Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2018-12-22 Thread Viragored


I'd been struggling to get BBC iPlayer and Extras working. Then I found
the -current -(December 2018) thread here:

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109826-BBCiPlayer-V1-6-(and-higher)-amp-BBCiPlayerExtra-2-0-(and-higher)-Support



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2017-03-02 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> I don't know who Systemline are, so I can't help with that.  You might
> want to try a newer version, still in 'test' mode, but most people seem
> to be finding it better.  See
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106409-BBCiPlayer-V1-5-2-beta-test
> 
System line are a UK compnay which have a home audio system based on
LMS. As it is UK based, they use the BBciPlayer& BBciPlayerExtras 
plugin in various forms but have their own support and I think make
their own mods to plugins. 
Only follow Systemline advice if you are a Systemline customer.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2017-03-02 Thread PasTim

crrc wrote: 
> Following a reinstall of LMS on my Synology NAS I have "re-plugged in"
> Triode's BBC iPlayer and now I am not getting any graphics or "now
> playing" information on BBC radio (3 as it happens).
> 
> One thing that might be relevant is that following a google search I
> followed instructions from Systemline, which suggested that as Triode
> was no longer online I should unplug the Triode plug-in, add their
> repository and following updates, their own version of iPlayer would
> appear. 
> 
> Anyway I added the respository and unplugged Triode, and no other option
> appeared. So re-plugged in Triode and its working fine but no graphics.
> All that might be completely irrelevant but thought I would add it. 
> 
> Any thoughts about how to get the graphics back. Not a major issue but
> nice to have. Reluctant to take out the respository unless the view is
> that either it is completely unnecessary or perhaps even causing the
> problem.
> 
> There may be a switch or simple procedure that I am missing. Quite
> likely.
I don't know who Systemline are, so I can't help with that.  You might
want to try a newer version, still in 'test' mode, but most people seem
to be finding it better.  See
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?106409-BBCiPlayer-V1-5-2-beta-test



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2017-03-02 Thread crrc

Following a reinstall of LMS on my Synology NAS I have "re-plugged in"
Triode's BBC iPlayer and now I am not getting any graphics or "now
playing" information on BBC radio (3 as it happens).

One thing that might be relevant is that following a google search I
followed instructions from Systemline, which suggested that as Triode
was no longer online I should unplug the Triode plug-in, add their
repository and following updates, their own version of iPlayer would
appear. 

Anyway I added the respository and unplugged Triode, and no other option
appeared. So re-plugged in Triode and its working fine but no graphics.
All that might be completely irrelevant but thought I would add it. 

Any thoughts about how to get the graphics back. Not a major issue but
nice to have. Reluctant to take out the respository unless the view is
that either it is completely unnecessary or perhaps even causing the
problem.

There may be a switch or simple procedure that I am missing. Quite
likely.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread bpa

PaulinPosset wrote: 
> Done a bit of further digging and it appears that you can select which
> stream you want.
> 
> From the 'Tunein Radio' options sub-menu there is the option to chose
> the stream.
> 
> I use BBC iPlayer 1.4.9 which I find to be extremely reliable and solid
> but this may be of use to others?

That's good to know.  

For the benefit of other readers.  The HLS streams have a MIME type and
the PlayHLS plugin associated that MIME type with a transcoder using
ffmepg/avconv to play the stream. 

Some users have reported less "rebuffering" when using ffmpeg/avconv to
play live BBC streams.  Using PlayHLS with ffmpeg/avconv requires more
CPU & memory than the BBCiPlayer 1.4.9 and also requires the end user to
find a compatible version of avconv /ffmpeg that works on their system.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread PaulinPosset

bpa wrote: 
> It looks like an addition in 7.9
> 
> The requested formats in the URL in 7.8 is
> formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice
> The requested formats in the URL in 7.9 is
> formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice,hls
> 
> 7.9 asks for HLS streams to be included and Tune in returns the
> following playlist for me (non UK).  It means that playing the same
> Tune-in you could get different quality.
> http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/vpid/bbc_radio_two/format/pls.pls
> http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
> http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/llnw/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
> http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_vlow/llnw/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
> http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_vlow/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8

Done a bit of further digging and it appears that you can select which
stream you want.

>From the 'Tunein Radio' options sub-menu there is the option to chose
the stream.

I use BBC iPlayer 1.4.9 which I find to be extremely reliable and solid
but this may be of use to others?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread bpa

It looks like an addition in 7.9

The requested formats in the URL in 7.8 is
formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice
The requested formats in the URL in 7.9 is
formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice,hls

7.9 asks for HLS streams to be included and Tune in returns the
following playlist for me (non UK).  It means that playing the same
Tune-in you could get different quality.
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/vpid/bbc_radio_two/format/pls.pls
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/llnw/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_vlow/llnw/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_vlow/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread PaulinPosset

slartibartfast wrote: 
> http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s24940&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice,hls&partnerId=16&serial=89921d7a11efbc9fe6be2fba2c0686b0
> 
> This is Radio 2. I do have playHLS  installed. 
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Just to add a bit more info to Slartibartfast's findings.

If you select BBC Radio 2 from the 'Tunein Radio' app in My Apps the
stream will be a 128 mp3. But if you select under Radio>Local>National
Networks>Explore UK National>BBC>Stations(7)>BBC Radio 2 the stream is
an Apple HLS stream. It doesn't state the bitrate though.
I'm in the UK with Play HLS installed on a Win 7 machine and LMS 7.9.0 -
1475786002.

Anyways.. back to work!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread slartibartfast

bpa wrote: 
> Interesting - all I get is the MP3 streams.
> 
> What opml.radiotime.com URL is showing in your search to get these HSL
> stations ?
> What version of LMS ?
> Do you have PlayHLS plugin installed ?
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s24940&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice,hls&partnerId=16&serial=89921d7a11efbc9fe6be2fba2c0686b0

This is Radio 2. I do have playHLS  installed. 

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread d6jg

Still 128kbps here



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread bpa

slartibartfast wrote: 
> I was using tune in within LMS from the Radio menu. It actually defaults
> to HLS format now. 
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Interesting - all I get is the MP3 streams.

What opml.radiotime.com URL is showing in your search to get these HSL
stations ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread slartibartfast

I was using tune in within LMS from the Radio menu. It actually defaults
to HLS format now. 

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread bpa

slartibartfast wrote: 
> I was surprised to find that 320kbps  HLS was now available as a stream
> option using Tune In. I only looked at Radio 2 but I assume the others
> are also available.

Sorry, I was only referring to Tune-in within LMS.  The BBC HLS (aka
m3u8 ) live streams can be played using other players (or through LMS
with the right plugin) 
The HLS streams are available in a number of speed depending on the URL
(and also UK vs Non UK) sbr_vlow, sbr_low, sbr_med and sbr_high and also
through two CDNS ak and llnw

example:
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_vlow/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_radio_three.m3u8



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread slartibartfast

bpa wrote: 
> Tune in plays the BBC shoutcast streams which are all 128k MP3 for UK
> and non UK except R3 which is 320K AAC for UK.  IIRC BBC wanted to kill
> the shoutcast streams last year but couldn't as there were too many user
> dependent on http/MP3 vs HLS. I think BBC are still committed to
> stopping Shoutcast streams first as they are inefficient/inflexible in
> terms of network and server power.
> 
> Try them.
> 
> http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls
> http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls
I was surprised to find that 320kbps  HLS was now available as a stream
option using Tune In. I only looked at Radio 2 but I assume the others
are also available. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread bpa

Evertjanus wrote: 
> Sorry if I seemed complaining. Thanks for clearing things up. Thought I
> was doing something wrong, as some radiostations (Naim exclusive's Radio
> Paradise e.g.) manage to stream at 320 kbps MP3, as the BBC stations in
> TuneIn do...

