Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-15 Thread Redrum


d6jg wrote: 
> I currently use Qobuz (and Spotify for now) but I have tried both Deezer
> and Tidal in the past. 
> Deezer & Tidal are both provided via MySB.com and I think there is less
> development in that area whereas Qobuz is a plugin which Michael has
> "adopted" and continues to develop a bit from time to time. 
> I'd say that after Spotify, Qobuz is the best integration with LMS. Just
> my 2p.

Thanks Jim. I wasn't shopping for a new service but when my tidal trail
ends, I'll probably move over to Qobuz, at least for a trial. While I
enjoy access to all that music that I don't own, with Tidal (using the
tidal app on android and lms connect) I have to scroll though all sorts
of music I am not interested in. I have to scroll way down to get to
"because you have listened to..." :) which are the last 2 or 3 rows
before the end!

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-15 Thread andrewhunterjohnston


Redrum wrote: 
> no worries. I noticed that your post in this thread wasn't getting a
> response before mine, so can completely understand thinking your posted
> in the wrong place!
> Jim

There's also Adagio, which is excellent for 'classical' music - but I
don't think anyone has developed a SQB plugin for it



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-15 Thread Redrum


Zoltan wrote: 
> BTW sorry for starting two threads 

no worries. I noticed that your post in this thread wasn't getting a
response before mine, so can completely understand thinking your posted
in the wrong place!
Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-15 Thread d6jg


Redrum wrote: 
> I don't use Deezer, so this is not personal experience, but I believe
> you have to install the app at mysquezebox.com->app gallery->deezer. You
> may (?) have to have an account to install, but you could try the free
> account. Enable the plugin (which you have done), Them make sure that
> your LMS has the right mysb.com credentials (LMS
> settings->mysqueezebox.com). If you are already using another app
> (Pandora, etc) this should be ok. You may have to restart LMS, and the
> deezer app should appear in my apps on lms.
> 
> again, ymmv :)
> 
> Jim

I currently use Qobuz (and Spotify for now) but I have tried both Deezer
and Tidal in the past. 
Deezer & Tidal are both provided via MySB.com and I think there is less
development in that area whereas Qobuz is a plugin which Michael has
"adopted" and continues to develop a bit from time to time. 
I'd say that after Spotify, Qobuz is the best integration with LMS. Just
my 2p.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-15 Thread Zoltan


Thanks Jim (and for the reply on the 'other thread in the
MySqueezebox.com forum'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104738-Deezer-Plugin=1047713=1#post1047713)).
I will look into it.

BTW sorry for starting two threads - I hadn't initially realised the
MySB requirement, but once I had found it, it seemed that discussions
about Deezer were more active over in the other forum. I will keep my
discussion in the other thread from now.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-15 Thread Redrum


Zoltan wrote: 
> I have been thinking of giving Deezer a go as an alternative to
> Spotify.
> 
> According to my settings, I have the Deezer plugin installed but I do
> not see any sign of it in the UI. For example, Spotty appears under My
> Apps on the Web UI but I have never seen anything related to Deezer.
> 
> Is there something I need to do to enable it? 
> 
> BTW I do not have a Deezer account yet. I am just trying to understand
> the steps needed to make it available in my Squeezebox devices. It would
> be a dealbreaker if it is not possible for any reason as I would want it
> to be my primary mode of access.

I don't use Deezer, so this is not personal experience, but I believe
you have to install the app at mysquezebox.com->app gallery->deezer. You
may (?) have to have an account to install, but you could try the free
account. Enable the plugin (which you have done), Them make sure that
your LMS has the right mysb.com credentials (LMS
settings->mysqueezebox.com). If you are already using another app
(Pandora, etc) this should be ok. You may have to restart LMS, and the
deezer app should appear in my apps on lms.

again, ymmv :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-14 Thread Zoltan


I have been thinking of giving Deezer a go as an alternative to
Spotify.

According to my settings, I have the Deezer plugin installed but I do
not see any sign of it in the UI. For example, Spotty appears under My
Apps on the Web UI but I have never seen anything related to Deezer.

Is there something I need to do to enable it? 

BTW I do not have a Deezer account yet. I am just trying to understand
the steps needed to make it available in my Squeezebox devices. It would
be a dealbreaker if it is not possible for any reason as I would want it
to be my primary mode of access.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-13 Thread slartibartfast


Spotify are worse than Amazon when it comes to cancelling. You need to
click cancel on three different pages. After the second one you think
cancellation is complete but no you are taken to another page listing
all the plans with a "Confirm cancellation" at the bottom of the page
which you don't see unless you scroll down. [emoji35]

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-09 Thread Jaca


The Groundsman wrote: 
> I used to be with Deezer before moving to Spotify ages ago. I liked it a
> lot and there seemed to be less licencing issues. The issue for me was
> that there were quite severe limitations on playlist size. 2000 v 1
> on Spotify.
> 
> I am a bit weird I know but most of the time (ie  when I'm not listening
> to classical music) I like to mix up my library which is about 25000
> songs. I got rid of most of my CDs and have a small number of things
> ripped locally that are not available on the streaming service, but 99%
> of listening is from Spotify. I am yet to find a way of randomising my
> library so I keep it in around 5 playlists; to work around the 10,000
> song limit. From time to time I export everything using an extension - 
> exportify, and do  the randomisation in excel and then copy a chunk
> (3000 songs or so) of the mixed up songs back into Spotify. 
> 
> I can't find an alternative streaming service that allows for this
> export import so I get my properly randomised music.Tune my music let's you 
> export everything from Spotify to cvs file for
free. I assume other services for transfer do same..

