-rt16 #1 PREEMPT RT Fri Feb 14 09:02:51 PST 
2014 armv5tejl GNU/Linux

  
 
 Also I just have live feeds - is it because I am not in the UK? 
 Anyway I got the BBC plugins working again this evening thanks to the
 sterling work of forum members!  Just find it curious that I cannot
 find any trace of the app...

You're confusing the BBC app (from Logitech) with the BBC Radio applet -
that's installable via Settings - Advanced - Applet Installer.



Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
Logitech UE Smart Radio
Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite
Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100
bluetooth speaker
O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers 
IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth
speaker
Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1  Vistron internet radio (Reciva)
Pure One Flow

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-26 Thread Man in a van

bpa wrote: 
 There is a Logitech App for BBC Radio with updated streams. I think you
 need to uninstall and then reinstall to get the update.
 
 
 
 Most of the time OSX is like Linux so I'd try the scp command detailed
 in post 1


bpa,

Thanks, when you say -*For example using scp from current directory *-
does that mean any specific file location or does he just download and
unzip the file to the Desktop and then open Terminal and type in the
command?

I'm asking because I would like to understand a bit more of the magic
and also because when I tried the command line route in Putty I got the
message that there was no such file (that's why I used WinScp).

It's a great job your doing, thanks a lot.

atb

Ronnie.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-26 Thread bpa

Man in a van wrote: 
 Thanks, when you say -*For example using scp from current directory *-
 does that mean any specific file location or does he just download and
 unzip the file to the Desktop and then open Terminal and type in the
 command?

Like all advice, if the user is not familiar with command they should
read the all the help relevant to their system to ensure they understand
what is being advised and that they are not going to do anything
detrimental to their system.

I do not know OSX in detail, it behaves like Linux but at times it has
quirks which can cause problems.  It is up to the user to check that my
advice is correct for their system.

On the assumption it is like Linux. 

scp copies files from one location to another.  

In this case the downloaded and unzipped .lua source file is on the
local system (i.e. OSX) and the destination is the Touch/Radio.

When using the scp command if the source file is just a name (i.e no
full or partial directory path) then the scp will look for the file in
the current directory. 

So for the example given in post 1, the downloaded and unzipped lua file
must be in the current directory of the shell running in the Terminal
window.
If the downloaded and unzipped lua file is not  in the current directory
of the shell running in the Terminal window, then the user must provide
the directory path of the source file as well as the source file name in
the scp command

You can check what files are in the current directory by using the ls
command.

You can check what is the current directory by using the pwd command.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-26 Thread danco

Man in a van wrote: 
 Thanks bpa, I have just done this on my Touch and the listen again is
 BONA!
 
 It's a pity that the live streams don't work.
 
 Now, I used WinScp to transfer the file but I have a friend with one of
 those Apple products, how would I instruct him to perform the
 necessary?
 
 Would he use Terminal? and what would the commands be?
 
 If someone could help with this information I would appreciate it.
 
 atb
 
 ronnie.

There's a clever trick with Terminal on a Mac.

Dragging a file from a Finder window into the Terminal window
automatically enters its full path. Saves a lot of time and trouble.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-25 Thread Man in a van

Thanks bpa, I have just done this on my Touch and the listen again is
BONA!

It's a pity that the live streams don't work.

Now, I used WinScp to transfer the file but I have a friend with one of
those Apple products, how would I instruct him to perform the necessary?

Would he use Terminal? and what would the commands be?

If someone could help with this information I would appreciate it.

atb

ronnie.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-25 Thread bpa

Man in a van wrote: 
 It's a pity that the live streams don't work.
There is a Logitech App for BBC Radio with updated streams.

 Would he use Terminal? and what would the commands be?

Most of the time OSX is like Linux so I'd try the scp command detailed
in post 1



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-24 Thread bpa

dcassidy wrote: 
 Quick question, I presume only the latest episode is available for EACH
 radio show..
 
 For example: On Radio 2 Bob Harris Ultimate Playlist will play just
 grand but it only offers (curretly at the time of writing) Episode 2
 eventhough through the BBC Website Episode 1 is still available to
 listen.