Tune in plays the BBC shoutcast streams which are all 128k MP3 for UK
and non UK except R3 which is 320K AAC for UK.

Try them.

http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-11 Thread Evertjanus

bpa wrote: 
> 96kbps AAC is sort of equivalent to 128Kbps MP3.  
> 
> This is a big improvement when BBC only used to send 48kbps with 32kHz
> sampling for non UK only about 1-2 years ago.  It is very nice as non UK
> user pay nothing to BBC or UK gov and there are no ads.

Sorry if I seemed complaining. Thanks for clearing things up. Thought I
was doing something wrong, as some radiostations (Naim exclusive's Radio
Paradise e.g.) manage to stream at 320 kbps!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-10 Thread Owen Smith

bpa wrote: 
> 96kbps AAC is sort of equivalent to 128Kbps MP3.  
> 
> This is a big improvement when BBC only used to send 48kbps with 32kHz
> sampling for non UK only about 1-2 years ago.  It is very nice as non UK
> user pay nothing to BBC or UK gov and there are no ads.

I've always thought of there being a factor of 2 between AAC and MP3, so
96kbps AAC would be equivalent to 192kbps MP3. Factors such as HE-AAC,
AAC LC, and Joint Stereo or not for MP3 complicate matters.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-10 Thread bpa

Evertjanus wrote: 
> Lately, I've noticed that too: BBC streaming outside UK at 96 kbps. That
> the equivalent of a very bad MP3, is it not? And far from being a snob,
> I seem to notice it too. Is there any change of improvement or is it all
> in the hands of Auntie Beeb now?t

96kbps AAC is sort of equivalent to 128Kbps MP3.  

This is a big improvement when BBC only used to send 48kbps with 32kHz
sampling for non UK only about 1-2 years ago.  It is very nice as non UK
user pay nothing to BBC or UK gov and there are no ads.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-10-10 Thread Evertjanus

Lately, I've noticed that too: BBC streaming outside UK at 96 kbps. That
the equivalent of a very bad MP3, is it not? And far from being a snob,
I seem to notice it too. Is there any change of improvement or is it all
in the hands of Auntie Beeb now?

Regards and compliments to bba,

Evert



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-07-16 Thread hazymat

Hi

I've followed the instructions on the first post (as of today 16 July
2016). The following works for me:

- Listen Again (e.g. Radio 3)
- Listen Live (e.g. Radio 4)
- Show synopsis and images from the feeds (i.e. cover art)

However, Listen Again Radio 4 doesn't work for me at all.

I'm on Windows, I've copied the patched faad.exe, and also followed
other instructions for Windows.

In Settings > Advanced > File Types, the MP3 option is disabled for each
entry.

Do I need to do something to enable that?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-07-09 Thread bpa

gian wrote: 
> BPA,
> 
> thanks for your reply.
> 
> I usually listen live, so I check the "listen again" only when I miss
> something live.
> 
> I think last time was the "last night of the Proms" last September.
> 
> Now I was looking for the Opera North Ring cycle.
> 
> Does the stream from the Extra plugin is of the same quality of
> Triode's?
> 
> If so, I will not investigate longer why the Triode stream doesn't
> start...
> 
> In this moment, Rheingold is streaming at 48bps CBR, aac.
> 
> -G
In the past Extra has been the same quality or better than BBCiPlayer
plugin.
Many things have changed in BBC since last Sept. There have been changes
to audio formats (e.g. Flash no longer supported, etc).   The highest
non UK user can play HLS format is 48kbps.  However BBC have DASH format
(replace Flash etc) in beta and same program is available in 96kbps to
non UK uses but you'll need to install the test version of BBCiPlayer
and BBCiPlayer and change setting to use DASH ( i.e. remove the old
googlecode repsootiroes and replace with the one specificed in this
thread
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104672-BBCiPlayer-with-DASH-support-test-version
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-07-09 Thread gian

BPA,

thanks for your reply.

I usually listen live, so I check the "listen again" only when I miss
something live.

I think last time was the "last night of the Proms" last September.

Now I was looking for the Opera North Ring cycle.

Does the stream from the Extra plugin is of the same quality of
Triode's?

If so, I will not investigate longer why the Triode stream doesn't
start...

In this moment, Rheingold is streaming at 48bps CBR, aac.

-G



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-07-09 Thread bpa

gian wrote: 
> How should I fix this?

You have two separate and unrelated issues.

1. Google has limited access to googloecode as part of their rundown of
the service. So the Googlecode repository URLs are no longer valid.  The
non BBCiPlayer plugins have been migrated to another repository by
Mherger (as Triode is no longer online)  and myself and do not need
special repository URLs to be added to LMS. In relation to the
BBCiPlayer plugin - the current versions are OK so change nothing.

2. The BBCiPlayer stream not playing.  

I am also outside the UK and BBC stream have become a bit unreliable in
recent days.  Any message in the LMS log file ?

When was the last time the BBCiPlayer (not Extra) played streams ?  
The BBCiPlayer and Extra uses different feeds for program info - often
the BBCiplayer (which uses the offical BBC feed) menu have missing
programs and can take over 24 hours to be corrected.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-07-08 Thread gian

hello All,

sorry but after browsing all the thread I'm a bit confused.

Here is the situation: BBC iPlayer plugin v1.3.1alpha3, Extra v1.8,
server 7.9.0 - 1467729831 on armv7, outside UK.

If I browse iPlayer for, say, last Tuesday Radio3 in Concert, it will
load the link with the program image, but stream won't start.

However if I go through BBC iPlayer Extra, R for Radio 3 in Concert, it
fill find the program and play it without problems.

Is this due to the fact I'm outside UK? maybe Brexit has changed how the
plugin works... just kidding!

Also, the settings/plugin page shows:
Bad repository http://bpaplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/repo-short.xml
- 404 Not Found
Bad repository
http://triodeplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/testrepo.xml - 404 Not
Found
Bad repository
http://bpaplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/repo-playhls.xml - 404 Not
Found

How should I fix this?

Thanks for your time and advice,

-Gian



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-25 Thread HeadBanger

Thanks all. I am using the bpa DASH/HLS plugin but had wrongly assumed
that it worked in tandem with Triode's.

I'll not worry about the LMS reported error then and will remove the
Triode repository link.

HB



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-24 Thread Owen Smith

bpa wrote: 
> DASH is still in beta test in BBC  and the plugin still has bugs.

That may be. But your iPlayer plugin defaults to HLS only which is not
in beta test at the BBC, and your plugin is the only one we have that
just works and doesn't require the user to mess about downloading
replacement files to get their iPlayer to work.

And the last Triode "alpha" plugin is far from bug free itself.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread bpa

> kidstypike;854084



DASH is still in beta test in BBC  and the plugin still has bugs.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread Owen Smith

mherger wrote: 
> I have no clue about iPlayer. I only picked up what was left from 
> Triode's repository to put it elsewhere. It hosts much more than just 
> the BBCiPlayer plugin. I can remove iPlayer from that list if it makes 
> sense.

That's a subject for debate. Personally I'd like to see bpa's version in
the thread below become the official iPlayer plugin since it just works
without patching and is actively supported:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104672-BBCiPlayer-with-DASH-support-test-version

But this requires bpa's agreement really.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread kidstypike

Owen Smith wrote: 
> That's a subject for debate. Personally I'd like to see bpa's version in
> the thread below become the official iPlayer plugin since it just works
> without patching and is actively supported:
> 
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104672-BBCiPlayer-with-DASH-support-test-version
> 
> But this requires bpa's agreement really.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread Owen Smith

d6jg wrote: 
> Michael has picked up Ttiode's plugins and is hosting them elsewhere. He
> posted about it a day or two ago.

