Re: Editing questions

2014-05-02 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Thanks so much sir slau for your valyable info. sure I will follow
them and tell you the results.  or I will send a track to listen?
concerning scrubbing! I hope to buy something used but in perfect
condition that can do that. but the control 1 to 9 will do the trick?


On 5/1/14, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ramy,

 Track selection:
 Make sure you have Edit Follows Track Selection checked under the Options
 menu.
 To move the insertion point down to another track, thus selecting the next
 track,  use Control-; (semicolon).
 To move the insertion to the previous track, use Control-p.
 You don't need to de-select tracks if only one track is selected.
 If you've created multiple tracks at once and they're all selected, you can
 retract the selection by passing through a keystroke. To pass a keystroke,
 press Control-Option-tab. Then press Control-Option-Shift-; (semicolon).
 This will de-select the last track. From there, you can use
 Control-Option-semicolon and control-Option-p to move the insertion to other
 tracks.

 Nudging regions is done with the plus and minus keys on the numeric keypad.
 Set the nudge value from the Nudge Controls pop-up button in the Grid/Nudge
 cluster in the edit window. To move a region left or earlier, use the minus
 key. To move it right or later, use the plus key. Regions must be selected
 in order for them to be nudged. If no region is selected, you'll only be
 moving the insertion point by the nudge value. There's a lot of information
 in the Pro Tools Reference Guide on editing, in fact, several chapters. I
 encourage you to read.

 You can't scrub without a scrub wheel. A sighted user can select the
 scrubber tool but a blind user would be shooting in the dark and it's
 impractical to try scrubbing with that tool. If you don't have a scrub
 wheel, you can use the shuttle feature. Control-1 through 9 on the numeric
 keypad plays back at different speeds where 5 is normal speed. Once engaged,
 minus and plus toggle the playback backward and forward. Once you're in the
 general vicinity of where you wish to be, press the space bar to stop. Now
 use the plus/minus key to nudge the insertion point by the nudge value. To
 change the nudge value on the fly, use Command-Option-plus/minus. The
 default values from lowest to highest are 1 millisecond, 10 milliseconds,
 100 milliseconds, 500 milliseconds and 1 second. If you're in bars/beats,
 those values are different but follow the same principle.

 Slau

 On May 1, 2014, at 4:47 PM, ramy moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all:

 With pro tools, I can, record, record another track, save a file, import
 wave, incert new tracks, solo, mute.

 But I still need to now:
 How to deselect tracks, how to nuddge via keyboard not with surface
 because I don't have jug wheel, how to scrubb.
 The most important thing for me is editing.
 So if you please, I need some answers to my questions.
 Thanks


 Ramy moustafa saber
 Musicc instructor at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Slau Halatyn
Chris,

As you said, in bars and beats, it represents bars and beats so, following that 
logic, in minutes and seconds, it represents minutes and seconds. Figure out 
how much time you need in whichever format your session is in and go for it.

Slau

On May 2, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Shruggs,
 
 That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values represent? 
 In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour minute seconds, what is 
 it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 
 well, how long do you need to get ready to play?
 
 If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
 obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.
 At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
 Slau,
 
 So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate if I'm 
 doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
 To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough pre 
 roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on headphones 
 and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 8? 10? 
 Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre roll field. 
 The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the 
 song continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre 
 roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as 
 you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a 
 running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally.
 On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if 
 not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really 
 not honest matter.  Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
 To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 Chris,
 
 You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you request 
 something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not.
 
 1. Select a range within which you wish to record.
 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and post 
 roll values in the Transport window are set to something other than zero.
 3. Record.
 
 It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable 
 and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space 
 bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even have 
 to be in Pre/Post roll to do that.
 
 Slau
 On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Slau,
 
 This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must 
 admit, you went way over my head!  I know you do audio stuff for a 
 living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry.  Would you be 
 willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works?  I'm sorry, 
 but via text, this just isn't making sense at all.  It's not your falt, 
 It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text.
 
 I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of 
 audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit 
 record, and you're done.  It seem like there is way more to it than that 
 though.
 
 Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch in, 
 or is this about the easiest way to do it.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
 To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 Chris,
 
 Go to the Transport window.
 Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and beats, 
 type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount will be one bar 
 and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The button appears to the 
 left of the numeric field you just entered.
 Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps.
 
 Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend temporarily turning 
 them off with Command-k.
 
 Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range of bars 
 and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your 

Re: Editing questions

2014-05-02 Thread Slau Halatyn
The steps I described will work in the absence of a scrub wheel.


Slau

On May 2, 2014, at 7:42 AM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks so much sir slau for your valyable info. sure I will follow
 them and tell you the results.  or I will send a track to listen?
 concerning scrubbing! I hope to buy something used but in perfect
 condition that can do that. but the control 1 to 9 will do the trick?
 
 
 On 5/1/14, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ramy,
 
 Track selection:
 Make sure you have Edit Follows Track Selection checked under the Options
 menu.
 To move the insertion point down to another track, thus selecting the next
 track,  use Control-; (semicolon).
 To move the insertion to the previous track, use Control-p.
 You don't need to de-select tracks if only one track is selected.
 If you've created multiple tracks at once and they're all selected, you can
 retract the selection by passing through a keystroke. To pass a keystroke,
 press Control-Option-tab. Then press Control-Option-Shift-; (semicolon).
 This will de-select the last track. From there, you can use
 Control-Option-semicolon and control-Option-p to move the insertion to other
 tracks.
 
 Nudging regions is done with the plus and minus keys on the numeric keypad.
 Set the nudge value from the Nudge Controls pop-up button in the Grid/Nudge
 cluster in the edit window. To move a region left or earlier, use the minus
 key. To move it right or later, use the plus key. Regions must be selected
 in order for them to be nudged. If no region is selected, you'll only be
 moving the insertion point by the nudge value. There's a lot of information
 in the Pro Tools Reference Guide on editing, in fact, several chapters. I
 encourage you to read.
 
 You can't scrub without a scrub wheel. A sighted user can select the
 scrubber tool but a blind user would be shooting in the dark and it's
 impractical to try scrubbing with that tool. If you don't have a scrub
 wheel, you can use the shuttle feature. Control-1 through 9 on the numeric
 keypad plays back at different speeds where 5 is normal speed. Once engaged,
 minus and plus toggle the playback backward and forward. Once you're in the
 general vicinity of where you wish to be, press the space bar to stop. Now
 use the plus/minus key to nudge the insertion point by the nudge value. To
 change the nudge value on the fly, use Command-Option-plus/minus. The
 default values from lowest to highest are 1 millisecond, 10 milliseconds,
 100 milliseconds, 500 milliseconds and 1 second. If you're in bars/beats,
 those values are different but follow the same principle.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 1, 2014, at 4:47 PM, ramy moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 With pro tools, I can, record, record another track, save a file, import
 wave, incert new tracks, solo, mute.
 
 But I still need to now:
 How to deselect tracks, how to nuddge via keyboard not with surface
 because I don't have jug wheel, how to scrubb.
 The most important thing for me is editing.
 So if you please, I need some answers to my questions.
 Thanks
 
 
 Ramy moustafa saber
 Musicc instructor at:
 faculty of musical education
 music arranger and sound engineer
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Chris Smart
You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, 
well, seconds.



At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Shruggs,

That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour 
minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



well, how long do you need to get ready to play?

If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.

At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Slau,

So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate 
if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks?


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need 
enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, 
put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you 
think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type 
that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't 
matter as much because who cares how long the song continues 
playing after you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll 
value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be recording as 
soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll 
is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, literally.
On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values 
do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set 
to, or does it really not honest matter.  Just pick a random 
number so's long as it isn't 0.


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

Chris,

You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when 
you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not.


1. Select a range within which you wish to record.
2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre 
and post roll values in the Transport window are set to something 
other than zero.

3. Record.

It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension 
cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing 
Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to 
stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that.


