[protest-ro] Dead Link

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Locnav Livoc


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Re: [protest-ro] Dead Link

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

From: Locnav Livoc [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Website www.anti-armata.as.ro is no longer hosted on As.Ro 
 webservers.

Da' UNDE este hostat?
Sau l-au desfiintat de tot?

Ce-ai vrut, de fapt, sa ne comunici cu asta?

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[protest-ro] Fw: [elkorg2] Re: [ograda] Tenet calls for Internet security

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

From: inot [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Retransmis.
 Bush a ajuns sa se teama de internet, la fel cum Ceausescu se temea de
calculatoare.
 A. Apahideanu

 Ady Popescu wrote:
Tenet calls for Internet security
By Shaun Waterman
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
Published December 2, 2004

Former CIA Director George  J. Tenet yesterday called for new security
measures to  guard against attacks  on the United States  that use the
Internet, which he called a potential Achilles' heel.

I know  that these actions will be controversial  in this age when we still
think the Internet is a free and open society with no control or
accountability, he told an information-technology security conference in
Washington,  but  ultimately  the  Wild  West must  give  way  to
governance and control.

The former CIA director said telecommunications - and specifically the
Internet - are a  back door through which terrorists and other enemies of
the United  States  could attack  the country,  even  ough great strides
have been made in securing the physical infrastructure.
 The Internet represents a  potential Achilles' heel for our financial
stability and  physical security  if the networks we  are creating are not
protected, Mr. Tenet said.
He said known  adversaries, including intelligence services, military
organizations  and  non-state  actors,  are  researching  information
attacks against the United States.

Within the federal government, the Department of Homeland Security has the
lead role  in  protecting the  Internet from  terrorism.  But the
department's head of cyber-security recently quit amid reports that he had
clashed with his superiors.

Mr.  Tenet, who  retired in July  as director  of the CIA  after seven
years, warned that al Qaeda remains a sophisticated group, even though its
first-tier leadership largely has been destroyed.
It  is  undoubtedly mapping  vulnerabilities  and  weaknesses in  our
telecommunications networks, he said.

Mr. Tenet pointed out  that the modernization of key industries in the
United States  is making them more  vulnerable by connecting them with an
Internet that is open to attack.

The way the Internet  was built might be part of the problem, he said. Its
open architecture allows  Web surfing, but that openness makes the system
vulnerable, Mr. Tenet said.

Access to networks like the World Wide Web might need to be limited to those
who can show they take security seriously, he said.

Mr. Tenet  called for  industry to lead  the way by  establishing and
enforcing  security  standards.  Products  need to  be  delivered  to
government and private-sector customers  with a new level of security and
risk management already built in.

The national  press, including United Press  International (UPI), were
excluded from  yesterday's event,  at Mr. Tenet's  request, organizers said.

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[protest-ro] ROMPRES despre Simpozionul RWW Group 5-7 nov 2004 Haga

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Theodor Banu


De pe Forumul RWW Group...

Date:  Sun Dec 5, 2004  3:27 am 
Subject:  ROMPRES despre Simpozionul RWW Group 5-7 nov 2004 Haga