Ps you can actually use that to transfer everything for free when
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-09 Thread The Groundsman


Julf wrote: 
> I am pretty happy after switching to Deezer (and thanks for everyone
> here who helped me get the LMS integration working!).

I used to be with Deezer before moving to Spotify ages ago. I liked it a
lot and there seemed to be less licencing issues. The issue for me was
that there were quite severe limitations on playlist size. 2000 v 1
on Spotify.

I am a bit weird I know but most of the time (ie  when I'm not listening
to classical music) I like to mix up my library which is about 25000
songs. I got rid of most of my CDs and have a small number of things
ripped locally that are not available on the streaming service, but 99%
of listening is from Spotify. I am yet to find a way of randomising my
library so I keep it in around 5 playlists; to work around the 10,000
song limit. From time to time I export everything using an extension - 
exportify, and do  the randomisation in excel and then copy a chunk
(3000 songs or so) of the mixed up songs back into Spotify. 

I can't find an alternative streaming service that allows for this
export import so I get my properly randomised music.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-08 Thread Julf


I am pretty happy after switching to Deezer (and thanks for everyone
here who helped me get the LMS integration working!).



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fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-08 Thread Grumpy Bob

expectingtofly wrote: 
> I just switched from Spotify to Qobuz.   
> The amount Spotify pay to artists is what pushed me to move,  Public
> Service Broadcast recently published on twitter how much income per
> stream they get from each streaming service.  Qobuz pays 6.57 times the
> amount Spotify do!! 
> https://twitter.com/PSB_HQ/status/1489213401255587841
> 
> I note Spotify seem to be able to pay Barcelona FC €100 million per year
> to advertise on their shirts though
> https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1490985710156795905

I switched from Spotify to Qobuz last week as well. I used to justify
sticking with Spotify on the grounds that I buy a lot of music as
download, vinyl and occasionally CD and that in some way my contribution
to the artists I like made the low streaming payout from Spotify OK. But
the Rogan situation made it clear to me that Spotify is no longer a
music streaming platform. Still, better late than never. Enjoying Qobuz.
Nice to be using a streaming platform that also sells downloads.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-08 Thread expectingtofly

I just switched from Spotify to Qobuz.   
The amount Spotify pay to artists is what pushed me to move,  Public
Service Broadcast recently published on twitter how much income per
stream they get from each streaming service.  Qobuz pays 6.57 times the
amount Spotify do!! 
https://twitter.com/PSB_HQ/status/1489213401255587841

I note Spotify seem to be able to pay Barcelona FC €100 million per year
to advertise on their shirts though
https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1490985710156795905



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-08 Thread slartibartfast


Redrum wrote: 
> Slight detour from the thread topic, I apologize...
> 
> No, I basically ignored Zaireeka back then due to logistics. But now
> that you mention it, I do have four radios and could mix two pair of
> disks into just two stereo recordings (disk 1/2 and 3/4), and set up 2
> pairs of radios to play L/R channels, then, only have to coordinate the
> starting of 2 playersHmmm
> 
> Or, Just download a fan mix:
> https://1967fanmixes.bandcamp.com/album/zaireeka-1967-fanmix
> 
> JimSee here [emoji2]
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1046762

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-08 Thread Redrum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Have you tried playing Zaireeka on four different players? That is a
> frustrating exercise in trying to start them all at the same time
> [emoji1787]
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Slight detour from the thread topic, I apologize...

No, I basically ignored Zaireeka back then due to logistics. But now
that you mention it, I do have four radios and could mix two pair of
disks into just two stereo recordings (disk 1/2 and 3/4), and set up 2
pairs of radios to play L/R channels, then, only have to coordinate the
starting of 2 playersHmmm

Or, Just download a fan mix:
https://1967fanmixes.bandcamp.com/album/zaireeka-1967-fanmix

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-07 Thread slartibartfast


Redrum wrote: 
> I have nothing to add the the normalization discussion, gain adjustment
> in general has always frustrated me so I gave up.
> 
> What I will add is what a great album, at a real creative sweet spot for
> the lips - Mystic, Soft Bulletin, Yoshimi. Think I'll cue them up
> today!
> 
> JimHave you tried playing Zaireeka on four different players? That is a
frustrating exercise in trying to start them all at the same time
[emoji1787]

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-04 Thread whitman


Jaca, that's interesting. 

Now I see that I can indeed add folders to Spotify's Playlists! 

In the official Spotify app on my desktop Mac, if I right-click on an
existing Playlist in the sidebar on the left, there's an option to
Create Folder, which I'd completely missed. It's easy from there to make
folders and sub-folders and organise stuff in a way that (for my
purposes, at least) is much more efficient. Good!

I can then see the new folders I've made in LMS in a browser UI on the
same desktop, rather more usefully in Material than the regular skin.
But neither seems to allow me to make new folders. And in iPeng on my
iPhone, again any new folders made on the Spotify app are now visible
but there's no obvious way (to me) to make new ones there.

