[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
You guys are crazy...you send json_encode an object, not a string!! http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.json-encode.php -- http://positionabsolute.net On Jun 5, 6:16 am, Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com wrote: very strange .. works for me with anything all the time - Original Message - From: Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON Hi Alex, Still didn't work for me :( Just produced broken HTML output again. On Jun 4, 5:24 pm, Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com wrote: You need to do it a bit differently with php json_encode/decode ... i had this problem when i first started using it where you send post data (JSON) as p $post=str_replace('\', '', $_POST['p']); $json=$post; $d=json_decode($json,true); foreach($d as $key=$val) { .. do what you will with it after this unless you know the key names !! This should do the trick for you HTH ALex - Original Message - From: Matt i...@leedsguide.co.uk To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON Hi again, I've been running addslashes() on the input before running json_encode () and it still creates problems when I pass it through AJAX - breaks HTML tags etc. If I turn addslashes() off, any occurence of in the body text (eg quotes from speakers etc) breaks the code again. Does anyone have a foolproof method? Cheers Matt On Apr 24, 9:54 pm, Matt Foster mattfoste...@gmail.com wrote: What are you sending to PHP's json_encode? It is expecting a structure to serialize into a JSON syntax string. $struct = array(message = h1Hello World/h1Who says we can't have any kind of \quotes\ we want?); echo json_encode($struct); If you try to run json_encode on your already JSONified string, yeah its going to cause problems... -- http://positionabsolute.net On Apr 24, 12:26 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: @Ananth: Converting to Base64 would be massive overkill, surely. @OP: There's no reason you can't include strings containing HTML in JSON data. You just have to make sure your strings are valid string literals, like this: { message: pThis is HTML./p } There's nothing special other than making sure the HTML is correctly escaped -- e.g., if you're putting the JSON string in double quotes, naturally any double quotes in the HTML will need a backslash in front of them -- as, for that matter, will any backslashes! HTH, -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Apr 24, 5:05 pm, Ananth Raghuraman araghuram...@gmail.com wrote: JSON should not contain HTML for tactical/ease of programming purposes unless the HTML is there as part of a larger design, but there may or may not be implementation restrictions. If you are facing problems, can you try encoding the HTML string (Base64) and decoding back (using Javascript Base64 code ) before display on the browser? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm using PHP to output some JSON through AJAX to my page. It breaks whenever I use a backslash or quote mark. I've tried using php's json_encode function which doesn't seem to help, just breaks it further. I've also tried php's addslashes() to the output, again, same problem. Am I approaching this correctly, fundamentally? Is JSON supposed to contain HTML? Thanks, Matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
Sorry, here's a clearer listing: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.types.intro.php Walter On Jun 8, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote: That means it can be an Array, an Object, a String, an Integer, a Boolean, a Floating Point Number or NULL, according to this list of Types: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.types.resource.php --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
2009/6/8 Walter Lee Davis wa...@wdstudio.com: Sorry, here's a clearer listing: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.types.intro.php Walter On Jun 8, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Walter Lee Davis wrote: That means it can be an Array, an Object, a String, an Integer, a Boolean, a Floating Point Number or NULL, according to this list of Types: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.types.resource.php Sending PHP's json_encode anything other than an array is pointless. http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=38680 -- - Richard Quadling Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498r=213474731 Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
Hi Alex, Still didn't work for me :( Just produced broken HTML output again. On Jun 4, 5:24 pm, Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com wrote: You need to do it a bit differently with php json_encode/decode ... i had this problem when i first started using it where you send post data (JSON) as p $post=str_replace('\', '', $_POST['p']); $json=$post; $d=json_decode($json,true); foreach($d as $key=$val) { .. do what you will with it after this unless you know the key names !! This should do the trick for you HTH ALex - Original Message - From: Matt i...@leedsguide.co.uk To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON Hi again, I've been running addslashes() on the input before running json_encode () and it still creates problems when I pass it through AJAX - breaks HTML tags etc. If I turn addslashes() off, any occurence of in the body text (eg quotes from speakers etc) breaks the code again. Does anyone have a foolproof method? Cheers Matt On Apr 24, 9:54 pm, Matt Foster mattfoste...