Where? A url to the relevant thread would be useful.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread Michael Herger

But what's the point? The last Triode iPlayer plugin does not work at
all unless some of the files in it are manually patched using these
various fix guides. Given we've had a complete and working Dash and HLS
plugin from bpa since some time in January, why not just switch to that
as the official version?


I have no clue about iPlayer. I only picked up what was left from 
Triode's repository to put it elsewhere. It hosts much more than just 
the BBCiPlayer plugin. I can remove iPlayer from that list if it makes 
sense.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread Owen Smith

mherger wrote: 
> > Has Triode's repository location changed? LMS reports:
> > Bad repository
> > http://triodeplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/testrepo.xml - 404 Not
> > Found
> 
> Yes, Google has shut down those sites. It's now hosted on my server. You
> 
> shouldn't need to configure anything manually. Just remove the old
> entry.

But what's the point? The last Triode iPlayer plugin does not work at
all unless some of the files in it are manually patched using these
various fix guides. Given we've had a complete and working Dash and HLS
plugin from bpa since some time in January, why not just switch to that
as the official version?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread d6jg

Michael has picked up Ttiode's plugins and is hosting them elsewhere. He
posted about it a day or two ago.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread Michael Herger

Has Triode's repository location changed? LMS reports:
Bad repository
http://triodeplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/testrepo.xml - 404 Not
Found


Yes, Google has shut down those sites. It's now hosted on my server. You 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread Owen Smith

HeadBanger wrote: 
> Has Triode's repository location changed? LMS reports:
> Bad repository
> http://triodeplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/testrepo.xml - 404 Not
> Found
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> HB

Google are closing googlecode, the repository is probably dead.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-05-23 Thread HeadBanger

Has Triode's repository location changed? LMS reports:
Bad repository
http://triodeplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/testrepo.xml - 404 Not
Found

Thanks,

HB



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-04-13 Thread bpa

avinunca1 wrote: 
> I am running LMS on a MacBook. I am using the BBC DASH plugin. I get a
> loud high pitched whistle/data noise when I have my Pink Triangle
> Ordinal DAC plugged 
> into my SBT (coax link) and select BBC.  Tidal however is fine as well
> as anything I receive from an internet radio station on the SBT itself. 

It "feels" like you have special filetypes settings and it has something
to do with a PCM stream - this is the WRONG thread for DASH plugin
queries.  Please post on the BBCiplayer with DASh test plugin thread.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-04-13 Thread PasTim

avinunca1 wrote: 
> I am running LMS on a MacBook. I am using the BBC DASH plugin. I get a
> loud high pitched whistle/data noise when I have my Pink Triangle
> Ordinal DAC plugged 
> into my SBT (coax link) and select BBC.  Tidal however is fine as well
> as anything I receive from an internet radio station on the SBT itself.
> 
> If I select the BBC the noise starts and continues until I
> select another source like Tidal.
> I would prefer to use my Ordinal DAC as SQ is better. I get no noise
> using the SBT internal DAC.
> The problem occurs running LMS on my Windows laptop too and with other
> BBC plugins.
> I imagine this is something to do with the data stream being
> incompatible with my DAC unless anyone knows better.
> Any advice please.  Thanks Michael
Try changing the settings in Settings, File Types, aac. Maybe just allow
conversion to mp3 or flac and see if that works?

This isn't really the best thread for advice on this type of issue, and
if you don't get a solution soon I suggest you go to the BBC DASH
thread.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-04-13 Thread avinunca1

I am running LMS on a MacBook. I am using the BBC DASH plugin. I get a
loud high pitched whistle/data noise when I have my Pink Triangle
Ordinal DAC plugged 
into my SBT (coax link) and select BBC.  Tidal however is fine as well
as anything I receive from an internet radio station on the SBT itself.

If I select the BBC the noise starts and continues until I
select another source like Tidal.
I would prefer to use my Ordinal DAC as SQ is better.
The problem occurs running LMS on my Windows laptop too and with other
BBC plugins.
I imagine this is something to do with the data stream being
incompatible with my DAC unless anyone knows better.
Any advice please.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-03-31 Thread PasTim

andrewhunterjohnston wrote: 
> Thank you for saying that!
> I too have struggled to understand what this is all about and have so
> far failed to get BBC Listen Again to work. 
> 
> In particular, I have no idea what this means: 
> 
> Install updated BBCXMLParser.pm file to fix a problem with BBC iPlayer
> "Listen Again" 
> See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...l=1#post834111 for the
> patched program. There is currently no automated way of updating this
> file. You therefore have to replace this file in the BBCiPlayer folder.
> On ubuntu linux this is in
> /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCiPlayer .
> For other platforms you need to to find the file. Before replacing the
> file you should stop LMS. In all cases you need to check that the access
> rights for the file are the same as for other files in the same folder
> (so that LMS can run it).
> 
> Is there anyone in SW London who could help me? (For a bottle of wine!)
Apologies for not being clear, but what it really means is that if you
don't already know how to replace files with patched files, then I can't
help you, since there are many variations on setups and platforms and
I'm only using one of them.  Some familiarity with files, directories
and access rights is a necessity.  Sorry.

As Owen Smith says, try the test Dash solution, mentioned in the first
post on this thread, or in his reply to you.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-03-31 Thread Owen Smith

I suggest you go with the new Dash compatible iPlayer plugin from bpa.
You don't need to use Dash, it works with the old protocols. The great
benefit of this plugin is it just works, no need for patches. There's
another thread about it somewhere.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-03-31 Thread andrewhunterjohnston

Owen Smith wrote: 
> I have no idea how to do any of that, sorry. I've never dealt with patch
> files, gitbhub, vendor directories etc. And Michael may already have
> some of this stuff, I just don't know.
> 
> And really, it would be far better for the person that fixed the source
> code and built the new faad.exe to do it, they could ensure all the
> right information is supplied. They may already have supplied it all.
> 
> Plus it seems strange to me that we're even discussing uploading
> binaries to source control. Shouldn't faad.exe be compiled from the
> source for every release?

Thank you for saying that!
I too have struggled to understand what this is all about and have so
far failed to get BBC Listen Again to work. 

In particular, I have no idea what this means: 

Install updated BBCXMLParser.pm file to fix a problem with BBC iPlayer
"Listen Again" 
See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...l=1#post834111 for the
patched program. There is currently no automated way of updating this
file. You therefore have to replace this file in the BBCiPlayer folder.
On ubuntu linux this is in
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCiPlayer .
For other platforms you need to to find the file. Before replacing the
file you should stop LMS. In all cases you need to check that the access
rights for the file are the same as for other files in the same folder
(so that LMS can run it).

Is there anyone in SW London who could help me? (For a bottle of wine!)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-03-30 Thread Viragored

I don't know if this helps, but in the attached file is a screen shot of
what I am seeing from Radio 4 FM. It's a bit more than basic text.
The shot is from the standard web interface of Logitech Media Server,
running on my Vortexbox. Details of my iPlayer installation, following
the first post in this thread, are higher up.