Sorry if this is a touch off-topic here. Later, when/if the dust settles
on the Spotify debate, I'll maybe make a new thread about the folder
business.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-03 Thread Jaca

whitman wrote: 
> I must be missing something obvious—I've not been able to create nested
> folders in Playlists in the official Spotify app (or Spotty). How do you
> do that?Probably you need Windows or ios app as on my android I cannot create
new folder.. I can only see existing folders and playlists.

You can see here on android tablet folder Jaca contains 3playlists and 1
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-03 Thread Redrum


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I tried "Flaming Lips - At War With the Mystics"

I have nothing to add the the normalization discussion, gain adjustment
in general has always frustrated me so I gave up.

What I will add is what a great album, at a real creative sweet spot for
the lips - Mystic, Soft Bulletin, Yoshimi. Think I'll cue them up
today!

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-03 Thread whitman

Jaca wrote: 
> I mean in official Spotify you can create folder in playlists and then
> another folder with this folder..
> This was reflected in spotty with token trick described on spotty
> settings page
> .
> Weirdly I lost folder structure on my LMS.. 
> Maybe cos I have cancelled premium already or  maybe token expired hmm.
> Not sure

I must be missing comestihng obvious—I've not been able to create nested
folders in Playlists in the official Spotify app (or Spotty). How do you
do that?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-03 Thread slartibartfast


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Of course we don't know if volume normalisation is available for Tidal
> via LMS. Maybe @mherger can tell us more. It looks as though it isn't on
> by default explaining why The Wall is so quiet.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkApparently Sonos don't have volume 
> normalisation for any streaming
services which is ridiculous in 2022. [emoji2]
https://en.community.sonos.com/music-services-and-sources-228994/volume-normalization-6806221

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread slartibartfast


Jaca wrote: 
> I have only run 2 different tracks so not in depth but I would probably
> share your conclusions. On one of them TIDAL was quieter but on other it
> was louder. 
> My settings with -5 for remote streams ..  Signal going from Touch (100%
> volume) thru Focusrite audio interface to DAW.
> 
> 
> Chic Corea - 500 miles hight
> 37105 
> 
> 
> Snarky Puppy - Bent Nails 
> 37106Of course we don't know if volume normalisation is available for Tidal
via LMS. Maybe @mherger can tell us more. It looks as though it isn't on
by default explaining why The Wall is so quiet.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread Jaca


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I tried a few more tracks and now it seems albums with a low replaygain
> adjustment (The Wall has an Album Gain of -1.69dB) seem to be noticeably
> quieter on Tidal. I tried "Flaming Lips - At War With the Mystics" which
> has an Album Gain of -11.07dB and Tidal wasn't obviously quieter.
> My settings were "Album Gain" and Default Adjustment for Remote Streams
> -7. So I guess if the Default Adjustment was -5 the Flaming Lips could
> have been louder while Pink Floyd would still have been quieter. 
> Whatever Tidal are using for Volume Normalisation isn't working. I found
> this which implies they are meant to be using some kind of album gain.
> https://productionadvice.co.uk/tidal-normalization-upgrade/
> 
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I have only run 2 different tracks so not in depth but I would probably
share your conclusions. On one of them TIDAL was quieter but on other it
was louder. 
My settings with -5 for remote streams ..  Signal going from Touch (100%
volume) thru Focusrite audio interface to DAW.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread slartibartfast


Jaca wrote: 
> Will try bit laterI tried a few more tracks and now it seems albums with a 
> low replaygain
adjustment (The Wall has an Album Gain of -1.69dB) seem to be noticeably
quieter on Tidal. I tried "Flaming Lips - At War With the Mystics" which
has an Album Gain of -11.07dB and Tidal wasn't obviously quieter.
My settings were "Album Gain" and Default Adjustment for Remote Streams
-7. So I guess if the Default Adjustment was -5 the Flaming Lips could
have been louder while Pink Floyd would still have been quieter. 
Whatever Tidal are using for Volume Normalisation isn't working. I found
this which implies they are meant to be using some kind of album gain.
https://productionadvice.co.uk/tidal-normalization-upgrade/


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread Jaca


whitman wrote: 
> Curious to know how you got nested folders anywhere in Spy.I mean in 
> official Spotify you can create folder in playlists and then
another folder with this folder..
This was reflected in spotty with token trick described on spotty
settings page
.
Weirdly I lost folder structure on my LMS.. 
Maybe cos I have cancelled premium already or  maybe token expired hmm.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread Jaca


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Try playing a local track and compare to the same track on Tidal, I used
> Pink Floyd - The Wall. For me Tidal was much quieter. If it isn't on
> yours that is very strange. I even tried changing the normalisation
> setting in the Tidal phone app, it made no difference. I might record
> the waveforms from Squeezeplay using Audacity to show the volume
> difference.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkWill try bit later



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread whitman


Jaca wrote: 
> Only annoyance was I had to tweak playlists structure as had nested
> folders on Spotify and only 1st level of folder is allowed on Tidal.
> Which BTW isn't even visible on LMS or TV app..