Slau
On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:



Slau,

This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but 
I must admit, you went way over my head!  I know you do audio 
stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no 
hurry.  Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration 
of how this works?  I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't 
making sense at all.  It's not your falt, It's just that it 
seems this is a very hard concept to grasp via text.


I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the 
portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, 
arm the track, hit record, and you're done.  It seem like there 
is way more to it than that though.


Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on 
punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it.


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

Chris,

Go to the Transport window.
Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars and 
beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount 
will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The 
button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered.

Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps.

Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend 
temporarily turning them off with Command-k.


Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch in. Select the range 
of bars and/or beats you wish to record. Once you've made your 
selection, press Command-k to enable Pre/Post roll. If you press 
record, you'll hear one bar before your selected range as 
pre-roll and you'll only be in record from the selection point. 
Pro Tools will record through the selection and exit record mode 
for the final bar of post roll.


If you want two bars of 

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Chris Smart
Yeah, I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from. Five seconds 
is five seconds of time!


At 07:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Chris,

As you said, in bars and beats, it represents bars and beats so, 
following that logic, in minutes and seconds, it represents minutes 
and seconds. Figure out how much time you need in whichever format 
your session is in and go for it.


Slau

On May 2, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


 Shruggs,

 That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour 
minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?


 Chris.

 - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


 well, how long do you need to get ready to play?

 If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, 
that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.

 At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
 Slau,

 So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I 
calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of 
bars, beats, ticks?


 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
 To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

 OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to 
need enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your 
mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you 
think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that 
number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter 
as much because who cares how long the song continues playing after 
you've finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll 
have no pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press 
Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running 
start, figuratively and, in your case, literally.
 On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


 So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values 
do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set 
to, or does it really not honest matter.  Just pick a random number 
so's long as it isn't 0.


 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
 To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

 Chris,

 You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when 
you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not.


 1. Select a range within which you wish to record.
 2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the 
pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to 
something other than zero.

 3. Record.

 It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB 
extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply 
pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar 
to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that.


 Slau
 On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


 Slau,

 This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, 
but I must admit, you went way over my head!  I know you do audio 
stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no 
hurry.  Would you be willing to make me an audio demonstration of 
how this works?  I'm sorry, but via text, this just isn't making 
sense at all.  It's not your falt, It's just that it seems this is 
a very hard concept to grasp via text.


 I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the 
portion of audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm 
the track, hit record, and you're done.  It seem like there is way 
more to it than that though.


 Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn 
on punch in, or is this about the easiest way to do it.


 Chris.

 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
 To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

 Chris,

 Go to the Transport window.
 Click once on the Pre-roll amount. Assuming you're in bars 
and beats, type the number 1 and press return. The Pre-roll amount 
will be one bar and Pre-roll will automatically be enabled. The 
button appears to the left of the numeric field you just entered.

 Move down to the Post-roll field and follow the same steps.

 Now that Pre and Post roll are enabled, I'd recommend 
temporarily turning them off with Command-k.


 Go to the bar/beat where you wish to punch 

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both.  I didn't 
realize that when on bars and beats you specified both.  I thought it was an 
absolute bar value.  In other words, I thought that you only could say 3 
bars.  I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats.  Same goes with 
hours, minutes, seconds.  I was under the impression you only could specify 
an exact value.  I didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 
seconds.  I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the 
nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as 
well.  I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 
1:30.  So I was asking with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, 
what the different values would represent.  Would it be an absolute minute, 
or would I specify in seconds.  Again, now I see it's both.


Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me!  I was really 
trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... 
well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for!  I was just 
asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, 
seconds.



At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Shruggs,

That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour minute 
seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



well, how long do you need to get ready to play?

If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.

At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Slau,

So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate if I'm 
doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks?


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough 
pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on 
headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 
8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre 
roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares 
how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record 
pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be 
recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre 
roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, 
literally.
On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if 
not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really 
not honest matter.  Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0.


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

Chris,

You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you 
request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not.


1. Select a range within which you wish to record.
2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and 
post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other 
than zero.

3. Record.

It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable 
and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space 
bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even 
have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that.