+---+
|Filename: Capture.JPG  |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=20202|
+---+


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-03-30 Thread Zoltan

All I see is minimal text such as BBC Radio 4. I'm not sure if I should
be seeing anything else. I could dig out my old Pi server to compare but
it's going a bit awkward for the next couple of days.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-03-30 Thread PasTim

Zoltan wrote: 
> Recently I finally got around to putting my Odroid U3 properly into
> service to replace my v1 Pi-based server. This is using Max2Play.  I
> followed the quick fix guide in the current thread to get the BBC
> plugins up and running and they are working great apart from one thing. 
> When I play a live stream, there is no logo showing - just a blank
> screen.  I get this on the Touch, Radio and in Orange Squeeze on my
> phone.  It's not a major problem but I wondered if I'd missed something
> in the set up or whether this is something that just isn't working at
> the moment.
> 
> Last time I asked for advice on the BBC plugins on this forum, it was on
> the main BBCiPlayer thread and I ended up following this present set of
> instructions.  Looking back at my post there and the replies, there was
> some mention of a menu.opml file and I wonder if this had something to
> do with this problem but I'm not able to figure out from what was
> written there exactly what I had to do (in particular, where to get it
> from). I'm dubious anyway with it not being mentioned in the
> instructions in the first post of this thread, which seems to have been
> actively kept up to date.
> 
> Apologies if I'm being dense but thanks in advance for any advice!
Are you saying you have no text as well as no logo?  There may be some
options under the Settings, Advanced, BBC iPlayer option.   It may be to
do with the menu.opml file but that's a bit beyond my knowledge, and
I've been using the 'test' DASH solution for some time now so can't test
it for myself.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-03-29 Thread Zoltan

Recently I finally got around to putting my Odroid U3 properly into
service to replace my v1 Pi-based server. This is using Max2Play.  I
followed the quick fix guide in the current thread to get the BBC
plugins up and running and they are working great apart from one thing. 
When I play a live stream, there is no logo showing - just a blank
screen.  I get this on the Touch, Radio and in Orange Squeeze on my
phone.  It's not a major problem but I wondered if I'd missed something
in the set up or whether this is something that just isn't working at
the moment.

Last time I asked for advice on the BBC plugins on this forum, it was on
the main BBCiPlayer thread and I ended up following this present set of
instructions.  Looking back at my post there and the replies, there was
some mention of a menu.opml file and I wonder if this had something to
do with this problem but I'm not able to figure out from what was
written there exactly what I had to do (in particular, where to get it
from). I'm dubious anyway with it not being mentioned in the
instructions in the first post of this thread, which seems to have been
actively kept up to date.

Apologies if I'm being dense but thanks in advance for any advice!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-14 Thread Julf

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Why would people ask SqueezeBox questions over there? The horses mouth
> is this site surely?

Because there you can post all kinds of speculations and opinions
without too many people who actually know what they are talking about
correcting you? :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-12 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> Thanks very much indeed.  I'll attend to this detail soon.  
> 
> At least one person had found that the BBCiPlayerExtra 1.8 repo wasn't
> available for a while, and I found the same, but then it re-appeared.  I
> guess that was a googlecode issue.  My understanding is that googlecode
> will remain open for downloads until the end of 2016.  Is that your
> understanding?

I think Google wording is ambiguous - the archive will be available
until 2016 at least but whether access to individual files using http
will remain is unclear. Either way both plugins will be disabled at the
same time so a common solution is needed. Unfortunately finding a host
which can give trouble free http download to a repository URL is not
easy. Github doesn't work for all users and sourceforge also has
problems but on a per project basis.

I'll ask Michael to remove references to BBCiPlayer v.1.2.14 and my
BBCiPlayerExtra V1.7 from the Logitech repository as I think it just
adds to confusion.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-12 Thread PasTim

bpa wrote: 
> A quick review of Page 1 instructions.
> 
> I found no problem with the instruction - I did a complete clear and
> install but I didn't read through the text each step as I was just
> testing the fundamentals.
> 
> Some comments regarding uninstall and then install.
> 
> 1. If all BBCiPlayer and BBCiPlayerExtra plugins are disabled - they
> will not be uninstalled until after a restart so any associated
> repository URLS must be deleted at the same time and then LMS restarted
> for plugins to be removed.  Whenever a plugin is disabled or a
> repository URL change  LMS must be restarted.
> 2. After each restart of LMS when adding respositories and
> enabling/disabling plugins - the Settings/Plugin tab must be reloaded -
> if user keeps Plugin tab open between LMS restarts, changes to Plugin
> tab will not be shown and if apply clicked - strange results may
> happen.
> 3. With no repositories are defined - Logitech have repositories for old
> versions of the BBCiPlayer (1.2.14) and BBCiPlayer Extra (v1.07) show up
> in the plugin list.  Michael needs to be told to remove these as they
> are useless and confusing.
> 4. The googlecode Repository URLs for Triode's BBCiPlayer 1.3.1alpha3
> and BBCiPlayerExtra 1.8 are still valid - it seems Google have reversed
> some of their googlecode changes made in mid Jan.  However when
> googlecode is shutdown BOTH urls will die. 
> 5. Once the BBCXML.pm file of BBCiPlayer is replaced - I found no
> problem with BBCiPlayer 1.3.1alpha3 and it worked OK with
> BBCiPlayerExtra 1.8.  
> 6. The instructions should tell users to halt LMS before replacing
> BBCXML.pm file.
> 7. The BBCiPlayerExtra V1.8 may die shortly when BBC removes the
> FlashAAC (aka RTMP) support.  
> 8.  Is the Windows faad.zip update not part of LMS 7.9 or has Michael
> not been told about this faad problem ?
> 9. The "Show Live Text" should be disabled as RadioVis has been stopped
> and when enabled seems to prevent some LIve (non-uk) streams from
> playing with a coding error logged.
Thanks very much indeed.  I'll attend to this detail soon.  

At least one person had found that the BBCiPlayerExtra 1.8 repo wasn't
available for a while, and I found the same, but then it re-appeared.  I
guess that was a googlecode issue.  My understanding is that googlecode
will remain open for downloads until the end of 2016.  Is that your
understanding?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread Owen Smith

bpa wrote: 
> Can you generate an updated patch file from the faad2.7 in Vendor
> directory and then send patch file to michael to update the Vendor
> directory.
> https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver-vendor/tree/public/7.9/faad2

I have no idea how to do any of that, sorry. I've never dealt with patch
files, gitbhub, vendor directories etc. And Michael may already have
some of this stuff, I just don't know.

And really, it would be far better for the person that fixed the source
code and built the new faad.exe to do it, they could ensure all the
right information is supplied. They may already have supplied it all.

Plus it seems strange to me that we're even discussing uploading
binaries to source control. Shouldn't faad.exe be compiled from the
source for every release?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

Owen Smith wrote: 
> No-one seems to know what the official LMS situation is with the updated
> faad.exe for Windows. I believe Michael was informed of the problem but
> otherwise it's all gone very quiet. I try to keep track of this since
> I'm running it.

Can you generate an updated patch file from the faad2.7 in Vendor
directory and then send patch file to michael to update the Vendor
directory.
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver-vendor/tree/public/7.9/faad2



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread Owen Smith

No-one seems to know what the official LMS situation is with the updated
faad.exe for Windows. I believe Michael was informed of the problem but
otherwise it's all gone very quiet. I try to keep track of this since
I'm running it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> I would be most grateful if you would review post 1 on this thread and
> tell me if it's wrong for BBCiPlayerExtra.

A quick review of Page 1 instructions.

I found no problem with the instruction - I did a complete clear and
install but I didn't read through the text each step as I was just
testing the fundamentals.

Some comments regarding uninstall and then install.