 
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Simpozion la Haga privind influenþa construirii Canalului Bâstroe
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Haga, 5 nov - Trimisii speciali ai Rompres Anca Pandea, Oana
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Romanian Worldwide Group (RWW), la care au participat reprezentanti
ai asociatiilor românesti din Italia, Spania,Canada, Germania,
Olanda, Republica Moldova si România.
Punctul de vedere ecologist a fãcut obiectul mai multor
comunicãri. Din aceastã perspectivã, s-a propus luarea unor mãsuri
de sensibilizare a conventiilor internationale, dar si o colaborare
cu organizatii ecologiste cum este Greenpeace.
Legislatia internationalã si respectarea conventiilor
internationale de cãtre statele semnatare a fost un alt punct
fierbinte al dezbaterilor. Participantii la simpozion, printre care
si juristi, au apreciat cã, din nefericire, nu existã formule
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Prezent la seminarul de la Haga, guvernatorul Rezervatiei
biosferei Delta Dunãrii, Virgil Munteanu a semnalat faptul cã
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desi autoritatile ucrainene au declarat oficial cã faza a II-a a
acestui proiect nu va fi demaratã. Virgil Munteanu a arãtat cã
existã deja semnale îngrijorãtoare privind impactul negativ al
acestui proiect asupra florei si faunei Deltei Dunarii - coloniile
de chive de mare au dispãrut, iar în pericol sunt si cele de
pelicani, populaþiile de pesti si pãdurea Letea, prima rezervatie
naturalã din România. Întrucât Ucraina îºs va continua, probabil,
proiectul, România va trebui sã-si concentreze eforturile pentru
contracararea efectelor acestuia asupra teritoriului românesc, a
declarat guvernatorul Deltei Dunãrii, care a adãugat cã un consortiu
de instituþii de cercetare din România va finaliza pânã pe 25
noiembrie a.c. un studiu privind impactul de mediu ce va conþine si
mãsuri de contracarare. Acestea vizeazã în principal reactivarea
unor canale si gârle în lungime totalã de circa 300 kilometri,
proiect care este foarte costisitor.
Asa cum este si firesc în cadrul seminarului au fost abordate si
aspecte legate de modalitãtile prin care societatea civilã se poate
implica în apãrarea monumentului ecologic care este Delta Dunãrii.
De altfel RWW este initiatorul unei petitii on-line prin care
românii din tarã dar mai ales cei din diaspora au protestat fatã de
construirea canalului Bâstroe. Petitia on-line, pe care au semnat-o
peste 42.000 de persoane, a fost înaintatã forurilor
internationale.ROMPRES


3--diaspora- Deltã-apel apa/afg/
18 nov.
Rezolutia seminarului SOS Danube Delta
Sub genericul SOS Danube Delta, grupul de lobby Romanians
Worldwide (RWW Group), sustinut si de Uniunea Mondialã a Românilor
Liberi cu sediul la Paris, a desfãsurat de-a lungul anului 2004 o
serie de actiuni de sensibilizare a opiniei publice internationale
asupra efectelor catastrofale pe care le are constructia canalului
Bâstroe asupra Deltei Dunãrii în ansamblu. Ca un corolar al
actiunilor întreprinse de RWW, la începutul lunii noiembrie a avut
loc, la Haga, simpozionul international SOS Danube Delta.
Exprimându-si speranþa cã eforturile societãtii civile alãturate
celor ale diplomatiei românesti vor determina Ucraina sã asculte
glasul ratiunii, participantii la Simpozion au hotãrât expedierea
unui apel international pe adresa Parlamentului si Consiliului
Europei, Comisiei Economice Europene,ONU, NATO, Casa Albã, Vatican,
Patriarhia Ortodoxã de la Constantinopol,UNESCO, FMI, Banca
Mondialã, cerându-li-se o implicare mai vizibilã, în sensul apãrãrii
si salvãrii unui areal protejat de UNESCO, Delta Dunãrii.
S-a cerut cresterea incisivitãtii campaniei de lobby sustinute de
RWW Group, pentru a constientiza opinia publicã internationalã în
legãturã cu tensiunea creatã la granita Uniunii Europene, în Delta
Dunarii, în spetã pe Canalul Bâstroe.
Este de retinut cã RWW a initiat o petitie online SOS Danube
Delta care a fost semnatã de peste 42 000 de persoane si peste 100
asociatii neguvernamentale din România si întreaga lume.
 






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Re: [protest-ro] Re: 4 ani de lista :)

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

From: cbjola [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sa fie intr-un ceas bun. Apropo, nu se pune de vreo paranghelie cu
 ocazia asta? Pe bune! Care protestatar pune casa la bataie? Merge si o
 carciuma la o adica, dar nu bombe si eventual smoke-free...

Pai, ziceam s-o aranjeze altii, pe miercuri (cu toate ca, pana la urma, s-ar
putea sa vin chiar eu).
Din pacate, din cate mi-am dat io seama, protesteaza mai mult ãi fara casa
;)))
Dar daca exista cineva care face exceptie oAu!

 Basca ca putem organiza si niste alegeri ad-hoc pt functia de
 presedinte al Partidului Protestatarilor, pe care le vom fura ulterior
 cu sarg. Ramane de stabilit cine va candida: Codrutza, Toniuc, Octav,
 Branea, Cheval din gasca veche si care din cea noua??

