Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Kurt at VR-FX]

So - how long before it wore off - and you were back in the land of 
Chronic pain?


I have had Chronic back pain for years now - so, for me - my Hot Tub is 
a bit of a Godsend - as it does help. Of course, as a Bachelor again - a 
hot tub has other great perks!


:-)

-K-


On 5/22/2017 6:44 PM, M Jarvis wrote:

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Fred Taylor  wrote:


I feel for you Ed.  My knee and my back certainly do.  Guess I'll wreck my
kidneys/liver with all the naproxen and acetaminophen I take.

Fred



Oh how I know THAT story...

A number of years ago I was prescribed Indocin and wow what a Godsend that
stuff was... I was virtually pain free after taking it for a few days and
could actually touch the ground once again without being in extreme pain...
Slept great, woke pain free - life was GOOD after 25 years of chronic
pain

Went back to the doc extolling the virtues of this miracle cure and asked
for a lifetime supply and he said oh no, that was just a one time thing -
you don't get any more... that sh!t will destroy your liver in no time





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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[M Jarvis]

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Fred Taylor  wrote:

> I feel for you Ed.  My knee and my back certainly do.  Guess I'll wreck my
> kidneys/liver with all the naproxen and acetaminophen I take.
>
> Fred
>
>
Oh how I know THAT story...

A number of years ago I was prescribed Indocin and wow what a Godsend that
stuff was... I was virtually pain free after taking it for a few days and
could actually touch the ground once again without being in extreme pain...
Slept great, woke pain free - life was GOOD after 25 years of chronic
pain

Went back to the doc extolling the virtues of this miracle cure and asked
for a lifetime supply and he said oh no, that was just a one time thing -
you don't get any more... that sh!t will destroy your liver in no time


-- 
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Eugene, Oregon USA


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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Michael Madigan]

I started taking fish oil last year after I compiled a list  of  "Supplements I 
should take"  after doing a google search of "Supplements everyone should 
take".    To my amazement, all my joints felt a lot better.   I did further 
research and found fish oil helps with inflamation and making joints less 
painful.   My knees hurt 75% less than they used to, and I wake up every day 
with no pain.   I used to wake up with shoulder and back pain.  
I take there recommended dose on the bottle, but I am thinking of increasing 
it.  
Give it a try, you should notice a difference in less than a month.

  From: Edward Leafe <e...@leafe.com>
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 Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:52 AM
 Subject: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity
   
Sorry to say, but it ain’t happening this year. Or next. If you’re so inclined 
and financially able, please continue to donate to good causes, but I won’t be 
raising money with my rides any more. If you’re interested in the reason why:

https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/ <https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/>


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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Kurt at VR-FX]

Hey Ken - maybe that's TMI on the Stroking stuff!!!


:-)

Jk...

-K-


On 5/21/2017 4:25 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote:

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:


The thing about swimming - you get the water resistance - but, NO Actual
bodily type impacts


Yeah, but I did too much of one stroke and got (or exacerbated) a bad
rotator cuff injury. Rotator cuff surgery is one which you want to avoid,
by the way. Not Fun.


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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)]

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:

> The thing about swimming - you get the water resistance - but, NO Actual
> bodily type impacts


Yeah, but I did too much of one stroke and got (or exacerbated) a bad
rotator cuff injury. Rotator cuff surgery is one which you want to avoid,
by the way. Not Fun.


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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Kurt at VR-FX]

+1!

My Mom used to teach Biology and more in a nursing program. She has been 
swimming for YEARS as her primary exercise. The thing about swimming - 
you get the water resistance - but, NO Actual bodily type impacts - 
which occurs in most Other sports - and thus incurs injury over time. So 
- yeah a BIG Plus One on Michael's input!!!


-K-


On 5/18/2017 4:09 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

Ed,
Your 60 and, as I type this, I'm just a week or so away from 50 and have
had to have both of my knees replaced about 3 years ago.  Too much damage,
and arthritis, from my Air Force days.  Look at swimming at least in the
short term, for exercise.  You can get a complete workout without a huge
equipment expense.


-
Michael Oke, II
oke...@gmail.com
661-349-6221
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On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Edward Leafe  wrote:


Sorry to say, but it ain’t happening this year. Or next. If you’re so
inclined and financially able, please continue to donate to good causes,
but I won’t be raising money with my rides any more. If you’re interested
in the reason why:

https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/ 


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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Michael Oke, II]

Ed,
Your 60 and, as I type this, I'm just a week or so away from 50 and have
had to have both of my knees replaced about 3 years ago.  Too much damage,
and arthritis, from my Air Force days.  Look at swimming at least in the
short term, for exercise.  You can get a complete workout without a huge
equipment expense.


-
Michael Oke, II
oke...@gmail.com
661-349-6221
-

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Edward Leafe  wrote:

> Sorry to say, but it ain’t happening this year. Or next. If you’re so
> inclined and financially able, please continue to donate to good causes,
> but I won’t be raising money with my rides any more. If you’re interested
> in the reason why:
>
> https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/ 
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Kurt Wendt]

Ed - yeah - the CK Video clip is pretty darned funny - and I can also relate to 
it. With my eyes going bad, chronic back pain for YEARS now, bad knees - yup - 
been there, done that.

