[Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

2009-06-24 Thread Alex McAuley

There is also a Form.observer 
http://www.prototypejs.org/api/timedObserver/form-observer
I used to use this but implemented my own version of it with a cache and 
some hashing, it didnt take long to write and works perfectly

HTH
Alex


- Original Message - 
From: Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com
To: Prototype  script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:19 PM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change



Thanks, for your response. I'm not 100% sure if I understand correctly
what you mean. If I get some data and generate a hash and write this
to the JSON header and retrieve this when calling onSuccess, how will
I still have the previous hash? From where will I get this?  Won't the
updated data cause the hash to be overwritten in the JSON header? Or
do I have to send two hashes always and compare them?

On 23 Jun., 22:57, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com





  Hi,

  I was wondering if Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater can detect if content has
  changed since the last update and if so trigger an event.

  So for example I have a scoreboard which fetches data every 5 seconds
  and displays this. I would be cool if there could be some kind of
  notification if content had changed. I know that the new content is
  stores in responseText but how can I compare it to the previous
  content...

  Thanks,
  Aman

 Personally, I would do this server side.
 Assuming you get the data in some sort of structure before either rending
 some HTML and sending it or just sending it JSON'd, then you should be 
 able
 to build a hash of the data.

 See [1] for info on Hash Functions.

 So. If you sent the hash value in a X-JSON header along with an 
 onSuccess()
 callback, you can extract the hash from the second param to the onSuccess
 and compare this with the previously retrieved hash to indicate you've got
 changed data. See [2] for details about PeriodicalUpdater update
 notification and [3] for the parameters to common callbacks.

 Regards,

 Richard.

 [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function
 [2]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater
 http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater[3]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options
 http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: php in files

2009-06-24 Thread Robaj

Ok, let me put my idea to you and see if there is a way without
reloading the whole page -

I use prototype.js and project.js. project.js is just my entensions
for each project, which I have narrowed down to two functions,  -

function myRequest( text ) {
new Ajax.Request('requests.php',
{
method: 'post',
postBody: text,
onComplete: myResponse
});

}
function myResponse(req) {
$(targetdiv).innerHTML= req.responseText;
}
Where text is supplied from the controls, such as 'page=home'.
request.php is the only php file called directly, it decides which
response is wanted and returns the text for a control or entire body
for div id='mainbody'/div

All of my pages and controls within them are created in php from the
database. This is very easy to maintain and update, so a nice base for
all kinds of applications

All works well if I only respond with html including the ajax side
that recalls requests.php, the only problem is that I intended some of
the pages to be applications, so I want them to have php and can not
see a way to pass it through the preprocessor.

My request.php at the server side is like this -


$Home=$button=$update=$testButton=$menuItem=;
extract($_POST,EXTR_IF_EXISTS);

if($menuItem != )
{
$retstr = ;

$dbconn = getdbconnection();

//find page associated with this menu item
$query = 'SELECT body FROM menu WHERE name=\''.$menuItem.'\'';
$result = pg_query($dbconn,$query) or die('Query failed: ' .
pg_last_error());
$row = pg_fetch_row($result);
//read in the file
if(file_exists($row[0]))
{
$handle = fopen($row[0],r);
$retstr = fread($handle,filesize($row[0]));
fclose($handle);
//failed attempt to use include instead
//$retstr = ?php include .$row[0].; ?;
}
else
{
$retstr = File not created yet;
}
pg_close($dbconn);
echo $retstr;
}

In the end this would leave me with only one main page index.php and
all other pages called up via ajax and created or loaded via php.

I have the feeling now that I have to update the whole page, not a
terrible tragedy, but I just have the feeling that I can somehow put
my fread() file through the php preprocessor.

On Jun 23, 3:09 pm, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2009/6/23 Robaj robrass...@gmail.com:





  I know this isn't strictly speaking a Prototype issue, but this is the
  only group I am in and a few topics do skirt around the edges of your
  main topic.

  If I have a file -
  home.php
  ?php
  echo h1A very interesting home page/h1;
  ?

  Then the file is returned to go into div id=mainbody/div with a
  plain fread() into a variable which is 'echo'd back to the client.

  'include'ing this file is fine, but then it passes through php at the
  same time as everything else.

  But any such file loaded as the action of an Ajax call is not fine. It
  doesn't get passed via php, or at least I don't think it does -
  because in 'mainbody' I get part of it such as

  Interesting; ?

  Confusing because if it were being passed through php I would expect
  'Interesting'. but if it were not, then I would expect the whole file
  in plain text.

  I knew when I did this with fread I was probably heading for trouble,
  but which is happening,
    partial php parseing,
    no php parseing or
    . ?

 If you use fread(), you are reading a file. Any file. Nothing magic.
 No processing.
 If you use include()/require()/include_once()/require_once(), then PHP
 will process that file if it contains a valid opening tag (?php).

 Uploading a file does NOT process the file. The file is only processed
 when it is requested.

 Can you provide any more information about what you are trying to do?

 Maybe using the PHP General list would also be a better place for this
 thread? (http://docs.php.net/mailing-lists.php)

 Regards,

 Richard.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

2009-06-24 Thread Aamchi

I thought of that too. But this only works in forms doesn't it? How do
I detect a changed within a div which is reloaded every few seconds?
Would you mind sending me an example?
Thanks,
Aman

On 24 Jun., 08:36, Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com
wrote:
 There is also a 
 Form.observerhttp://www.prototypejs.org/api/timedObserver/form-observer
 I used to use this but implemented my own version of it with a cache and
 some hashing, it didnt take long to write and works perfectly

 HTH
 Alex

 - Original Message -
 From: Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com
 To: Prototype  script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:19 PM
 Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

 Thanks, for your response. I'm not 100% sure if I understand correctly
 what you mean. If I get some data and generate a hash and write this
 to the JSON header and retrieve this when calling onSuccess, how will
 I still have the previous hash? From where will I get this?  Won't the
 updated data cause the hash to be overwritten in the JSON header? Or
 do I have to send two hashes always and compare them?

 On 23 Jun., 22:57, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
  2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com

   Hi,

   I was wondering if Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater can detect if content has
   changed since the last update and if so trigger an event.

   So for example I have a scoreboard which fetches data every 5 seconds
   and displays this. I would be cool if there could be some kind of
   notification if content had changed. I know that the new content is
   stores in responseText but how can I compare it to the previous
   content...

   Thanks,
   Aman

  Personally, I would do this server side.
  Assuming you get the data in some sort of structure before either rending
  some HTML and sending it or just sending it JSON'd, then you should be
  able
  to build a hash of the data.

  See [1] for info on Hash Functions.

  So. If you sent the hash value in a X-JSON header along with an
  onSuccess()
  callback, you can extract the hash from the second param to the onSuccess
  and compare this with the previously retrieved hash to indicate you've got
  changed data. See [2] for details about PeriodicalUpdater update
  notification and [3] for the parameters to common callbacks.

  Regards,

  Richard.

  [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function
  [2]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater
  http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater[3]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options
  http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

2009-06-24 Thread Joe

Hope this helps.

