[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
nik8;175672 Wrote: ...But sometimes the reported artists/tracks is way off. Have you got a path to the music folder or a playlist folder in SS server settings? If you are using MM to organise the music, these settings should be left empty. I'll try delete the cache files (the whole Cache directory??) and see if it helps. Yes, on a Windows system delete the whole Cache folder at C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache Is there a way to add files without using the MM client? I'd prefer just to dump the new files into my music directory and let a background job process them. You can just put music into the folder where you keep your music on your hard drive, and tell MM to 'Watch' that folder (last item in MM Options). MM will then scan and analyse any changes to that folder in the backgrounds. And after the MusicMagic Reload interval you've set in SS, SS will rescan and pick up the information from MM. But make sure the interval is big enough so that both programs aren't accessing the files at the same time - 600sec is OK for small changes, retagging etc; but if you're adding three or four new CDs, MM needs time to analyse the music. So I'd suggest you turn off the automatic scan by SS, by making the MM Reload Interval = 0. Then you can wait till MM has finished analysing, and do a manual rescan (I find 'Clear and Rescan' best to be sure of getting the two caches aligned properly) Remember, if you are using MM, then you are letting that software manage your music files and keep the data about you music in its own library. SS then bases its own data about your music on what it gets from the MM cache (which is why you should not give SS a music folder setting of its own - if you do, it will start trying to set up a rival library on its own account, and you'll get conflicts). -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
matrixed99;174868 Wrote: There seem to be some issues with MusicIP when your music library is on multiple drives and folders. I have three drives named /Music, /Music2 and /Music3. /Music2 has alias's to /Music and /Music3. I think this may be the cause of a lot of the difficulty. I found MM had real trouble when my music files were on a NAS. It's much happier if the files are on the same drive as the program, inside the box. I've no idea why this is so, but it did make all the difference; and it is mentioned on the MusicIP forum. Deleting the Cache folder rebuilt the library but didn't rebuild the Cache folder and contents. I don't understand that. Perhaps another Linux user can confirm what should happen. But FileCache is normally a folder within Cache, along with others called Artwork, MySQL, and templates. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
I'm been experiencing the duplicate entry problem that others have described here when using the MusicIP in headless mode on Linux. I'm currently trying to solve the problem by deleting the cache files manually. As tech support recommended, I deleted everything inside of the /usr/local/Slimserver/Cache folder. When I restart the slimserver service and access the Web interface, there is no evidence of the cache rebuilding itself. The cache folder is empty. Is there another method of getting the cache to rebuild in Linux? -- matrixed99 matrixed99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1562 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
matrixed99;174540 Wrote: ...As tech support recommended, I deleted everything inside of the /usr/local/Slimserver/Cache folder. When I restart the slimserver service and access the Web interface, there is no evidence of the cache rebuilding itself. The cache folder is empty. Is there another method of getting the cache to rebuild in Linux? You might try deleting the entire Cache folder from the Slimserver folder - this is what I've routinely done on my WinXP system. (Make sure there are no settings in SS for a music folder path or a playlists path before you exit SS and delete the Cache.) On restart, SS detects that there's no cache folder and rebuilds it (I think mysqld may actually be doing this); then the scanner starts and does a complete rescan to rebuild the library. Can't think why that process would be any different on a Linux system. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
That's not it, they decrease again. -- Stan Pulsar Stan Pulsar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