@gmail.com wrote: What are you sending to PHP's json_encode? It is expecting a structure to serialize into a JSON syntax string. $struct = array(message = h1Hello World/h1Who says we can't have any kind of \quotes\ we want?); echo json_encode($struct); If you try to run json_encode on your already JSONified string, yeah its going to cause problems... -- http://positionabsolute.net On Apr 24, 12:26 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: @Ananth: Converting to Base64 would be massive overkill, surely. @OP: There's no reason you can't include strings containing HTML in JSON data. You just have to make sure your strings are valid string literals, like this: { message: pThis is HTML./p } There's nothing special other than making sure the HTML is correctly escaped -- e.g., if you're putting the JSON string in double quotes, naturally any double quotes in the HTML will need a backslash in front of them -- as, for that matter, will any backslashes! HTH, -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Apr 24, 5:05 pm, Ananth Raghuraman araghuram...@gmail.com wrote: JSON should not contain HTML for tactical/ease of programming purposes unless the HTML is there as part of a larger design, but there may or may not be implementation restrictions. If you are facing problems, can you try encoding the HTML string (Base64) and decoding back (using Javascript Base64 code ) before display on the browser? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm using PHP to output some JSON through AJAX to my page. It breaks whenever I use a backslash or quote mark. I've tried using php's json_encode function which doesn't seem to help, just breaks it further. I've also tried php's addslashes() to the output, again, same problem. Am I approaching this correctly, fundamentally? Is JSON supposed to contain HTML? Thanks, Matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
Matt wrote: Hi Alex, Still didn't work for me :( Just produced broken HTML output again. If your html code is not broken on inside of php variable, then it won't break anything inside json_encode; [code] ?php $html = ' div id=someIdthis is correct html span id=\'singleQuote\' You have to escape single Quotes FOR PHP SAKE ONLY. If you get the HTML from file, or from database, then NO ESCAPING is needed. You need to escape quotes only for PHP parser, just as in any string. /span /div'; $json = json_encode($html); echo $json; ? [/code] //produces: \ndiv id=\someId\this is correct html\nspan id='singleQuote'\nYou have to escape single Quotes \n FOR PHP SAKE ONLY. \nIf you get the HTML from file, or from \ndatabase, then NO ESCAPING is needed. \n You need to escape quotes only for PHP \n parser, just as in any string.\n\/span\n\/div Json_encode() function does EVERYTHING that is needed to escape the javascript strings, you do not need to have any kind of add_slashes(). In fact, add_slashes will break things, as the slashes will be escaped by json_encode() funciton, and they will be visible in html. Take a look if you have not over-escaped the html. You might have magic-quotes enabled which automagicly adds slashes for you. This is evil option, as you have little control over what is happening. Hope this helps On Jun 4, 5:24 pm, Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com wrote: You need to do it a bit differently with php json_encode/decode ... i had this problem when i first started using it where you send post data (JSON) as p $post=str_replace('\', '', $_POST['p']); $json=$post; $d=json_decode($json,true); foreach($d as $key=$val) { .. do what you will with it after this unless you know the key names !! I totally do not understand what you are doing here. Could you explain a little bit? P.S. It is much easier to read posts if everyone would ansver below or inline of the previous post, not Top-Post. Just like T.J. Crowder did. -- Best Regards, SWilk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
very strange .. works for me with anything all the time - Original Message - From: Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON Hi Alex, Still didn't work for me :( Just produced broken HTML output again. On Jun 4, 5:24 pm, Alex McAuley webmas...@thecarmarketplace.com wrote: You need to do it a bit differently with php json_encode/decode ... i had this problem when i first started using it where you send post data (JSON) as p $post=str_replace('\', '', $_POST['p']); $json=$post; $d=json_decode($json,true); foreach($d as $key=$val) { .. do what you will with it after this unless you know the key names !! This should do the trick for you HTH ALex - Original Message - From: Matt i...@leedsguide.co.uk To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON Hi again, I've been running addslashes() on the input before running json_encode () and it still creates problems when I pass it through AJAX - breaks HTML tags etc. If I turn addslashes() off, any occurence of in the body text (eg quotes from speakers etc) breaks the code again. Does anyone have a foolproof method? Cheers Matt On Apr 24, 9:54 pm, Matt Foster mattfoste...