Ajax/Prototype/JSON PeriodicalUpdater: A working example – log update
on a background process

http://joekuan.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/ajaxprototypejson-periodicalupdater-a-working-example-log-update-on-a-background-process-part-12/

On Jun 23, 3:20 pm, Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I was wondering if Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater can detect if content has
 changed since the last update and if so trigger an event.

 So for example I have a scoreboard which fetches data every 5 seconds
 and displays this. I would be cool if there could be some kind of
 notification if content had changed. I know that the new content is
 stores in responseText but how can I compare it to the previous
 content...

 Thanks,
 Aman

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[Proto-Scripty] drag and drop tr from one table to another table.

2009-06-24 Thread Nivash Ramachandran



Hi all,

I am using scriptaculous drag functionality in table tr element. Now I
am facing the following issues. I can drag a row from one table to
another table but
1. While i drag a row, it gets invisible from view (not visible)
2. I applied border style for table td element but it is not working
after creating Draggable object.

System info:
1. scriptaculous.js v1.8.2
2. IE 7
3. Vista



by Nivash Ramachandran
India.

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[Proto-Scripty] escapeHTML incomplete?

2009-06-24 Thread Szymon Wilkołazki

Hi,


I just tried to put a json object inside an attribute an I bumped into 
an issue with String#escapeHTML().

The method does escape all the ampersands and the greater/less than 
signs, but it does nothing to the quots.

This make the method completely unusable for writing attributes (for 
innerHTML use).

Lets get through an example:

var eventMemo = {
aLabel: 'some String with quotes, \'apostrophes\'...',
otherLabel: 'another String with ampersands and tags'
};
//I want this object inside an html attribute, so lets
//make it JSON and escape it:
var attr = Object.toJSON(eventMemo).escapeHTML();

var link = 'a href=javascript:; class=fireCustomEvent'+
  ' data-eventMemo=' + attr + '  '+
  ' this link is supposed to fire custom event with memo '+
  ' read from data-eventMemo attribute '+
  '/a';

//lets see what this link looks like in Firebug:
console.log(link);

The output is:
a href=javascript:; class=fireCustomEvent
data-eventMemo={aLabel: some String with \quotes\,
'apostrophs'..., otherLabel: another String with amp;ampersands
and lt;tagsgt;} this link is supposed to fire custom event with 
memo read from data-eventMemo attribute/a

As you can see, the output is completely broken, as the  are not 
converted to quot; and ' to #39;

One have to append another replaces to properly escape the string:

var attr = 
Object.toJSON(eventMemo).escapeHTML().gsub(//,'quot;').gsub(/'/,'#39;');

The example in the documentation of escapeHTML also contains this 
error, but no warning about this behaviour.

IMHO:
1. A note should be added to the docs about this issue, and an example 
  how to properly escape string for use inside attributes;
2. A parameter could be added tho this method which would escape 
quotes automaticly.
Or a separate function could be introduced, eg. escapeHTMLquots() 
which would do the same unconditionally.
3. Current behaviour of method can not be changed, as this would 
create backward incompatibility.

I will place an issue about the docs, and I would like to hear your 
opinion about the method modifications.

Best Regards,
SWilk

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: php in files

2009-06-24 Thread Alex McAuley

I really think you are overthinking this!

If you want to echo out ?php echo('FOO'); ? for instance and have the 
preprocessor parse it... you need to (dangerously) eval it 

$variable=?php echo('pfoo/p'); ?;

eval($variable);

... pfoo/p is returned to the browser...

So (and i highly do not recommend this unless you truely trust the text in 
your database and the files it is opening) u must use php's eval();

Like so ... (using your variables)

eval($retstr);

then anything inside that variable or file will be evall'd as opcode and 
passed through the pre-processor and you will be left with html or whatever 
your php code spits out!

HTH

Alex





- Original Message - 
From: Robaj robrass...@gmail.com
To: Prototype  script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:44 AM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: php in files



Ok, let me put my idea to you and see if there is a way without
reloading the whole page -

I use prototype.js and project.js. project.js is just my entensions
for each project, which I have narrowed down to two functions,  -

function myRequest( text ) {
new Ajax.Request('requests.php',
{
method: 'post',
postBody: text,
onComplete: myResponse
});

}
function myResponse(req) {
$(targetdiv).innerHTML= req.responseText;
}
Where text is supplied from the controls, such as 'page=home'.
request.php is the only php file called directly, it decides which
response is wanted and returns the text for a control or entire body
for div id='mainbody'/div

All of my pages and controls within them are created in php from the
database. This is very easy to maintain and update, so a nice base for
all kinds of applications

All works well if I only respond with html including the ajax side
that recalls requests.php, the only problem is that I intended some of
the pages to be applications, so I want them to have php and can not
see a way to pass it through the preprocessor.

My request.php at the server side is like this -


$Home=$button=$update=$testButton=$menuItem=;
extract($_POST,EXTR_IF_EXISTS);

if($menuItem != )
{
$retstr = ;

$dbconn = getdbconnection();

//find page associated with this menu item
$query = 'SELECT body FROM menu WHERE name=\''.$menuItem.'\'';
$result = pg_query($dbconn,$query) or die('Query failed: ' .
pg_last_error());
$row = pg_fetch_row($result);
//read in the file
if(file_exists($row[0]))
{
$handle = fopen($row[0],r);
$retstr = fread($handle,filesize($row[0]));
fclose($handle);
//failed attempt to use include instead
//$retstr = ?php include .$row[0].; ?;
}
else
{
$retstr = File not created yet;
}
pg_close($dbconn);
echo $retstr;
}

In the end this would leave me with only one main page index.php and
all other pages called up via ajax and created or loaded via php.

I have the feeling now that I have to update the whole page, not a
terrible tragedy, but I just have the feeling that I can somehow put
my fread() file through the php preprocessor.

On Jun 23, 3:09 pm, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2009/6/23 Robaj robrass...@gmail.com:





  I know this isn't strictly speaking a Prototype issue, but this is the
  only group I am in and a few topics do skirt around the edges of your
  main topic.

  If I have a file -
  home.php
  ?php
  echo h1A very interesting home page/h1;
  ?

  Then the file is returned to go into div id=mainbody/div with a
  plain fread() into a variable which is 'echo'd back to the client.

  'include'ing this file is fine, but then it passes through php at the
  same time as everything else.

  But any such file loaded as the action of an Ajax call is not fine. It
  doesn't get passed via php, or at least I don't think it does -
  because in 'mainbody' I get part of it such as

  Interesting; ?

  Confusing because if it were being passed through php I would expect
  'Interesting'. but if it were not, then I would expect the whole file
  in plain text.

  I knew when I did this with fread I was probably heading for trouble,
  but which is happening,
  partial php parseing,
  no php parseing or
  . ?

 If you use fread(), you are reading a file. Any file. Nothing magic.
 No processing.
 If you use include()/require()/include_once()/require_once(), then PHP
 will process that file if it contains a valid opening tag (?php).

 Uploading a file does NOT process the file. The file is only processed
 when it is requested.

 Can you provide any more information about what you are trying to do?