Domne, m-am hotarat pana la urma sa candidez ;)
Pun la bataie postul de owner al listei ;))
Dl. Branea, din pacate, s-ar putea sa nu fie in tzara... SI mai din pacate
s-ar parea ca are intentia sa ne paraseasca pentru mai multa vreme.
S-ar parea ca si-a facut curaj sa-si intinda aripioarele - si ca n-a picat -
isi ia zborul. :(
Eu sper sa mai ramana, totusi, pe lista ;). Nu de alta, dar rorul D-sale in
evenimentele protestatare nu poate fi neglijat... nici cuantificat, de
altfel, hihih.

D-l Cheval se pare ca nu mai este pe lista, de prin mai dar cred ca isi
scoate trompa la o intalnire cu tine ;))

 Ca turist electoral  ma ofer pe mine. Trebuie sa ajung sapt viitoare
 cu oaresce treburi prin Bucuresti, asa ca sunt disponibil. Cu sa fara
 alegeri, paraghelia se cere facuta oricum, zic eu. Pune botu' careva?

Noa. pai zi cand vii poate-l momim si pe D-l Cheval ;))

Codruta

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[protest-ro] da kiar!

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

ce se mai aude cu mitingul ala?
A fost sau nu a fost? Era provocare sau nu? Era sau nu tzeapa?
???

Codruta


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Re: [protest-ro] New file uploaded to protest-ro

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie codruta

From: valachus per skorilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 De curiozitate, daca vreunul aude la radio si/sau tv de povestea asta, sa
 faca gestul gentil si sa dea sfoara-n tzara. Eu unul dau o bere pentru
calul
 celui care o sa surprinda momentul cesta istoric (o lada daca la
respectivul
 post radio/tv se da CHIAR inregistrarea).

Pana la coada au zis ca Nastase ar fi glumit ;))
Oricum, Nastase a cedat nervos - s-a luat la greu de ziaristii de la EvZ, pe
motiv ca s-ar lega de orientarea lui sexuala - ceea ce aceia nici macar n-au
facut :-p
Bombo, in frumosul si deja consacratul lui stil, a zis ca e dispus sa le
demonstreze nevestelor celor de la EvZ ca e... hmmm ca nu e homo... de
parca n-ai putea, la urma-urmelor, sa fii si ambi (sau cum i-o zice) :-ppp

In fond, toata chestia asta penibila nici n-ar fi trebuit sa aiba loc, daca
marlanii din PSD nu si-sr fi orientat o parte din campanie catre ideea lui
Base de a da liber la casatoriile homosexuale.

Codruta

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[protest-ro] Fw: [ro-pol] BBC pacalit

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

From: g [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Broadcaster to launch inquiry after falling for Bhopal hoax

By Stephanie Kirchgaessner and David Firn
The Financial Times
Published: December 4 2004 02:00 | Last updated: December 4 2004 02:00

The BBC said it would launch an internal investigation into a report it
broadcast yesterday morning in which a man purporting to work for Dow
Chemical claimed the company would take responsibility for the Bhopal
tragedy and was setting up a $12bn (£6.2bn) compensation fund for
victims.

The hoax, which involved a live interview with a man posing as a Dow
spokesperson, ran twice on BBC World yesterday and was retracted later in
the day by the news organisation.

This interview was inaccurate, part of an elaborate deception, the BBC
said in statement.

The blunder raises fresh questions about the BBC's commitment to careful
scrutiny of the accuracy of its reporting less than one year after the
release of the Hutton report, which was intensely critical of the news
group's editorial standards.

The error also provided the BBC with an unwelcome reminder of the dangers of
the use of live and unscripted two-way interviews - a technique the BBC was
urged to avoid following a review of its editorial standards by Ronald Neil,
former director of BBC News and Current Affairs.

A person familiar with how the Bhopal report was prepared by the BBC said a
London-based researcher had contacted the fake Dow employee - who called
himself Jude Finesterra - after finding his name and number on a Dow website
that had been either hacked or mirrored. The BBC then arranged the
interview with Mr Finesterra and was told by the prankster that he had
something significant to say during the live broadcast - though he was not
prepared to reveal details before going on air.