Was also reading your blog post - and saw your comment about idea on redesign 
of bike handle bars. Have you researched what's already out there - as I  
BELIEVE that some exotic handle bar designs already exist - even some may be 
specific for your problem. On the other hand - I could actually prototype 
something for you via 3D Printing. 

Regards,
Kurt Wendt
Senior Systems Analyst 


Tel. +1-212-747-9100
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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Edward Leafe
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:07 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

On May 18, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Fred Taylor <fbtay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I feel for you Ed.  My knee and my back certainly do.  

Thanks.

> Guess I'll wreck my
> kidneys/liver with all the naproxen and acetaminophen I take.


The Louis CK bit I linked to in the blog post is so true: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzEhoyXpqzQ 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzEhoyXpqzQ>


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RE: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Kurt Wendt]

Ted - you bring up some interesting points.

I'm on another forum besides this one - and many of you I am sure can guess 
what kind of forum it is. And, if your 1st guess was for Bachelors and meeting 
women - you'd be wrong. So - yeah - it's about 3D Printing. 

Well - there is a chap on there - he was very well known in the beginning when 
the forum started - his knickname was Wing Commander. He's located down under 
in Australia. I actually did a Skype call with him a couple years ago. A Very 
interesting chap indeed.

So - at one point - this project he was working on - for which he used 3D 
Printing to produce some of the parts - in particular - I remember the pedals 
he had 3D Printed. His project - a type of bike that's a stand up unit. It's 
like you are walking or jogging when riding the Bike. Its supposedly less 
strenuous on the body that jogging. And, although it's not a solution for Ed - 
the discussion here just reminded me of WC's product design!

Regards,
Kurt Wendt
Senior Systems Analyst 
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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:04 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
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On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Edward Leafe <e...@leafe.com> wrote:
>
> https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/ 
> <https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/>
>

Ed:

Sorry to hear your ailments are limiting your activities. I suspect we have a 
quorum of old guys in the forum who can catalog their glass ankles, rotator 
cuffs, sleep apnea, fading eyesight, bad knees, diminished hearing, etc. -- and 
that's just me! A good friend says "Old age is not for the faint of heart."

Inevitable, probably, but certainly working your medical providers to refer you 
to physical or occupational therapy when available. I've had OTs come up with 
some good adaptations over the years.

I hope you can find some accommodations that will let you continue to cycle.  A 
number of friends have moved from road bikes to slower-speed trekking and even 
upright cruisers, "don't go too fast, but they go pretty far." I live near the 
foothills to the White Mountains, and swear some of my short rides are more 
vertical than horizontal, but I enjoy getting out and getting some fresh air 
and rubber-necking.

Also, I don't know if there's anything local, but another friend, a well-known 
long-distance runner, is enjoying swimming as fitness exercise. Worth 
considering.

--
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com

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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Ted Roche]

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Edward Leafe  wrote:
>
> https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/ 
>

Ed:

Sorry to hear your ailments are limiting your activities. I suspect we
have a quorum of old guys in the forum who can catalog their glass
ankles, rotator cuffs, sleep apnea, fading eyesight, bad knees,
diminished hearing, etc. -- and that's just me! A good friend says
"Old age is not for the faint of heart."

Inevitable, probably, but certainly working your medical providers to
refer you to physical or occupational therapy when available. I've had
OTs come up with some good adaptations over the years.

I hope you can find some accommodations that will let you continue to
cycle.  A number of friends have moved from road bikes to slower-speed
trekking and even upright cruisers, "don't go too fast, but they go
pretty far." I live near the foothills to the White Mountains, and
swear some of my short rides are more vertical than horizontal, but I
enjoy getting out and getting some fresh air and rubber-necking.

Also, I don't know if there's anything local, but another friend, a
well-known long-distance runner, is enjoying swimming as fitness
exercise. Worth considering.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com

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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Edward Leafe]

On May 18, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Fred Taylor  wrote:

> I feel for you Ed.  My knee and my back certainly do.  

Thanks.

> Guess I'll wreck my
> kidneys/liver with all the naproxen and acetaminophen I take.


The Louis CK bit I linked to in the blog post is so true: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzEhoyXpqzQ 



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Re: [ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Fred Taylor]

I feel for you Ed.  My knee and my back certainly do.  Guess I'll wreck my
kidneys/liver with all the naproxen and acetaminophen I take.

Fred

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Edward Leafe  wrote:

> Sorry to say, but it ain’t happening this year. Or next. If you’re so
> inclined and financially able, please continue to donate to good causes,
> but I won’t be raising money with my rides any more. If you’re interested
> in the reason why:
>
> https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/ 
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
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[ADMIN] Spring Cycling for Charity

[Edward Leafe]

Sorry to say, but it ain’t happening this year. Or next. If you’re so inclined 
and financially able, please continue to donate to good causes, but I won’t be 
raising money with my rides any more. If you’re interested in the reason why:

https://blog.leafe.com/inevitable/ 


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