Slau
On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:



Slau,

This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must 
admit, you went way over my head!  I know you do audio stuff for a 
living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry.  Would you be 
willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works?  I'm 
sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all.  It's not 
your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to 
grasp via text.


I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of 
audio you want to record, then 

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Ahoy There! :)
This is not advanced ProTools Questions this is basic PT questions just to 
clarify the Traffic about this!
I'm holding a seminar soon about setting pre roll and post roll in PT, if any 
body wants to join me contact me off list!? ;)
YMMV
Chuck

CHUCK REICHEL
soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
www.SoundPictureRecording.com
954-742-0019
GUFFAWING :)
In GOD I Trust

On May 2, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

 Yeah, I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from. Five seconds is five 
 seconds of time!
 
 At 07:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
 Chris,
 
 As you said, in bars and beats, it represents bars and beats so, following 
 that logic, in minutes and seconds, it represents minutes and seconds. 
 Figure out how much time you need in whichever format your session is in and 
 go for it.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 2, 2014, at 1:29 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  Shruggs,
 
  That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
  represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour minute 
  seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?
 
  Chris.
 
  - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
  Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 
  well, how long do you need to get ready to play?
 
  If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
  obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.
  At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
  Slau,
 
  So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate if I'm 
  doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks?
 
  Chris.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
  To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
  Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
  OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough 
  pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on 
  headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll be? 
  8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the Pre 
  roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who cares 
  how long the song continues playing after you've finished the record 
  pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be 
  recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of the pre 
  roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your case, 
  literally.
  On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, if 
  not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it really 
  not honest matter.  Just pick a random number so's long as it isn't 0.
 
  Chris.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
  To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
  Chris,
 
  You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you 
  request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not.
 
  1. Select a range within which you wish to record.
  2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and 
  post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other 
  than zero.
  3. Record.
 
  It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension cable 
  and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing Command-Space 
  bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. You don't even 
  have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that.
 
  Slau
  On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Slau,
 
  This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, but I must 
  admit, you went way over my head!  I know you do audio stuff for a 
  living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm in no hurry.  Would you be 
  willing to make me an audio demonstration of how this works?  I'm 
  sorry, but via text, this just isn't making sense at all.  It's not 
  your falt, It's just that it seems this is a very hard concept to 
  grasp via text.
 
  I thought it would be more easy than this, like select the portion of 
  audio you want to record, then toggle on punch in, arm the track, hit 
  record, and you're done.  It seem like there is way more to it than 
  that though.
 
  Wasn't there something like, num pad 4, or was it 6 to turn on punch 
  in, or is this about the easiest way to do it.
 
  Chris.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
  To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM
  

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Chris Smart

I'll save us the bother and not reply in future.
I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or 
hour increments would be for recording but ok ...


At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified 
both.  I didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified 
both.  I thought it was an absolute bar value.  In other words, I 
thought that you only could say 3 bars.  I didn't realize you could 
say 3 bars, 2 beats.  Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds.  I was 
under the impression you only could specify an exact value.  I 
didn't realize it was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds.  I 
thought you'd have to round the seconds up or down to the nearest 
minute, and only could specify a min value, not a second value as 
well.  I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it 
couldn't be 1:30.  So I was asking with that assumption, which now I 
know was incorrect, what the different values would 
represent.  Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in 
seconds.  Again, now I see it's both.


Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me!  I was 
really trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and 
seconds are... well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely 
uncalled for!  I was just asking for help, you don't have to be such 
a smart-butt about it.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, 
well, seconds.



At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Shruggs,

That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour 
minute seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



well, how long do you need to get ready to play?

If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, 
that obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.

At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Slau,

So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I 
calculate if I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of 
bars, beats, ticks?


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need 
enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your 
mic, put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do 
you think that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, 
type that number into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value 
doesn't matter as much because who cares how long the song 
continues playing after you've finished the record pass. If the 
pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and you'll be 
recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose of 
the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in 
your case, literally.
On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values 
do/indicate, if not 0, how do I determine what they should be 
set to, or does it really not honest matter.  Just pick a 
random number so's long as it isn't 0.