Curious to know how you got nested folders anywhere in Spy.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread slartibartfast


Jaca wrote: 
> Yes it's on  - 5Try playing a local track and compare to the same track on 
> Tidal, I used
Pink Floyd - The Wall. For me Tidal was much quieter. If it isn't on
yours that is very strange. I even tried changing the normalisation
setting in the Tidal phone app, it made no difference. I might record
the waveforms from Squeezeplay using Audacity to show the volume
difference.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread Jaca


Jaca wrote: 
> This can't be right.. I believe mine is on - 5 or even - 8 for remote
> streams and Tidal is little louder.. HmmmYes it's on  - 5



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread slartibartfast

d6jg wrote: 
> I don’t use Tidal but I do use Qobuz and I’ve never touched the Default
> Adjustment for Remote Streams setting. Sometimes Qobuz is slightly
> louder but only very slightly and it doesn’t make me scrabble for a
> phone/tablet/remote to turn it down.In that case Qobuz probably doesn't have 
> replaygain built in. Before
Spotty allowed replaygain I didn't need to change the Default Adjustment
either. This seems to be unique to Tidal.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread d6jg

slartibartfast wrote: 
> I think LMS replaygain doesn't work on Tidal, it uses the "Default
> Adjustment for Remote streams". I think if you disable replaygain Tidal
> will still be quieter. I have mine set to "Album gain" and the first
> thing I did was to compare a local album with the Tidal equivalent and
> the volume difference was obvious. I had to set the  remote stream
> adjustment to zero to equalise the volumes.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I don’t use Tidal but I do use Qobuz and I’ve never touched the Default
Adjustment for Remote Streams setting. Sometimes Qobuz is slightly
louder but only very slightly and it doesn’t make me scrabble for a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread slartibartfast


Jaca wrote: 
> I haven't experienced that but I'm running it all on smart gain.. Had
> all my library scanned and replay gained.. I think perhaps Tidal is
> little bit louder than local music. But not every song so not sure if
> any normalisation is applied at all.. I will check this again when got
> opportunity. But it didn't seem like problem so far.. 
> 
> Also transfer was easy and very few tracks are missing from spotify
> library. 
> 
> Only annoyance was I had to tweak playlists structure as had nested
> folders on Spotify and only 1st level of folder is allowed on Tidal.
> Which BTW isn't even visible on LMS or TV app.. (yeah TV app - I was
> investigating connect substitutions and my android tv works as chrome
> cast player) 
> 
> In terms of connect its shame its not there.. I guess for ios users you
> can go with Airplay instead with shairtunes2 plugin.. For android it's
> only LMS connect app which allows to send thing to LMS by share function
> on Tidal app. Bit less convinient but possibly workableI think LMS replaygain 
> doesn't work on Tidal, it uses the "Default
Adjustment for Remote streams". I think if you disable replaygain Tidal
will still be quieter. I have mine set to "Album gain" and the first
thing I did was to compare a local album with the Tidal equivalent and
the volume difference was obvious. I had to set the  remote stream
adjustment to zero to equalise the volumes.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread slartibartfast


d6jg wrote: 
> In Player Settings you can adjust volume for Remote Streams. In
> Material, do Settings Player, scroll down to Extra Settings then you
> will find it in the expanded Audio section.Yes but then Radio streams are too 
> loud. You can't win. I suppose Radio
streams rarely follow local tracks in a playlist so I could set the
remote stream adjustment to 0 but surely it isn't intentional that the
Tidal app has built in Replaygain that can't be turned off. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread Jaca


slartibartfast wrote: 
> How do you find the volume of Tidal tracks compared to local tracks? I
> am finding them far too quiet. The Tidal phone app has a setting for
> volume normalisation but the LMS app doesn't. It acts as if
> normalisation is always on.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkI haven't experienced that but I'm 
> running it all on smart gain.. Had
all my library scanned and replay gained.. I think perhaps Tidal is
little bit louder than local music. But not every song so not sure if
any normalisation is applied at all.. I will check this again when got
opportunity. But it didn't seem like problem so far.. 

Also transfer was easy and very few tracks are missing from spotify
library. 

Only annoyance was I had to tweak playlists structure as had nested
folders on Spotify and only 1st level of folder is allowed on Tidal.
Which BTW isn't even visible on LMS or TV app.. (yeah TV app - I was
investigating connect substitutions and my android tv works as chrome
cast player) 

In terms of connect its shame its not there.. I guess for ios users you
can go with Airplay instead with shairtunes2 plugin.. For android it's
only LMS connect app which allows to send thing to LMS by share function
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread d6jg


slartibartfast wrote: 
> How do you find the volume of Tidal tracks compared to local tracks? I
> am finding them far too quiet. The Tidal phone app has a setting for
> volume normalisation but the LMS app doesn't. It acts as if
> normalisation is always on.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

In Player Settings you can adjust volume for Remote Streams. In
Material, do Settings Player, scroll down to Extra Settings then you
will find it in the expanded Audio section.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-02-02 Thread slartibartfast

