Enhancement: can we get a copy of the documentation?

2009-04-10 Thread Alexander Pensky

Really I wanted to put this into Issues as an enhancement request, but
I couldn't figure out how...

Would it be possible to take all the Developer Guide pages and put
them in a tarball on the Downloads page?  Or include them into the
source tarball?

Currently, one can only read the docs at google.com; having them on
one's hard drive would come in handy when the development box has
little or no internet access.

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Re: Protocol Buffers Vs. XML Fast Infoset

2009-04-10 Thread Kenton Varda
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Alexander Philippou 
alexander.philip...@gmail.com wrote:

 The redundancy elimination mechanism of FI is actually a vocabulary
 and it works differently than compression algorithms do.


I think we define compression differently.  In my book, redundancy
elimination and compression are pretty much synonymous.  It sounds like
you are using a more specific definition (LZW?).


 FI documents
 are good candidates for compression irrespective of whether a
 vocabulary is used or not. We've done a few tests with medium/large-
 sized documents and protobuf wasn't more compact than FI.


Sure, but FI wasn't smaller than protobuf either, was it?  I would expect
that after applying some sort of LZW compression to *both* documents, they'd
come out roughly the same size.  (FI would probably have some overhead for
self-description but for large documents that wouldn't matter.)

Without the LZW applied, perhaps FI is smaller due to its redundancy
elimination -- I still don't know enough about FI to really understand how
it works.  However, I suspect protobuf will be much faster to parse and
encode, by virtue of being simpler.

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Re: Enhancement: can we get a copy of the documentation?

2009-04-10 Thread Kenton Varda
Using wget (a unix command -- available on Windows using Cygwin), you can
download the whole site like so:

wget -r -l inf -np -p -k
http://code.google.com/apis/protocolbuffers/index.html
Options:
-r = Recursive
-l inf = Infinite recursion depth
-np = Don't follow links to parent directories
-p = Fetch page prerequisites (images, stylesheets, etc., even if they are
in parent directories)
-k = Rewrite links (so that they work when viewing the documents locally)

I ran this command, zipped up the contents, and placed them here:

http://groups.google.com/group/protobuf/web/Protocol%20Buffers%20Documentation.zip

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Alexander Pensky apen...@gmail.com wrote:


 Really I wanted to put this into Issues as an enhancement request, but
 I couldn't figure out how...

 Would it be possible to take all the Developer Guide pages and put
 them in a tarball on the Downloads page?  Or include them into the
 source tarball?

 Currently, one can only read the docs at google.com; having them on
 one's hard drive would come in handy when the development box has
 little or no internet access.

 


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Re: Enhancement: can we get a copy of the documentation?

2009-04-10 Thread Alexander Pensky

Thanks much!  I thought about wget, but I didn't want to scrape your
website without asking first, it seemed kind of antisocial. :)


On Apr 10, 3:51 pm, Kenton Varda ken...@google.com wrote:
 Using wget (a unix command -- available on Windows using Cygwin), you can
 download the whole site like so:

 wget -r -l inf -np -p -khttp://code.google.com/apis/protocolbuffers/index.html
 Options:
 -r = Recursive
 -l inf = Infinite recursion depth
 -np = Don't follow links to parent directories
 -p = Fetch page prerequisites (images, stylesheets, etc., even if they are
 in parent directories)
 -k = Rewrite links (so that they work when viewing the documents locally)

 I ran this command, zipped up the contents, and placed them here:

 http://groups.google.com/group/protobuf/web/Protocol%20Buffers%20Docu...

 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Alexander Pensky apen...@gmail.com wrote:

  Really I wanted to put this into Issues as an enhancement request, but
  I couldn't figure out how...

  Would it be possible to take all the Developer Guide pages and put
  them in a tarball on the Downloads page?  Or include them into the
  source tarball?

  Currently, one can only read the docs at google.com; having them on
  one's hard drive would come in handy when the development box has
  little or no internet access.
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