Triode's BBC iPlayer Applet for Touch/Radio and BBCiPlayer plugin for
LMS both use the official BBC XML feed to provide program info.  The BBC
currently only provides info on the last 7 days programming on the XML
feed unlike the BBC Website which has 30 days of programming.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-24 Thread dcassidy

Quick question, I presume only the latest episode is available for EACH
radio show..

For example: On Radio 2 Bob Harris Ultimate Playlist will play just
grand but it only offers (curretly at the time of writing) Episode 2
eventhough through the BBC Website Episode 1 is still available to
listen.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-24 Thread NickEJM

bpa wrote: 
 The patch is change to the Applet code that runs inside Radio / Touch.
 The BBC change their URLs and this patch allows Radio.Touch to find the
 Flash URL again.  Unfortunately BBC are committed to turning off the
 Flash URL at some time in the near future so this patch is buying time.
 
 The patch was provided as quick fix and feedback was needed to see if it
 works.  The hope is that a new version update to the Applet would be
 made if Triode does not come back online.
 
 ssh is a secure way to log into the Radio and Touch.  scp is a
 secure way to copy files between say PC and Radio./Touch.
 
 ssh and scp are available on Linxu systems.
 
 If your PC is Windows you will need pscp part of putty package  (see  
 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html  and
 http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.64/htmldoc/Chapter5.html#pscp) 
 
 To enable ssh on Radio / Touch - on Radio / Touch go to Settings /
 Advanced / Remote Login and enable the Enable SSH  check box.  Device
 will then tell you the IP address and password which will use with the
 scp/pscp command.

Thanks to bpa for his help in making the patch process very easy for
those who have little knowledge of such processes and for his help in
making a slight amendment to the command prompt which has now worked for
me through windows. 
pscp -scp BBCRadioApplet.lua
root@192.168.1.4:/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua

It's great to have the listen again feature back on the radio.

Nick



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-24 Thread dcassidy

Many thanks for clarfying this ..perfect explanation !!!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-16 Thread gerryt

bpa wrote: 
 I've uploaded a new version in post #1.
 
 This seemed to be caused by program with multiple version of different
 bitrate.  Not common outside the UK.
 Out of curiousity - did this problem mainly happen with regional station
 such as Scotland, Wales etc. or with R1, R2 etc.

Brilliant! That works fine for all stations I've tried, many thanks. 
Previously it was failing for  everything I tried apart from R3,
including all
the stations you mention.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-15 Thread bpa

Another quick update - this one just brings back pictures



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-14 Thread bpa

gerryt wrote: 
 I thought this was working ok for me, on touch and radio in UK, until I
 realised I'd only tried  radio 3 - no  other stations do.
 
 Gerry

I've uploaded a new version in post #1.

This seemed to be caused by program with multiple version of different
bitrate.  Not common outside the UK.
Out of curiousity - did this problem mainly happen with regional station
such as Scotland, Wales etc. or with R1, R2 etc.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-13 Thread gerryt

gerryt wrote: 
 I thought this was working ok for me, on touch and radio in UK, until I
 realised I'd only tried  radio 3 - no  other stations do.
 
 Gerry

and /var/log/messages says:

Mar 13 16:05:14 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:619 sending play request to SlimServer {Squeezebox
Touch (USB)} player LocalPlayer {Squeezebox Touch} url
spdr://bbcmsparser?url=aHR0cDovL29wZW4ubGl2ZS5iYmMuY28udWsvbWVkaWFzZWxlY3Rvci81L3JlZGlyL3ZlcnNpb24vMi4wL3ZwaWQvYjA1bjdncXEvbWVkaWFzZXQvYXVkaW8tc3luZGljYXRpb24vcHJvdG8vaHR0cA==icon=aHR0cDovL25vZGUxLmJiY2ltZy5jby51ay9pcGxheWVyL2ltYWdlcy9lcGlzb2RlL2IwNTR0M3MyXzUxMl8yODguanBnartist=TWVsdnluIEJyYWdnIGFuZCBoaXMgZ3Vlc3RzIGRpc2N1c3MgZGFyayBtYXR0ZXIsIHRoZSAnbWlzc2luZyBtYXNzJyBvZiB0aGUgdW5pd
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay: INFO   audio.decode - Playback.lua:935
using custom handler bbcmsparser
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:637 url:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/b05n7gqq/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:640 modded url:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/vpid/b05n7gqq/mediaset/pc
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:656 spdrver: 1
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay: ERROR  net.http - RequestHttp.lua:71
Response sink:/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua:715:
attempt to index local 'b' (a nil value)
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay: stack traceback:
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay:
/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua:715: in function
/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua:713
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay:[C 0x5ffa5]: in function 'sort'
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay:
/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua:712: in function
/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua:706/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua:715:
attempt to index l
Mar 13 16:05:15 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.NowPlaying -
NowPlayingApplet.lua:422 enable volume UI in NP
Mar 13 16:05:32 squeezeplay: WARN   net.thread - NetworkThread.lua:146
network thread timeout for Task(SocketHttp
{fab4.squeezenetwork.com}(R))

Gerry



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-13 Thread gerryt

bpa wrote: 
 Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
 Applet.
 
 Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
 me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
 it is a good fix.
 
 ..
 
 

I thought this was working ok for me, on touch and radio in UK, until I
realised I'd only tried  radio 3 - no  other stations do.

Gerry



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-11 Thread Frank Duck

Please excuse ignorance-I only dive into this stuff when need be, and
since the Triode app has died for Play Again stuff on BBC-I'm now
obliged to try something.  Part of bpa's fix starts with Make sure you
can ssh login into Radio...  In plain English, what does that mean,
especially ssh?  
Then, are these changes to the underlying code in the BBC applet and is
this code accessible through a browser or do you do some thing else? 
Obviously I don't make my living in the bowels of this software!

Frank in Vancouver



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-11 Thread bpa

Frank Duck wrote: 
 Please excuse ignorance-I only dive into this stuff when need be, and
 since the Triode app has died for Play Again stuff on BBC-I'm now
 obliged to try something.  Part of bpa's fix starts with Make sure you
 can ssh login into Radio...  In plain English, what does that mean,
 especially ssh?  
 Then, are these changes to the underlying code in the BBC applet and is
 this code accessible through a browser or do you do some thing else? 
 Obviously I don't make my living in the bowels of this software!

The patch is change to the Applet code that runs inside Radio / Touch.
The BBC change their URLs and this patch allows Radio.Touch to find the
Flash URL again.  Unfortunately BBC are committed to turning off the
Flash URL at some time in the near future so this patch is buying time.

The patch was provided as quick fix and feedback was needed to see if it
works.  The hope is that a new version update to the Applet would be
made if Triode does not come back online.

ssh is a secure way to log into the Radio and Touch.  scp is a
secure way to copy files between say PC and Radio./Touch.

ssh and scp are available on Linxu systems.

If your PC is Windows you will need pscp part of putty package  (see  
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html  and
http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.64/htmldoc/Chapter5.html#pscp) 

To enable ssh on Radio / Touch - on Radio / Touch go to Settings /
Advanced / Remote Login and enable the Enable SSH  check box.  Device
will then tell you the IP address and password which will use with the
scp/pscp command.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-11 Thread bpa

majones wrote: 
 I may have got the wrong end of the stick, but does this mean that
 BBCiPlayer could access HDS streams without needing the PlayHLS plugin
 and ffmpeg?

Yes and no.

HDS cannot be played with PlayHLS and ffmpeg so you need a different
player in this case php (command line) and a script AdobeHDS.php
probably packaged as PlayHDS !! Oh Joy.

So then the choice will be which format to choose to rewrite into Perl
so that they can work on all platforms easily (but probably painful to
write and implement )  or rewrite into C in which case a build support
nightmare of platforms, kernel, glibc version etc.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-11 Thread majones

bpa wrote: 
 HDS cannot be played with PlayHLS and ffmpeg so you need a different
 player in this case php (command line) and a script AdobeHDS.php
 probably packaged as PlayHDS !! Oh Joy.
Full marks for discovering that! :cool:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-11 Thread majones

bpa wrote: 
 All is not lost I can play BBC HDS live streams.
 