This unfolding mystery is at least as good as CSI! -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Diana;172989 Wrote: Stan The best fix I've found when MM and SS get in a conflict is to stop SS, delete its Cache, and restart it (need to kill the mysql process before deleting the Cache - with Task Manager in WinXP pro). Restarting SS will cause a rebuild of the Cache and a full rescan based on what's now in the MM cache. Fortunately, I manage not to need to do this now (see next para). I've found that if I add lots of music, SS starts to rescan before MM has analysed the tracks, and that causes problems, as you say. In an effort to avoid this, I set the MM Reload Interval to 600s (10 mins) as per Siduhe's posts; but that was just not long enough. When adding lots of tracks I now set it to 0, which prevents SS rescanning automatically, and I then do a manual 'Clear and Rescan' when MM has analysed all the tracks. But the differences between MM and SS re library stats seem not so easily reconciled. I suspect MM and SS use different principles for what to count. I'm resigned to the differences being simply a mystery. I ignore them, and just enjoy the endlessly delightful mixes! Thanks for your reply. Well that was going to be my plan too (setting reload to 0 while validating), but, as I woke up this morning, it had happened again during the night, with absolutely no validation running. (and yesterday evening, everything was fine). May be if I've 15min to waste today I'll check both artists lists to see if there's effectively 19 artists missing in SS, or if everyone's there but SS isn't brilliant at maths. (Surprisingly I won't do the same for the 5 tracks missing, over 13000) As for being resigned, you're probably right. But being a Cartesian, this little issue will tickle me till it ends up by being solved. In the meantime, back to music ! -- Stan Pulsar Stan Pulsar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
I think I might have find out what's gonig on. It seems to be due to the trackstat plugin, which in its settings has minimum numbers of tracks for -an artist -an album to be shown in stats, and a minimum duration for a track to be shown. I've set everything to 1 and wait to see if the stats change. If not, I'll rescan and check if they decrease again. -- Stan Pulsar Stan Pulsar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Stan The best fix I've found when MM and SS get in a conflict is to stop SS, delete its Cache, and restart it (need to kill the mysql process before deleting the Cache - with Task Manager in WinXP pro). Restarting SS will cause a rebuild of the Cache and a full rescan based on what's now in the MM cache. Fortunately, I manage not to need to do this now (see next para). I've found that if I add lots of music, SS starts to rescan before MM has analysed the tracks, and that causes problems, as you say. In an effort to avoid this, I set the MM Reload Interval to 600s (10 mins) as per Siduhe's posts; but that was just not long enough. When adding lots of tracks I now set it to 0, which prevents SS rescanning automatically, and I then do a manual 'Clear and Rescan' when MM has analysed all the tracks. But the differences between MM and SS re library stats seem not so easily reconciled. I suspect MM and SS use different principles for what to count. I'm resigned to the differences being simply a mystery. I ignore them, and just enjoy the endlessly delightful mixes! -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
smc2911 wrote: I had one thought for exclusions using linux: put the exclusions in a path that you don't point MIP to and then point SS to this path. With any luck, SS will pick up the exclusions and get everything else from MIP. Bit of a kludge, but could work. I was thinking something similar, so I'll give that a go. Another alternative, if you use extended access control lists, would be to make the audiobooks directory non-accessible to the user that the MusicMagicServer process runs as (assuming it just doesn't crash when it gets an access denied error!). I'll probably settle on one of those two approaches. Stuart ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Thanks, I hadn't seen this. I'll check it out. -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
OK: bullet = mouth. I've archived away the cache and started a full re-validation. Good luck then! I've been waiting for some ridiculous 60 files to be analyzed for more than 12h now. I don't know what MIP doesn't like about these, but it takes about one hour per file! It's a new audio book. Other files are usually done within minutes the dozen... (full collection analysis took almost a week of 99% cpu load :-)) -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
I'd also like to do that, but use the headless version on Linux. Is there a way to configure file exclusion filters using the mmm.ini file, I wonder? It might be in some documentation somewhere, but there seems to be practically none of it for the Linux headless server! Stuart Siduhe wrote: Michael, Any particular reason why you want to validate audiobooks ? I exclude all podcasts and audiobooks from validation, both because they take too much time to validate and because I don't want them included in any mix. http://music.predixis.com/exclusions.html ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Is there a way to configure file exclusion filters using the mmm.ini file, I wonder? It might be in some documentation somewhere, but there seems to be practically none of it for the Linux headless server! The only docs I've found don't list this as an option: http://www.musicip.com/mixer/server.jsp -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Michael Herger;167270 Wrote: OK: bullet = mouth. I've archived away the cache and started a full re-validation. Good luck then! I've been waiting for some ridiculous 60 files to be analyzed for more than 12h now. Well, it's going better than expected: around 16hrs in and the collection's 95% validated. I had one thought for exclusions using linux: put the exclusions in a path that you don't point MIP to and then point SS to this path. With any luck, SS will pick up the exclusions and get everything else from MIP. Bit of a kludge, but could work. -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