@gmail.com wrote: What are you sending to PHP's json_encode? It is expecting a structure to serialize into a JSON syntax string. $struct = array(message = h1Hello World/h1Who says we can't have any kind of \quotes\ we want?); echo json_encode($struct); If you try to run json_encode on your already JSONified string, yeah its going to cause problems... -- http://positionabsolute.net On Apr 24, 12:26 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: @Ananth: Converting to Base64 would be massive overkill, surely. @OP: There's no reason you can't include strings containing HTML in JSON data. You just have to make sure your strings are valid string literals, like this: { message: pThis is HTML./p } There's nothing special other than making sure the HTML is correctly escaped -- e.g., if you're putting the JSON string in double quotes, naturally any double quotes in the HTML will need a backslash in front of them -- as, for that matter, will any backslashes! HTH, -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Apr 24, 5:05 pm, Ananth Raghuraman araghuram...@gmail.com wrote: JSON should not contain HTML for tactical/ease of programming purposes unless the HTML is there as part of a larger design, but there may or may not be implementation restrictions. If you are facing problems, can you try encoding the HTML string (Base64) and decoding back (using Javascript Base64 code ) before display on the browser? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm using PHP to output some JSON through AJAX to my page. It breaks whenever I use a backslash or quote mark. I've tried using php's json_encode function which doesn't seem to help, just breaks it further. I've also tried php's addslashes() to the output, again, same problem. Am I approaching this correctly, fundamentally? Is JSON supposed to contain HTML? Thanks, Matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
Hi again, I've been running addslashes() on the input before running json_encode () and it still creates problems when I pass it through AJAX - breaks HTML tags etc. If I turn addslashes() off, any occurence of in the body text (eg quotes from speakers etc) breaks the code again. Does anyone have a foolproof method? Cheers Matt On Apr 24, 9:54 pm, Matt Foster mattfoste...@gmail.com wrote: What are you sending to PHP's json_encode? It is expecting a structure to serialize into a JSON syntax string. $struct = array(message = h1Hello World/h1Who says we can't have any kind of \quotes\ we want?); echo json_encode($struct); If you try to run json_encode on your already JSONified string, yeah its going to cause problems... -- http://positionabsolute.net On Apr 24, 12:26 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: @Ananth: Converting to Base64 would be massive overkill, surely. @OP: There's no reason you can't include strings containing HTML in JSON data. You just have to make sure your strings are valid string literals, like this: { message: pThis is HTML./p } There's nothing special other than making sure the HTML is correctly escaped -- e.g., if you're putting the JSON string in double quotes, naturally any double quotes in the HTML will need a backslash in front of them -- as, for that matter, will any backslashes! HTH, -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Apr 24, 5:05 pm, Ananth Raghuraman araghuram...@gmail.com wrote: JSON should not contain HTML for tactical/ease of programming purposes unless the HTML is there as part of a larger design, but there may or may not be implementation restrictions. If you are facing problems, can you try encoding the HTML string (Base64) and decoding back (using Javascript Base64 code ) before display on the browser? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm using PHP to output some JSON through AJAX to my page. It breaks whenever I use a backslash or quote mark. I've tried using php's json_encode function which doesn't seem to help, just breaks it further. I've also tried php's addslashes() to the output, again, same problem. Am I approaching this correctly, fundamentally? Is JSON supposed to contain HTML? Thanks, Matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
You need to do it a bit differently with php json_encode/decode ... i had this problem when i first started using it where you send post data (JSON) as p $post=str_replace('\', '', $_POST['p']); $json=$post; $d=json_decode($json,true); foreach($d as $key=$val) { .. do what you will with it after this unless you know the key names !! This should do the trick for you HTH ALex - Original Message - From: Matt i...@leedsguide.co.uk To: Prototype script.aculo.us prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON Hi again, I've been running addslashes() on the input before running json_encode () and it still creates problems when I pass it through AJAX - breaks HTML tags etc. If I turn addslashes() off, any occurence of in the body text (eg quotes from speakers etc) breaks the code again. Does anyone have a foolproof method? Cheers Matt On Apr 24, 9:54 pm, Matt Foster mattfoste...@gmail.com wrote: What are you sending to PHP's json_encode? It is expecting a structure to serialize into a JSON syntax string. $struct = array(message = h1Hello World/h1Who says we can't have any kind of \quotes\ we want?); echo json_encode($struct); If you try to run json_encode on your already JSONified string, yeah its going to cause problems... -- http://positionabsolute.net On Apr 24, 12:26 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: @Ananth: Converting to Base64 would be massive overkill, surely. @OP: There's no reason you can't include strings containing HTML in JSON data. You just have to make sure your strings are valid string literals, like this: { message: pThis is HTML./p } There's nothing special other than making sure the HTML is correctly escaped -- e.g., if you're putting the JSON string in double quotes, naturally any double quotes in the HTML will need a backslash in front of them -- as, for that matter, will any backslashes! HTH, -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Apr 24, 5:05 pm, Ananth Raghuraman araghuram...