Re: [OT]: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-07 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ted Roche wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Gil Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps, but I feel this is worthy of no worse than an [NF] subject
 designation.

 It has no technical aspects. It has little if anything to do with
 running a technology business. It's US-centric. And it's annoying.
 Sounds like [OT] to me. Please take it there, or kill it.




Sheep.  There...killed it.  (And had already apologized for the missed
label, but seeing how you don't get my emails, well, ...)

I'll gladly donate a $1 fine to the next VFP convention.  Just give me the
link to the PayPal.  g





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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread John Weller
Hi Pete,

I don't do automatic deposits (whatever they may be) and we don't have HMRC
(Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs) benchmarks I'm please to say.

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631  

 Hi John!
 
 I didn't start the thread, but I think it would be 
 interesting to set a little routine in your income program to 
 do your deposits clear of any IRS or FBI benchmark. Perhaps 
 clear the benchmark by some random number, different every 
 time. Doesn't everybody do automatic deposits?
 --
 Regards,
 
 Pete
 http://pete-theisen.com/
 



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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread Andrew Stirling
John
Yes we do have money laundering restrictions in the UK

A HVD is any business prepared to accept high value payments (HVPs). A 
HVP is a payment of at least €15,000 (or equivalent in any currency) in 
cash for goods, whether it be in a single transaction or in several 
instalments. This includes circumstances where your customer deposits 
cash directly into your bank account.

If you are a HVD you need to:
 * put anti-money laundering systems in place so that you can 
identify and prevent money laundering and report any suspicious activities
 * register with us - failure to register with HM Revenue  Customs 
before beginning to trade and/or accepting HVPs (of €15,000 or more) 
will result in a penalty
 * pay an annual fee based on the number of premises through which 
you accept HVPs
 * report changes during the registration year



Andrew Stirling
01250 874580
http://www.calcpay.co.uk
HMRC Accredited UK payroll program


John Weller wrote:
 Hi Pete,
 
 I don't do automatic deposits (whatever they may be) and we don't have HMRC
 (Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs) benchmarks I'm please to say.
 
 John Weller
 01380 723235
 07976 393631  
 



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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread Pete Theisen
John Weller wrote:
 Hi Andrew,
 
 Thanks for that - I wasn't aware.  I don't deal in large sums of money since 
 I retired g.  I still think it is [OT] :-)

Hi John!

If you are considering the possibility of using any technical means of 
receiving and reporting the payments it meets the threshold for [NF]. If 
the software to do this can be written in FoxPro, as I believe it can, 
then it is OK for ProFox, as far as I know.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread Allen
I guess we could add FoxPro to almost anything if we thought about it.
Allen 

-Original Message-
If you are considering the possibility of using any technical means of 
receiving and reporting the payments it meets the threshold for [NF]. If 
the software to do this can be written in FoxPro, as I believe it can, 
then it is OK for ProFox, as far as I know.
-- 



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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Allen wrote:
 I guess we could add FoxPro to almost anything if we thought about it.
 Allen 
 
 -Original Message-
 If you are considering the possibility of using any technical means of 
 receiving and reporting the payments it meets the threshold for [NF]. If 
 the software to do this can be written in FoxPro, as I believe it can, 
 then it is OK for ProFox, as far as I know.

Hi Allen!

My FoxPro Guru-guy, Arthur Alton, told me long ago that FoxPro could do 
anything you can do with a computer. I talked to him a year ago and he 
said he still uses FoxPro occasionally. I didn't ask what he usually uses.

For me, the deal-breaker was M$.
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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread John Weller
Hi Andrew,

Thanks for that - I wasn't aware.  I don't deal in large sums of money since I 
retired g.  I still think it is [OT] :-)

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631  

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Stirling
 Sent: 06 November 2008 10:28
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS
 
 John
 Yes we do have money laundering restrictions in the UK 
 A HVD is any business prepared to accept high value payments 
 (HVPs). A HVP is a payment of at least €15,000 (or equivalent 
 in any currency) in cash for goods, whether it be in a single 
 transaction or in several instalments. This includes 
 circumstances where your customer deposits cash directly into 
 your bank account.
 
