Frontierdesign TranzPort for scrubbing
Hello there, anybody using the TranzPort from Frontierdesign and if so how is the scrubbing in Pro tools going? I know there is also the Alphatrack but I want a real wheel for it;-) Thanks, Ronald
Re: Pro Tools is busy alot
Hey Frank, Okay thanks. Ronald Op 10 apr 2011, om 04:55 heeft Frank Carmickle het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald On Apr 9, 2011, at 5:17 PM, RvR wrote: Hi Slau, So you got some trouble with it too. I now use an external usb drive and all seems fine, hope it stays that way. i think I will get me a firewire drive or of course an internal one. The latter looks the better choice right? I think you bought a mac pro so yes. Any of the current model 7200 rpm drives would be fine. Just read some reviews to find the fastest one. Slide in your mac pro and enjoy. Remember they are 3.5 drives. HTH --FC
Recording Xpand loops
Hi all, I just cannot figure out how to record a loop from the Xpand 2 plug-in. Have been searching the manuals and the internet but only found it perhaps has to do with adding an audio track and routing the instrument track to it. Have tried almost everything but can't get it to work. Can someone shed a little light on it? many thanks, Ronald
Re: Pro Tools is busy alot
Hi Slau, So you got some trouble with it too. I now use an external usb drive and all seems fine, hope it stays that way. i think I will get me a firewire drive or of course an internal one. The latter looks the better choice right? best, Ronald Op 8 apr 2011, om 18:02 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald, OK, I just experienced something similar to what you're describing. I tested it on a MacBook Pro using the internal drive. I've used this setup without incident while using an external drive. This time, I created a session on the internal drive. I imported a bunch of files to new audio tracks and the first time I tried to play back anything, I first got a busy signal and then eventually was informed that there was a potential clock problem or something like that. I saved the session, quit Pro Tools and relaunched. Everything after that worked fine. I think the key might be that, upon doing a bunch of stuff that is file intensive, Pro Tools might get a bit sluggish on the internal drive stuff. Like I said earlier, it really needs to be a dedicated drive. At any rate, give it a try by relaunching. Best, Slau On Apr 8, 2011, at 11:04 AM, RvR wrote: Hi Slau, I don't know if the busy state is seen by sightded folks, that was what I was wondering also. Can it be a Voice Over issue you think? I can try to get a busy situation when my sighted brother is here. I have a selfpowered 7200 external harddisk which I use for storing music and such, this I will try and see if that makes any difference. Ronald Op 8 apr 2011, om 15:01 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hey Ronald, Yeah, the computer is certainly fast enough. The internal drive situation is, as you already know, not recommended and that might be causing some issues although, frankly, with only a few tracks, it shouldn't slow down really. Does Pro Tools experience this busy state with VoiceOver off? You say that sighted users have confirmed this busy state but what people are seeing is just what VoiceOver is reporting so that doesn't tell us much. See if it does that with VoiceOver turned off completely. Another thing to consider is that, since you're using an internal system drive, there are all kinds of potential issues with the system monitoring Spotlight indexing, Time Machine backups, general drive maintenance, etc. It's really the worst scenario for recording. You'd be better off just picking up a $99 external bus powered drive but, frankly, I'd just wait and get a better external drive at 7200 rpm. Keep us posted, Slau On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:28 AM, RvR wrote: Hi Slau, Okay here are my specs: Latest model Mac Pro, single 2.8Ghz Xeon, 8gb ram, 2x 1tb internal hdd (1 for Windows on bootcamp) The Mac is completely configured by Apple. MacOS 10.6.7, Pro Tools 9 Using internal audio chip and internal harddisk for saving and recording I know it's important to have an external or second drive for recording, but since I am still learning I don't have many tracks at once, about 4 maximum. Or can it give these busy situations even then? My system is pretty capable I think. What I also wonder is when I get Voice Over telling Pro Tools being busy, this is also visible for sighted people as well? So I could talk to my local dealer who sold me Pro Tools about it. Talk soon, Ronald Op 7 apr 2011, om 22:59 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald, It could be any number of things. Unfortunately, it's difficult to keep track of what every person is using on this list. Which interface are you using and are you using an internal drive to which you're recording or an external one? How much rAM do you have installed and in which machine? Best, Slau On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:26 PM, RvR wrote: Dear listers, Last couple of days I get to hear Pro Tools is busy and stays this way until I force it to stop. At the simplest of actions like opening the new tracks dialog or playing only one or two tracks for instance. Have no idea why this is occurring so much. Already did a fresh install, but no better. Does any of you have a clue what's going on? Thanks, Ronald