OK all revalidated, and yet I've still got Psychic T.V. not Psychic TV :( On another note, now that my MIP and SS track-counts match, what are the pros and cons of dropping the music folder in SS? Scanning time? Will SS still pick up album art? -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Good luck then! I've been waiting for some ridiculous 60 files to be analyzed for more than 12h now. Well, it's going better than expected: around 16hrs in and the collection's 95% validated. I'm still waiting for the second half of my 60 files: one single file took more than 120 minutes to analyze... -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Diana;16702 Wrote: What next? Do I need to make SS do a rescan? Or will it just update itself from MusicIP automatically? (In the server MusicMagic settings, there's a MusicMagic Reload interval (currently set to 60 sec) that says SlimServer will 'automatically reload your MusicMagic Database again'.) The reload interval should handle it. Basically, once a minute Slimserver will ask MusicIP, hey, has the database changed? and will get a yes or no answer. If it is yes, Slimserver will re-import the MusicIP database. Set it and forget it... um or something. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Wow! Great! But that sounds suspiciously easy. We are talking about SS and MIP here. So your 'um or something' worries me! Have you actually *seen* this happen? ;-) Best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Hi Diana, I've seen it happen and it works fine for me ! The only issue I have sometimes had is if I import something into the MM database, but Slimserver realises the database has changed and starts rescanning before the MM validation process has finished. If that happens, I get the new music, but not with the little MM next to it (for the tracks that haven't finished validating). For that reason, I increased the MM reload interval to about 10 minutes which is plenty of time for MM to finish doing its thing. A full clear and rescan sorts any mismatch issues out as well. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Diana;167033 Wrote: Wow! Great! But that sounds suspiciously easy. We are talking about SS and MIP here. So your 'um or something' worries me! Have you actually *seen* this happen? ;-) Best wishes Yeah, I actually did that last night and I still use a music folder. I ripped a CD, told MusicMagic to look for new music (I use the headless version, so the names may be different), it found the new tracks, I had it analyze them... and SlimServer new about them and had mixes for most of them too. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Siduhe Thanks for yet another really helpful bit of advice (I got a lot of help from your posts to this forum about MM/MIP). I'll certainly make the change you suggest to the settings; but its good to know that a 'clear and rescan' is still there as a failsafe. On a point that seemed to come up a lot in the threads I read about the right order for starting MIP and SS - I've done as MeSue suggested in http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23320highlight=slimappend She said... MeSue;109072 Wrote: The only thing special I've had to do is add -slim -slimappend to the command line parameters in my startup shortcut for MusicIP Mixer. It has always worked. Seems to work fine for me - SS service starts automatically; I just start the MIP GUI with these parameters and the programs see each other. (Has some one done some work with SS6.5.1 to improve this issue?) Many thanks, and best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
I don't even have the command line parameter set up any more. I recently set MIP up as a headless service (you may need to have a premium key from MIP to do this) and then set Slimsever to start up automatically as well. There's not been a single problem about the order of starting these two up since I did it this way (even though I've uninstalled and reinstalled both several times). I've never set anything up as a service before, and was quite hesitant, but the instructions here worked first time for me. http://www.musicip.com/mixer/server.jsp You can still start up and use the MIP application if you want to but I prefer having it running away in the background. You probably don't want to start messing around with your install now you have it working properly, but if you ever decide to reinstall Slimserver for any reason - you might want to consider this set up. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
I did think of trying this solution, and I'm glad to hear it works and is straightforward to do. For the time being, I'm going to use the MIP GUI, to get a better idea of what the software does. I haven't yet worked out whether it's possible to set up a mix with the GUI and then pass it to Slim, or whether Slim can only work with MIP from the SS web interface and the SB player. Do you know? (And, BTW, is it possible to (a) delete an ordinary playlist with the remote; (b) delete a playlist that's been marked 'mm' from the web interface (as the 'mm' seems to go where [x] used to be)? I can't for the life of me work out how do to either of these!) Best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