 FYI The HDS live streams (non UK at least) include - I'm sure UK user
 can guess the UK equivalent and quality.
 
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_one.f4m
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_two.f4m
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_three.f4m
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.f4m
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_fourlw.f4m
I may have got the wrong end of the stick, but does this mean that
BBCiPlayer could access HDS streams without needing the PlayHLS plugin
and ffmpeg?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-10 Thread bpa

bpa wrote: 
 Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
 their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
 and mplayer cannot play it - perfect for BBC but don't worry I expect
 Apple won't allow an Adobe format player on their system

All is not lost I can play BBC HDS live streams.

FYI The HDS live streams (non UK at least) include - I'm sure UK user
can guess the UK equivalent and quality.

http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_one.f4m
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_two.f4m
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_three.f4m
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.f4m
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_fourlw.f4m



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-10 Thread TheLastMan

bpa wrote: 
 All is not lost I can play BBC HDS live streams.
 
 FYI The HDS live streams (non UK at least) include - I'm sure UK user
 can guess the UK equivalent and quality.
 
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_one.f4m
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_two.f4m
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_three.f4m
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.f4m
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_radio_fourlw.f4m

Play them on what hardware or OS? Windows, Linux, iOS or Android?
Just curious, I have the HLS live streams working fine via LMS on a
Raspberry Pi with Debian (Squeezeplug) thanks to your previous efforts -
for which deepest gratitude.

Sounds like the Beeb (and their advisers) have got themselves in a total
pickle! Hoist with their own Petard even.

They may have to revert to AAC over Shoutcast until they can release
streams that can be played on their iPlayer App on all the platforms it
is supposed to be available for.

BTW thanks for your *incredible* generosity with your time.  I hope you
are not neglecting your nearest and dearest!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-10 Thread bpa

TheLastMan wrote: 
 Play them on what hardware or OS? Windows, Linux,
Play in the context of LMS. Yes

BBC already uses them on the Flash based web page Radio playing Live

  iOS or Android?
Don't care.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-10 Thread TheLastMan

bpa wrote: 
  TheLastMan wrote: 
  Play them on what hardware or OS? Windows, Linux,  Play in the context of 
  LMS. Yes
Thanks for clarifying that.


iOS or Android?  Don't care.:)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-10 Thread castalla

ncameron wrote: 
 I have LMS on Windows 8.1 with multiple Squeezeboxes and Booms, but no
 Touch. I have no such directory structure as you describe, and I have no
 *.lua file anywhere on my had drive. Yet I use Triode's PlugIn and my
 Listen Again has also broken. Am I missing something obvious?

You're in the wrong thread!

Start here (later in thread):
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-10 Thread mrw

ncameron wrote: 
 Am I missing something obvious?

Quite probably. The BBC iPlayer applet runs on a Touch, or Radio, which
you do not seem to have.

There is a separate thread for the LMS BBC iPlayer plugin. I think
that's what you're after.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-10 Thread martback

Revised version works for listen again from outside UK. Thanks bpa for
your efforts.

- martin



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-10 Thread ncameron

bpa wrote: 
 Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
 Applet.
 
 Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
 me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
 it is a good fix.
 
 1. Download and unzip the file.
 2. Make sure you can ssh login into Radio/Touch
 3. So you can revert make a backup copy of the Radio/Touch file
 /usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua
 4. Copy the downloaded and unzipped file BBCRadioApplet.lua to
 Radio/Touch /usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua. 
 For example using scp from current directory assuming Touch/Radio is
 192.168.1.58
 scp BBCRadioApplet.lua
 root@192.168.1.58:/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua
 
 edit:
 
 New version of Lua file added to cope with latest BBC change.