Re: Pro Tools is busy alot
Hi Slau, Okay here are my specs: Latest model Mac Pro, single 2.8Ghz Xeon, 8gb ram, 2x 1tb internal hdd (1 for Windows on bootcamp) The Mac is completely configured by Apple. MacOS 10.6.7, Pro Tools 9 Using internal audio chip and internal harddisk for saving and recording I know it's important to have an external or second drive for recording, but since I am still learning I don't have many tracks at once, about 4 maximum. Or can it give these busy situations even then? My system is pretty capable I think. What I also wonder is when I get Voice Over telling Pro Tools being busy, this is also visible for sighted people as well? So I could talk to my local dealer who sold me Pro Tools about it. Talk soon, Ronald Op 7 apr 2011, om 22:59 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald, It could be any number of things. Unfortunately, it's difficult to keep track of what every person is using on this list. Which interface are you using and are you using an internal drive to which you're recording or an external one? How much rAM do you have installed and in which machine? Best, Slau On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:26 PM, RvR wrote: Dear listers, Last couple of days I get to hear Pro Tools is busy and stays this way until I force it to stop. At the simplest of actions like opening the new tracks dialog or playing only one or two tracks for instance. Have no idea why this is occurring so much. Already did a fresh install, but no better. Does any of you have a clue what's going on? Thanks, Ronald
Re: Pro Tools is busy alot
Hi Frank, Yeah I have heard you talking about that in a podcast from a few weeks ago. I will keep that in mind, although playing a song or opening the new trakcs dialog don't seem to fit in that category. Thanks, Ronald Op 7 apr 2011, om 23:02 heeft Frank Carmickle het volgende geschreven: Hello My experience is that if you press some incorrect VO keys, actions that it can not perform, VO has a fit and won't stop being busy until you stop and start VO. HTH --FC On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Ronald, It could be any number of things. Unfortunately, it's difficult to keep track of what every person is using on this list. Which interface are you using and are you using an internal drive to which you're recording or an external one? How much rAM do you have installed and in which machine? Best, Slau On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:26 PM, RvR wrote: Dear listers, Last couple of days I get to hear Pro Tools is busy and stays this way until I force it to stop. At the simplest of actions like opening the new tracks dialog or playing only one or two tracks for instance. Have no idea why this is occurring so much. Already did a fresh install, but no better. Does any of you have a clue what's going on? Thanks, Ronald
Shortcut for next or previous track?
Hi all, Is there a keyboard shortcut to skip to the next or previous track? I read in some old post you can go to adjacent tracks by using control+[ or P, but this doesn't seem to work here. Thanks Ronald
Re: Structure full presets ready.
Question: what's the difference between yours and the ones Kevin posted last week? those I already got and work fine. regards, Ronald Op 28 mrt 2011, om 03:16 heeft studiojay het volgende geschreven: Hi every One, My brother in law has saved all of the presets for structure. We will make them available to the list tomorrow. Jason
Re: Presets for Structure Free.
Hey Kevin, Thanks for the presets, Chuck too of course. Works great and some nice sounds too. I can import one preset at a time only. That's fine though. Also good job on the informal podcast. Cannot wait to hear your first real demonstration. I worked my way through the reference guide but although I think many things I will never use much other things are unclear cause much is explained in terms of dragging and visual orientation. I still got to get a right sense of the whole workflow. I just started, so it will come soon enough I hope. best, ronald Op 22 mrt 2011, om 23:49 heeft Kevin Reeves het volgende geschreven: Hey folks. Thanks to the kind work of Chuck, we now have all the presets for Structure Free. Unzip the following folder. Then, open structure, go to the Settings menu button, choose import, then select the files you want to import inside that folder. I would imagine you could select all with command A. Let's see if this works for everyone. Chuck had concerns about this being violation of copyrights, but these are freely available presets. There's nothing violating the ula in doing this. Enjoy, and let me know what you think. If I wasn't in the midst of a ton of client work, I'd do this myself. tonight. It would be great to get some people's feedback by the time of the conference. Here's the link. http://www.kevinreeves.net/StructureFree.zip Kevin
Re: An informal Podcast regarding Pro Tools.
