Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Barbara Needham
A-NO-NE Music on 6/14/07 said

>T.L. Miller / 2007/06/14 / 06:12 PM wrote:
>
>>I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I
>>understand that Apple takes those messages seriously.
>
>
>They don't take a look unless the crashed app is theirs.

Not altogether true. They do check if something they did breaks a major
third party application. However, I also expect PM isn't one of those apps.
-- 
Barbara Needham




Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread T.L. Miller
On 6/14/07, at 9:36 AM, Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>Exact same thing happens to me.
>PM almost never crashed, I installed Safari 3.0 (and apparently the 
>new webkit) and it crashed 4 times in 1 day.

I also notice that my PM toolbar sometimes disappears now -- another
unusual behavior after installing Safari 3.0

Tom Miller
..
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark 
...







Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Bruce Barrett
Hi,

I'm sure by now that they're aware of the general issue
of webkit crashing otherwise functional programs. 

I agree that in general Apple is not going to care if
a third party app crashes. They don't have the source to 
debug the problem, and it's generally not their problem
anyway.

Not sure if they forward that info to third party 
developers or not. I can imagine it being an 
administrative nightmare with possible legal 
(privacy) issues.

Oh well... 

Bruce
-- 
Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com 

As A-NO-NE Music wrote...

>T.L. Miller / 2007/06/14 / 06:12 PM wrote:
>
>>I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I
>>understand that Apple takes those messages seriously.
>
>
>They don't take a look unless the crashed app is theirs.
>-- 
>- Hiro





Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread A-NO-NE Music
T.L. Miller / 2007/06/14 / 06:12 PM wrote:

>I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I
>understand that Apple takes those messages seriously.


They don't take a look unless the crashed app is theirs.


-- 

- Hiro




Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread T.L. Miller
On 6/14/07, at 9:36 AM, Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>Exact same thing happens to me.
>PM almost never crashed, I installed Safari 3.0 (and apparently the 
>new webkit) and it crashed 4 times in 1 day.
>
>Reverted to Safari 2.0 and I'm back to no more crashes.

I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I
understand that Apple takes those messages seriously.

>My conclusion: Safari 3.0 is not ready yet. 

I really do like how the Find function works in Safari 3.0 -- a real benefit. 


Tom Miller
..
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark 
...







powermail-discuss Digest #2648 - 06/14/07

2007-06-14 Thread PowerMail discussions
powermail-discuss Digest #2648 - Thursday, June 14, 2007

  PM Quits Now
  by "T.L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: PM Quits Now
  by "Wayne Brissette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: PM Quits Now
  by "Bruce Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: PM Quits Now
  by "Richard Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Subject: PM Quits Now
From: "T.L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:53:55 -0400

Away for a week, come back and PM 5.5.3 on my iMactel running 10.4.9 has
quit on me 4 or 5 times in a day -- highly unusual. The only change is
that I installed Safari 3.0. I have compacted the database and search
index, but it has quit since. It's a little difficult to believe that
the new Safari is responsible, but this is strange.





Tom Miller
..
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
...





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Subject: Re: PM Quits Now
From: "Wayne Brissette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:07:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

You should send your crash report into CTMDev. They can help you decide what is 
causing the problem.

Wayne

-Original Message-
>From: "T.L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jun 14, 2007 10:53 AM
>To: PowerMail 
>Subject: PM Quits Now
>
>Away for a week, come back and PM 5.5.3 on my iMactel running 10.4.9 has
>quit on me 4 or 5 times in a day -- highly unusual. The only change is
>that I installed Safari 3.0. I have compacted the database and search
>index, but it has quit since. It's a little difficult to believe that
>the new Safari is responsible, but this is strange.
>
>
>
>
>
>Tom Miller
>..
>"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
>we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
>...
>
>
>
>
>


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Subject: Re: PM Quits Now
From: "Bruce Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:36:27 -0700

Hi All,

Exact same thing happens to me.
PM almost never crashed, I installed Safari 3.0 (and apparently the
new webkit) and it crashed 4 times in 1 day.

Reverted to Safari 2.0 and I'm back to no more crashes.

My conclusion: Safari 3.0 is not ready yet.
I've seen there's a new windows version out, but not an OS X
version, yet. I have a co-worker who has complained of other
applications crashing as well.

MacBookPro, 2GB, Mac OS 10.4.9

Bruce
--
Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com

As T.L. Miller wrote...

>Away for a week, come back and PM 5.5.3 on my iMactel running 10.4.9 has
>quit on me 4 or 5 times in a day -- highly unusual. The only change is
>that I installed Safari 3.0. I have compacted the database and search
>index, but it has quit since. It's a little difficult to believe that
>the new Safari is responsible, but this is strange.
>
>
>
>
>
>Tom Miller
>..
>"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
>we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
>...
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: PM Quits Now
From: "Richard Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:31:48 -0500

Safari 3.0 replaces the OS X html rendering core.

The only incidents I've had is if I click and drag on a message to
select what I want to be quoted in the reply. This unexpectedly quits
PowerMail every time.

I uninstalled Safari 3.0 because there were a lot of the sites I visit
opening to blank pages.


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End of powermail-discuss Digest



Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Richard Davis
Safari 3.0 replaces the OS X html rendering core.

The only incidents I've had is if I click and drag on a message to
select what I want to be quoted in the reply. This unexpectedly quits
PowerMail every time.

I uninstalled Safari 3.0 because there were a lot of the sites I visit
opening to blank pages.




Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Bruce Barrett
Hi All,

Exact same thing happens to me.
PM almost never crashed, I installed Safari 3.0 (and apparently the 
new webkit) and it crashed 4 times in 1 day.

Reverted to Safari 2.0 and I'm back to no more crashes.

My conclusion: Safari 3.0 is not ready yet. 
I've seen there's a new windows version out, but not an OS X 
version, yet. I have a co-worker who has complained of other
applications crashing as well.

MacBookPro, 2GB, Mac OS 10.4.9

Bruce
-- 
Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com 

As T.L. Miller wrote...

>Away for a week, come back and PM 5.5.3 on my iMactel running 10.4.9 has
>quit on me 4 or 5 times in a day -- highly unusual. The only change is
>that I installed Safari 3.0. I have compacted the database and search
>index, but it has quit since. It's a little difficult to believe that
>the new Safari is responsible, but this is strange.
>
>
>
>
>
>Tom Miller
>..
>"The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
>we run from side to side." R.O.Clark 
>...
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Wayne Brissette
You should send your crash report into CTMDev. They can help you decide what is 
causing the problem.

Wayne

-Original Message-
>From: "T.L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jun 14, 2007 10:53 AM
>To: PowerMail 
>Subject: PM Quits Now
>
>Away for a week, come back and PM 5.5.3 on my iMactel running 10.4.9 has
>quit on me 4 or 5 times in a day -- highly unusual. The only change is
>that I installed Safari 3.0. I have compacted the database and search
>index, but it has quit since. It's a little difficult to believe that
>the new Safari is responsible, but this is strange.
>
>
>
>
>
>Tom Miller
>..
>"The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
>we run from side to side." R.O.Clark 
>...
>
>
>
>
>




PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread T.L. Miller
Away for a week, come back and PM 5.5.3 on my iMactel running 10.4.9 has
quit on me 4 or 5 times in a day -- highly unusual. The only change is
that I installed Safari 3.0. I have compacted the database and search
index, but it has quit since. It's a little difficult to believe that
the new Safari is responsible, but this is strange.





Tom Miller
..
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark 
...