 If you are a HVD you need to:
  * put anti-money laundering systems in place so that you 
 can identify and prevent money laundering and report any 
 suspicious activities
  * register with us - failure to register with HM Revenue 
  Customs before beginning to trade and/or accepting HVPs (of 
 €15,000 or more) will result in a penalty
  * pay an annual fee based on the number of premises 
 through which you accept HVPs
  * report changes during the registration year 
 
 
 Andrew Stirling
 01250 874580
 http://www.calcpay.co.uk
 HMRC Accredited UK payroll program
 
 
 John Weller wrote:
  Hi Pete,
  
  I don't do automatic deposits (whatever they may be) and we 
 don't have 
  HMRC (Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs) benchmarks I'm 
 please to say.
  
  John Weller
  01380 723235
  07976 393631
  
 
 
 
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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread Gil Hale
 I guess we could add FoxPro to almost anything if we thought about it.
 Allen


Perhaps, but I feel this is worthy of no worse than an [NF] subject
designation.  I certainly gained a few tidbits of info I can use for my VFP
based analytical work for clients if called on to look at such matters.
Yeah, I had most of the legal requirements nailed down, but there were
nuances that were important, and several good sites offered for further
(mis)information.


Gil



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:36 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS


 I guess we could add FoxPro to almost anything if we thought about it.
 Allen

 -Original Message-
 If you are considering the possibility of using any technical means of
 receiving and reporting the payments it meets the threshold for [NF]. If
 the software to do this can be written in FoxPro, as I believe it can,
 then it is OK for ProFox, as far as I know.
 --



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[OT]: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Gil Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps, but I feel this is worthy of no worse than an [NF] subject
 designation.

It has no technical aspects. It has little if anything to do with
running a technology business. It's US-centric. And it's annoying.
Sounds like [OT] to me. Please take it there, or kill it.



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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread Whil Hentzen
John Weller wrote:
 Hi Andrew,
 
 Thanks for that - I wasn't aware.  I don't deal in large sums of money since 
 I retired g.  I still think it is [OT] :-)

As long as the discussion is about business rules, I'd say NF, but as 
soon as people start bitching about gov't regulation and opinining their 
philosophy... Tweet!

Whil


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Re: [OT]: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Ted Roche wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Gil Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Perhaps, but I feel this is worthy of no worse than an [NF] subject
 designation.
 
 It has no technical aspects. It has little if anything to do with
 running a technology business. It's US-centric. And it's annoying.
 Sounds like [OT] to me. Please take it there, or kill it.

Yassuh massah.

Of course, he won't see that! LOL.
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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-05 Thread Pete Theisen
John Weller wrote:
 I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?

Hi John!

If you were talking about foreign contributions via Visa/ MC gift 
cards to a certain US presidential campaign, yes. Otherwise, no.
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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-05 Thread Pete Theisen
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
 Gil,
 
 Have you thought of possibly purchasing a few gold coins
 or smaller gold bars, then simply placing them in a safe
 deposit box?
 
 Or, if they want to send it all off to me, I'll invest it in my house in
 their name. Anytime they wish, they can visit via Google Earth. :-D

Hi Kristyne!

You should ask for some of the money that the unspeakable-on-non-[OT] 
presidential candidate will have to give to charity. Not losing your 
house is a good cause.
-- 
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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-05 Thread Allen
Hhmm opinions obviously vary
Al 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pete Theisen
Hi John!

If you were talking about foreign contributions via Visa/ MC gift 
cards to a certain US presidential campaign, yes. Otherwise, no.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-05 Thread John Weller
So what exactly is the technical content?

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631  

 
 John Weller wrote:
  I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?
 
 Hi John!
 
 If you were talking about foreign contributions via Visa/ MC 
 gift cards to a certain US presidential campaign, yes. 
 Otherwise, no.
 --
 Regards,
 
 Pete
 http://pete-theisen.com/
 



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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-05 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Larry Miller wrote:
 Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on
consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the
poor.  However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to
manipulate us through the tax code.

 Larry Miller


And Congress doesn't want to give up tax dollars.





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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-05 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on 
 consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the poor. 
  However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate 
 us through the tax code.
--

Wasn't that tax code established to catch organized crime, Al Capone,
in the first place.

I want to have the consumption tax.

I don't see a bunch of lawyers enacting a bill to put a lot of lawyers
out of business.  Sharks will take care of their own.