 Maybe using the PHP General list would also be a better place for this
 thread? (http://docs.php.net/mailing-lists.php)

 Regards,

 Richard.

 --
 -
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 Zend Certified Engineer 

[Proto-Scripty] Re: autocomplete IE8 Shifts DOWN and TO THE RIGHT

2009-06-24 Thread T.J. Crowder

Hi,

There's a very recent thread for the to-the-right part, anyway:
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous/browse_thread/thread/8aac295a1affa481
--
T.J. Crowder
tj / crowder software / com
Independent Software Engineer, consulting services available


On Jun 24, 8:12 am, mrbinky3000 mrbinky3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone else run into difficulties with the autocomplete displaying
 results shifted down and to the right in ie8.  It used to just shift
 stuff to the right a little, which was WRONG but still acceptable.
 Now it pushes the results the width of the results container to the
 right and the height of the results container down the page.   It's
 WAY off.

 I can fix by forcing IE to use the 7.5 render engine by using this
 meta tag
 meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=7.5 

 This problem doesn't occur in any other browser that I've tested
 (Opera, FireFox, Chrome, older versions of IE).  It is an IE8 problem
 only.  Could use some help.
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

2009-06-24 Thread Alex McAuley

Well there is a couple of ways to do it

Personally if you dont have alot of these elements then 2 hidden elements 
within the div or page that hold (A) last Ajax.Request time and (B) last 
change time


then just listen to every input element inside the div for a change 
(untested)

$$('#mydiv input').invoke('observe','change',function(element) {

$('thehiddenelement').value=the_time_it_was_updated;

});
then you can check that on the request function and see if its needed to be 
sent or not ... (this is a hack!!)

Another way is to create a cache on page load of every input element on the 
page and add it to an array or a json object and store its id,parent,value 
in the array...

HTH

Alex





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To: Prototype  script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:40 AM
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change



I thought of that too. But this only works in forms doesn't it? How do
I detect a changed within a div which is reloaded every few seconds?
Would you mind sending me an example?
Thanks,
Aman

On 24 Jun., 08:36, Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com
wrote:
 There is also a 
 Form.observerhttp://www.prototypejs.org/api/timedObserver/form-observer
 I used to use this but implemented my own version of it with a cache and
 some hashing, it didnt take long to write and works perfectly

 HTH
 Alex

 - Original Message -
 From: Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com
 To: Prototype  script.aculo.us 
 prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:19 PM
 Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

 Thanks, for your response. I'm not 100% sure if I understand correctly
 what you mean. If I get some data and generate a hash and write this
 to the JSON header and retrieve this when calling onSuccess, how will
 I still have the previous hash? From where will I get this? Won't the
 updated data cause the hash to be overwritten in the JSON header? Or
 do I have to send two hashes always and compare them?

 On 23 Jun., 22:57, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
  2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com

   Hi,

   I was wondering if Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater can detect if content has
   changed since the last update and if so trigger an event.

   So for example I have a scoreboard which fetches data every 5 seconds
   and displays this. I would be cool if there could be some kind of
   notification if content had changed. I know that the new content is
   stores in responseText but how can I compare it to the previous
   content...

   Thanks,
   Aman

  Personally, I would do this server side.
  Assuming you get the data in some sort of structure before either 
  rending
  some HTML and sending it or just sending it JSON'd, then you should be
  able
  to build a hash of the data.

  See [1] for info on Hash Functions.

  So. If you sent the hash value in a X-JSON header along with an
  onSuccess()
  callback, you can extract the hash from the second param to the 
  onSuccess
  and compare this with the previously retrieved hash to indicate you've 
  got
  changed data. See [2] for details about PeriodicalUpdater update
  notification and [3] for the parameters to common callbacks.

  Regards,

  Richard.

  [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function
  [2]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater
  http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater[3]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options
  http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options

  --
  -
  Richard Quadling
  Zend Certified Engineer 
  :http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498r=213474731
  Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!



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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Long running requests disable other navigation links on the page

2009-06-24 Thread T.J. Crowder

Hi,

 I noticed I had debugging
 turned on and this made IIS single threaded.

Ah, you're using IIS.  Are you using session variables by any chance?
IIS may be serializing access to the session (e.g., queuing up any
further requests).  When you were testing simultaneous access from
other windows, did you make sure to be in the same session?

There there's app pools.  Your app pool may be configured to only
process a single request at a time.  IIS has lots of settings around
this stuff, many of which seem to me to have somewhat odd
defaults... :-)  (But actually, if you were doing things with the same
app in a different window successfully, it wouldn't be app pools,
never mind.)

 Based on your response, it sound like this is the way Ajax is supposed
 to work.

No, it's nothing to do with Ajax itself.  It's all down to whether the
browser or server is queuing up requests, or whether the thread is
tied up (JavaScript is single-threaded in this context).  So for
instance, you can tie up the thread by doing a synchronous request
(asynchronous: false in the options).  That brings that browser window
(at least) to a screeching halt until that request is completed, and
with some browsers, it's all windows, not just the one.  So...don't do
synchronous requests (not that you are, in your code example you're
using asynchronous: true -- which is the default, you can leave it out
if you like).

This issue of multiple concurrent requests has come up a couple of
times lately in the forum, including a thread in which Safari seemed
(to the poster) to be only allowing *one* request at a time to the
same server (his issue involved a file upload, though, which may be
special).  So I thought I'd create a contained test to double-check
things[1].  My test has two HTML files and a JSP (since I'm a Java
guy), but the JSP is trivial, you can easily replace it with a PHP or
VB.Net equivalent.  It just ensures that it takes a least a given
amount of time before returning (in a way that I would _never_ put on
a live system).

So if you load up longtest1.html and click the Long Request button,
it starts a five-second request.  Then while that's running, you can
use the Short Request button to try a short Ajax request running
concurrently with the long-running one, or use the link to move to
longtest2.html in the same window.

In my tests with the JSP running on Tomcat, all of the browsers I
tried behaved exactly as I would expect:  I could do the short request
while waiting for the long request to finish, and I could use a link
to go to another page without waiting for the long request to finish.
This is expected behavior because I never try to do more than two
requests to the server at the same time.  I tried FF3, IE6, IE7, IE8,
Safari 3 for Windows, Opera 9, and Chrome 2.

So what does that tell us?  I think it tells us that the problem
you're hitting is probably IIS configuration, but double-check you're
not doing synchronous requests or more than two simultaneous requests.

[1] http://pastie.org/522706

Hope this helps,
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On Jun 23, 9:45 pm, franklinhu frankli...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Jun 23, 10:26 am, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:



  Hi,

  Weird, the way things seem to run in themes in the group.  I just
  posted this to another thread[1] here:

  * * * *
  Most browsers, and most servers, place a limit on the number of
  simultaneous connections between the same endpoints, and typically
  that limit is two simultaneous connections.  I don't immediately have
  a reference for that, but if you search on simultaneous HTTP
  connection limit or concurrent HTTP connection limit or some such,
  you'll find info on it.  Note, again, that this is done at the browser
  level and also, sometimes, at the server level, and it varies by
  vendor (and configuration).
  * * * *

  [1]http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous/browse_thread/...