snarlydwarf;167047 Wrote: ...I still use a music folder... Snarlydwarf I tried checking 'Use MusicMagic' and having a web interface entry for a music folder too. The library stats showed double values for everything - songs, albums and artists. Removing the pointer to the music files and doing a 'clear and rescan' sorted the numbers out. Have you noticed this problem? -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Diana;167061 Wrote: Snarlydwarf I tried checking 'Use MusicMagic' and having a web interface entry for a music folder too. The library stats showed double values for everything - songs, albums and artists. Removing the pointer to the music files and doing a 'clear and rescan' sorted the numbers out. Have you noticed this problem? I have that problem if the paths don't match exactly. On my system (running Linux), I have my library at something like /music/mp3 (yeah, even flacs go there, the mp3 is a carryover) but I also have a symlink (shortcut in windows sense) that goes from /home/bem/mp3 to the music library. If I tell MusicIP to use /home/bem/mp3, and Slimserver to use /music/mp3, even though they are technically the same place, Slimserver can't tell and duplicates everything. If they both use /music/mp3, then it works fine, though a full scan is slow since it reads tags twice. (Though I have yet to get anyone to agree with me on that.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Snarlydwarf I've been experimenting with this, and you're right on several counts. If I set SS to use MusicMagic and also set a music folder, the scan takes 40 minutes; if I don't have a music folder set in SS, it takes 17 minutes. If I set only 'use MM', the song count is 3364. If I also set a music folder, the song count is twice that. But I have always used an UNC path to the networked music drive in SS (\\drive-alias\public\musicfolder); whereas MIP only lets you select an assigned drive name (Y:\musicfolder). When I use the same assigned drive name format in SS as in MIP, the song count matches: 3363. And one final idiosyncrasy I've discovered (probably everyone else knew this already!): when I've got SS and MIP agreeing about the number of songs (as per my last paragraph) MIP reports 752 Artists; but the SS library stats on the home page report only 444. (SS agrees with MIP on number of albums and of songs). However, when I browse in SS through, say, All Artists to All Albums to All Songs, SS displays the number of artists on that page as 752. What I think is happening here is that whenever SS is looking at All Songs, it counts how many artist names there are, including all multiple instances (i.e. individual tokens); but whenever it is summarising a higher level (albums; artists) it counts only how many *different* artists there are (i.e. types rather than tokens). MIP only reports tokens. This may be boringly obvious to most people; but it comes as a great relief to my orderly mind to understand the discrepancies between what I had assumed would be counts of the same things. To see the unaccountable discrepancies was an irritating puzzle! Best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Diana;167058 Wrote: ...I haven't yet worked out whether it's possible to set up a mix with the GUI and then pass it to Slim, or whether Slim can only work with MIP from the SS web interface and the SB player. Do you know? Siduhe I have now! You just press 'SEND TO' in the MIP GUI. Doh! -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
For what it's worth, I set both the music folder and use MIP because I have found that MIP will not pick up filenames with accented characters, but SS will. I believe that this issue has been fixed with the windows version of MIP, but I am using the linux version. I've also noticed that strange things can happen if I update tags (and I had to clear all ID3v2 or below tags that were lingering on a few mp3s, although I mostly have a flac collection). Generally if I get MIP to do a refresh as well as doing a rescan things are sorted, but at the moment I'm stumped by one album. The album is by Psychic TV and originally the mp3s were tagged as Psychic T.V.. I changed this for consistency with other albums but no matter what I do, I'm getting two artists in SS for every track on the album: so it displays, for example, Botanica by Psychic TV and Psychic T.V. from Dreams Less Sweet. Examining the tags closely with mp3tag, I'm convinced that there are no tags with Psychic T.V., but a search on MIP always comes up with Psychic T.V.. I've tried moving the album off the server, refreshing MIP and then putting it back and adding new music, but no joy. The only thing I haven't tried is deleting the whole cache and re-validating (reluctant to do so with 10,000 tracks as it'll be very slow!). Anyway, sorry for getting a bit side-tracked there! -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins