Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-23 Thread Mnyb

rbl wrote: 
> Odd since I "powered" down SqueezeLite and installed SqueezePlay. It saw
> the desktop server and mysqueezebox, failed to connect to the desktop,
> but switched SqueezeLite back on. Guess Ill give it another go...
LMS can be confused as it identifies the player by Mac id it probably
can't tell the players apart and thinks it's the same .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-23 Thread rbl

Mnyb wrote: 
> No they are not the same player .

Odd since I "powered" down SqueezeLite and installed SqueezePlay. It saw
the desktop server and mysqueezebox, failed to connect to the desktop,
but switched SqueezeLite back on. Guess Ill give it another go...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-23 Thread Mnyb

rbl wrote: 
> Before I buy another SB3, I thought I'd just check if there are any
> other software solutions that may work? I believe SqueezePlay relies on
> SqueezeLite so I am presumably back to the same problem there? Are there
> any other software solutions to playing sync'd music on my desktop?

No they are not the same player .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-23 Thread rbl

Before I buy another SB3, I thought I'd just check if there are any
other software solutions that may work? I believe SqueezePlay relies on
SqueezeLite so I am presumably back to the same problem there? Are there
any other software solutions to playing sync'd music on my desktop?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-19 Thread rbl

epoch1970 wrote: 
> And also because it is better, and looks glorious. I took the liberty of
> sending you a PM yesterday about that. There's an Ebay.co.uk seller this
> week who dumps a Boom, an SB3 (silver/white), and a TP (silver). All
> looking very good.
> 
> If you are saying there is a slight delay, but this delay is absolutely
> stable, then I suggest you touch up Settings>this
> player>Synchronize>Player Audio Delay (ms) and add there the few 10s of
> millisecs that account for transport time within the PC. That should fix
> it.

Yep - thanks v much for the PM. There seem to be quite a few on ebay now
so hopefully can pick one up a lot cheaper than what I paid for the new
ones 10 odd years ago! Seems amazing that 10 years later this hardware
is still "current"! And will try the delay feature - thanks very much
for the heads up..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-19 Thread epoch1970

rbl wrote: 
> I think if I go down the h/w route, which frankly would be a bit
> disappointing due to (a) extra cost (b) extra boxes and (c) the feeling
> of why is it necessary, I'll go with another 2nd hand SB3. Simply
> because I know it.
And also because it is better, and looks glorious. I took the liberty of
sending you a PM yesterday about that. There's an Ebay.co.uk seller this
week who dumps a Boom, an SB3 (silver/white), and a TP (silver). All
looking very good.
> Currently I have one plugged into the LineIn on my PC and it works fine,
> although it is v v slightly out of sync, but barely noticeable. That
> sync issue maybe the linein on the motherboard, dunno ...
If you are saying there is a slight delay, but this delay is absolutely
stable, then I suggest you touch up Settings>this
player>Synchronize>Player Audio Delay (ms) and add there the few 10s of
millisecs that account for transport time within the PC. That should fix
it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-19 Thread rbl

epoch1970 wrote: 
> One more SB3 is never a bad choice I would say.
> But given the environment you describe and the asking price for an SB
> these days, I would take a 2nd hand/refurbished Airport Express
> (2012-current model) and put that near the PC. You would get Airplay
> line out for the PC (digital or analog) and a boost to your wifi signal
> as a bonus. (You can disable wifi but then connectivity is limited to a
> 2-port 10/100 switch.)
> Here in FR the refurb store is depleted but months ago I got many of
> these, brand new in neutral packaging, for 79€ after VAT. That's 62.95£,
> Google says.
> I would recommend you head over the Airplay bridge plugin thread if you
> have the slightest hesitation.
> 

I think if I go down the h/w route, which frankly would be a bit
disappointing due to (a) extra cost (b) extra boxes and (c) the feeling
of why is it necessary, I'll go with another 2nd hand SB3. Simply
because I know it. Currently I have one plugged into the LineIn on my PC
and it works fine, although it is v v slightly out of sync, but barely
noticeable. That sync issue maybe the linein on the motherboard, dunno
...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-19 Thread rbl

bpa wrote: 
> IIRC sync depends on an accurate clock on the audio hardware and many
> PCs don't have good audio hardware but also sometime Windows can do a
> lot of s/w processing  (e.g. resample 44.1kHZ to 48 Khz) . 
> 
> On Windows there are a few different audio API and perhaps one may be
> better for your setup. Have you tried the different API by checking what
> output device your Squeezelite finds.

