powermail-discuss Digest #2735 - 11/15/07

[PowerMail discussions]

powermail-discuss Digest #2735 - Thursday, November 15, 2007

  (copy  of a) request regarding deletion of downloaded IMAP message attach
  by "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "John Maylone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "T.L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "John Maylone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "T.L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "Richard Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "John Maylone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
  by "Sean McBride" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
  by "T.L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
  by "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
  by "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese
  by "Steve Tarpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese
  by "Tim Lapin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese
  by "Tim Lapin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese
  by "Steve Tarpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese
  by "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Subject: (copy  of a) request regarding deletion of downloaded IMAP message 
attachments
From: "MB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:57:28 +0100

A copy of what was sent to CTM support:

"request regarding deletion of downloaded IMAP message attachments:

I think the dialog  "Erase (EXPUNGE) Deleted Messages..." that is shown
prior to erasing messages at the IMAP server in use, should in addition
also inform that already downloaded messages also will be deleted. An
option to keep those attachments would be most helpful. "

Mikael

Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD




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Subject: Did I make a huge mistake here?
From: "John Maylone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:30:07 -0800


I just upgraded to Leopard.  I cloned my hard drive, did a clean
install, then copied the files back into Leopard from the clone.

When I went to open PowerMail it told me that it needed to upgrade
the database to be compatible with PM 5.5, that I should make a
backup copy of the mail file and then proceed.   Instead of seeing
warning flares and hearing warning sirens, I went ahead and did this.
Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago.

I have this sinking feelingwhat have I done to myself here?

Any help for the embarrassed old guy will be greatly appreciated.

John 



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Subject: Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
From: "Marlyse Comte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:44:04 -0600

well, as a first -  as you cloned your hard drive you obviously still
have that to fall back onto.
second - I wonder why you did not migrate?
third -  how about deleting all PM from your Leopard drive (i.e. trash
prefs and the database created etc.) and try again - by copying the
former PM database over from your clone, feel free to backup this time
around when it asks you to.
fourth - a possibility : is it pointing at the correct database to open?

---marlyse


 former message(s) quotes: -


>
>I just upgraded to Leopard.  I cloned my hard drive, did a clean
>install, then copied the files back into Leopard from the clone.
>
>When I went to open PowerMail it told me that it needed to upgrade
>the database to be compatible with PM 5.5, that I should make a
>backup copy of the mail file and then proceed.   Instead of seeing
>warning flares and hearing warning sirens, I went ahead and did this.
>Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
>was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago.
>
>I have this sinking feelingwhat have I done to myself here?
>
>Any help for the embarrassed old guy will be greatly appreciated.
>
>John
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:12:05 +0100

John Maylone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database
> was dated Oct

Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)

[MB]

Michael J. Hußmann told:

>yet to see such an
>email address", but it wasn't like there was someone out there with an
>email address containing accented or umlauted characters

For some reason I feel compelled to point out that I obviously knew this
was the reason I hadn't seen any. As now have been established, this
side-issue has absolutely nothing to do with the accented character
problem in the native PowerMail addressbook that now have both have been
verified and for which two workarounds have been found as well. Let's
leave it like that.

Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese

[A-NO-NE Music]

Steve Tarpin / 07.11.15 / 11:24 AM wrote:

>Thanks for the quick reply Tim. Actually, I did try translating with a
>translation widget (both traditional chinese and simplified han) and the
>string was unrecognized, even in smaller snippets.

I don't know anything about Chinese, but what you posted looked like
corrupted EUC encoding strings.

-- 

- Hiro

Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
 

Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese

[Tim Lapin]

On   Thursday, November 15, 2007,   Steve Tarpin   sent forth:

>Something very odd happened... somehow my auto-replies via filtering
>were suddenly being sent in some cryptic conglomeration of Chinese
>characters. When I opened the filter-setup and opened the 
>set reply" option, indeed my previous reply was not there anymore and
>instead there was... well, look for yourself.
>
>?栀愀渀欀猀　昀漀爀　?爀椀琀椀渀最　甀猀?　?栀椀猀　愀甀琀漀?爀攀瀀氀?　
>椀猀　樀甀猀琀　琀漀　愀挀欀渀漀?氀攀搀最攀　?攀　最漀琀　?漀甀爀　洀愀椀
>氀?　猀漀　瀀氀攀愀猀攀　戀攀　瀀愀琀椀攀渀琀　?椀琀栀　愀　爀攀瀀氀??　
>愀猀　?攀　最攀琀　洀愀渀?　攀洀愀椀氀猀?　?　栀漀瀀攀　?攀　挀愀渀　愀渀
>猀?攀爀　愀渀?　焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀　?漀甀　洀椀最栀琀　栀愀瘀攀攀猀琀　
>爀攀最愀爀搀猀?匀琀攀瘀攀
>
>Anyone else ever had anything like this happen?
>
>http://www.keylime.com
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>PM 5.5b2
>--
>G5 PPC 4x2.5 GHz
>7G ram
>--
>Intel PB 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
>2G ram
>--
>OS 10.4.11
>


Have you tried running that through a translator to see if it
corresponds to your auto-reply text?  If so, I would suggest that
somehow the character set got reset somewhere along the line.