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

Chris,

You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when 
you request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's not.


1. Select a range within which you wish to record.
2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the 
pre and post roll values in the Transport window are set to 
something other than zero.

3. Record.

It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB 
extension cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by 
simply pressing Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit 
space bar to stop. You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that.


Slau
On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:



Slau,

This isn't you at all, you did an excellent job explaining, 
but I must admit, you went way over my head!  I know you do 
audio stuff for a living, so it's not gonna be quick, but I'm 
in no hurry.  Would you be willing to make me an audio 
demonstration of how this works?  I'm sorry, but via text, 
this just isn't making 

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself.

It doesn't bother me.  There are plenty of others who I know will be happy 
to help.  You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better.  I 
respect your decision.  Smile.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



I'll save us the bother and not reply in future.
I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour 
increments would be for recording but ok ...


At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both.  I 
didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both.  I thought 
it was an absolute bar value.  In other words, I thought that you only 
could say 3 bars.  I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats.  Same 
goes with hours, minutes, seconds.  I was under the impression you only 
could specify an exact value.  I didn't realize it was flexible enough to 
say 1 minute 30 seconds.  I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or 
down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a 
second value as well.  I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 
minutes, it couldn't be 1:30.  So I was asking with that assumption, which 
now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. 
Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds.  Again, now 
I see it's both.


Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me!  I was really 
trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... 
well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for!  I was just 
asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, 
seconds.



At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Shruggs,

That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour minute 
seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



well, how long do you need to get ready to play?

If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.

At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Slau,

So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate if 
I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks?


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need 
enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put 
on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think 
that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number 
into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much 
because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've 
finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no 
pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space 
bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, 
figuratively and, in your case, literally.
On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, 
if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it 
really not honest matter.  Just pick a random number so's long as it 
isn't 0.


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

Chris,

You specifically asked for step-by-step instructions and, when you 
request something like that, it's going to sound complicated. It's 
not.


1. Select a range within which you wish to record.
2.Enable Pre/Post roll with Command-k and make sure that the pre and 
post roll values in the Transport window are set to something other 
than zero.

3. Record.

It's rather simple. Another alternative is to buy a USB extension 
cable and keep your keyboard close. Punch in by simply pressing 
Command-Space bar where you wish to record. Hit space bar to stop. 
You don't even have to be in Pre/Post roll to do that.


Slau
On May 1, 2014, at 9:48 PM, 

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Alan Macdonald
I think we are all in the same boat here and trying to learn pro tools with 
VoiceOver isn't straightforward and can be frustrating at times for all of us. 
I read this forum every day and pick up hints and tips and maybe when I'm a bit 
more clued up I'll be able to help others too but in the meantime what I've 
read here is gold and frankly without it I'd be struggling at college but as it 
is I'm managing nicely. So, if there is something you know that someone else 
doesn't then help them and at some point someone will help you in return. In 
short, we are all on the same team effectively so lets keep it that way and 
we'll all benefit and become pro tools ninjas in the end. 

Cheers, 

Alan, 
Oban, Scotland 


Sent from my iPhone

 On 2 May 2014, at 16:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself.
 
 It doesn't bother me.  There are plenty of others who I know will be happy to 
 help.  You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better.  I 
 respect your decision.  Smile.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 
 I'll save us the bother and not reply in future.
 I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour 
 increments would be for recording but ok ...
 
 At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
 I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both.  I 
 didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both.  I thought 
 it was an absolute bar value.  In other words, I thought that you only 
 could say 3 bars.  I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats.  Same 
 goes with hours, minutes, seconds.  I was under the impression you only 
 could specify an exact value.  I didn't realize it was flexible enough to 
 say 1 minute 30 seconds.  I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or 
 down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a 
 second value as well.  I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 
 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30.  So I was asking with that assumption, which 
 now I know was incorrect, what the different values would represent. Would 
 it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds.  Again, now I see 
 it's both.
 
 Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me!  I was really 
 trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... 
 well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for!  I was just 
 asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 
 You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, 
 seconds.
 
 
 At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
 Shruggs,
 
 That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
 represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour minute 
 seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 
 well, how long do you need to get ready to play?
 
 If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
 obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.
 At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
 Slau,
 
 So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate if 
 I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, ticks?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
 To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
 Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions
 
 OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need enough 
 pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, put on 
 headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think that'll 
 be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number into the 
 Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much because who 
 cares how long the song continues playing after you've finished the 
 record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no pre roll and 
 you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space bar. The purpose 
 of the pre roll is to get a running start, figuratively and, in your 
 case, literally.
 On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, 
 if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it 
 really not honest matter.  Just pick a random number so's 

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Poppa Bear
Chris, if you get a chance, grab a wireless keyboard with a numb pad IMO. I 
like pressing 3 on the num pad for recording quick punch because it is a one 
button step and in my experience I have got punches in at a fraction of a 
second. It sounds like you will save a whole lot of time considering your 
set up. If you have the key board in your hand you can punch in over and 
over without having to walk over to the keyboard each time to hit record. 
This way you can do 10 takes in about a minute or less depending on the 
length of the punch.

HTH
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself.

It doesn't bother me.  There are plenty of others who I know will be happy 
to help.  You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better. 
I respect your decision.  Smile.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



I'll save us the bother and not reply in future.
I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour 
increments would be for recording but ok ...


At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both.  I 
didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both.  I thought 
it was an absolute bar value.  In other words, I thought that you only 
could say 3 bars.  I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 beats.  Same 
goes with hours, minutes, seconds.  I was under the impression you only 
could specify an exact value.  I didn't realize it was flexible enough to 
say 1 minute 30 seconds.  I thought you'd have to round the seconds up or 
down to the nearest minute, and only could specify a min value, not a 
second value as well.  I thought it had to either be 1 minute, or 2 
minutes, it couldn't be 1:30.  So I was asking with that assumption, 
which now I know was incorrect, what the different values would 
represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I specify in seconds. 
Again, now I see it's both.


Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me!  I was really 
trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... 
well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for!  I was just 
asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, well, 
seconds.



At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Shruggs,

That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour minute 
seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



well, how long do you need to get ready to play?

If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.

At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Slau,

So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate if 
I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, 
ticks?


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need 
enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, 
put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think 
that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number 
into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much 
because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've 
finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no 
pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space 
bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, 
figuratively and, in your case, literally.
On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


So, I'm confused.  What do the pre and post roll values do/indicate, 
if not 0, how do I determine what they should be set to, or does it 
really not honest matter.  Just pick a random number so's long as it 
isn't 0.


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: 

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Allen,

I couldn't have said your post better had I tried!  You literally took the 
words out of my mouth.  Well, ok, out of my fingers.  LOL!  Just kidding 
with ya.


Seriously though, we're all adults here, so let's act like them.  K?

Smile.

Be blessed.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Macdonald alan.macdon...@totalise.co.uk

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


I think we are all in the same boat here and trying to learn pro tools with 
VoiceOver isn't straightforward and can be frustrating at times for all of 
us. I read this forum every day and pick up hints and tips and maybe when 
I'm a bit more clued up I'll be able to help others too but in the meantime 
what I've read here is gold and frankly without it I'd be struggling at 
college but as it is I'm managing nicely. So, if there is something you know 
that someone else doesn't then help them and at some point someone will help 
you in return. In short, we are all on the same team effectively so lets 
keep it that way and we'll all benefit and become pro tools ninjas in the 
end.


Cheers,

Alan,
Oban, Scotland


Sent from my iPhone

On 2 May 2014, at 16:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself.

It doesn't bother me.  There are plenty of others who I know will be happy 
to help.  You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's better. 
I respect your decision.  Smile.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



I'll save us the bother and not reply in future.
I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour 
increments would be for recording but ok ...


At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both.  I 
didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both.  I 
thought it was an absolute bar value.  In other words, I thought that 
you only could say 3 bars.  I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 
beats.  Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds.  I was under the 
impression you only could specify an exact value.  I didn't realize it 
was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds.  I thought you'd have to 
round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could 
specify a min value, not a second value as well.  I thought it had to 
either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30.  So I was asking 
with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different 
values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I 
specify in seconds.  Again, now I see it's both.


Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me!  I was really 
trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... 
well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for!  I was just 
asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, 
well, seconds.



At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Shruggs,

That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour minute 
seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
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Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



well, how long do you need to get ready to play?

If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.

At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Slau,

So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate if 
I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, 
ticks?


Chris.

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To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need 
enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, 
put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think 
that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number 
into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much 
because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've 
finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no 
pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space 
bar. The purpose of the pre roll is 

Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That's not a half bad idea.  I didn't even think about a wireless keyboard. 
I'm a dork!  LOL!  Just kidding.  Seriously though.


Thanks for the tip.

Chris.

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Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


Chris, if you get a chance, grab a wireless keyboard with a numb pad IMO. 
I like pressing 3 on the num pad for recording quick punch because it is a 
one button step and in my experience I have got punches in at a fraction 
of a second. It sounds like you will save a whole lot of time considering 
your set up. If you have the key board in your hand you can punch in over 
and over without having to walk over to the keyboard each time to hit 
record. This way you can do 10 takes in about a minute or less depending 
on the length of the punch.

HTH
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Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



If you'd rather not reply, suit yourself.

It doesn't bother me.  There are plenty of others who I know will be 
happy to help.  You not responding doesn't offend me, if you feel it's 
better. I respect your decision.  Smile.


Chris.

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To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



I'll save us the bother and not reply in future.
I'm not sure what use a counter that only goes as fine as minute or hour 
increments would be for recording but ok ...


At 11:20 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:
I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both.  I 
didn't realize that when on bars and beats you specified both.  I 
thought it was an absolute bar value.  In other words, I thought that 
you only could say 3 bars.  I didn't realize you could say 3 bars, 2 
beats.  Same goes with hours, minutes, seconds.  I was under the 
impression you only could specify an exact value.  I didn't realize it 
was flexible enough to say 1 minute 30 seconds.  I thought you'd have to 
round the seconds up or down to the nearest minute, and only could 
specify a min value, not a second value as well.  I thought it had to 
either be 1 minute, or 2 minutes, it couldn't be 1:30.  So I was asking 
with that assumption, which now I know was incorrect, what the different 
values would represent. Would it be an absolute minute, or would I 
specify in seconds. Again, now I see it's both.


Frankly, your terse comments really are not amusing to me!  I was really 
trying to ask for help, and the whole quote: minutes and seconds are... 
well? um... minutes and seconds, was extremely uncalled for!  I was just 
asking for help, you don't have to be such a smart-butt about it.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions


You lost me there. minutes represents minutes! Seconds represents, 
well, seconds.



At 01:29 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Shruggs,

That's not what I meant.  I meant what does the numerical values 
represent? In beats/bars it obviously represents bars.  In hour minute 
seconds, what is it representing?... Seconds? Minutes? or what?


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions



well, how long do you need to get ready to play?

If you want to convert between bars/beats and minutes/seconds, that 
obviously depends on the tempo of your tune.

At 12:43 AM 5/2/2014, you wrote:

Slau,

So, you said with the pre-roll how many bars?  How do I calculate if 
I'm doing hours minutes seconds frames, instead of bars, beats, 
ticks?


Chris.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:slauhala...@gmail.comSlau Halatyn
To: mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.comptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

OK, since your keyboard is across the room, you're going to need 
enough pre roll to be able to press record, walk over to your mic, 
put on headphones and get ready to sing. How many bars do you think 
that'll be? 8? 10? Whatever you think it should be, type that number 
into the Pre roll field. The Post roll value doesn't matter as much 
because who cares how long the song continues playing after you've 
finished the record pass. If the pre roll value is 0, you'll have no 
pre roll and you'll be recording as soon as you press Command-space 
bar. The purpose of the pre roll is to get a running start, 
figuratively and, in your case, literally.
On May 1, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.comclgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


So, I'm 

Native Instruments?

2014-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I have a blind gentlemen who I'm working with on the use of ProTools.  He's 
curious if any of the Native Instruments stuff is accessible to use as a 
software instrument set with Voiceover.

Any feedback would be appreciated.  I'm going to try getting him to join this 
list, if I can, but in the meantime, if anyone knows, let me know.

Chris.

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Re: Native Instruments?

2014-05-02 Thread Scott Chesworth
The short and unfortunate answer is nope. There are a few hotspot type
solutions that'll unlock a bit of functionality for Kontakt and
perhaps other NI plugs in Windows, but I've not heard of any Mac
equivalents.

Sorry to be the barer of bad news.

Scott

On 5/2/14, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a blind gentlemen who I'm working with on the use of ProTools.  He's
 curious if any of the Native Instruments stuff is accessible to use as a
 software instrument set with Voiceover.

 Any feedback would be appreciated.  I'm going to try getting him to join
 this list, if I can, but in the meantime, if anyone knows, let me know.

 Chris.

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Re: Native Instruments?

2014-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

OK Scott.

Thanks for the very quick response.  Really appreciate it.

Chris.

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Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Native Instruments?



The short and unfortunate answer is nope. There are a few hotspot type
solutions that'll unlock a bit of functionality for Kontakt and
perhaps other NI plugs in Windows, but I've not heard of any Mac
equivalents.

Sorry to be the barer of bad news.

Scott

On 5/2/14, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a blind gentlemen who I'm working with on the use of ProTools. 
He's

curious if any of the Native Instruments stuff is accessible to use as a
software instrument set with Voiceover.

Any feedback would be appreciated.  I'm going to try getting him to join
this list, if I can, but in the meantime, if anyone knows, let me know.

Chris.

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Re: Native Instruments?

2014-05-02 Thread Slau Halatyn
Scott,

Have you heard of Keyboard Maestro? It's supposed to be like QuicKeys. I've 
purchased it but haven't gotten around to experimenting much. We'll see if it 
can fit the bill for screen clicks. I think it claims to facilitate such tasks.

Slau

On May 2, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 The short and unfortunate answer is nope. There are a few hotspot type
 solutions that'll unlock a bit of functionality for Kontakt and
 perhaps other NI plugs in Windows, but I've not heard of any Mac
 equivalents.
 
 Sorry to be the barer of bad news.
 
 Scott
 
 On 5/2/14, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a blind gentlemen who I'm working with on the use of ProTools.  He's
 curious if any of the Native Instruments stuff is accessible to use as a
 software instrument set with Voiceover.
 
 Any feedback would be appreciated.  I'm going to try getting him to join
 this list, if I can, but in the meantime, if anyone knows, let me know.
 
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Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Slau Halatyn

On May 2, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both.

Chris,

I think I see where the confusion came in. Part of that might have been from 
just reading the text of my reply rather than going to the Transport window and 
finding the pre-roll field. There, you probably would have seen something like 
1|0|000 or 0:02.000. It would have been self-evident that you could enter any 
value as long as you followed the convention of the session time format (eg. 
bars/beats or minutes:seconds, etc.).

Anyway, I think you're all set. Now, weren't you using something like the 002 
or 003? Those interfaces have a footswitch jack for punching in, BTW. Just 
another option in case you needed one.

Slau
 

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Re: A few more advanced ProTools Questions

2014-05-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

No Slau,

I'm using a Fast Track C400 from M-Audio which doesn't have that ability.

Chris.

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On May 2, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:



I think what I meant was I didn't realize that you specified both.


Chris,

I think I see where the confusion came in. Part of that might have been from 
just reading the text of my reply rather than going to the Transport window 
and finding the pre-roll field. There, you probably would have seen 
something like 1|0|000 or 0:02.000. It would have been self-evident that you 
could enter any value as long as you followed the convention of the session 
time format (eg. bars/beats or minutes:seconds, etc.).


Anyway, I think you're all set. Now, weren't you using something like the 
002 or 003? Those interfaces have a footswitch jack for punching in, BTW. 
Just another option in case you needed one.


Slau


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