-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Mimeo.com
Memphis TN

901.246-0159


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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-05 Thread Michael Madigan
And once again we have the first lady and the president both being lawyers.

* 
Barack Obama is not My President

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike


--- On Wed, 11/5/08, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money 
 deposited into banks and IRS)
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:07 PM
 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Larry Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and
 be based solely on consumption... which we know the rich do
 at much higher levels than the poor.  However congress would
 have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate us
 through the tax code.
 --
 
 Wasn't that tax code established to catch organized
 crime, Al Capone,
 in the first place.
 
 I want to have the consumption tax.
 
 I don't see a bunch of lawyers enacting a bill to put a
 lot of lawyers
 out of business.  Sharks will take care of their own.
 
 
 -- 
 Stephen Russell
 Sr. Production Systems Programmer
 Mimeo.com
 Memphis TN
 
 901.246-0159
 
 
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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-05 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on
consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the
poor.  However congress would have to be willing to give up the power
to manipulate us through the tax code.
 --

 Wasn't that tax code established to catch organized crime, Al Capone,
 in the first place.

 I want to have the consumption tax.

 I don't see a bunch of lawyers enacting a bill to put a lot of lawyers
 out of business.  Sharks will take care of their own.




That's why those jokers need term limits.  Don't let us have career
politicians!!!





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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-05 Thread Larry Miller
They just used the tax code to get Al Capone.  I'm sure we have a few more 
tools then Elliot Ness did back then, so we can feel free to dispense with it.  
You are correct about the lawyers... they thrive on complexity and ambiguity.

Larry Miller


- Original Message -
From: Stephen Russell 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:07:13 + (UTC)
Subject: Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money 
deposited into banks and IRS)

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Larry Miller  wrote:
 Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on 
 consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the poor. 
  However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate 
 us through the tax code.
--

Wasn't that tax code established to catch organized crime, Al Capone,
in the first place.

I want to have the consumption tax.

I don't see a bunch of lawyers enacting a bill to put a lot of lawyers
out of business.  Sharks will take care of their own.


-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Mimeo.com
Memphis TN

901.246-0159






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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-05 Thread Pete Theisen
John Weller wrote:
 So what exactly is the technical content?
 
 John Weller
 01380 723235
 07976 393631  
 
 John Weller wrote:
 I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?
 Hi John!

 If you were talking about foreign contributions via Visa/ MC 
 gift cards to a certain US presidential campaign, yes. 
 Otherwise, no.

Hi John!

I didn't start the thread, but I think it would be interesting to set a 
little routine in your income program to do your deposits clear of any 
IRS or FBI benchmark. Perhaps clear the benchmark by some random number, 
different every time. Doesn't everybody do automatic deposits?
-- 
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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread mike
I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the IRS. 
Dont quote me in that though.
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Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
There is a 10k trip wire where cash transactions  $10k are reported to the
Fed, but I do not know if it is IRS specific.  And merchants and banks do
not have to wait until the $10k is hit if they suspect somebody is trying to
play games.  Hence, if you go to a bank one day and deposit $5k, then the
next day deposit another $6k, the bank could opt to report that as it is
apparent the depositor may be trying to evade the $10k report matter.  I do
not know about any withdrawal amount that could trigger a required report,
but it would not surprise me at all.  Mike Wohlrab advises in a separate
eMail the $5k trip wire is in place.

In my case I anticipate having to pull $20k in cash for a reward for
someone in a few months (for instance, just an example of course g).  To
get away with that without tripping any wires I would need to electronically
send a few thousand here and there between accounts, then over a few weeks
withdraw a few thousand here and there from the various banks.  If anyone is
looking at these withdrawals on an inter-bank collective basis (using my
SSAN as a common reference point), despite being from different banks, I may
just end up getting reported for suspicious activity.  Allegedly this is to
prevent easy funding of drug trafficking and terrorist activity.  But I feel
it is flat out an invasion of my privacy.  If I want to pay someone a $20k
reward for a job well done, it is not my responsibility to make certain they
pay taxes on that amount.  I should not have to act in a suspicous or
criminal-like manner with smaller disbursements over a few weeks from
several banks to get what I want done.  Yet that is exactly what is going
on.