1. If all BBCiPlayer and BBCiPlayerExtra plugins are disabled - they
will not be uninstalled until after a restart so any associated
repository URLS must be deleted at the same time and then LMS restarted
for plugins to be removed.  Whenever a plugin is disabled or a
repository URL change  LMS must be restarted.
2. After each restart of LMS when adding respositories and
enabling/disabling plugins - the Settings/Plugin tab must be reloaded -
if user keeps Plugin tab open between LMS restarts, changes to Plugin
tab will not be shown and if apply clicked - strange results may
happen.
3. With no repositories are defined - Logitech have repositories for old
versions of the BBCiPlayer (1.2.14) and BBCiPlayer Extra (v1.07) show up
in the plugin list.  Michael needs to be told to remove these as they
are useless and confusing.
4. The googlecode Repository URLs for Triode's BBCiPlayer 1.3.1alpha3
and BBCiPlayerExtra 1.8 are still valid - it seems Google have reversed
some of their googlecode changes made in mid Jan.  However when
googlecode is shutdown BOTH urls will die. 
5. Once the BBCXML.pm file of BBCiPlayer is replaced - I found no
problem with BBCiPlayer 1.3.1alpha3 and it worked OK with
BBCiPlayerExtra 1.8.  
6. The instructions should tell users to halt LMS before replacing
BBCXML.pm file.
7. The BBCiPlayerExtra V1.8 may die shortly when BBC removes the
FlashAAC (aka RTMP) support.  
8.  Is the Windows faad.zip update not part of LMS 7.9 or has Michael
not been told about this faad problem ?
9. The "Show Live Text" should be disabled as RadioVis has been stopped
and when enabled seems to prevent some LIve (non-uk) streams from
playing with a coding error logged.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread PasTim

bpa wrote: 
> The BBCiPlayerExtra was created by me and maintained by me. Questions
> about it should be directed to the BBCiplayerExtra thread.  If I don't
> see the BBCiPlayerEXtra queries on its thread or on a topic title - I
> can't know there is a problem.
I would be most grateful if you would review post 1 on this thread and
tell me if it's wrong for BBCiPlayerExtra.



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Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
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Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> The only problem for such as formbypc is that this thread does,
> currently, address iPlayerExtra as well.  Although I have looked at some
> of the iPlayerExtra thread I'm pretty much baffled as to what version
> can and should be used with iPlayer 1.3.x, or how to get it, and hence
> don't know what to do with post 1 on this thread, nor how to answer
> questions about it.  I'm also unsure whether the iPlayerExtra thread
> also supports DASH or not.  I know the answer may seem simple to some
> here, but for me at least, it isn't.
> 
> I really do need advice from some of the experts about this.

The BBCiPlayerExtra was created by me and maintained by me. Questions
about it should be directed to the BBCiplayerExtra thread.  If I don't
see the BBCiPlayerEXtra queries on its thread or on a topic title - I
can't know there is a problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread PasTim

bpa wrote: 
> You have a mismatched installation and it needs to be tidied up.
> 
> For the moment forget about BBCiPlayerExtra and any comment about
> BBCiPlayerEXtra should be posted on the BBCiPlayerExtra thread - that
> will avoid confusion.
> 
> now regarding BBCiPlayer you have to decide what do you want to install
> and there are only two choices for LMS BBCiPlayer plugin 
> 1. Triodes BBCiPlayer 1.3.x which needs patches as per the posts at top
> of this thread.
> 2. A test version of BBCiPlayer plugin which has patches for HLS
> included and includes support for DASH format which is on beta test by
> BBC.
> 
> If you want to do 1 - stay on this thread and only listen to PasTim.;
> if you want to do 2 - leave this thread and post on the test plugin
> thread
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104672-BBCiPlayer-with-DASH-support-test-version
The only problem for such as formbypc is that this thread does,
currently, address iPlayerExtra as well.  Although I have looked at some
of the iPlayerExtra thread I'm pretty much baffled as to what version
can and should be used with iPlayer 1.3.x, or how to get it, and hence
don't know what to do with post 1 on this thread, nor how to answer
questions about it.  I'm also unsure whether the iPlayerExtra thread
also supports DASH or not.  I know the answer may seem simple to some
here, but for me at least, it isn't.

I really do need advice from some of the experts about this.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

formbypc wrote: 
> So how do I tell if I've got both of them, having used that corrected
> repo URL? 

You have a mismatched installation and it needs to be tidied up.

For the moment forget about BBCiPlayerExtra and any comment about
BBCiPlayerEXtra should be posted on the BBCiPlayerExtra thread - that
will avoid confusion.

now regarding BBCiPlayer you have to decide what do you want to install
and there are only two choices for LMS BBCiPlayer plugin 
1. Triodes BBCiPlayer 1.3.x which needs patches as per the posts at top
of this thread.
2. A test version of BBCiPlayer plugin which has patches for HLS
included and includes support for DASH format which is on beta test by
BBC.

If you want to do 1 - stay on this thread and only listen to PasTim.;
if you want to do 2 - leave this thread and post on the test plugin
thread
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104672-BBCiPlayer-with-DASH-support-test-version



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread formbypc

bpa wrote: 
> The repository URL I gave earlier provides the feeds for the 1.4.7
> BBCiPlayer and V 1.9.3 of BBCiPlayerExtra plugins. 

So how do I tell if I've got both of them, having used that corrected
repo URL? 

I have a Triode BBC iPlayer in my list of inactive plugins, and your
iPlayer Extra under a heading "bpa's squeezecenter plugins short", but
no apparent display of version numbers



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread PasTim

We're on a thread in a forum about a very few alternative solutions to
playing radio stations, and we collectively still manage to generate
some confusion and (minor) disagreements even though we all want pretty
much the same thing and are generally positive towards one another.

Now imagine you are in Geneva trying to get people to even talk to each
other so as to stop a war, or (for UK readers) trying to get a contract
settlement for Junior Doctors.  Impossible!

So on balance we're doing OK :)

However, I still need help to decide what to do with the 1st post for
newcomers.  It needs to be as complete and accurate as possible for the
solution after the playHLS version, prior to the test DASH version.  As
far as I know the only thing wrong with it as of today (11th Feb) is
that the specified iPlayerExtra repo doesn't exist any more.

Guidance please!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread Man in a van

Right oh.

I might as well give my side.

*bpa* is correct in that apparently *formbypc* posted on the wrong
thread ( a simple mistake).

What happened, is that some one posted on pfm asking for help on
installing DASH.

I replied with a simple guide, which he followed and completed
successfully.

At the same time, another forum member posted on pfm about the HLS
version and it is from this, that the confusion arose (I think).

When I saw the post by *formbypc* here I replied on pfm and advised him
(on this thread) that I had done so (I assumed he wanted DASH).

I also posted on pfm that if he followed my guide he should succeed with
installing the DASH version.

However, he seems to have missed that and yesterday evening I sent him a
PM on pfm explaining some of the confusion and that he should ignore any
posting by me, unless he wanted the DASH version.

It's just a bit of confusion really (and I had also forgotten about the
sad demise of "The Memory Man"  what a back-handed compliment that
turned out to be!)


Sorry about that:o

Ronnie.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> I'd like to keep this thread that way if I can

I don't inject references to the test-plugin into this thread - others
do but I try to pick up the pieces when it goes wrong.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread PasTim

bpa wrote: 
> The aim is get people talking about the same thing in the right place -
> otherwise we have this tangled mess. 
> 
> BBCiPlayer Extra is separate from BBCiPlayer and the test-repo should
> not be given to user who are not willing or do not want to use the test
> BBCiPlayer.
> 
> The BBCiPlayerEXtra repo URL only died in mid Jan because of Googlecode
> retirement.  A new repo BBCiPlayerExtra needs to be setup.
> 
> However the future of BBCiPlayerExtra is still in doubt because of
> changes by BBC and removal of Flash so I believe this thread should not
> really deal with BBCiPlayerExtra as there could be considerable turmoil
> ahead and so all BBCiPlayerExtra issues should be directed to its own
> thread
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?72709-Announce-BBCiPlayerExtra-v1-0
Apologies for being a bit blunt, but the problem with most threads is
they get so big they are all but useless for slow and ignorant users
such as myself.  I created this one, following castella's lead, so that
the only post one should need to read is the first one, which I tried to
keep up to date.  

I'd like to keep this thread that way if I can, for a while, at least
until the iPlayerExtra/Flash feature dies altogether and/or DASH becomes
stable.  Is that possible?



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Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
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Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> One can't stop people talking about stuff, but hopefully try to be clear
> about what versions are being referred to.
The aim is get people talking about the same thing in the right place -
otherwise we have this tangled mess. 