Dow yesterday said its website had never been penetrated by hackers, but
fake or mirror sites set up by pressure groups were not uncommon.

The US company also said it was considering launching a formal complaint
under a new system set up by the BBC in the wake of the David Kelly affair.

No one at Dow was contacted prior to this story . . . We have higher
expectations of journalists, said Terri McNeill, a Dow spokeswoman.

Twenty years ago, a leak of methyl isocyanate gas from a Bhopal factory
owned by Union Carbide, a Dow subsidiary, killed more than 7,000 people. Up
to 15,000 are estimated to have died since from respiratory problems,
breakdown of immune systems, breast and cervical cancer and neurological
disorders caused by the gas.



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[protest-ro] iese cine trebe

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

Nu mai stiu pe care din liste am primit link-ul asta (scuze daca il repet) - 
da-i BUN ;)
http://iesecinetrebe.com/images.php

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[protest-ro] Adevarul - Doar 50 din cele 3.500 de institutii publice din Capitala au rampe utile pentru handicapati

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

Adaug la asta nu doar ca am vazut o gramada de rampe facute in batjocura 
(adica imposibil de folosit) ci si ca, de exemplu, la hotelul Silva din Busteni 
(cica unitate cu pretentii :-p) la rampa pentru persoane cu dizabilitati este 
pusa... o bariera!!! 
Pentru neincrezatori, am poze!!! :-p

Codruta

http://www.adevarulonline.ro/index.jsp?page=articolsection_id=3article_id=108154

* Gara de Nord, singura statie de metrou care are un lift pentru persoanele in 
scaun rulant * Singurul tramvai cu sistem de urcare pentru handicapati sta in 
depou

Din peste 3.500 de institutii publice din Capitala, numai 50 au rampe de acces 
cu adevarat utile persoanelor cu handicap, respectand inclinatia de 9 grade si 
materialul impus de norme, sustine Constantin Petrosel, inspector la Inspectia 
Regionala Bucuresti-Ilfov pentru persoane cu handicap. Restul institutiilor 
le-au facut la nimereala, fie prea inalte, fie pur si simplu din prepeleac de 
lemn, folosit la culesul fructelor din copaci. Se pare ca, in majoritatea 
cazurilor, sumele investite in accesibilizari sunt bani aruncati pe apa 
sambetei. Asta fiindca in majoritatea cazurilor rampele raman nefolosite: 
omului in carucior ii este foarte greu, daca nu chiar imposibil, sa urce de 
unul singur o rampa abrupta. La Autoritatea Nationala pentru Persoanele cu 
Handicap, cei in fotoliu ajung la etaj cu un scaun care urca si coboara ca un 
lift. Ca sa aiba cu ce sa se deplaseze la etaj dupa ce coboara din scaun, omul 
are nevoie tot de scaunul cu care a venit de acasa. Pe acesta, insotitorul 
trebuie sa i-l care in spinare, pe scari. Acum un an, in statia de metrou din 
Gara de Nord a fost amplasat un lift modern, special pentru persoanele in 
fotoliu rulant. Numai ca de aici persoana cu handicap n-are cum sa mai iasa la 
suprafata la statia dorita, fiindca Gara de Nord e unica statie de metrou din 
Capitala care poseda asemenea lift. Celelalte nu au nici macar rampe de acces. 
Desi de cativa ani se tot vorbeste de accesibilizarea mijloacelor de transport 
in comun, in prezent nu functioneaza nici un autobuz sau troleibuz amenajat 
special pentru persoane cu handicap. Exista un tramvai cu un sistem de urcare a 
celor cu handicap, dar sta in depou, metoda fiind inaplicabila. Ar trebui ca 
vatmanul sa coboare si sa traga o rampa de sub tramvai pe care sa se urce 
persoana cu caruciorul. Apoi urca iar, sa apese butonul prin care omul e urcat 
cu scaunul si iar coboara sa traga rampa. Procedeul dureaza vreo 10 minute, 
spune inspectorul Petrosel.

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[protest-ro] Dragii mei toti RE : +Teo Peter

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie VB

Incidentul este regretabil si are o gravitate  vizibila mai ales  ca victima 
are notorietate publica.
 