Bottom line, if you need to do a large cash transaction, do it.  You may end
up being interrogated or sent to Gitmo g.  But if you have a plausible
reason for the transaction there ought not be any problem, but expect to be
questioned.  If it was me, and were I to be questioned, I would demand to
have one of my attorneys present as I do not trust these spook fuckers in
the least with their leading questions designed to trap a person into an
alleged lie.  Then the real trouble begins.

I have known a few car delaers who have had to report large cash purchases,
and the customers later gripe about soon after getting questioned about the
source of the emoney, etc.  In one case a customer was a businessman who
just wanted to get his girlfriend a new car without his wife finding out.
Well, the spooks went to his home and took him out for questioning.  The
wife got suspicious, and he ended up getting divorced by his wife as the
media got wind of the event and put the pieces together, then published it.
The customer was trying to sue the dealer for starting the whole ball
rolling, invasion of privacy.  Craziness...

I hope the cash transaction you are looking at doing can't be
(mis)interprested as having anything to do with a potentially illegal or
questionable activity.  If it is even a little edgy looking you are really
asking for trouble.  If the IRS does get wind of a large cash deposit that
is unusual looking you may end up getting audited just because.  Were it me
I would open a few accounts at different banks over a period of time, then
make smaller deposits into each one and do some check transactions in
smaller amounts ($500 or so) between them if you must have all the money in
a single account.  Keep it split up, better yet.

Personally I have 14 accounts between 5 different banks, some of which are
business accounts.  I intentionally move cash between the banks just to make
certain if I do have a sizeable transaction for any reason it does not look
unusual in the overall scheme of things.  Why?  Because I can.  Seriously,
it is because if I do have a large injection or withdrawal of funds, even if
spread over several interbank accounts it will not be as likely to trigger
anyone's attention.

Are you getting paranoid yet?  Good.  That is the other point, folks.  There
is not anything that we do that can't be traced one way or another, and it
sucks.  And it is going to get worse unless we start to take a stand on
things as seemingly minor as cameras at traffic intersections looking for
folks jumping a red light (or running yellow lights after the local
authorities decrease the timing of yellow lights to boost fines - in the
name of increasing safety of course).  For the elected officials who allow
these things to occur, vote the jerks out, and let the current folks know
your position re: potential invasion of privacy.  I hate what I see
happening with our rights under the pretense of security from terrorists.

Gil



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 Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
 banks get that amount, 

Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread John
Unless they have drastically lowered the amount, it was all transactions of
10k or more.

John Harvey

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I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the IRS.
Dont quote me in that though.
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Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
to know.

tia,
--Michael





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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
Oh, more on the safe deposit box folks.  With a personally used safe deposit
box you can deduct the cost from taxes - AFTER you meet a certain threshold
where such legal, financial and banking expenses exceed a percentage of your
Adjusted Gross Income.  BUT, if these such expenses are business related you
can deduct them from the first cent!  So, what I did is I got a large safe
deposit box, and I use it to place my weekly rotation of backup tapes - a
legitimate business use.  But I also use the same box for personal items and
some gold coins and bullion.  I do not (have to?) report the partial
personal use of the box.  So I deduct the annual fee from my taxes each
year, and get the use of the box at no additional personal charge or
penalty.  So, if you do decide to get a deposit box to hide/store your
cash amount, open the safe deposit box under your business name and take the
deduction.  Be sure you have a legitimate (sounding) business purpose for
the box, like storing contracts, backup tapes, etc.

heh-heh...

Gil

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 Be afraid, be verr afraid.

 Have you thought of possibly purchasing a few gold coins or smaller gold
 bars, then simply placing them in a safe deposit box?  If you go to
 different coin dealers with a few grand here and there, and select your
 coins/artifacts carefully so you do not lose value in the
 exchange were you
 to have to liquidate the artifacts shortly later.  Or, just place the cash
 into a dafe deposit box, in the privacy of the little room where you are
 supposed to be able to put thiings into, and take things out of, the box.
 If you are not concerned with interest being paid on the cash that may be
 your best bet.

 Gil


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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Jeff Johnson
 http://www.bankingquestions.com/businessaccounts/q_depositreportedtoirs.html

Jeff

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the IRS. 
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 Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
 banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
 out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
 to know.
 
 tia,
 --Michael
 



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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
No drama, shame...  heh-heh g...