   I have been looking for some kind of cancel
   functionality to quit out of the long running requests when a user
   clicks on a navigation link, but I have been unable to find anything.
   Can someone help?

  The underlying XmlHttpRequest object may support the (relatively) new
  abort method (which I think is well-supported now).  I don't think
  Prototype has a documented means of aborting requests or of accessing
  the underlying XHR object, but it's a pretty open secret:  The XHR is
  stored as the transport property of the Ajax.Request object.  So on
  browsers that support it, you can abort requests:

  Creating the request and keeping a reference to it:

      req = new Ajax.Request(...);

  ...then using that reference to cancel if supported:

      try {
          req.transport.abort();
      } catch (e) {
          // Handle the failure, if any and if you want to
      }

  (Naturally if you want to you can test first to see if 'transport' is
  there and 

[Proto-Scripty] Port to ActionScript?

2009-06-24 Thread rlovtang

Is there an official port of prototype.js to ActionScript? DOM-stuff
makes no sense to port, but the basic JavaScript extensions like the
Array extensions and so forth would be really handy in ActionScript as
well.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: escapeHTML incomplete?

2009-06-24 Thread T.J. Crowder

Hi,

String#escapeHTML escapes HTML.  Double quotes, single quotes, and
newlines are all valid in HTML, so IMHO it's out of scope for
escapeHTML to escape them.  FWIW, I'd say the requirement you're
describing is specific enough to you that you should probably just add
it at your end.  For instance, if your JSON strings are delimited with
double quotes, there's no need to escape single quotes (and vice
versa).

 The example in the documentation of escapeHTML also contains this
 error, but no warning about this behaviour.

The example in the docs is:

'div class=articleThis is an article/div'.escapeHTML();
// - lt;div class=articlegt;This is an articlelt;/divgt;

I can see why you're thinking of that as an error, if you think of the
entire thing after the // - as being a JavaScript string literal,
but it isn't -- it's just documentation.  The quotes are to indicate
the value is a string, not that the whole thing is a string literal.
Other places will say things like // - Alerts 'Hi there' which is
also not valid JavaScript.  I wouldn't say it's clear, though, and
FWIW I agree we should change it -- probably to an example that
doesn't use double quotes.

If you create a lighthouse ticket, feel free to assign it to me.  I'd
probably add something like this to the docs:

Note that escapeHTML escapes HTML tags.  If you're going to include
the result in a string literal, you may also need to escape double
quotes, single quotes, and newlines.  String#gsub may be useful for
doing that.

FWIW,
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On Jun 24, 9:39 am, Szymon Wilkołazki wilkola...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I just tried to put a json object inside an attribute an I bumped into
 an issue with String#escapeHTML().

 The method does escape all the ampersands and the greater/less than
 signs, but it does nothing to the quots.

 This make the method completely unusable for writing attributes (for
 innerHTML use).

 Lets get through an example:

 var eventMemo = {
     aLabel: 'some String with quotes, \'apostrophes\'...',
     otherLabel: 'another String with ampersands and tags'};

 //I want this object inside an html attribute, so lets
 //make it JSON and escape it:
 var attr = Object.toJSON(eventMemo).escapeHTML();

 var link = 'a href=javascript:; class=fireCustomEvent'+
   ' data-eventMemo=' + attr + '  '+
   ' this link is supposed to fire custom event with memo '+
   ' read from data-eventMemo attribute '+
   '/a';

 //lets see what this link looks like in Firebug:
 console.log(link);

 The output is:
 a href=javascript:; class=fireCustomEvent
 data-eventMemo={aLabel: some String with \quotes\,
 'apostrophs'..., otherLabel: another String with amp;ampersands
 and lt;tagsgt;} this link is supposed to fire custom event with
 memo read from data-eventMemo attribute/a

 As you can see, the output is completely broken, as the  are not
 converted to quot; and ' to #39;

 One have to append another replaces to properly escape the string:

 var attr =
 Object.toJSON(eventMemo).escapeHTML().gsub(//,'quot;').gsub(/'/,'#39;');

 The example in the documentation of escapeHTML also contains this
 error, but no warning about this behaviour.

 IMHO:
 1. A note should be added to the docs about this issue, and an example
   how to properly escape string for use inside attributes;
 2. A parameter could be added tho this method which would escape
 quotes automaticly.
 Or a separate function could be introduced, eg. escapeHTMLquots()
 which would do the same unconditionally.
 3. Current behaviour of method can not be changed, as this would
 create backward incompatibility.

 I will place an issue about the docs, and I would like to hear your
 opinion about the method modifications.

 Best Regards,
 SWilk
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

2009-06-24 Thread Richard Quadling

2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com:

 Thanks, for your response. I'm not 100% sure if I understand correctly
 what you mean. If I get some data and generate a hash and write this
 to the JSON header and retrieve this when calling onSuccess, how will
 I still have the previous hash? From where will I get this?  Won't the
 updated data cause the hash to be overwritten in the JSON header? Or
 do I have to send two hashes always and compare them?

 On 23 Jun., 22:57, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com





  Hi,

  I was wondering if Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater can detect if content has
  changed since the last update and if so trigger an event.

  So for example I have a scoreboard which fetches data every 5 seconds
  and displays this. I would be cool if there could be some kind of
  notification if content had changed. I know that the new content is
  stores in responseText but how can I compare it to the previous
  content...

  Thanks,
  Aman

 Personally, I would do this server side.
 Assuming you get the data in some sort of structure before either rending
 some HTML and sending it or just sending it JSON'd, then you should be able
 to build a hash of the data.

 See [1] for info on Hash Functions.

 So. If you sent the hash value in a X-JSON header along with an onSuccess()
 callback, you can extract the hash from the second param to the onSuccess
 and compare this with the previously retrieved hash to indicate you've got
 changed data. See [2] for details about PeriodicalUpdater update
 notification and [3] for the parameters to common callbacks.

 Regards,

 Richard.

 [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function
 [2]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater
 http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater[3]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options
  http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options

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 Zend Certified Engineer :http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498r=213474731
 Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!
 


You add a

previousHash:null;

to your periodic updater and check that value against the one coming
in via the X-JSON header.

If it is different, then the data is different. If it is the same,
then the data is the same.

Either way, once evaluated, same the new hash.


Untested (sorry), but adapting the example at [1] ...

var o_Updater = new Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater
(
'lastLogin',
'/lastLogin.php',
{
method: 'get',
frequency : 3,
decay : 2,
lastHash  : null,
onSuccess : function(o_Transport, o_JSON)
{
// Do we have JSON?
if (!!o_JSON)
{
// Do we have a previous hash?
if (!!this.options.lastHash  
(this.options.lastHash != o_JSON.thisHash))
{
// Hashes are different. Maybe activate 
an effect to show the
highlighted data and slowly fade away over time.
}
// Update hash.
this.options.lastHash != o_JSON.thisHash;
}
}
}
);



The code on the server would be something like this (I'm using PHP).