@gmail.com wrote: JSON should not contain HTML for tactical/ease of programming purposes unless the HTML is there as part of a larger design, but there may or may not be implementation restrictions. If you are facing problems, can you try encoding the HTML string (Base64) and decoding back (using Javascript Base64 code ) before display on the browser? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm using PHP to output some JSON through AJAX to my page. It breaks whenever I use a backslash or quote mark. I've tried using php's json_encode function which doesn't seem to help, just breaks it further. I've also tried php's addslashes() to the output, again, same problem. Am I approaching this correctly, fundamentally? Is JSON supposed to contain HTML? Thanks, Matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
@Ananth: Converting to Base64 would be massive overkill, surely. @OP: There's no reason you can't include strings containing HTML in JSON data. You just have to make sure your strings are valid string literals, like this: { message: pThis is HTML./p } There's nothing special other than making sure the HTML is correctly escaped -- e.g., if you're putting the JSON string in double quotes, naturally any double quotes in the HTML will need a backslash in front of them -- as, for that matter, will any backslashes! HTH, -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Apr 24, 5:05 pm, Ananth Raghuraman araghuram...@gmail.com wrote: JSON should not contain HTML for tactical/ease of programming purposes unless the HTML is there as part of a larger design, but there may or may not be implementation restrictions. If you are facing problems, can you try encoding the HTML string (Base64) and decoding back (using Javascript Base64 code ) before display on the browser? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm using PHP to output some JSON through AJAX to my page. It breaks whenever I use a backslash or quote mark. I've tried using php's json_encode function which doesn't seem to help, just breaks it further. I've also tried php's addslashes() to the output, again, same problem. Am I approaching this correctly, fundamentally? Is JSON supposed to contain HTML? Thanks, Matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
JSON should not contain HTML for tactical/ease of programming purposes unless the HTML is there as part of a larger design, but there may or may not be implementation restrictions. If you are facing problems, can you try encoding the HTML string (Base64) and decoding back (using Javascript Base64 code ) before display on the browser? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm using PHP to output some JSON through AJAX to my page. It breaks whenever I use a backslash or quote mark. I've tried using php's json_encode function which doesn't seem to help, just breaks it further. I've also tried php's addslashes() to the output, again, same problem. Am I approaching this correctly, fundamentally? Is JSON supposed to contain HTML? Thanks, Matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: HTML breaks JSON
What are you sending to PHP's json_encode? It is expecting a structure to serialize into a JSON syntax string. $struct = array(message = h1Hello World/h1Who says we can't have any kind of \quotes\ we want?); echo json_encode($struct); If you try to run json_encode on your already JSONified string, yeah its going to cause problems... -- http://positionabsolute.net On Apr 24, 12:26 pm, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: @Ananth: Converting to Base64 would be massive overkill, surely. @OP: There's no reason you can't include strings containing HTML in JSON data. You just have to make sure your strings are valid string literals, like this: { message: pThis is HTML./p } There's nothing special other than making sure the HTML is correctly escaped -- e.g., if you're putting the JSON string in double quotes, naturally any double quotes in the HTML will need a backslash in front of them -- as, for that matter, will any backslashes! HTH, -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Apr 24, 5:05 pm, Ananth Raghuraman araghuram...@gmail.com wrote: JSON should not contain HTML for tactical/ease of programming purposes unless the HTML is there as part of a larger design, but there may or may not be implementation restrictions. If you are facing problems, can you try encoding the HTML string (Base64) and decoding back (using Javascript Base64 code ) before display on the browser? On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Matt guitarroman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm using PHP to output some JSON through AJAX to my page. It breaks whenever I use a backslash or quote mark. I've tried using php's json_encode function which doesn't seem to help, just breaks it further. I've also tried php's addslashes() to the output, again, same problem. Am I approaching this correctly, fundamentally? Is JSON supposed to contain HTML? Thanks, Matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---