Jaca wrote: 
> I'm on £1 for 3months Tidal trial in UK and really hoping that I can
> stay.. Wanted to quit Spotify for long time. Apart of fact they  pay
> artist peanuts (which should be enough good reason to not use them) I
> remember theirs treatment of squeezebox community after dropping
> official support and calling my ecosystem " your squeezebox
> smartspeaker" and advising me to replace it with Spotify Connect
> devices.. I guess recent podcast drama is final straw for me.. I have
> actually already cancelled my premium although got another 3 weeks left.
> Its funny how cancellation process reminds of amazon prime (another one
> on my list to avoid.. Hopefully one day)
> Anyway fingers crossed Tidal will meet my needs and I can easily
> transfer some of playlists from SpotifyHow do you find the volume of Tidal 
> tracks compared to local tracks? I
am finding them far too quiet. The Tidal phone app has a setting for
volume normalisation but the LMS app doesn't. It acts as if
normalisation is always on.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread tknx

mherger wrote: 
> > Looks like there is also Hifiberry Tidal Connect - so the
> > implementations are out there.
> 
> Logitech signed some contract with TIDAL (then still "WiMP") years back.
> 
> We can't use any of these "hacked" solutions. They seem to be using a 
> binary extracted from some hardware product to run it on a Pi.

Ah. I guess that is another reason for me to start exploring MPD based
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread Michael Herger

Looks like there is also Hifiberry Tidal Connect - so the
implementations are out there.


Logitech signed some contract with TIDAL (then still "WiMP") years back. 
We can't use any of these "hacked" solutions. They seem to be using a 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread tknx

@fatuousplatitudes just pay $4.50 for Soundiiz to move them over. Well
worth the time savings.

So Volumio has Tidal Connect functionality, behind their subscription
service though.

Looks like there is also Hifiberry Tidal Connect - so the
implementations are out there.


- https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=297771=75
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread fatuousplatitudes


Jaca wrote: 
> No, that looks OK on your printscreen.. My  picture quality is poor but
> basically it's just more players..
> Sorry not sure what's wrong.. Maybe sync player with mysqueezebox.com on
> lms settings

SUCCESS!!
Thanks to everyone here - all your solutions were helpful, and then a
hard reboot of the desktop (twice: who knows?) and restarting everything
has made Tidal show up and is now streaming.
It first showed up on the Android phone via Squeezer, then on the
handheld Controller, but LMS wasn't showing ANY of My Apps, not even BBC
or Spotty or Bandcamp.
Second reboot of the desktop and it's streaming away fine. Just by
coincidence :) it happens to be Neil Young...

Now to move all those Spotify lists.

Thanks again everyone here for very erudite help. It proves that the
original suggestions for installing the App from mysqueezebox.com and
the plugin, then wait AND REBOOT several times. Good things come and all
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread Jaca


fatuousplatitudes wrote: 
> Thanks, this is useful, if not a solution as yet:
> 
> Yea, this is where something, whatever it is, is amiss.
> I DON'T have that range of options showing in
> mysqueezebox.com37079No, that looks OK on your printscreen.. My  picture 
> quality is poor but
basically it's just more players..
Sorry not sure what's wrong.. Maybe sync player with mysqueezebox.com on
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread fatuousplatitudes


Jaca wrote: 
> Are you sure your player settings have your player enabled under Tidal
> app on mysqueezebox.com? [image:
> https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220131/a1e9b73c24483e7c6a9e8c82e90cafdf.jpg]

Thanks, this is useful, if not a solution as yet:

Yea, this is where something, whatever it is, is amiss.
I DON'T have that range of options showing in
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread Jaca


Are you sure your player settings have your player enabled under Tidal
app on mysqueezebox.com? [image:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220131/a1e9b73c24483e7c6a9e8c82e90cafdf.jpg]



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread fatuousplatitudes


fatuousplatitudes wrote: 
> Yea, I saw that it takes time, but 'overnight' is a bit long...
> 
> I don't see anything in LMS Settings/Player/menu (yea, there's a Spotty
> Spotify menu item) and checked everything I can see/think of in
> mysqueezebox.com
> 
> Looking through Advanced menu (here's Bandcamp, Spotify and TuneIn) but
> can't see any other toggles or relevance. 
> 
> Um..

Well, checked email address and password for Tidal: all correct. Same
email addeess as for LMS and mysqueezebox.com

Restarted LMS as Administrator.

Squuezebox Receiver showing enabled in mysqueezebox.com

but nothing showing in LMS interface or in any menus...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread fatuousplatitudes


bpa wrote: 
> It takes time to sync with mysqueezebox.com.
> Other possible items to check is whether Tidal menu is enabled to be
> displayed on your player - not sure which ones are relevant - there is
> one in LMS Settings/Player/menu and another menu setting on my
> squeezebox.com

Yea, I saw that it takes time, but 'overnight' is a bit long...

I don't see anything in LMS Settings/Player/menu (yea, there's a Spotty
Spotify menu item) and checked everything I can see/think of in
mysqueezebox.com

Looking through Advanced menu (here's Bandcamp, Spotify and TuneIn) but
can't see any other toggles or relevance. 