BBCiPlayer Extra is separate from BBCiPlayer and the test-repo should
not be given to user who are not willing or do not want to use the test
BBCiPlayer.
> I think I now understand that the instruction to use your newer repo is
> not appropriate here.  Is that correct?  If so, how does a user get the
> iPlayer Extra version appropriate to that iPlayer version?  The
> instructions on the 1st post refer to one of your old repos that does
> not seem to exist any more.  What should it say?
> 
The BBCiPlayerEXtra repo URL only died in mid Jan because of Googlecode
retirement.  A new repo BBCiPlayerExtra needs to be setup.

However the future of BBCiPlayerExtra is still in doubt because of
changes by BBC and removal of Flash so I believe this thread should not
really deal with BBCiPlayerExtra as there could be considerable turmoil
ahead and so all BBCiPlayerExtra issues should be directed to its own
thread
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?72709-Announce-BBCiPlayerExtra-v1-0



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread PasTim

bpa wrote: 
> 1. This thread should not discuss DASH or the test version of the
> BBCiPlayer plugin which is version 1.4.x
> 2. This thread is only relevant to Triode's version of BBCiPlayer plugin
> which is up to 1.3.x
One can't stop people talking about stuff, but hopefully try to be clear
about what versions are being referred to.

I think I now understand that the instruction to use your newer repo is
not appropriate here.  Is that correct?  If so, how does a user get the
iPlayer Extra version appropriate to that iPlayer version?  The
instructions on the 1st post refer to one of your old repos that does
not seem to exist any more.  What should it say?

I appreciate that this thread has somewhat lost its purpose due to the
various flavours of solution around (at least 3).  If I can get a
definitive set of information for this solution I'll try to update the
1st post to be more explicit about this solution.



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44.1->192kbps. 
LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to 405/2 amp & ESLs) &
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 15.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> I am now even more confused.
> 
> We discussed some time ago whether this thread  should cover DASH, and I
> thought we agreed that it should not due to the potentially unstable
> nature of that solution.  On occasions I and others have suggested here
> that users might want to try DASH, but this thread is not about that.
> 
> I don't know which versions of the iPlayer plugin is appropriate to the
> non-DASH solution.  So could you please help me and others using this
> non-DASH solution.

1. This thread should not discuss DASH or the test version of the
BBCiPlayer plugin which is version 1.4.x
2. This thread is only relevant to Triode's version of BBCiPlayer plugin
which is up to 1.3.x



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread PasTim

bpa wrote: 
> In relation to formbypc post - the thread has got mixed up with other
> threads.
> 
> In reply to a query by formbypc (Ronnie aka "Man in a Van") pointed user
> to a pinkfish thread about using the testversion of the BBCiPlayer.
> Formbypc had problems and becasue they didn't know about the testversion
> own thread and so has posted back on this thread.  formbypc should post
> issue about testversion on its
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104672-BBCiPlayer-with-DASH-support-test-version
> 
> I don't understand the comment about not knowning about a version of
> BBCiPlayer beyond 1.3 since you suggested another user to use use the
> test version of BBCiPlayer plugin in this post
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103435-BBCiPlayer-Plugins-an-alternative-quick-fix-guide&p=838175&viewfull=1#post838175
> 
> I haven't taken over the BBCiPlayer because that can't be done without
> Triode's consent.   In anticipation of BBC supporting DASH (and dropping
> support for HLS/HDS)  I have implemented a variation (aka fork) of the
> BBCiPlayer which includes DASH and to avoid version clashing started at
> version 1.4  This version is still in test as
> 1. Support for DASH in BBC is still in beta (i.e. URLs are only supplied
> to vendors or browser using iPlayer HTML5 beta)  and subject to change
> (which they still do ) and hence break at no notice. Also BBC probably
> may have contracted capacity with CDNs for small takeup of DASH during
> beta. That said, I think BBC haven't pushed back because they need/want
> users to test out the DASH streams and AFAICT only other ways user can
> use DASH is via Browsers using HTML5 beta. When Android apps use DASH -
> it can be considered live.
> 2. Plugin has problem with some Windows systems.
> 3. Plugin has problems with CastBridge in some configurations.
> 
> So all exchanges relevant to test version should not be in this thread.
I am now even more confused.

We discussed some time ago whether this thread  should cover DASH, and I
thought we agreed that it should not due to the potentially unstable
nature of that solution.  On occasions I and others have suggested here
that users might want to try DASH, but this thread is not about that.

I don't know which versions of the iPlayer plugin is appropriate to the
non-DASH solution.  So could you please help me and others using this
non-DASH solution.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> Sorry if I've lost track, but are you saying you have taken over control
> of the Triode plugin?  I was unaware that there was a version after 1.3.
> 
> Maybe I should withdraw (i.e. unpin from the head of the topic and stop
> attempting to update) this thread entirely, since I'm not using this
> version and no spare system on which to test it.

In relation to formbypc post - the thread has got mixed up with other
threads.

In reply to a query by formbypc (Ronnie aka "Man in a Van") pointed user
to a pinkfish thread about using the testversion of the BBCiPlayer.
Formbypc had problems and becasue they didn't know about the testversion
own thread and so has posted back on this thread.  formbypc should post
issue about testversion on its
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104672-BBCiPlayer-with-DASH-support-test-version

I don't understand the comment about not knowning about a version of
BBCiPlayer beyond 1.3 since you suggested another user to use use the
test version of BBCiPlayer plugin in this post
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103435-BBCiPlayer-Plugins-an-alternative-quick-fix-guide&p=838175&viewfull=1#post838175

I haven't taken over the BBCiPlayer because that can't be done without
Triode's consent.   In anticipation of BBC supporting DASH (and dropping
support for HLS/HDS)  I have implemented a variation (aka fork) of the
BBCiPlayer which includes DASH and to avoid version clashing started at
version 1.4  This version is still in test as
1. Support for DASH in BBC is still in beta (i.e. URLs are only supplied
to vendors or browser using iPlayer HTML5 beta)  and subject to change
(which they still do ) and hence break at no notice. Also BBC probably
may have contracted capacity with CDNs for small takeup of DASH during
beta.
2. Plugin has problem with some Windows systems.
3. Plugin has problems with CastBridge in some configurations.

So all exchanges relevant to test version should not be in this thread.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread Owen Smith

PasTim wrote: 
> Sorry if I've lost track, but are you saying you have taken over control
> of the Triode plugin?  I was unaware that there was a version after
> 1.3.
> 
> Maybe I should withdraw (i.e. unpin from the head of the topic and stop
> attempting to update) this thread entirely, since I'm not using this
> version and no spare system on which to test it.

I was wondering why things were getting so confused on this thread. Yes
there is an updated iPlayer plugin where bpa has taken on development
where Triode left off.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-11 Thread PasTim

bpa wrote: 
> There should be no need for the Triode repository URL - I don't have it
> in my LMS setup.
> 
> BBCiPlayerEXtra is a companion to BBCiPlayer plugin - it won't work
> without BBCiPlayer.  The repository URL I gave earlier provides the
> feeds for the 1.4.7 BBCiPlayer and V 1.9.3 of BBCiPlayerExtra plugins.
> The Triode repository will only give the 1.3.? alpha minus patches etc.
Sorry if I've lost track, but are you saying you have taken over control
of the Triode plugin?  I was unaware that there was a version after
1.3.

Maybe I should withdraw (i.e. unpin from the head of the topic and stop
attempting to update) this thread entirely, since I'm not using this
version and no spare system on which to test it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

Man in a van wrote: 
> It's probably just me but I half expect "Am I right Sir!?" and Richard
> Hannay to start posting:p. 
The memory man is killed - are you planning something ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> I think you still need the triode one.  As far as I can tell it still
> seems to work and should give you iplayer as well.
> 
> If bpa can confirm that I should change the reference to his iplayer
> extra plugin on page 1 I'll do so.

There should be no need for the Triode repository URL - I don't have it
in my LMS setup.