?php
// Assume we are getting this data from a database.
$a_Data = array
(
'Name' = 'Richard Quadling',
'LastPost' = '2009-06-24 10:00:00',
);

// Build hash
$s_Hash = array('Hash' = md5(serialize($a_Data)));

// Generate output.
$s_Output = 
tbodytrtd{$a_Data['Name']}/tdtd{$a_Data['LastPost']}/td/tbody;

// X-JSON Header
header('X-JSON: ' . json_encode($s_Hash, JSON_FORCE_OBJECT));

// Output results.
echo $s_Output;
?


The PHP outputs (edited) ...

X-JSON: {Hash:a0c23e7f9651f2b65135932917b7f03a}
Content-type: text/html

tbodytrtdRichard Quadling/tdtd2009-06-24 10:00:00/td/tbody


So the X-JSON header is presented as o_JSON in onSuccess() and
o_JSON.Hash is 'a0c23e7f9651f2b65135932917b7f03a'

And the HTML would go to the container you defined in the PeriodicUpdater


Richard.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: php in files

2009-06-24 Thread Richard Quadling

2009/6/24 Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com:

 I really think you are overthinking this!

 If you want to echo out ?php echo('FOO'); ? for instance and have the
 preprocessor parse it... you need to (dangerously) eval it 

 $variable=?php echo('pfoo/p'); ?;

 eval($variable);

 ... pfoo/p is returned to the browser...

 So (and i highly do not recommend this unless you truely trust the text in
 your database and the files it is opening) u must use php's eval();

 Like so ... (using your variables)

 eval($retstr);

 then anything inside that variable or file will be evall'd as opcode and
 passed through the pre-processor and you will be left with html or whatever
 your php code spits out!

 HTH

 Alex





 - Original Message -
 From: Robaj robrass...@gmail.com
 To: Prototype  script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:44 AM
 Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: php in files



 Ok, let me put my idea to you and see if there is a way without
 reloading the whole page -

 I use prototype.js and project.js. project.js is just my entensions
 for each project, which I have narrowed down to two functions,  -

            function myRequest( text ) {
                new Ajax.Request('requests.php',
                {
                    method: 'post',
                    postBody: text,
                    onComplete: myResponse
                });

            }
            function myResponse(req) {
                $(targetdiv).innerHTML= req.responseText;
            }
 Where text is supplied from the controls, such as 'page=home'.
 request.php is the only php file called directly, it decides which
 response is wanted and returns the text for a control or entire body
 for div id='mainbody'/div

 All of my pages and controls within them are created in php from the
 database. This is very easy to maintain and update, so a nice base for
 all kinds of applications

 All works well if I only respond with html including the ajax side
 that recalls requests.php, the only problem is that I intended some of
 the pages to be applications, so I want them to have php and can not
 see a way to pass it through the preprocessor.

 My request.php at the server side is like this -


 $Home=$button=$update=$testButton=$menuItem=;
 extract($_POST,EXTR_IF_EXISTS);

 if($menuItem != )
 {
    $retstr = ;

    $dbconn = getdbconnection();

 //find page associated with this menu item
    $query = 'SELECT body FROM menu WHERE name=\''.$menuItem.'\'';
    $result = pg_query($dbconn,$query) or die('Query failed: ' .
 pg_last_error());
    $row = pg_fetch_row($result);
    //read in the file
    if(file_exists($row[0]))
    {
        $handle = fopen($row[0],r);
        $retstr = fread($handle,filesize($row[0]));
        fclose($handle);
 //failed attempt to use include instead
        //$retstr = ?php include .$row[0].; ?;
    }
    else
    {
        $retstr = File not created yet;
    }
    pg_close($dbconn);
    echo $retstr;
 }

 In the end this would leave me with only one main page index.php and
 all other pages called up via ajax and created or loaded via php.

 I have the feeling now that I have to update the whole page, not a
 terrible tragedy, but I just have the feeling that I can somehow put
 my fread() file through the php preprocessor.

 On Jun 23, 3:09 pm, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2009/6/23 Robaj robrass...@gmail.com:





  I know this isn't strictly speaking a Prototype issue, but this is the
  only group I am in and a few topics do skirt around the edges of your
  main topic.

  If I have a file -
  home.php
  ?php
  echo h1A very interesting home page/h1;
  ?

  Then the file is returned to go into div id=mainbody/div with a
  plain fread() into a variable which is 'echo'd back to the client.

  'include'ing this file is fine, but then it passes through php at the
  same time as everything else.

  But any such file loaded as the action of an Ajax call is not fine. It
  doesn't get passed via php, or at least I don't think it does -
  because in 'mainbody' I get part of it such as

  Interesting; ?

  Confusing because if it were being passed through php I would expect
  'Interesting'. but if it were not, then I would expect the whole file
  in plain text.

  I knew when I did this with fread I was probably heading for trouble,
  but which is happening,
  partial php parseing,
  no php parseing or
  . ?

 If you use fread(), you are reading a file. Any file. Nothing magic.
 No processing.
 If you use include()/require()/include_once()/require_once(), then PHP
 will process that file if it contains a valid opening tag (?php).

 Uploading a file does NOT process the file. The file is only processed
 when it is requested.

 Can you provide any more information about what you are trying to do?

 Maybe using the PHP General list would also be a better place for this
 thread? (http://docs.php.net/mailing-lists.php)

 Regards,

 

[Proto-Scripty] Re: drag and drop tr from one table to another table.

2009-06-24 Thread david

Hi Nivash,

I was trying to reproduce your error.
Could you please post the code because I did not have the same error.

--
david

On 24 juin, 09:29, Nivash Ramachandran rniv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am using scriptaculous drag functionality in table tr element. Now I
 am facing the following issues. I can drag a row from one table to
 another table but
 1. While i drag a row, it gets invisible from view (not visible)
 2. I applied border style for table td element but it is not working
 after creating Draggable object.

 System info:
 1. scriptaculous.js v1.8.2
 2. IE 7
 3. Vista

 by Nivash Ramachandran
 India.
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Autocompleter shifts results to the right in IE8

2009-06-24 Thread BillyRayPreachersSon


After more debugging, I finally tracked down the problem, and it looks
like there's already a ticket raised with Prototype to fix this in
IE8:

https://prototype.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8886-prototype/tickets/618-getoffsetparent-returns-body-for-new-hidden-elements-in-ie8-final#ticket-618-9

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Drag Drop inside .net AJAX - Dispose of items?

2009-06-24 Thread david

Hi James,

var items = document.getElementsByClassName(bla);
for each item, SAVEDDRAGGABLE[i]=new Draggable(items[i].id... etc)

then to destroy them, just do for each SAVEDDRAGGABLE,
SAVEDDRAGGABLE.destroy().

So just save the scriptaculous object in creation, and use the method
destroy() of draggable to destroy them.

--
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 Hi All,

 I'm loving this drag drop library in my application, however i've got
 serious memory leaks because I don't know how to destroy the items.

 I'm using the .net ScriptManager.RegisterClientScriptBlock method to
 register my script, so that all items from the database can be
 Draggables.

 However, I can't find a way of using the destroy method on them?