Um..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread kidstypike


Shutdown & restart LMS?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread Man in a van


fatuousplatitudes wrote: 
> Yes, that's syncing



In the Tidal App on mysqueezebox

Player Settings

do you have the correct Account email address ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread bpa


fatuousplatitudes wrote: 
> Yes, that's syncing
It takes time to sync with mysqueezebox.com.
Other possible items to check is whether Tidal menu is enabled to be
displayed on your player - not sure which ones are relevant - there is
one in LMS Settings/Player/menu and another menu setting on my
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread fatuousplatitudes


bpa wrote: 
> Is syncing with mysqueezebox.com enabled in your LMS
> Settings/mysqueezebox.com

Yes, that's syncing



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread bpa


fatuousplatitudes wrote: 
> WANTING TO SWITCH FROM SPOTIFY TO TIDAL
> I'm running LMS 8.2.1-etc in Windows11 and can't get Tidal to show up in
> My Apps.
> I have the Tidal plug-in (TIDAL v2.0) and the Tidal App from
> mysqueezebox.com installed and configured for my Tidal HiFi a/c, but
> nothing shows even after waiting hours...
> 
> Are there any other options or 'switches' I need to configure anywhere?
> 
> (Didn't have problems with Spotty and Band's Campout)

Is syncing with mysqueezebox.com enabled in your LMS
Settings/mysqueezebox.com



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-31 Thread fatuousplatitudes


bpa wrote: 
> You need to enable Tidal in mysqueezebox and enter your credentials 
> Then after a bit of a delay 30-60 mins, assuming Tidal plugin has been
> installed (TIDAL v2.0) , menu item will appear under My Apps.

WANTING TO SWITCH FROM SPOTIFY TO TIDAL
I'm running LMS 8.2.1-etc in Windows11 and can't get Tidal to show up in
My Apps.
I have the Tidal plug-in (TIDAL v2.0) and the Tidal App from
mysqueezebox.com installed and configured for my Tidal HiFi a/c, but
nothing shows even after waiting hours...

Are there any other options or 'switches' I need to configure anywhere?

(Didn't have problems with Spotty and Band's Campout)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread Jaca

tknx wrote: 
> Yeah we are mostly on iOS and so that isn’t an option. I really want to
> switch off of Spotify, (wanted to for artist pay anyway) but it is
> either find something with similar functionality or switch off of
> Slimserver based devices to Bluesound or Sonos. 
> 
> Amazon HD I think has the best sound quality. But not as good of an app.
> YouTube would be my first pick since my kids watch so much of it.Haven't 
> investigated in depth, but possibly solution for ios devices?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread garym


Jaca wrote: 
> Yeah just been reading that it was shut down in 2019... Weird that Tidal
> still lists it.. Hmm
> 
> So just official mysqueezebox.com app/plugin... Are there any chances
> for proper Tidal connect support?  I guess if it was possible Michael
> would already done it.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread Jaca


garym wrote: 
> I think ickstream has been shut down for several years.  But there is a
> TIDAL app (mysqueezebox.com) and plugin.Yeah just been reading that it was 
> shut down in 2019... Weird that Tidal
still lists it.. Hmm

So just official mysqueezebox.com app/plugin... Are there any chances
for proper Tidal connect support?  I guess if it was possible Michael
would already done it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread garym


Jaca wrote: 
> Ohh yeah I imagine it could be difficult without anything similar to
> connect. Is workable but not as convenient.
> 
> What about ickStream? Does it allow for Tidal connect?
> 
> Have not yet researched it but its listed as Tidal official method of
> listening on squeezebox??

I think ickstream has been shut down for several years.  But there is a
TIDAL app (mysqueezebox.com) and plugin.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread Jaca

tknx wrote: 
> Yeah we are mostly on iOS and so that isn’t an option. I really want to
> switch off of Spotify, (wanted to for artist pay anyway) but it is
> either find something with similar functionality or switch off of
> Slimserver based devices to Bluesound or Sonos. 
> 
> Amazon HD I think has the best sound quality. But not as good of an app.
> YouTube would be my first pick since my kids watch so much of it.Ohh yeah I 
> imagine it could be difficult without anything similar to
connect. Is workable but not as convenient.

What about ickStream? Does it allow for Tidal connect?

Have not yet researched it but its listed as Tidal official method of
listening on squeezebox??



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread tknx

Jaca wrote: 
> No I don't think there is one yet( don't know if ever possible? maybe we
> flood Tidal with API requests )
> But there is android app LMS connect which basically adds option play to
> LMS or queue to LMS when sharing from official android Tidal app.
> Its not same as proper connect but I'm still grateful for it.. 
> I'm new to Tidal too BTW, and also missing subfolders in playlists in
> official Tidal or even basics folder structure in LMS Tidal app
> 
> Its early days but I think I enjoy Tidal hifi quality and probably will
> be able to live with few shortcomings..

Yeah we are mostly on iOS and so that isn’t an option. I really want to
switch off of Spotify, (wanted to for artist pay anyway) but it is
either find something with similar functionality or switch off of
Slimserver based devices to Bluesound or Sonos. 