BBCiPlayerEXtra is a companion to BBCiPlayer plugin - it won't work
without BBCiPlayer.  The repository URL I gave earlier provides the
feeds for the 1.4.7 BBCiPlayer and V 1.9.3 of BBCiPlayerExtra plugins.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread PasTim

formbypc wrote: 
> OK, corrected that, and I now have one bpa plugin - iPlayer Extra. Is
> that all I need? Because the instruction at the head of the thread says
> I should have two.
I think you still need the triode one.  As far as I can tell it still
seems to work and should give you iplayer as well.

If bpa can confirm that I should change the reference to his iplayer
extra plugin on page 1 I'll do so.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread formbypc

bpa wrote: 
> Plugin from my repository will show up under my name not Triode.
> 
> I think you are using a bad URL - use the following
> 
> *http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/repo-short.xml*

OK, corrected that, and I now have one bpa plugin - iPlayer Extra. Is
that all I need? Because the instruction at the head of the thread says
I should have two.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread Man in a van

bpa wrote: 
> Directory should be deleted when you disable a plugin but I think only
> after a restart.
> 
> BTW on pinkfish forum - issue about JPG 128k - I'be seen it before but
> can't remember the underlying cause and I think it could be either an
> old build of LMS or user is still set on HLS and there is some sort of
> conflict with playHLS or other old hacks.  It is not due to Cache.
> 
> edit:
> 
> The 128k JGPG issues was known as long ago as 2014 in HLS see
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)&p=787159&viewfull=1#post787159




Thanks bpa.

It's probably just me but I half expect "Am I right Sir!?" and Richard
Hannay to start posting:p. 


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread PasTim

If the repos specified on page 1 of this thread need updating, please
let me know and I'll update them there.  I'm using the test DASH plugins
so can't test this myself any more.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

formbypc wrote: 
> With both BPA and Triode repositories added, and the 'old' BBC iPlayer
> directory deleted from the cache specified a few posts up, I still don't
> get any plugins showing up under the Triode heading. 
> 
> 19909

I think you are using a bad URL - use the following

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/repo-short.xml



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread castalla

formbypc wrote: 
> With both BPA and Triode repositories added, and the 'old' BBC iPlayer
> directory deleted from the cache specified a few posts up, I still don't
> get any plugins showing up under the Triode heading. 
> 
> 19909
I think the bbc plugin shows up in 3rd Party plugins



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread formbypc

With both BPA and Triode repositories added, and the 'old' BBC iPlayer
directory deleted from the cache specified a few posts up, I still don't
get any plugins showing up under the Triode heading. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

Man in a van wrote: 
> That had not occurred to me:(:o
> 
> Maybe this accounts for some folk having a problem changing to  Dash?
> 
> Ronnie.

Directory should be deleted when you disable a plugin but I think only
after a restart.

BTW on pink fuish forum - issue abotu JPG 128k - I'be seen it before but
can't remember the underlying cause and I think it could be either an
old build of LMS or user is still set on HLS and there is some sort of
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread Man in a van

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Why would people ask SqueezeBox questions over there? The horses mouth
> is this site surely?

Why not?

Anyway, which part of the horse are you?:confused::p;):D

Ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread Owen Smith

formbypc wrote: 
> http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=184163&page=2

Why would people ask SqueezeBox questions over there? The horses mouth
is this site surely?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread Man in a van

bpa wrote: 
> To be sure after it is disabled, you can delete the BBCiPlayer directory
> in the Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins direcotry (to get full path look
> at WebGUI Settings/Information )


That had not occurred to me:(:o

Maybe this accounts for some folk having a problem changing to  Dash?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread formbypc

PasTim wrote: 
> Excuse my ignorance, but what's the 'fishie forum'?

http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=184163&page=2



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread bpa

formbypc wrote: 
>  or is some other removal required?


To be sure after it is disabled, you can delete the BBCiPlayer directory
in the Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins direcotry (to get full path look
at WebGUI Settings/Information )



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread PasTim

Man in a van wrote: 
> Reply on the fishie forum
Excuse my ignorance, but what's the 'fishie forum'?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread Man in a van

formbypc wrote: 
> From the first post
> 
> "Please note that with the patches, unless you know exactly what and how
> to replace the files it may be better to start with a fresh BBCiPlayer
> system by removing the BBCiPlayer plugin on the Settings, Plugins page
> on the LMS GUI."
> 
> How? I have an iPlayer in my Inactive Plugins list, but the only option
> appears to be the tickbox to enable it. Is it sufficient to merely leave
> it in the inactive list, or is some other removal required?

Reply on the fishie forum



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-02-10 Thread formbypc

>From the first post

"Please note that with the patches, unless you know exactly what and how
to replace the files it may be better to start with a fresh BBCiPlayer
system by removing the BBCiPlayer plugin on the Settings, Plugins page
on the LMS GUI."

How? I have an iPlayer in my Inactive Plugins list, but the only option
appears to be the tickbox to enable it. Is it sufficient to merely leave
it in the inactive list, or is some other removal required?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-23 Thread ftlight

danco wrote: 
> My setting is at the maximum available (I think it is 30), which usually
> works.
I just checked and the max setting is 60 seconds (latest 7.9 nightly,
Windows 7)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-23 Thread bpa

danco wrote: 
> My setting is at the maximum available (I think it is 30), which usually
> works.
> 
> I have wondered if it is possible to go into the code and change it to a
> larger figure, such as 60. I would rather wait for a minute than have to
> restart the whole program, which is what happens at times currently.
> 
> I know that some bits of code are easy to change, for instance I have
> changed the BBC iPlayer Extras default.opml to put the National Radio
> Schedules at the top, but of course other items of code won't allow
> simple changes.

It is one of the areas I have been playing around. The LMS AsyncHTTP
routine used to "get" an URL has two parameters - expires and timeout.
Timeout is the timeout for a HTTP get - I'm not too sure of expoires but
I think it is the life of a DNS entry.   If not set then defaults are
used.   Changing the timelimits per HTTP GET is quite easy and is done
in the HLS.pm file.  The following are the two routines I have changed.
Note they have added instrumentation to monitor fetch times - you only
need to add the cache, timeout and expires to your HLS.pm to play
around.

The fetching of the "pls" which tell LMS which 6 secs segments to fetch

Code:


  sub _fetchPL {
my $self = shift;
my $url  = shift;
my $start= shift || 0;
  
$log->debug("fetch playlist: $url start: $start");
  
${*$self}{'_pl_refetch'} = undef;   
  
Slim::Networking::SimpleAsyncHTTP->new(
\&_parsePL, 
sub { 
my $http = shift;
my $fetchtime = int((Time::HiRes::time() - 
$http->params('fetchtime'))*1000);   
$log->warn("Error: fetch time $fetchtime fetching  
$url");
$self->close; 
}, 
  [color=red]   { obj => $self, url => $url, start => $start, cache => 
0, expires =>HLS_TTL_EXPIRES, timeout=>HLS_PLS_TIMEOUT , fetchtime => 
Time::HiRes::time() }[/color=red]
)->get($url);
  }
  




Code:


  ub _fetchChunk {
my $self  = shift;
my $chunk = shift;
  
if (my $url = $chunk->{'url'}) {
$log->debug("fetching [$chunk->{chunknum}]: $url");
$chunk->{'fetching'} = 1;
$chunk->{'requesttime'} = Time::HiRes::time();  
Slim::Networking::SimpleAsyncHTTP->new(
sub {
$log->is_debug && $log->debug("got 
[$chunk->{chunknum}] size " . length($_[0]->content));
my $fetchtime = int((Time::HiRes::time() - 
$chunk->{'requesttime'}) *1000);
$log->error("HLS chunk fetch time $fetchtime 
ms") if ($fetchtime > 300) ;   
delete $chunk->{'fetching'}; 
delete $chunk->{'requesttime'};
$chunk->{'chunkref'} = $_[0]->contentRef;
},
sub { 
my $fetchtime = int((Time::HiRes::time() - 
$chunk->{'requesttime'}) *1000);
$log->warn("error fetching [$chunk->{chunknum}] 
fetch time $fetchtime  $url");
delete $chunk->{'fetching'};
delete $chunk->{'requesttime'};

}, 
{ cache =>1, expires =>HLS_TTL_EXPIRES, 
timeout=>HLS_SEGMENT_TIMEOUT }
)->get($url);
}
  }
  [/code[



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-23 Thread danco

bpa wrote: 
> Long response times by BBC servers show up as "Couldn't resolve IP
> address " errors - the majority of these are not DNS errors but long
> reponse time from the CDN servers but confusingly reported by LMS as a
> "couldn't resolve IP" .  The timeouts used by the HLS code is the
> default value set by LMS Setting "Radio Station Timeout." (WebUI
> Settings/Advanced/Network/Radio Station Timeout) which is by default set
> to 3  - change this setting to at least 15 and report back if it helps.