I have LMS on Windows 8.1 with multiple Squeezeboxes and Booms, but no
Touch. I have no such directory structure as you describe, and I have no
*.lua file anywhere on my had drive. Yet I use Triode's PlugIn and my
Listen Again has also broken. Am I missing something obvious?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
 No a HDS stream (HDS is Adobe's version of chunked HTTP competes against
 Apple's HLS).
 
 The issue is RTMP (which is what Flash/AAC uses) is implemented in
 BBCiPlayer plugin and Applet to deliver Listen Again. The question I had
 was BBC couldn't move to HLS because PC browsers support Flash and not
 HLS.  It looks like BBC now have a Flash player which can play HDS
 streams so BBC could move from RTMP to HDS for Listen Again on PC
 browser and so break plugins and applet.

Oh dear  sounds like another can of worms, then.

What a BBC mess.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
 Sorry - you've lost me (again!)
 
 Oh - I see now - Live is getting an HLS stream.

No a HDS stream (HDS is Adobe's version of chunked HTTP competes against
Apple's HLS).

The issue is RTMP (which is what Flash/AAC uses) is implemented in
BBCiPlayer plugin and Applet to deliver Listen Again. The question I had
was BBC couldn't move to HLS because PC browsers support Flash and not
HLS.  It looks like BBC now have a Flash player which can play HDS
streams so BBC could move from RTMP to HDS for Listen Again on PC
browser and so break plugins and applet.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

majones wrote: 
 Presumably all programming post-RTMP will have HLS streams (assuming we
 can find them) so that we can play them courtesy of your PlayHLS plugin
 and ffmpeg. But it's going to get messy if BBCiPlayer defaults to HDS
 streams (that we can't play at present) - which is the problem that
 you've encountered.

Sort of.

As I see it - HLS is available for tablets and smart phones but not all
PC browsers. HDS is available (via Flash) for PC Browser but not all
tablets and smart phones.

So I think BBC will have to put all programming available in both
formats until a single format such as DASH is available on PC Browser,
tablets and phones.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

majones wrote: 
 I have loads of questions that I could ask, but probably the most
 significant is whether we'll need a PlayHDS plugin?

Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
and mplayer cannot play it - perfect for BBC but don't worry I expect
Apple won't allow an Adobe format player on their system



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread majones

bpa wrote: 
 Since BBC are the hunt for a format which cannot be played except by
 their players - I expect we'll need a PlayHDS except AFAICT ffmpeg, vlc
 and mplayer cannot play it - perfect for BBC but don't worry I expect
 Apple won't allow an Adobe format player on their system Presumably all 
 programming post-RTMP will have HLS streams (assuming we
can find them) so that we can play them courtesy of your PlayHLS plugin
and ffmpeg. But it's going to get messy if BBCiPlayer defaults to HDS
streams (that we can't play at present) - which is the problem that
you've encountered.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread majones

bpa wrote: 
 No a HDS stream (HDS is Adobe's version of chunked HTTP competes against
 Apple's HLS).
 
 The issue is RTMP (which is what Flash/AAC uses) is implemented in
 BBCiPlayer plugin and Applet to deliver Listen Again. The question I had
 was BBC couldn't move to HLS because PC browsers support Flash and not
 HLS.  It looks like BBC now have a Flash player which can play HDS
 streams so BBC could move from RTMP to HDS for Listen Again on PC
 browser and so break plugins and applet.
I have loads of questions that I could ask, but probably the most
significant is whether we'll need a PlayHDS plugin?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

Updated the Lua file in Post #1 to cope with latest BBC change.

It seems to work and can play Listen Again RTMP files - while BBc still
puts them up.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
 If you got live working as well then you'd enter the Hall of Fame as
 voted for by radio owners!