Amazon HD I think has the best sound quality. But not as good of an app.
YouTube would be my first pick since my kids watch so much of it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread Jaca

tknx wrote: 
> I don’t see anything that allows for Tidal Connect? To me the biggest
> advantage of Spotify is that feature. Am I missing a setting?No I don't think 
> there is one yet( don't know if ever possible? maybe we
flood Tidal with API requests )
But there is android app LMS connect which basically adds option play to
LMS or queue to LMS when sharing from official android Tidal app.
Its not same as proper connect but I'm still grateful for it.. 
I'm new to Tidal too BTW, and also missing subfolders in playlists in
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread tknx

I don’t see anything that allows for Tidal Connect? To me the biggest
advantage of Spotify is that feature. Am I missing a setting?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread ericj


hsmeets wrote: 
> For streaming you can set it to 
> MP3 320kbps
> CD 16b 44.1Khz 
> Hires 24b up to 96Khz
> Hires 24b up to 196Khz
> 
> Their cheapest plan gives access to music in all sample rates. 
> 
> What I see in the classical cataloque is that the majority is 24/96 or
> 24/88 material. It is not upsampled when you set the player to stream at
> 24/196.
> 
> Working assumption is that they stream albums as they get them from the
> labels, including hires (and mqa :-( ).

I have been very happy with Qobuz for my listening.   Stream with FLAC
and have no problems and recent changes in the plugin make it much
easier to save favorites.   Spotify is, unfortunately becoming another
'media' company (as opposed to concentrating on music) and aimed at a
different crowd.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread garym


Spacegrass wrote: 
> Thanks Garym.  myoops.com !

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-30 Thread Spacegrass


Thanks Garym.  myoops.com !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread garym


Spacegrass wrote: 
> In case Julf did not already find this, you go on squeezebox.com to get
> the Tidal app. You need a squeezebox.com account, and Tidal is under
> "App Gallery".
> 

slight correction.  go to *my*squeezebox.com

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread Spacegrass


In case Julf did not already find this, you go on squeezebox.com to get
the Tidal app. You need a squeezebox.com account, and Tidal is under
"App Gallery".

Re Spotify alternatives, and at the risk of angering the open-source
gods, I note that if you have an Apple device you can stream Apple Music
to your Squeezebox/LMS devices using Phillipe's Shairtunes plug-in.  It
is the same monthly price as Spotify, and it is lossless quality,
similar to Tidal.  Obviously, Apple Music does not "integrate" into LMS
as Julf asked, but the Apple Music stream played through Shairtunes does
display the album art and track info in LMS, and you can use the volume
and pause, forward and back controls in LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread Julf


bpa wrote: 
> It is included in standard LMS distribution.  Have you turned off
> mysqueezebox integration ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread bpa


Julf wrote: 
> Tidal does not show up in my available plugins. Does it have to be
> installed separately?
No. It was in my inactive plugins section.

It is included in standard LMS distribution.  Have you turned off
mysqueezebox integration ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread Julf


bpa wrote: 
> You need to enable Tidal in mysqueezebox and enter your credentials 
> Then after a bit of a delay 30-60 mins, assuming Tidal plugin has been
> installed (TIDAL v2.0) , menu item will appear under My Apps.

Tidal does not show up in my available plugins. Does it have to be
installed separately?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread Grumpy Bob


Of course, now all my 'New Music' albums are Qobuz Favourites
transferred from Spotify! I wonder if/how I might deal with that!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread Grumpy Bob


I've been meaning to move from Spotify for some time now (the cash flow
issue*), and the latest rumpus has nudged me to start the process.

I have decided to give Qobuz a whirl (I already have an account for
buying downloads). I've transferred a few playlists and the albums in my
Spotify 'library' to Qobuz. Quite pleased so far. I don't really have
any interest in resolutions above red book standard, but all is good,
obviously there are albums on Spotify that aren't on Qobuz, but since my
primary music listening is done from my local library that doesn't
matter too much.

I can make the final decision whether or not to jump fully to Qobuz
sometime in February - I have a 1 month free trial of Qobuz which more
or less overlaps with my current month of Spotify Premium.

* To be honest, I am not too worried about how much of my Spotify
subscription has gone to artists because if I like something on Spotify,
I buy it as a download, on vinyl or (occasionally on CD). And I
contribute quite a lot to artists that way.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread slartibartfast


hsmeets wrote: 
> For streaming you can set it to 
> MP3 320kbps
> CD 16b 44.1Khz 
> Hires 24b up to 96Khz
> Hires 24b up to 196Khz
> 
> Their cheapest plan gives access to music in all sample rates. 
> 
> What I see in the classical cataloque is that the majority is 24/96 or
> 24/88 material. It is not upsampled when you set the player to stream at
> 24/196.
> 
> Working assumption is that they stream albums as they get them from the
> labels, including hires.How about for that particular MQA album? I have seen 
> other websites
offering hi-res downloads even though the hybrid disc only offers SACD
or MQA-CD.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread hsmeets


slartibartfast wrote: 
> What stream quality do they provide on Qobuz? They offer 3 different
> qualities for download. 
> https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/tuhu-gaelle-solal/qj8tvdbva06pc
> I wonder how they generate the hi-res downloads.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

For streaming you can set it to 
MP3 320kbps
CD 16b 44.1Khz 
Hires 24b up to 96Khz
Hires 24b up to 196Khz

Their cheapest plan gives access to music in all sample rates. 

What I see in the classical cataloque is that the majority is 24/96 or
24/88 material. It is not upsampled when you set the player to stream at
24/196.

