Re: [PEDA] PCs WAS: Protel 99SE on Windows XP

2002-08-17 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support

 Yea it is my only Compaq, and maybe my last.   Compaq may be smarter than
 the rest of the industryThey have built hardware speciifially to run a
 specific OS. Sounds like an  Apple Computer doesnt it?

Making crappy proprietary hardware, becoming reviled in the industry for
poor quality, reliability, and support, having several consecutive quarters
of losses, and then getting merged into a competitor doesn't fit my
definition of smart.  I'm no fan of Apple, but the only thing they ever
had in common with Compaq was having several consecutive quarters of losses.

Interestingly, I have heard that Compaq is highly regarded for their
professional lines of computers (servers, prof desktops, etc.).  It's the
Presario and other consumer lines that have given them the bad reputation.
I guess they figured that the consumer doesn't need a reliable machine, only
the pros do.  What a big PR policy mistake!  For every IT manager saying how
good Compaq is, there are hundreds or thousands of consumers that can
badmouth Compaq.

I have been buying only locally-built white box PCs for my business and home
use for over 4 years now.  All of them have performed up to expectations,
none have needed repair, and some have been upgraded with standard parts.  I
couldn't be happier with them.  Besides, I can customize them with stuff you
can't get from the big brands:  removable IDE drive bays, PCMCIA slots,
dual-monitor video cards, etc.

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


- Original Message -
From: Michael Reagan (EDSI) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE on Windows XP


 Ivan wrote

  
   I hope that one Compaq is the only one you ever bought.  I had one
some
   years ago (PII-266) and it was absolute junk.  Yes, Compaq does make
   proprietary version of Windows for their PCs.  How smart is that - a
   proprietary version of a proprietary OS?

 Yea it is my only Compaq, and maybe my last.   Compaq may be smarter than
 the rest of the industryThey have built hardware speciifially to run a
 specific OS. Sounds like an  Apple Computer doesnt it?



 Mike




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Re: [PEDA] PCs WAS: Protel 99SE on Windows XP

2002-08-17 Thread Katinka Mills

 -Original Message-
 From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2002 11:28 PM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] PCs WAS: Protel 99SE on Windows XP

el snipo

 I have been buying only locally-built white box PCs for my
 business and home
 use for over 4 years now.  All of them have performed up to expectations,
 none have needed repair, and some have been upgraded with
 standard parts.  I
 couldn't be happier with them.  Besides, I can customize them
 with stuff you
 can't get from the big brands:  removable IDE drive bays, PCMCIA slots,
 dual-monitor video cards, etc.

 Best regards,
 Ivan Baggett
 Bagotronix Inc.
 website:  www.bagotronix.com

Hi Ivan and all,

I can not agree more with white boxes ;o), I clean mine out every 6 months,
replace the fans as they fail or feel like they are sticking on poles with
ball bearing ones (slightly noiser due to the higher RPM)

I have had only minor failurers 1 network card and a few video cards, the
video cards had sezed fans and with the AU heat and no AC or roof insulation
(is a government owned rental ) we get weeks of 35 C inside the house, my
office (a 20' Insulated sea container will get AC this summer I hope).

Although I had faliures, all were replaced under warantty, and all were what
I call minor faults. Plus I do not have to be told what my PC has :o), I can
upgrade a CPU / MB / RAM with no special parts.

The only downside was I got stuck with a Slot A cpu and MB, but is no biggie
as when I need to upgrade this box, it will go to the kids or be turned into
another FreeBSD server ;o)


Now if only protel would release a Unix version (tried eagle but as Tony
pointed out it is kids ware and was next to useless, after 2 days of wasted
time I gave up and reloaded windows (also could not print PDF files properly
( I like to send a 400 page PDF to the printer and forget about it, not sit
there and look at the last page printed and tell it to do the rest multiple
times))



Regards,

Kat.

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