--
Tim Lapin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Intel iMacOS 10.4.10PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD

Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese

[Steve Tarpin]

Something very odd happened... somehow my auto-replies via filtering
were suddenly being sent in some cryptic conglomeration of Chinese
characters. When I opened the filter-setup and opened the 
set reply" option, indeed my previous reply was not there anymore and
instead there was... well, look for yourself.

?栀愀渀欀猀　昀漀爀　?爀椀琀椀渀最　甀猀?　?栀椀猀　愀甀琀漀?爀攀瀀氀?　
椀猀　樀甀猀琀　琀漀　愀挀欀渀漀?氀攀搀最攀　?攀　最漀琀　?漀甀爀　洀愀椀
氀?　猀漀　瀀氀攀愀猀攀　戀攀　瀀愀琀椀攀渀琀　?椀琀栀　愀　爀攀瀀氀??　
愀猀　?攀　最攀琀　洀愀渀?　攀洀愀椀氀猀?　?　栀漀瀀攀　?攀　挀愀渀　愀渀
猀?攀爀　愀渀?　焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀　?漀甀　洀椀最栀琀　栀愀瘀攀攀猀琀　
爀攀最愀爀搀猀?匀琀攀瘀攀

Anyone else ever had anything like this happen?

http://www.keylime.com
-- 
PM 5.5b2
--
G5 PPC 4x2.5 GHz
7G ram
--
Intel PB 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
2G ram
--
OS 10.4.11

Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese

[Steve Tarpin]

>Have you tried running that through a translator to see if it
>corresponds to your auto-reply text?  If so, I would suggest that
>somehow the character set got reset somewhere along the line.

Thanks for the quick reply Tim. Actually, I did try translating with a
translation widget (both traditional chinese and simplified han) and the
string was unrecognized, even in smaller snippets. There is a tendency
on my part to think of whatever happened as being somewhat "invasive",
but since the characters are not really saying anything recognizable I'm
putting those thoughts aside.

Regards...

Steve

http://www.keylime.com
-- 
PM 5.5b2
--
G5 PPC 4x2.5 GHz
7G ram
--
Intel PB 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo
2G ram
--
OS 10.4.11

Re: Very Odd, Auto Replies Went Chinese

[Tim Lapin]

On   Thursday, November 15, 2007,   Steve Tarpin   sent forth:

>Something very odd happened... somehow my auto-replies via filtering
>were suddenly being sent in some cryptic conglomeration of Chinese
>characters. When I opened the filter-setup and opened the 
>set reply" option, indeed my previous reply was not there anymore and
>instead there was... well, look for yourself.
>
>?栀愀渀欀猀　昀漀爀　?爀椀琀椀渀最　甀猀?　?栀椀猀　愀甀琀漀?爀攀瀀氀?　
>椀猀　樀甀猀琀　琀漀　愀挀欀渀漀?氀攀搀最攀　?攀　最漀琀　?漀甀爀　洀愀椀
>氀?　猀漀　瀀氀攀愀猀攀　戀攀　瀀愀琀椀攀渀琀　?椀琀栀　愀　爀攀瀀氀??　
>愀猀　?攀　最攀琀　洀愀渀?　攀洀愀椀氀猀?　?　栀漀瀀攀　?攀　挀愀渀　愀渀
>猀?攀爀　愀渀?　焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀　?漀甀　洀椀最栀琀　栀愀瘀攀攀猀琀　
>爀攀最愀爀搀猀?匀琀攀瘀攀
>
>Anyone else ever had anything like this happen?
>


Addenudum.

I noticed that you are running 10.4.11, while I am still at 10.4.10. 
Perhaps that has something to do with it?  I ask because your O/S
version got me curious and I did a manual software update check and
voila, 10.4.11 is now out

 Will the upgrade cause the same problem or not is the question.

--
Tim Lapin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Intel iMacOS 10.4.10PowerMail 5.5.3 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD

Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)

[Michael J . Hußmann]

Sean McBride ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

>>> When using a name containing an apostrophe in the name part ( I have yet
>>> to see such an email address)
>>
>> And you will never see one, because accented letters (and all other
>> characters outside the ASCII character set, plus some ASCII characters)
>> are not allowed in mail addresses.
>
> See also:
> 

Just to clear that up: with "never", I didn't intend to mean "never
until the heat-death of the universe", just "never, given current
internet standards". MB had mentioned that he had "yet to see such an
email address", but it wasn't like there was someone out there with an
email address containing accented or umlauted characters, and once this
person would write MB, he would eventually see such an email address. He
hasn't seen such an email address because there aren't any.

Obviously, current restrictions can be lifted and characters outside the
ASCII range will some day be allowed in email addresses. When that
happens, PowerMail should be updated to conform to the new standard.
Until then, it should conform to (and even enforce) the current standard.

(Now, personally, I am not a big fan of international email addresses,
even when perhaps I should, given that my name contains a character
outside the ASCII range. But that's a different issue.)

- Michael


Michael J. Hußmann

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de

Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?

[Richard Davis]

Your most recent database should be in your USER folder NOT the
Applications folder.

Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?

[T.L. Miller]

On 11/14/07, at 9:38 PM, Richard Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>Your most recent database should be in your USER folder NOT the
>Applications folder.

My most recent DB is in my Applications folder. I do have some PM files,
including a Message DB, in my User folder, but they are 2 1/2 years ago
-- probably for 5.2.


Tom Miller
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