Working assumption is that they stream albums as they get them from the
labels, including hires.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread Jaca

Redrum wrote: 
> I am new to Tidal, on a trial, a couple random thoughts:
> 
> 1) If you use android, the simple android app "lms connect" is wonderful
> for using the Tidal android app for your UI, and sharing your selection
> to the Tidal plugin:
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114611-Announce-LMS-Connect-streaming-Tidal-Qobuz-to-LMS-via-native-Android-apps
> I really struggles trying to use the lms plugin as the UI (Of course, I
> probably didn't know what I was doing :) )
> 
> 2) I am not sure about your location, but here in the US, the "holiday
> trial" of 3 months for $1 (HiFi) or $2 (HiFi+) is still available:
> https://tidal.com/offers/holiday-2021
> 
> My early observation is there is allot of current music genres that I am
> not really interested in, but once you start listening to what you are
> interested in, there are allot of relevant suggestions and curated
> playlists.
> 
> JimI'm on £1 for 3months Tidal trial in UK and really hoping that I can
stay.. Wanted to quit Spotify for long time. Apart of fact they  pay
artist peanuts (which should be enough good reason to not use them) I
remember theirs treatment of squeezebox community after dropping
official support and calling my ecosystem " your squeezebox
smartspeaker" and advising me to replace it with Spotify Connect
devices.. I guess recent podcast drama is final straw for me.. I have
actually already cancelled my premium although got another 3 weeks left.
Its funny how cancellation process reminds of amazon prime (another one
on my list to avoid.. Hopefully one day)
Anyway fingers crossed Tidal will meet my needs and I can easily
transfer some of playlists from Spotify



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-29 Thread slartibartfast


hsmeets wrote: 
> On Qobuz you can't escape MQA either. They don't mark/advertise albums
> as MQA but the one or the other album can be MQA'ed. They depend on what
> the labels push to them. Recently stumbled upon such recording, the
> booklet included mentioned it. Hybrid SACD Surround recording with the
> stereo CD layer being MQA'ed.
> 
> https://open.qobuz.com/track/103337668What stream quality do they provide on 
> Qobuz? They offer 3 different
qualities for download. 
https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/tuhu-gaelle-solal/qj8tvdbva06pc
I wonder how they generate the hi-res downloads.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread hsmeets


On Qobuz you can't escape MQA either. They don't mark/advertise albums
as MQA but the one or the other album can be MQA'ed. They depend on what
the labels push to them. Recently stumbled upon such recording, the
booklet included mentioned it. Hybrid SACD Surround recording with the
stereo CD layer being MQA'ed.

https://open.qobuz.com/track/103337668



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread Redrum


I am new to Tidal, on a trial, a couple random thoughts:

1) If you use android, the simple android app "lms connect" is wonderful
for using the Tidal android app for your UI, and sharing your selection
to the Tidal plugin:
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114611-Announce-LMS-Connect-streaming-Tidal-Qobuz-to-LMS-via-native-Android-apps
I really struggles trying to use the lms plugin as the UI (Of course, I
probably didn't know what I was doing :) )

2) I am not sure about your location, but here in the US, the "holiday
trial" of 3 months for $1 (HiFi) or $2 (HiFi+) is still available:
https://tidal.com/offers/holiday-2021

My early observation is there is allot of current music genres that I am
not really interested in, but once you start listening to what you are
interested in, there are allot of relevant suggestions and curated
playlists.

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread bpa


Julf wrote: 
> Hmm. Moral dilemma. Tidal still promotes the MQA scam, Quobuz promotes
> "hi-res" with the utterly misleading (and erroneous) staircase pictures
> a la Sony. OK, neither is killing people, but
Don't pay for the MQA service and so not help the business case.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread Julf


Hmm. Moral dilemma. Tidal still promotes the MQA scam, Quobuz promotes
"hi-res" with the utterly misleading (and erroneous) staircase pictures
a la Sony. OK, neither is killing people, but



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread Julf


bpa wrote: 
> You need to enable Tidal in mysqueezebox and enter your credentials 
> Then after a bit of a delay 30-60 mins, assuming Tidal plugin has been
> installed (TIDAL v2.0) , menu item will appear under My Apps.

Ah! Thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread bpa


Julf wrote: 
> Tidal is available, but I don't have any plugin.
You need to enable Tidal in mysqueezebox and enter your credentials 
Then after a bit of a delay 30-60 mins, assuming Tidal plugin has been
installed (TIDAL v2.0) , menu item will appear under My Apps.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread Julf


garym wrote: 
> I have a TIDAL plugin showing up in my LMS 8.x under plugins.  I'm in
> the US. Is TIDAL available in your country?

Tidal is available, but I don't have any plugin.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread garym


and it is also installed as an APP under my mysqueezebox.com. Maybe you
have to do that as well?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread garym


Julf wrote: 
> I don't see any plugin for it.

I have a TIDAL plugin showing up in my LMS 8.x under plugins.  I'm in
the US. Is TIDAL available in your country?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread Julf


garym wrote: 
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115849-Comparisons-between-current-(2022)-streaming-service-integrations

Thanks!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread garym


https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115849-Comparisons-between-current-(2022)-streaming-service-integrations



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?

2022-01-28 Thread garym


I think TIDAL works with LMS.



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