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 http://www.bankingquestions.com/businessaccounts/q_depositreported
 toirs.html

 Jeff

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  I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports
 you to the IRS. Dont quote me in that though.
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  Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
  banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
  out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
  to know.
 
  tia,
  --Michael
 



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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act

Regards,

LelandJ

MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
 banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
 out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
 to know.

 tia,
 --Michael





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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread John Weller
I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?

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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Jeff Johnson wrote:
 http://www.bankingquestions.com/businessaccounts/q_depositreportedtoirs.html
 

Thanks a grand (10, actually), Jeff!  ;-)



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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
Perhaps NF as it could impact how we have to code a solution for clients who
do handle large cash transactions.  It would be nice for all of us to be
aware of this matter.  I know my car dealers have to deal with it with cash
transactions.

Gil

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 I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?

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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
John Weller wrote:
 I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?


yeah, my bad...sorry!  I was thinking along the lines of a VFP app 
involved.hence why I forgot to add the moniker most likely.  ;-)



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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Gil,

 Have you thought of possibly purchasing a few gold coins
 or smaller gold bars, then simply placing them in a safe
 deposit box?

Or, if they want to send it all off to me, I'll invest it in my house in
their name. Anytime they wish, they can visit via Google Earth. :-D

Kristyne McDaniel
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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
Be careful.

My understanding is that if you pay any person $600 or more in one calendar 
year you are required to report their SSN on a 1099. We
pay outside trainers for our software. We always get their SSN and store it in 
their vendor record. If their receipts in one year
reach $600 they get a 1099. I do not think any reporting is required for 
payments to corporations.

Of course, I believe you are allowed to give anyone $11,000 per year tax free.

We would need a tax guy to tell all the different twists on this.


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But I feel it is flat out an invasion of my privacy.  If I want to pay someone 
a $20k
reward for a job well done, it is not my responsibility to make certain they
pay taxes on that amount.  I should not have to act in a suspicous or
criminal-like manner with smaller disbursements over a few weeks from
several banks to get what I want done.  Yet that is exactly what is going
on.

Gil




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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
KAM.covad wrote:
 Be careful.
 
 My understanding is that if you pay any person $600 or more in one calendar 
 year you are required to report their SSN on a 1099. We
 pay outside trainers for our software. We always get their SSN and store it 
 in their vendor record. If their receipts in one year
 reach $600 they get a 1099. I do not think any reporting is required for 
 payments to corporations.
 
 Of course, I believe you are allowed to give anyone $11,000 per year tax free.
 
 We would need a tax guy to tell all the different twists on this.


Do we have any tax guys on the list?



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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Nicholas Geti
That is true. It is $10,000. 
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html


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 Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
 banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
 out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
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 tia,
 --Michael





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[OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Nicholas Geti wrote:
 That is true. It is $10,000.
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html


Some folks say we should get rid of the IRS entirely and just have a
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What are your thoughts on that?





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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
You would still need an IRS to collect the sales tax.

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 Nicholas Geti wrote:
  That is true. It is $10,000.
 
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html
 
 
 Some folks say we should get rid of the IRS entirely and
 just have a
 national sales tax.
 
 What are your thoughts on that?
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
Be afraid, be verr afraid.

Have you thought of possibly purchasing a few gold coins or smaller gold
bars, then simply placing them in a safe deposit box?  If you go to
different coin dealers with a few grand here and there, and select your
coins/artifacts carefully so you do not lose value in the exchange were you
to have to liquidate the artifacts shortly later.  Or, just place the cash
into a dafe deposit box, in the privacy of the little room where you are
supposed to be able to put thiings into, and take things out of, the box.
If you are not concerned with interest being paid on the cash that may be
your best bet.

Gil


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  I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the
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Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
to know.

tia,
--Michael





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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-04 Thread Larry Miller
Excellent idea, as it would encourage investment and be based solely on 
consumption... which we know the rich do at much higher levels than the poor.  
However congress would have to be willing to give up the power to manipulate us 
through the tax code.

Larry Miller


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Nicholas Geti wrote:
 That is true. It is $10,000.
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html


Some folks say we should get rid of the IRS entirely and just have a
national sales tax.

What are your thoughts on that?









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