 In my register block i'm loading all the Draggables into an array -
 e..g var items = document.getElementsByClassName(bla);

 Then for each item, new Draggable(items[i].id... etc)

 How can I unload/destory them on async postback?

 if I look at the variable items it references the divs, not the
 objects? How can I access the objects to destroy them?

 Thanks,

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Drag Drop inside .net AJAX - Dispose of items?

2009-06-24 Thread david

I just forgot, on the scriptaculous wiki, on exemples section, you can
have an exemple:
http://wiki.github.com/madrobby/scriptaculous/draggable

--
david

On 24 juin, 12:50, david david.brill...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi James,

 var items = document.getElementsByClassName(bla);
 for each item, SAVEDDRAGGABLE[i]=new Draggable(items[i].id... etc)

 then to destroy them, just do for each SAVEDDRAGGABLE,
 SAVEDDRAGGABLE.destroy().

 So just save the scriptaculous object in creation, and use the method
 destroy() of draggable to destroy them.

 --
 david

 On 23 juin, 18:10, Wyerarch wyera...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi All,

  I'm loving this drag drop library in my application, however i've got
  serious memory leaks because I don't know how to destroy the items.

  I'm using the .net ScriptManager.RegisterClientScriptBlock method to
  register my script, so that all items from the database can be
  Draggables.

  However, I can't find a way of using the destroy method on them?

  In my register block i'm loading all the Draggables into an array -
  e..g var items = document.getElementsByClassName(bla);

  Then for each item, new Draggable(items[i].id... etc)

  How can I unload/destory them on async postback?

  if I look at the variable items it references the divs, not the
  objects? How can I access the objects to destroy them?

  Thanks,

  James.
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Dragdrop with absolute position

2009-06-24 Thread david

Hi Fagnain,

Please post code, because I though it was possible.

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On 23 juin, 11:16, Fagnain drean.fab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried to create 2 sortables in a page with drag  drop from one to
 another. There is no problem when I make a test outside of my site.
 But when I include the code in the page I want it to be - into one of
 the 3 div I have with the CSS property position set to absolute - I
 can't do my drag and drop. I realized that this drag  drop works fine
 when I put a new div without setting the position and drag over.

 So my question is : Can we set dragdrop on elements within a div with
 an absolute position (and how can we do that of course) ?

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Port to ActionScript?

2009-06-24 Thread david

Hi rlovtang,

I've never ear somethink like that, but as ACTIONSCRIPT IS ECMASCRIPT,
isn't it easy to port prototype function to it ??
btw, it's just a guess, I did not use actionscript !

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 Is there an official port of prototype.js to ActionScript? DOM-stuff
 makes no sense to port, but the basic JavaScript extensions like the
 Array extensions and so forth would be really handy in ActionScript as
 well.
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[Proto-Scripty] on0 handlers

2009-06-24 Thread Doug Reeder
One handler to consider adding to your AJAX requests is on0.  This is  
called if the connection to the webserver fails, typically because the  
the server is overloaded or has gone down since the page was loaded.  
While these conditions are uncommon, otherwise a failed connection  
calls the onSuccess handler!   And if your webserver is overloaded or  
down, it's good to tell your users to wait a bit before trying again.

I've updated the example at 
http://proto-scripty.wikidot.com/prototype:how-to-bulletproof-ajax-requests


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[Proto-Scripty] Re: on0 handlers

2009-06-24 Thread Richard Quadling

2009/6/24 Doug Reeder reeder...@gmail.com:
 One handler to consider adding to your AJAX requests is on0.  This is called
 if the connection to the webserver fails, typically because the the server
 is overloaded or has gone down since the page was loaded. While these
 conditions are uncommon, otherwise a failed connection calls the onSuccess
 handler!   And if your webserver is overloaded or down, it's good to tell
 your users to wait a bit before trying again.
 I've updated the example
 at http://proto-scripty.wikidot.com/prototype:how-to-bulletproof-ajax-requests

 Doug Reeder
 reeder...@osu.edu
 http://reeder29.livejournal.com/
 https://twitter.com/reeder29





 


Oh. Nice. I have a set of generic responders which show messages for
all my AJAX calls. Adding on0 as I speak.




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[Proto-Scripty] Re: escapeHTML incomplete?

2009-06-24 Thread Szymon Wilkołazki

T.J. Crowder wrote:
 Hi,
 
 String#escapeHTML escapes HTML.  Double quotes, single quotes, and
 newlines are all valid in HTML, so IMHO it's out of scope for
 escapeHTML to escape them.  FWIW, I'd say the requirement you're
 describing is specific enough to you that you should probably just add
 it at your end.  For instance, if your JSON strings are delimited with
 double quotes, there's no need to escape single quotes (and vice
 versa).

I have already added proper gsubs to the resulting escaped string,
thanks for the tip.

I still cannot agree that this is specific to my project only.
I very often need to put some (unknown)string into elements attribute.
I used to do it by creating new Element() and using setAttribute(), 
which did not require escaping anything, but latest discusions about 
speed of innerHTML operation make me try this approach.
I still have to set attributes of the elements to different strings, 
and I cannot now if they contain quotes or not, so I need to escape 
them. I think than many people need to put strings inside element 
attributes.
The JSON in attribute is probably more specific to my project.

Anyway, I know nothing can be done to the actual method, I just think 
the docs should have an example what to do in that case.

  [...]
 If you create a lighthouse ticket, feel free to assign it to me.  I'd
 probably add something like this to the docs:
 
here it comes:
http://prototype.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8886-prototype/tickets/722-escapehtml-underdocumented-note-about-quotes-needed

Thank you for your time.
Best Regards,
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Autocompleter shifts results to the right in IE8

2009-06-24 Thread David Tarico
Thanks for tracking that down!

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:48 AM, BillyRayPreachersSon 
billyraypreachers...@gmail.com wrote:



 After more debugging, I finally tracked down the problem, and it looks
 like there's already a ticket raised with Prototype to fix this in
 IE8:


 https://prototype.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8886-prototype/tickets/618-getoffsetparent-returns-body-for-new-hidden-elements-in-ie8-final#ticket-618-9

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: drag and drop tr from one table to another table.

2009-06-24 Thread Rick Waldron
Can you post a link to an example?

Rick

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Nivash Ramachandran rniv...@gmail.comwrote:




 Hi all,

 I am using scriptaculous drag functionality in table tr element. Now I
 am facing the following issues. I can drag a row from one table to
 another table but
 1. While i drag a row, it gets invisible from view (not visible)
 2. I applied border style for table td element but it is not working
 after creating Draggable object.

 System info:
 1. scriptaculous.js v1.8.2
 2. IE 7
 3. Vista



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[Proto-Scripty] Re: drag and drop tr from one table to another table.

2009-06-24 Thread Rick Waldron
Whoops - i replied to your first message before updating the thread. Sorry
about that.

Rick

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can you post a link to an example?

 Rick


 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Nivash Ramachandran rniv...@gmail.comwrote:




 Hi all,

 I am using scriptaculous drag functionality in table tr element. Now I
 am facing the following issues. I can drag a row from one table to
 another table but
 1. While i drag a row, it gets invisible from view (not visible)
 2. I applied border style for table td element but it is not working
 after creating Draggable object.