Thanks very much for the help, but franklyI wouldn't know where to start
to try a "different audio API"!?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-18 Thread bpa

IIRC sync depends on an accurate clock on the audio hardware and many
PCs don't have good audio hardware but also sometime Windows can do a
lot of s/w processing  (e.g. resample 44.1kHZ to 48 Khz) . 

On Windows there are a few different audio API and perhaps one may be
better for your setup. Have you tried the different API by checking what
output device your Squeezelite finds.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-18 Thread epoch1970

One more SB3 is never a bad choice I would say.
But given the environment you describe and the asking price for an SB
these days, I would take a 2nd hand/refurbished Airport Express
(2012-current model) and put that near the PC. You would get line out
for the PC (digital or analog) and a boost to your wifi signal as a
bonus. (You can disable wifi but then connectivity is limited to a
2-port 10/100 switch.)
Here in FR the refurb store is depleted but months ago I got many of
these, brand new in neutral packaging, for 79 after VAT. That's
62.95£, Google says.
I would recommend you head over the Airplay bridge plugin thread if you
have the slightest hesitation.

(by "about perfect sync", I meant I can, from time to time, hear a L-R
shift between sources when an airplay speaker is located less than 10
feet from a source driven by a synced SB3. If the distance is above
10ft, and surely at 15 ft. I can't hear this shift anymore. It is
extremely accurate, very satisfying to listen to.)



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bpa • IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) • Server Power Control by Gordon
Harris • Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael
Herger • PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple • Song Info, Song Lyrics by
Erland Isaksson • AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 • WeatherTime by Martin
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-18 Thread rbl

epoch1970 wrote: 
> Well if you have AirPlay devices (not the shairplay software stuff but
> hardware devices) you could sync an SB3 about perfectly, using the
> AirPlay Bridge plugin.
> Or you can let the SB3 drift (settings>your SB3>Synchronize menu) but I
> have to say I never tried the options to not maintain sync, or pushed
> the minimum sync adjustment to a higher value.

Thanks ... If I am going to buy hardware then presumably I'd be better
off getting another SB3 and plugging it into the LineIn on my PC?

I'll try increasing the Minimum Syncronisation Adjustment to say 500ms.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-17 Thread epoch1970

Well if you have AirPlay devices (not the shairplay software stuff but
hardware devices) you could sync an SB3 about perfectly, using the
AirPlay Bridge plugin.
Or you can let the SB3 drift (settings>your SB3>Synchronize menu) but I
have to say I never tried the options to not maintain sync, or pushed
the minimum sync adjustment to a higher value.



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bpa • IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) • Server Power Control by Gordon
Harris • Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael
Herger • PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple • Song Info, Song Lyrics by
Erland Isaksson • AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 • WeatherTime by Martin
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[SlimDevices: Plugins] SqueezeLite - pops and crackles when syncing with SB3s

2016-04-17 Thread rbl

I have two SB3s and SqueezeLite running on a Windows 10 desktop, all
wired in. The syncing of SqueezeLite is usually out by a very noticeable
split second. But more annoying is that the SqueezeLite causes crackles
and pops in the SB3s, about once a minute. Presumably these occur as
they all re-sync, but it only happens when SqueezeLite is sync'd. Is
there a way around this, either by changing the configuration, or by
using a different software player on my PC?

Configuration:
Windows 10 64bit, recently installed on a 2yr old desktop
2 x SB3s, all wired 
LMS 7.7.5



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