In acelasi timp insa, lasand la o parte reciprocitatea  statutului diplomatic 
reamintesc colegilor de lista ca  nu exista in intreaga istorie  a lumii o 
situatie in care  acreditatii  pe teritoriile  unor tari fie civili sau 
militari nu au  avut  de rezolvat situatii similare sau chiar mai grave.
 
O actiune civila de protest  pe aceasta  tema este total inutila, de preost 
gust si creeaza o proasta imagine memoriei victimei pentru care  fiecare dintre 
noi am avut respect atat cat a fost in viata si continuam sa avem respect si 
cand este in nefiinta  . 
 
In acelasi timp indrept  atentia celor interesati in  urmarirea felului cum, 
daca va fi dovedit vinovat, autorul incidentului va fi pedepsit in cadrul 
legilor  militare USA
 
Vasile Bouleanu   .
 


Codruta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Toma Peiu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Desi stiu ca o sa fiu probabil admonestat pentru aceasta abatere, nu ma pot
abtine sa nu va atrag atentia spre un eveniment foarte grav care a indoliat
lumea artistica romaneasca si, prin consecintele sale, a aratat inca o data
tipul de atitudine pe care o promoveaza guvernul SUA: moartea bassistului de
la Compact, Teo Peter, intr-un accident provocat de comandantul puscasilor
marini al ambasadei SUA aflat in stare de ebrietate, evacuat ulterior de
urgenta din tara, pana ca autoritatile sa se dezmeticeasca.
Daca doriti ca aceasta strigatoare la cer imoralitate sa nu treaca
neobservata si daca va deranjeaza felul in care inteleg sa trateze
reprezentantii guvernului american autoritatile din Romania, tara aliata, va
asteptam
MAINE,LUNI,6 DECEMBRIE 2004 LA ORA 16 30,in fata AMBASADEI SUA din
Bucuresti!

Relatii la telefon 0745.90.50.12.
Multumesc anticipat si imi cer scuze inca o data pentru aceasta interventie
off-topic!

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[protest-ro] INTREBARE ! ?

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie VB


Are cineva un raport independent despre numarul de persoane prezente la marea 
demonstratie anuntata pe toate meridianele pentru ziua de 4 decembrie  a.c. in 
Piata Universitatii ? ceva fotografii ? 

 

Vasile Bouleanu   .


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[protest-ro] Pentru Codruta / Dragii mei toti RE : +Teo Peter

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie VB

Generalizarea si schimbarea de subiect  caracterizeaza tehnica de conversatie 
preferata a extremei in general de la stanga  la dreapta fara exceptie.
 
In cazul de fata care nu contine  nici un termen de  comparatie cu incidentul 
din Italia singurul numitor comun al evenimentelor ramane faptul ca  ambele 
incidente sau intamplat in tari membre NATO. 
 
In rest despre reciprocitatea  conventiilor  diplomatice te sfatuiesc sa te  
adresezi Ministerului de Externe  al Romaniei care  te va lamuri  cu siguranta 
ca  exista si cazuri inverse in care diplomati romani sau membri administrativi 
ai  diferitelor consuilate ala Romaniei au fost in situatii  daca nu similare 
cel putin  egale din punct de vedere al gravitatii pe teritorii straine.
 
Si daca TU CODRUTA vrei sa schimbi  o practica a diplomatiei mondiale... . eu 
i-ti urez succes !
 
Vasile Bouleanu   .


Codruta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: VB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In acelasi timp indrept  atentia celor interesati in  urmarirea felului
cum, daca va fi dovedit vinovat, autorul incidentului va fi pedepsit in
cadrul legilor  militare USA

Mi-am amintit de faza aia in care un american betzivan a dat cu avionul
peste cablul unei telecabine in Italia, omorand vreo 20 de oameni!
Poate va amintiti ce pedeapsa i-au dat americanii? :-p

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[protest-ro] Fw: [crp_pntcd] Can Democracy Be Saved in Romania, or Is the Country Heading towards an Authoritarian System?

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie gane-muenchen

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From: Marius M 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:05 PM
Subject: [crp_pntcd] Can Democracy Be Saved in Romania, or Is the Country 
Heading towards an Authoritarian System?


  http://www.petitiononline.com/rom28nov/petition.html
  Can Democracy Be Saved in Romania, or Is the Country Heading towards an 
Authoritarian System? 


  View Current Signatures   -   Sign the Petition 


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To:  international mass-media, The European Commision, human rights and 
democracy organizations, embassies in Romania, foreign affairs departments of 
the democratic states 
Dear Sirs, 



Romania goes through a crisis unprecedented since the 1989 alleged 
revolution, all the significant parties of the opposition rejecting the result 
of the recent parliamentary and presidential elections on grounds of massive 
fraud. There is no doubt about the fraud itself, but only about its dimensions. 
The evidence is already overwhelming. 
Democrat leader and presidential candidate Traian Basescu, who asked the 
cancellation of Sunday's elections because of frauds, said in an interview with 
Evenimentul zilei that the ruling Social Democrat Party (PSD) is trying to 
justify a fraud of almost 450,000 votes, which had been declared null, with the 
support of the Central Electoral Bureau (BEC). 
All media channels were blocked against the announcement of the fact that 
an electoral fraud was committed and Traian Basescu was shamelessly attacked by 
journalists and analysts. 
The Central Electoral Bureau still has to clearly explain the apparent 
boost of the support for the leading socialist party (PSD) between the 12.00 pm 
and 17.00 pm, on November 28th, concomitantly with the mathematically 
impossible decrease of the number of cancelled votes in the exact same period 
of time. 
Other suspicions are raised by the BEC's refuse to allow an independent 
checking of the computers and the software, so as to investigate the apparent 
error. And, instead of dealing seriously with the grave accusations of the 
opposition parties, the BEC's president criticized Traian Basescu in a 
politically partisan declaration that goes against his duty as a judge to 
remain impartial. 
There are overwhelming proofs that numerous citizens had the possibility to 
vote several times, because the voters could cast their vote anywhere in the 
country, by simply soliciting to be registered on a supplementary list and more 
so, the only means to control whether or not one had voted was an easily 
detachable stamp glued on the identity card. Tens of buses were spotted on the 
elections day carrying voters from one village or town to another. ONGs as Pro 
Democratia and other persons have warned about these problems ever since 
October 2003, following the numerous abuses occurred during the Constitution's 
revision referendum. Members of the civic organizations were harassed by the 
governing party during and after the elections and were often offered bribe. 
The main televisions, be they public or private, manipulated the voters by 
omission, uninforming them about the Pro Democratia Association's report and 
its withdrawal from the process of observing the elections as a desperate 
warning sign, even though these events were making headlines in the 
international press. The televisions also ignored the subject of the stenograms 
from the PSD's sessions, even though these documents (admitted as real by some 
PSD high rank members) refer to the electoral legislation and the state's 
institutions in a manner that may lead to their incorrect functioning. However, 
the total subordination of the televisions and of a large number of newspapers 
is a long-time issue in Romania, where the opposition barely had a chance to 
appear on TV, and then most often among other tendentious comments. 
Months before the elections, the main civic organizations formed The 
Coalition for a Clean Parliament (CPC), which aimed to bring to the uninformed 
voters' knowledge certified facts about the moral profile of the parliamentary 
candidates. Hundreds of thousands of fake papers, allegedly signed by the CPC 
members were launches in the last two weeks of the electoral campaign and 
rumors had it they had been printed in typographies run by PSD members. The 
fake papers cut out all the original information about the numerous PSD members 
and their electoral allies whose moral profile was considered not very well 
suited to a candidate's, instead had lots of unverified information about the 
opposition members. Ms Monica Macovei, a representative of APADOR-CH 
(Association for the Defense of Human Rights in Romania - the Helsinki 
Committee) said the General Prosecutor's Office was informed through a 
complaint, yet no response has been received so far. In Ms Monica Macovei's 
opinion, this is a sign of the 

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2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie protest-ro


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citit cu aceste programe. Prin urmare, cind trimiteti mesaje pe lista,
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2. Clientii de posta electronica moderni stiu sa urmareasca firele de
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stergeti din acel mesaj partile care nu sint relevante, pastrind doar
esenta problemei care este discutata. Practic, pastrati doar
afirmatiile la care raspundeti prin mesajul pe care tocmai il scrieti.
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[protest-ro] Fragmente noi disponibile la www.RomanulRomanescPervers.ro

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Kiki H2O

 
Dragul meu / Draga mea,
 
 
Am marea placere sa te anunt ca site-ul Romanului romanesc pervers
(RRP)te asteapta de astazi cu un noua grafica, propusa de Dsign.
 
Tot de astazi ai la dispozitie un fragment nou din RRP, la
http://RomanulRomanescPervers.ro
 
Toate fragmentele care au fost oferite gratuit pana acum, inclusiv
ultimul, sunt download-abile in format pdf urmand link-ul
http://RomanulRomanescPervers.ro/rrp.pdf
 
In cazul in care cartea ti-a starnit interesul, o poti comanda prin
email, cu livrare prin posta (20% sale). In librarii va aparea la
mijlocul lui februarie (probleme datorate tipografiei, din cauza de
alegeri ...), dar in Bucuresti lansarea se va produce in ianuarie, in
Cafeneaua Actorilor, club Twice, Laptarie, club A, si The Harp Irish Pub
(locuri unde va fi pusa si in vanzare).
 
 
O iarna pe gustul tau !
 
Kiki H2O
 
P.S. Evident, astept cu interes, ca si pana acum, orice comentariu. Fie
pe forum la http://Forum.RomanulRomanescPervers.ro , fie la
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romanulromanescpervers/
 


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[protest-ro] Dead Link

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Locnav Livoc


Am cautat putin si am gasit pina la urma ca site'u www.anti-armata.as.
ro s'a mutat pe http://www.antiarmata.3x.ro/
Se pare ca inca se lucreaza la site.

Imi cer scuze dar am un stil foarte telegrafic de a transmite mesaje.





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[protest-ro] Fw: [Romania-News] Fw: incredibil!!

2004-12-05 Fir de Conversatie Codruta

From: Mihaela MIHET [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Numai in Romania este posibil!! Sa vezi si sa nu crezi.

 From: Todica A. Marius
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: FW: de-ale noastre

A fost odata ca niciodata, intr-o tzara aflata exact sub picioarele noastre,
shi nu peste noua mari shi noua tzari, o televiziune. Avand pretentzii de
lider,respectiva televiziune a avut mareatza idee ca de ziua natzionala,
facandu-se cumul de evenimente cu ziua personala, sa cheme nishte menestrei
shi sa se amuze cu veselie, dans, antren.

 Zis shi facut. A venit trupa Spin, au ieshit curtenii cei mai importantzi
pe treptele palatului shi au pus-o impreuna cu muzicantzii de o cantare in
toata legea, menita a scula in ce a mai ramas din sufletu telespectatorului
un tremur de patriotism shi fidelitate mediatica.
Shi ce putea fi mai potrivit pentru asemenea ocazie decat imnul natzional ?
Shi cum imnul are prea multe strofe pentru a putea fi tzinut minte cu
lejeritate de catre tot poporu, a fost ales shi un dirijor in persuana
informatorului principal al curtzii, respectiv Andreea Esca, care, cu o
hartie in mana, dicta corului ce sa cante.
Ajunshi la strofa a doua, duduia cu salariu incert a intonat urmatuarele:

 Acum ori niciodata sa aratam in lume
Ca-n aste maini mai curge un sange de roman
Si ca-n a noastre piepturi pastram cu fala-un nume
Si ca-n aste maini mai curge un sange de roman.

 Toata lumea a continuat in acelashi fel, cu exceptzia unuia dintre
menestrei care, invatzand lectzia de acasa, a intrebat timid:

Dom'ne, nu va suparatzi, da' nu cumva ultimu vers din strofa a doa era
Triumfator in lupte, un nume de Traian. ?

 Raspunsul a venit neashteptat de stupid, din partea aceleiashi Andreea
Esca:

Ba da, dar fiind in campanie electorala se interzice orice referire la unul
dintre candidatzi.

Partea nasoala este ca istoria de mai sus nu ie fictziune. Ie cruda
realitate, iar asta s-a vazut pe 1 decembrie la protv.



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