 System info:
 1. scriptaculous.js v1.8.2
 2. IE 7
 3. Vista



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[Proto-Scripty] Re: drag and drop tr from one table to another table.

2009-06-24 Thread Nivash Ramachandran

It's okay Rick ..


On Jun 24, 9:59 pm, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whoops - i replied to your first message before updating the thread. Sorry
 about that.

 Rick

 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rick Waldron waldron.r...@gmail.comwrote:



  Can you post a link to an example?

  Rick

  On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Nivash Ramachandran 
  rniv...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hi all,

  I am using scriptaculous drag functionality in table tr element. Now I
  am facing the following issues. I can drag a row from one table to
  another table but
  1. While i drag a row, it gets invisible from view (not visible)
  2. I applied border style for table td element but it is not working
  after creating Draggable object.

  System info:
  1. scriptaculous.js v1.8.2
  2. IE 7
  3. Vista

  by Nivash Ramachandran
  India.
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Long running requests disable other navigation links on the page

2009-06-24 Thread franklinhu



On Jun 24, 2:52 am, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:
 Hi,

  I noticed I had debugging
  turned on and this made IIS single threaded.

 Ah, you're using IIS.  Are you using session variables by any chance?
 IIS may be serializing access to the session (e.g., queuing up any
 further requests).  When you were testing simultaneous access from
 other windows, did you make sure to be in the same session?

 There there's app pools.  Your app pool may be configured to only
 process a single request at a time.  IIS has lots of settings around
 this stuff, many of which seem to me to have somewhat odd
 defaults... :-)  (But actually, if you were doing things with the same
 app in a different window successfully, it wouldn't be app pools,
 never mind.)

  Based on your response, it sound like this is the way Ajax is supposed
  to work.

 No, it's nothing to do with Ajax itself.  It's all down to whether the
 browser or server is queuing up requests, or whether the thread is
 tied up (JavaScript is single-threaded in this context).  So for
 instance, you can tie up the thread by doing a synchronous request
 (asynchronous: false in the options).  That brings that browser window
 (at least) to a screeching halt until that request is completed, and
 with some browsers, it's all windows, not just the one.  So...don't do
 synchronous requests (not that you are, in your code example you're
 using asynchronous: true -- which is the default, you can leave it out
 if you like).

 This issue of multiple concurrent requests has come up a couple of
 times lately in the forum, including a thread in which Safari seemed
 (to the poster) to be only allowing *one* request at a time to the
 same server (his issue involved a file upload, though, which may be
 special).  So I thought I'd create a contained test to double-check
 things[1].  My test has two HTML files and a JSP (since I'm a Java
 guy), but the JSP is trivial, you can easily replace it with a PHP or
 VB.Net equivalent.  It just ensures that it takes a least a given
 amount of time before returning (in a way that I would _never_ put on
 a live system).

 So if you load up longtest1.html and click the Long Request button,
 it starts a five-second request.  Then while that's running, you can
 use the Short Request button to try a short Ajax request running
 concurrently with the long-running one, or use the link to move to
 longtest2.html in the same window.

 In my tests with the JSP running on Tomcat, all of the browsers I
 tried behaved exactly as I would expect:  I could do the short request
 while waiting for the long request to finish, and I could use a link
 to go to another page without waiting for the long request to finish.
 This is expected behavior because I never try to do more than two
 requests to the server at the same time.  I tried FF3, IE6, IE7, IE8,
 Safari 3 for Windows, Opera 9, and Chrome 2.

 So what does that tell us?  I think it tells us that the problem
 you're hitting is probably IIS configuration, but double-check you're
 not doing synchronous requests or more than two simultaneous requests.

 [1]http://pastie.org/522706

 Hope this helps,
 --
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 Independent Software Engineer, consulting services available



Thanks for creating that example. Using it, I was able to create a
similar application that runs under IIS using .asp pages. I created a
page delay.asp that took the place of delay.jsp which just delays 5
seconds:

Delay.asp
%@ LANGUAGE=VBSCRIPT %

%

Dim PauseTime, Start
PauseTime = 5
Start = Timer ' Set start time.
Do While Timer  Start + PauseTime
Loop

Response.write finished
%

I found that if you redirect to an html file, there is never a
problem. If you redirect to an .ASP page, it will block if you are
using session variables. If you turn them off, then the redirection is
allowed to happen immediately, so your suspicion about session
variables was correct.

Unfortunately, my application depends heavily on session variables so
turning them off is not an option at this point. Is there anyone else
out there who has used classic .ASP pages and prototype.js to create
AJAX pages? I tried changing the app pool worker threads = 2, but this
didn't seem to do anything. I am using IIS6.
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

2009-06-24 Thread Aamchi

Thanks Richard, I will try this out. Really appreciate your help!

On 24 Jun., 12:12, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com:





  Thanks, for your response. I'm not 100% sure if I understand correctly
  what you mean. If I get some data and generate a hash and write this
  to the JSON header and retrieve this when calling onSuccess, how will
  I still have the previous hash? From where will I get this?  Won't the
  updated data cause the hash to be overwritten in the JSON header? Or
  do I have to send two hashes always and compare them?

  On 23 Jun., 22:57, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
  2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com

   Hi,

   I was wondering if Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater can detect if content has
   changed since the last update and if so trigger an event.

   So for example I have a scoreboard which fetches data every 5 seconds
   and displays this. I would be cool if there could be some kind of
   notification if content had changed. I know that the new content is
   stores in responseText but how can I compare it to the previous
   content...

   Thanks,
   Aman

  Personally, I would do this server side.
  Assuming you get the data in some sort of structure before either rending
  some HTML and sending it or just sending it JSON'd, then you should be able
  to build a hash of the data.

  See [1] for info on Hash Functions.

  So. If you sent the hash value in a X-JSON header along with an onSuccess()
  callback, you can extract the hash from the second param to the onSuccess
  and compare this with the previously retrieved hash to indicate you've got
  changed data. See [2] for details about PeriodicalUpdater update
  notification and [3] for the parameters to common callbacks.

  Regards,

  Richard.

  [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function
  [2]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater
  http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater[3]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options
   http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options

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 You add a

 previousHash:null;

 to your periodic updater and check that value against the one coming
 in via the X-JSON header.

 If it is different, then the data is different. If it is the same,
 then the data is the same.

 Either way, once evaluated, same the new hash.

 Untested (sorry), but adapting the example at [1] ...

 var o_Updater = new Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater
         (
         'lastLogin',
         '/lastLogin.php',
                 {
                 method    : 'get',
                 frequency : 3,
                 decay     : 2,
                 lastHash  : null,
                 onSuccess : function(o_Transport, o_JSON)
                         {
                         // Do we have JSON?
                         if (!!o_JSON)
                                 {
                                 // Do we have a previous hash?
                                 if (!!this.options.lastHash  
 (this.options.lastHash != o_JSON.thisHash))
                                         {
                                         // Hashes are different. Maybe 
 activate an effect to show the
 highlighted data and slowly fade away over time.
                                         }
                                 // Update hash.
                                 this.options.lastHash != o_JSON.thisHash;
                                 }
                         }
                 }
         );

 The code on the server would be something like this (I'm using PHP).