Just checked on Linux PC - what I thought was an RTMP stream playing on
Flash is in fact HDS playing on Flash
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_6music.f4m

HDS live 6 music is 


Code:


  mediaSelection xmlns=http://bbc.co.uk/2008/mp/mediaselection;
  !--
  This code and data form part of the BBC iPlayer content protection system. 
Tampering with, removal of, misuse of, or unauthorised use of this code or data 
constitutes circumvention of the BBC's content protection measures and may 
result in legal action. BBC (C) 2014.
  --
  media bitrate=48 encoding=aac kind=audio 
service=pc_stream_audio_simulcast_nonuk_a_p123 type=audio/mp4
  connection dpw=50 
href=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_6music.f4m;
 priority=3 protocol=http supplier=akamai_hds transferFormat=hds/
  connection 
href=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/llnw/bbc_6music.f4m;
 priority=4 protocol=http supplier=limelight_hds transferFormat=hds/
  /media
  /mediaSelection
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
 Just checked on Linux PC - what I thought was an RTMP stream playing on
 Flash is in fact HDS playing on Flash
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_6music.f4m
 
 HDS live 6 music is 
 
  
Code:

  
   mediaSelection xmlns=http://bbc.co.uk/2008/mp/mediaselection;
   !--
   This code and data form part of the BBC iPlayer content protection system. 
Tampering with, removal of, misuse of, or unauthorised use of this code or data 
constitutes circumvention of the BBC's content protection measures and may 
result in legal action. BBC (C) 2014.
   --
   media bitrate=48 encoding=aac kind=audio 
service=pc_stream_audio_simulcast_nonuk_a_p123 type=audio/mp4
   connection dpw=50 
href=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/ak/bbc_6music.f4m;
 priority=3 protocol=http supplier=akamai_hds transferFormat=hds/
   connection 
href=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hds/nonuk/low/llnw/bbc_6music.f4m;
 priority=4 protocol=http supplier=limelight_hds transferFormat=hds/
   /media
   /mediaSelection
   

  

Sorry - you've lost me (again!)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
 Nope - nothing.   No live and no listen again . play
The fix is only for Listen Again.

Are UK or non UK ?
Is it Radio or Touch ?
The BBC Radio menu setting (just below BBC York) is set to Highest
Bitrate and not WMA or AAC/MP3

Can you turn set logging applet.BBCRadio to DEBUG and then go to top
level menu and then back down into BBC Radio and try to play a Listen
Again program.

The following is  a snippet from the end of /var/log/messages log - the
message modded url means the updated Lua file has been used.

Code:


  Mar  9 09:08:17 squeezeplay: DEBUG  applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:156 
tzoffset: 0
  Mar  9 09:08:21 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:238 
fetching: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:619 
sending play request to SlimServer {mysqueezebox.com} player LocalPlayer 
{Squeezebox Touch} url 
spdr://bbcmsparser?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY28udWsvbWVkaWFzZWxlY3Rvci80L210aXMvc3RyZWFtL2IwNTQyeXNnicon=aHR0cDovL25vZGUxLmJiY2ltZy5jby51ay9pcGxheWVyL2ltYWdlcy9lcGlzb2RlL2IwNTQyenR0XzUxMl8yODguanBnartist=QXV0aG9yIEFubmEgTHluZHNleSBkZXNjcmliZXMgcmVtaXNzaW9uIGFuZCB0aGUgZmlyc3QgY2F1dGlvdXMgZm9yYXlzIGludG8gYSB0d2lsaXQgd29ybGQudur=MTA4MA==
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   audio.decode - Playback.lua:934 using 
custom handler bbcmsparser
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:637 
url: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/b0542ysg
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:640 
modded url: 
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/b0542ysg
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:656 
spdrver: 1
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:743 
rtmp: stream-nonuk-audio_streaming_aac_vlow
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:911 
play RTMP stream service: stream-nonuk-audio_streaming_aac_vlow
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:912 
play RTMP stream supplier: limelight
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio - BBCRadioApplet.lua:970 
playing stream codec a host: bbcodspdns.fcod.llnwd.net ip: 95.140.227.69 port: 
1935
  Mar  9 09:08:37 squeezeplay: INFO   audio.decode - decode_start_handler:279 
init decoder aac
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bonze

All I get is 'connecting.'

