Re: PM Quits Now

2007-07-20 Thread Bruce Barrett
Hi,

You can uninstall Safari 3.0 and you get the 2.x web kit back.
However, I found the 3.02 Safari is working just fine.
Uninstall 3.0 then download and reinstall 3.02.

If voting is allowed I vote that it's an Apple bug. :-)

Bruce

| PM 5.5.3 English | Mac OS 10.5.9 | MacBook Pro | 2GB RAM | 100GB HD |
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Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com

As Mikael Byström wrote...

PowerMail Engineering suggested:

If you want to keep Safari 3.0, you can disable the HTML reader in
PowerMail's preferences.

Shouldn't it be feasible to hack-reinstall webkit under 10.4.10? What do
you guys think?

Mikael

Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD








Re: PM Quits Now

2007-07-20 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Am/On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:04:34 -0700 schrieb/wrote Bruce Barrett:
You can uninstall Safari 3.0 and you get the 2.x web kit back.
However, I found the 3.02 Safari is working just fine. 
Uninstall 3.0 then download and reinstall 3.02.

well I just updated over the beta 3.0 and hings just worked fine since then.


If voting is allowed I vote that it's an Apple bug. :-)

I guess it was ... it seams to be fixed now :-)


Thanks and all the best

Matthias




Re: PM Quits Now

2007-07-19 Thread Mikael Byström
PowerMail Engineering suggested:

If you want to keep Safari 3.0, you can disable the HTML reader in
PowerMail's preferences.

Shouldn't it be feasible to hack-reinstall webkit under 10.4.10? What do
you guys think?

Mikael

Tech facts:
PM 5.5.3 Swedish | OS X 10.4.5 | Powerbook G4/550Mhz | 1GB RAM | 80GB HD




Re: PM Quits Now - not

2007-06-23 Thread T.L. Miller
So far, the newest version of Safari (3.02) seems to be able to co-exist
nicely with PM. Maybe sending several of those PM crash reports to Apple
got their attention. 


Tom Miller
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The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
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Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-20 Thread T.L. Miller
Bruce, thanks. Even after disabling the HTML reader and switching back
to Safari 2.04, PM would suddenly quit on me. Using the Safari 3.0
uninstall function returned things to normal for PM.

Tom Miller


On 6/18/07, at 9:02 AM, Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

running the 3.0 uninstaller will restore 2.x as well. If you deleted te
3.0 dmg just download again.

-- 
Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com 

As T.L. Miller wrote...

On 6/15/07, at 11:02 AM, PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

If you want to keep Safari 3.0, you can disable the HTML reader in
PowerMail's preferences.

PM quit on me once after disabling the HTML reader, so I decided to
start using safari 2.0 again. I found 2.01 at Apple's website, but it
wouldn't install on 10.4.9.  Luckily I hadn't put 3.0 on my wife's Mac,
so I got 2.04 from it.


Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...














Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-18 Thread T.L. Miller
On 6/15/07, at 11:02 AM, PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

If you want to keep Safari 3.0, you can disable the HTML reader in
PowerMail's preferences.

PM quit on me once after disabling the HTML reader, so I decided to
start using safari 2.0 again. I found 2.01 at Apple's website, but it
wouldn't install on 10.4.9.  Luckily I hadn't put 3.0 on my wife's Mac,
so I got 2.04 from it.


Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...







Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-18 Thread Bruce Barrett
running the 3.0 uninstaller will restore 2.x as well. If you deleted te
3.0 dmg just download again.

-- 
Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com 

As T.L. Miller wrote...

On 6/15/07, at 11:02 AM, PowerMail Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

If you want to keep Safari 3.0, you can disable the HTML reader in
PowerMail's preferences.

PM quit on me once after disabling the HTML reader, so I decided to
start using safari 2.0 again. I found 2.01 at Apple's website, but it
wouldn't install on 10.4.9.  Luckily I hadn't put 3.0 on my wife's Mac,
so I got 2.04 from it.


Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...











PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread T.L. Miller
Away for a week, come back and PM 5.5.3 on my iMactel running 10.4.9 has
quit on me 4 or 5 times in a day -- highly unusual. The only change is
that I installed Safari 3.0. I have compacted the database and search
index, but it has quit since. It's a little difficult to believe that
the new Safari is responsible, but this is strange.





Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...







Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Wayne Brissette
You should send your crash report into CTMDev. They can help you decide what is 
causing the problem.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: T.L. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jun 14, 2007 10:53 AM
To: PowerMail powermail-discuss@ctmdev.com
Subject: PM Quits Now

Away for a week, come back and PM 5.5.3 on my iMactel running 10.4.9 has
quit on me 4 or 5 times in a day -- highly unusual. The only change is
that I installed Safari 3.0. I have compacted the database and search
index, but it has quit since. It's a little difficult to believe that
the new Safari is responsible, but this is strange.





Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...









Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Richard Davis
Safari 3.0 replaces the OS X html rendering core.

The only incidents I've had is if I click and drag on a message to
select what I want to be quoted in the reply. This unexpectedly quits
PowerMail every time.

I uninstalled Safari 3.0 because there were a lot of the sites I visit
opening to blank pages.




Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread T.L. Miller
On 6/14/07, at 9:36 AM, Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Exact same thing happens to me.
PM almost never crashed, I installed Safari 3.0 (and apparently the 
new webkit) and it crashed 4 times in 1 day.

Reverted to Safari 2.0 and I'm back to no more crashes.

I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I
understand that Apple takes those messages seriously.

My conclusion: Safari 3.0 is not ready yet. 

I really do like how the Find function works in Safari 3.0 -- a real benefit. 


Tom Miller
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The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...







Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread A-NO-NE Music
T.L. Miller / 2007/06/14 / 06:12 PM wrote:

I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I
understand that Apple takes those messages seriously.


They don't take a look unless the crashed app is theirs.


-- 

- Hiro




Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Bruce Barrett
Hi,

I'm sure by now that they're aware of the general issue
of webkit crashing otherwise functional programs. 

I agree that in general Apple is not going to care if
a third party app crashes. They don't have the source to 
debug the problem, and it's generally not their problem
anyway.

Not sure if they forward that info to third party 
developers or not. I can imagine it being an 
administrative nightmare with possible legal 
(privacy) issues.

Oh well... 

Bruce
-- 
Bruce BarrettSee my website at: http://www.brucebarrett.com 

As A-NO-NE Music wrote...

T.L. Miller / 2007/06/14 / 06:12 PM wrote:

I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I
understand that Apple takes those messages seriously.


They don't take a look unless the crashed app is theirs.
-- 
- Hiro





Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread T.L. Miller
On 6/14/07, at 9:36 AM, Bruce Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Exact same thing happens to me.
PM almost never crashed, I installed Safari 3.0 (and apparently the 
new webkit) and it crashed 4 times in 1 day.

I also notice that my PM toolbar sometimes disappears now -- another
unusual behavior after installing Safari 3.0

Tom Miller
..
The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side. R.O.Clark 
...







Re: PM Quits Now

2007-06-14 Thread Barbara Needham
A-NO-NE Music on 6/14/07 said

T.L. Miller / 2007/06/14 / 06:12 PM wrote:

I sent that message to Apple several times went PM crashed and I
understand that Apple takes those messages seriously.


They don't take a look unless the crashed app is theirs.

Not altogether true. They do check if something they did breaks a major
third party application. However, I also expect PM isn't one of those apps.
-- 
Barbara Needham