My setting is at the maximum available (I think it is 30), which usually
works.

I have wondered if it is possible to go into the code and change it to a
larger figure, such as 60. I would rather wait for a minute than have to
restart the whole program, which is what happens at times currently.

I know that some bits of code are easy to change, for instance I have
changed the BBC iPlayer Extras default.opml to put the National Radio
Schedules at the top, but of course other items of code won't allow
simple changes.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-22 Thread Giza2020

Owen Smith wrote: 
> One of my friends says the Virgin DNS servers have been awful recently,
> very slow response times.

Thanks for this - I'm sure it'll have been mentioned before but I hadnt
seen it - so thanks anyway, I'll be changing to Google or OpenDNS this
evening to see if it helps stability across my network (funnily enough
LMS and BBC in particular are ok at the moment but slow load times etc
are rife)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-22 Thread bpa

Long response times by BBC servers show up as "Couldn't resolve IP
address " errors - the majority of these are not DNS errors but long
reponse time from the CDN servers but confusingly reported by LMS as a
"couldn't resolve IP" .  The timeouts used by the HLS code is the
default value set by LMS Setting "Radio Station Timeout." (WebUI
Settings/Advanced/Network/Radio Station Timeout) which is by default set
to 3  - change this setting to at least 15 and report back if it helps.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-22 Thread PasTim

sto wrote: 
> Dropping streams has been driving me up the wall for months. I'm on
> Virgin @55mbps. Funnily enough it's seems worse in the morning too. I
> thought it was something to do with my server being busy just after
> start up but it makes no difference if it's just booted or not.
> 
> Can anyone give me a few pointers on how to debug this ?
> 
> In meantime I'll try the Google dns addresses.
I'm on linux (xubuntu) and have a local DNS cache set up with dnsmasq. 
I use Google DNS at 8.8.8.8.  My ISP is TalkTalk, getting around 30Mbps.
I haven't had issues with drop outs on HLS or DASH for quite a while
now. Maybe I'm just lucky.  

So, try a few DNS servers and see if anything changes.  If it does, then
investigate ways to improve DNS response times, using different servers
or even a local cache of some form.  I'm afraid I'm very much an amateur
meddler in such matters.

Are you using HLS (as per this thread's instructions) or the newer DASH
version?

If changing DNS doesn't help, something else must be causing problems. 
Are you sure your local network is good?  Is it wired or wireless? What
platform are you on?  There should be logs available that you could turn
on and post on the iPlayer thread - hopefully someone there will be able
to see more about what's going on.



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LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to 405/2 amp & ESLs) &
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 15.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver.  
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-22 Thread Owen Smith

sto wrote: 
> Dropping streams has been driving me up the wall for months. I'm on
> Virgin @55mbps. Funnily enough it's seems worse in the morning too. I
> thought it was something to do with my server being busy just after
> start up but it makes no difference if it's just booted or not.
> 
> Can anyone give me a few pointers on how to debug this ?
> 
> In meantime I'll try the Google dns addresses.

One of my friends says the Virgin DNS servers have been awful recently,
very slow response times.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-22 Thread Andy_D

sto wrote: 
> Dropping streams has been driving me up the wall for months. I'm on
> Virgin @55mbps. Funnily enough it's seems worse in the morning too. I
> thought it was something to do with my server being busy just after
> start up but it makes no difference if it's just booted or not.
> 
> Can anyone give me a few pointers on how to debug this ?
> 
> In meantime I'll try the Google dns addresses.

Only advice I can offer is what is already in this thread. Check network
connectivity and if you can test with ethernet rather than wireless or
EoP adaptors and see if any improvement. Remove network as a possible
cause.  As you've already identified, google dns helped in my situation.


I can't offer any more but perhaps others can I'm new to these issues
and the fixes in these forums.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-13 Thread sto

robmac wrote: 
> Hi Andy_D
> 
> I have always suffered with some dropping with streaming from BBC
> iplayer radio. I am also with Plusnet. 
> 
> For me it does vary over time and is particularly bad on the hours and
> half hours early in the morning. 

Dropping streams has been driving me up the wall for months. I'm on
Virgin @55mbps. Funnily enough it's seems worse in the morning too. I
thought it was something to do with my server being busy just after
start up but it makes no difference if it's just booted or not.

Can anyone give me a few pointers on how to debug this ?

In meantime I'll try the Google dns addresses.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-13 Thread bpa

PasTim wrote: 
> The only reason I haven't updated this thread to specify the DASH
> version is that BBC's longer term plans are uncertain and so the related
> plugins are still regarded as 'test'.

The current issues why the test version is still considered test and not
production.
1. The BBC DASH streams are still beta and so underlying tech could
still be tweaked.
2. Live DASH streams can stop as often as once / hr.  This is due to
long response time from BBC (http get reponse can take up to 3 mins).
This could be a BBC implementation issue as DASH stream are still beta. 
I am also testing changes to plugin to minimise this effect.
3. There is an issue which stops live DASH streams playing - I can't
reproduce. It seems to affect Windows based systems possibly most likely
with "high end" servers (i.e. CPU with lots of cores i7).
4. There is a possible similar issue to 2 with Castbridge but with
"ordinary" servers. Not sure if 2 & 3 are related. 
5. Occasional playback issues with "Listen Again" is playback is started
very near end of program.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-13 Thread MrClive

Man in a van wrote: 
> Gizza a shout if you need help MrClive
> 
> Ronnie

Cheers Ronnie. I'll have a look at this tonight or tomorrow night.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-13 Thread Man in a van

MrClive wrote: 
> I'm getting the same when I'm trying to listen to any "catch up stuff"
> on the BBC IPlayer. I'll have a look through the thread.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

PasTim wrote: 
> If you are using the plugin versions defined by the first post in this
> thread, the best place to go to ask for answers to problems is
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only).
> You'll need to say what operating system and LMS versions you are
> using.
> 
> Many of us have now moved to a new version - see
> .http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104672-BBCiPlayer-with-DASH-support-test-version&p=836657&viewfull=1#post836657
> The only reason I haven't updated this thread to specify the DASH
> version is that BBC's longer term plans are uncertain and so the related
> plugins are still regarded as 'test'.



Gizza a shout if you need help MrClive

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2016-01-13 Thread PasTim

MrClive wrote: 
> I'm getting the same when I'm trying to listen to any "catch up stuff"
> on the BBC IPlayer. I'll have a look through the thread.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
If you are using the plugin versions defined by the first post in this
thread, the best place to go to ask for answers to problems is
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only).
You'll need to say what operating system and LMS versions you are
using.

Many of us have now moved to a new version - see
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...l=1#post836657 .  The only reason
I haven't updated this thread to specify the DASH version is that BBC's
longer term plans are uncertain and so the related plugins are still
regarded as 'test'.



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