In UK
On a Touch and tried to play first programme from today on BBC4Extra

Mar  9 09:38:00 squeezeplay: DEBUG  applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:156 tzoffset: 0
Mar  9 09:38:04 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:238 fetching:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4extra.xml
Mar  9 09:38:10 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:619 sending play request to SlimServer
{mysqueezebox.com} player LocalPlayer {Bedtouch} url
spdr://bbcmsparser?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY28udWsvbWVkaWFzZWxlY3Rvci80L210aXMvc3RyZWFtL2IwMDVrY2Z5icon=aHR0cDovL25vZGUxLmJiY2ltZy5jby51ay9pcGxheWVyL2ltYWdlcy9lcGlzb2RlL2IwMDc2bW40XzUxMl8yODguanBnartist=QW4gaXNvbGF0ZWQgaG91c2UuIFRoZSBkaXNjb3Zlcnkgb2YgY2hpbGRyZW4ncyBncmF2ZXMuIEEgbGFyZ2UgbnVtYmVyIG9mIHRhZ2dlZCBpbmZhbnRzLg==dur=MzYwMA==
Mar  9 09:38:10 squeezeplay: INFO   audio.decode - Playback.lua:935
using custom handler bbcmsparser
Mar  9 09:38:10 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:637 url:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/b005kcfy
Mar  9 09:38:10 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:640 modded url:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/b005kcfy
Mar  9 09:38:10 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.BBCRadio -
BBCRadioApplet.lua:656 spdrver: 1
Mar  9 09:38:11 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.SlimMenus -
SlimMenusApplet.lua:502 _menuSink(1) nil menuDirective: add
isCurrentServer:true


By the way, how do you get the 'code' box?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
 The fix is only for Listen Again.
 
 Are UK or non UK ?
 Is it Radio or Touch ?
 The BBC Radio menu setting (just below BBC York) is set to Highest
 Bitrate and not WMA or AAC/MP3
 
 

Oops - gave a bum steer - must have been too late last night.  Listen
again works  when I tried it this morning.

I'm outside UK - tried on a Touch.

---

Should live work?  I guess not, when I engage my brain - given the
changes the BBC have made.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
 The changes were only to the Listen Again.  Live streams are already
 available elsewhere so I didn' want to waste time.
 I'll do a quick to see if I can get the RTMP live working.
 
 

If you got live working as well then you'd enter the Hall of Fame as
voted for by radio owners!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-09 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
 Should live work?  I guess not, when I engage my brain - given the
 changes the BBC have made.

The changes were only to the Listen Again.  Live streams are already
available elsewhere so I didn' want to waste time.
I'll do a quick to see if I can get the RTMP live working.

I've also tested new file on Radio and it is ok.  

The Highest Bitrate setting is essential also you must go back to top
menu in order for BBc Radio applet to be reloaded using new file.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-08 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
 Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
 Applet.
 
 Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
 me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
 it is a good fix.
 
 1. Download and unzip the file.
 2. Make sure you can ssh login into Radio/Touch
 3. So you can revert make a backup copy of the Radio/Touch file
 /usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua
 4. Copy the downloaded and unzipped file BBCRadioApplet.lua to
 Radio/Touch /usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua. 
 For example using scp from current directory assuming Touch/Radio is
 192.168.1.58
 scp BBCRadioApplet.lua
 root@192.168.1.58:/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua

Nope - nothing.   No live and no listen again . play



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2015-03-08 Thread bpa

Recent changes to BBC Listen Again have broken Triode's BBC Radio
Applet.

Attached below is a replacement file for the Applet which works ok for
me but I'm outside the UK so perhaps UK users can also test and see if
it is a good fix.

1. Download and unzip the file.
2. Make sure you can ssh login into Radio/Touch
3. So you can revert make a backup copy of the Radio/Touch file
/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua
4. Copy the downloaded and unzipped file BBCRadioApplet.lua to
Radio/Touch /usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua. 
For example using scp from current directory assuming Touch/Radio is
192.168.1.58
scp BBCRadioApplet.lua
root@192.168.1.58:/usr/share/jive/applets/BBCRadio/BBCRadioApplet.lua


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|Filename: BBCRadioApplet.lua.zip   |
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