 ?php
 // Assume we are getting this data from a database.
 $a_Data = array
         (
         'Name' = 'Richard Quadling',
         'LastPost' = '2009-06-24 10:00:00',
         );

 // Build hash
 $s_Hash = array('Hash' = md5(serialize($a_Data)));

 // Generate output.
 $s_Output = 
 tbodytrtd{$a_Data['Name']}/tdtd{$a_Data['LastPost']}/td/tbody;

 // X-JSON Header
 header('X-JSON: ' . json_encode($s_Hash, JSON_FORCE_OBJECT));

 // Output results.
 echo $s_Output;
 ?

 The PHP outputs (edited) ...

 X-JSON: {Hash:a0c23e7f9651f2b65135932917b7f03a}
 Content-type: text/html

 tbodytrtdRichard Quadling/tdtd2009-06-24 10:00:00/td/tbody

 So the X-JSON header is presented as o_JSON in onSuccess() and
 o_JSON.Hash is 'a0c23e7f9651f2b65135932917b7f03a'

 And the HTML would go to the container you defined in the PeriodicUpdater

 Richard.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Periodical Updater detect content change

2009-06-24 Thread Aamchi

Hi Richard,

Your example works perfectly :-)

Just a few minor things that I had to change to make it actually work
(not being fussy, just if someone else finds this useful as well and
wants to try it out):

-The this operator didn't work for me, I replaced it with o_Updater
- In the PHP the array key which stores the hash is 'Hash' and not
'thisHash', so replace thisHash with Hash in the js-code
- And when updating hash: o_Updater.options.lastHash = o_JSON.thisHash
(instead of o_Updater.options.lastHash != o_JSON.thisHash)

Thanks again.

Aman



On 24 Jun., 12:12, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com:





  Thanks, for your response. I'm not 100% sure if I understand correctly
  what you mean. If I get some data and generate a hash and write this
  to the JSON header and retrieve this when calling onSuccess, how will
  I still have the previous hash? From where will I get this?  Won't the
  updated data cause the hash to be overwritten in the JSON header? Or
  do I have to send two hashes always and compare them?

  On 23 Jun., 22:57, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
  2009/6/23 Aamchi aman.ra...@googlemail.com

   Hi,

   I was wondering if Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater can detect if content has
   changed since the last update and if so trigger an event.

   So for example I have a scoreboard which fetches data every 5 seconds
   and displays this. I would be cool if there could be some kind of
   notification if content had changed. I know that the new content is
   stores in responseText but how can I compare it to the previous
   content...

   Thanks,
   Aman

  Personally, I would do this server side.
  Assuming you get the data in some sort of structure before either rending
  some HTML and sending it or just sending it JSON'd, then you should be able
  to build a hash of the data.

  See [1] for info on Hash Functions.

  So. If you sent the hash value in a X-JSON header along with an onSuccess()
  callback, you can extract the hash from the second param to the onSuccess
  and compare this with the previously retrieved hash to indicate you've got
  changed data. See [2] for details about PeriodicalUpdater update
  notification and [3] for the parameters to common callbacks.

  Regards,

  Richard.

  [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function
  [2]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater
  http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/periodicalUpdater[3]http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options
   http://www.prototypejs.org/api/ajax/options

  --
  -
  Richard Quadling
  Zend Certified Engineer :http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498r=213474731
  Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!

 You add a

 previousHash:null;

 to your periodic updater and check that value against the one coming
 in via the X-JSON header.

 If it is different, then the data is different. If it is the same,
 then the data is the same.

 Either way, once evaluated, same the new hash.

 Untested (sorry), but adapting the example at [1] ...

 var o_Updater = new Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater
         (
         'lastLogin',
         '/lastLogin.php',
                 {
                 method    : 'get',
                 frequency : 3,
                 decay     : 2,
                 lastHash  : null,
                 onSuccess : function(o_Transport, o_JSON)
                         {
                         // Do we have JSON?
                         if (!!o_JSON)
                                 {
                                 // Do we have a previous hash?
                                 if (!!this.options.lastHash  
 (this.options.lastHash != o_JSON.thisHash))
                                         {
                                         // Hashes are different. Maybe 
 activate an effect to show the
 highlighted data and slowly fade away over time.
                                         }
                                 // Update hash.
                                 this.options.lastHash != o_JSON.thisHash;
                                 }
                         }
                 }
         );

 The code on the server would be something like this (I'm using PHP).

 ?php
 // Assume we are getting this data from a database.
 $a_Data = array
         (
         'Name' = 'Richard Quadling',
         'LastPost' = '2009-06-24 10:00:00',
         );

 // Build hash
 $s_Hash = array('Hash' = md5(serialize($a_Data)));

 // Generate output.
 $s_Output = 
 tbodytrtd{$a_Data['Name']}/tdtd{$a_Data['LastPost']}/td/tbody;

 // X-JSON Header
 header('X-JSON: ' . json_encode($s_Hash, JSON_FORCE_OBJECT));

 // Output results.
 echo $s_Output;
 ?

 The PHP outputs (edited) ...

 X-JSON: {Hash:a0c23e7f9651f2b65135932917b7f03a}
 Content-type: text/html

 tbodytrtdRichard Quadling/tdtd2009-06-24 10:00:00/td/tbody

 So the X-JSON header is presented as o_JSON in onSuccess() and
 o_JSON.Hash is 'a0c23e7f9651f2b65135932917b7f03a'

 And 

[Proto-Scripty] determine if dom:onload has happened yet?

2009-06-24 Thread jrochkind

So prototype 1.6 lets you register an event handler for the psuedo-
event dom:loaded. Good enough.

But if you register a callback for this event AFTER it's already
happened anywhere, it'll never get called (or possibly even something
stranger will happen, something strange was happening to me, but could
have been my code).

I have some re-useable code that sometimes might get called before
dom:loaded (in which case it wants to register a callback to do it's
thing on dom:onload), but sometimes might get called after dom:loaded
(in which case it would just go ahead and do it's thing).

Is there any way to tell if dom:loaded has happened yet?
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: determine if dom:onload has happened yet?

2009-06-24 Thread Tobie Langel

yes, using document.loaded.

Try something like:

document.loaded ? callback() : document.observe('dom:loaded',
callback);

Best,

Tobie

On Jun 24, 11:53 pm, jrochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote:
 So prototype 1.6 lets you register an event handler for the psuedo-
 event dom:loaded. Good enough.

 But if you register a callback for this event AFTER it's already
 happened anywhere, it'll never get called (or possibly even something
 stranger will happen, something strange was happening to me, but could
 have been my code).

 I have some re-useable code that sometimes might get called before
 dom:loaded (in which case it wants to register a callback to do it's
 thing on dom:onload), but sometimes might get called after dom:loaded
 (in which case it would just go ahead and do it's thing).

 Is there any way to tell if dom:loaded has happened yet?
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