Hey Kevin, Thanks alot, looking forward in hearing it. Mucho appriciated. best, Ronald Op 19 mrt 2011, om 07:35 heeft Kevin Reeves het volgende geschreven: Hey folks. While cleaning my apartment at 4 in the morning, I turned on the iPod and did about an hour or so worth of stream of consciousness chatting regarding Pro Tools. I go through it's back story on how we got where we are now, and tried to answer the 2 main questions that everyone's posing right now. 1. How accessible is it, ie, what can I do with it. 2. How much better or worse is it than Sonar. I think that a tutorial is important, but like everyone else, the time it takes is really daunting. So, for now, I'm gonna throw up some really informal things just to get some dialog started. Maybe I'll even do some quick recording of me working on a session so that folks can get an idea of how Pro Tools operates in a real world situation. This might be better than trying to plan out a huge tutorial. At least this would give potential switchers a chance to hear it in action, allow me to discuss what I'm doing while I'm doing it, and be able to see what I'm able to accomplish. But for now, enjoy this discussion. It will be appearing on Blind Cool Tech soon. I've uploaded it to their servers. http://kevinreeves.net/InformalProToolsTalk.mp3. Thanks so much, and I hope this sort of sheds some light for folks who have not yet made the decision to get a rig. Kevin
Re: Mac, Pro Tools first steps.
Jason, this is a good place to start: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ Ronald Op 2 mrt 2011, om 04:16 heeft studiojay het volgende geschreven: Hi every one, Well after some great advice from Chuck and Kevin, I purchased the following. 1. MacBook pro, 13.3 inch dual core i7, 4 gb ram, 500 gig hard drive. 2. Pro tools 9 software. 3. Pro tools instrument expansion pack. I should receive every thing in a few days. I am using the waiting time to learn every thing I can about voice over online. However, although I know pc's and sonar quite well, I won't know where to begin when I get pro tools. I don't even know how to install software on a mac. Can some one please advise me on what to do once I open the bran new boxes containing my new gear? Also, what happens as soon as I launch Pro tools for the first time? Thanks in advance for any help. Jason
Re: edit selection versus track selection
Hi Slau, That was already pretty clear to me, but you keep writing insertion follows track selection. Do you perhaps refer to the Link track and edit selection in the options menu? The different choice of words are a bit confusing. ronald Op 1 mrt 2011, om 15:59 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Just a little clarification about edit selection and track selection. Track selections and edit selections are two separate things. A track can be selected without having any ranges selected within it. Track selection is used for commands like deleting a track, making it inactive, grouping, etc. These are things that have nothing to do with editing, per se. An edit selection is like selecting a range of text within a word processing document. Although most people now use Insertion Follows Track Selection, it's still possible to have an insertion or edit selection within a track that isn't selected. Regardless of whether one links the track selection and insertion, it's helpful to keep in mind that selections within any given track and selections of tracks, again, of tracks, are two separate things. Slau
Re: edit selection versus track selection
Yeah that was what I already thought. Good reference for everyone. best,Ronald Op 1 mrt 2011, om 16:36 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Yes, I'm sorry, Link Track and Edit Selection. I'm not in front of Pro Tools 9 right now. BTW, that message was for folks in general who might not have gotten the difference between the two types of selections. Cheers, Slau On Mar 1, 2011, at 10:25 AM, RvR wrote: Hi Slau, That was already pretty clear to me, but you keep writing insertion follows track selection. Do you perhaps refer to the Link track and edit selection in the options menu? The different choice of words are a bit confusing. ronald Op 1 mrt 2011, om 15:59 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Just a little clarification about edit selection and track selection. Track selections and edit selections are two separate things. A track can be selected without having any ranges selected within it. Track selection is used for commands like deleting a track, making it inactive, grouping, etc. These are things that have nothing to do with editing, per se. An edit selection is like selecting a range of text within a word processing document. Although most people now use Insertion Follows Track Selection, it's still possible to have an insertion or edit selection within a track that isn't selected. Regardless of whether one links the track selection and insertion, it's helpful to keep in mind that selections within any given track and selections of tracks, again, of tracks, are two separate things. Slau
Re: playlists
Hey Slau, You are the best! Finally I understand. Many thanks for your explanations and patience ;-) best, Ronald Op 25 feb 2011, om 21:37 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald, It sounds more complicated than it really is. Let's distinguish between two things that are very clearly separated in the analog world but are often confused in the digital world. One is a track and the other is a channel. In a DAW, the two are often used interchangeably. The Mix window shows tracks, yes, but think of them as channels on a mixing console. Each one of those channels is feeding and receiving information from a track as if it were a tape machine. The Edit window is sort of like a tape machine. Each track is like a track on a multitrack tape recorder. Each playlist is just a separate path on that tape, a separate track. the difference in the digital world is that, rather than just having one path for each track, there are any number of virtual paths underneath the topmost playlist. By selecting a range, using the Start and End parameters, it's possible to record only within the specified ranges. Further, one can put the transport into Loop Record mode where multiple passes can be recorded within the same range. That's a little more complex and I won't get into that here. Anyway, when you read anything about ranges, it's referring to Start and end times. Whenever you read something about selecting something in a playlist, it simply means selecting something in the visible track or the topmost playlist in this case. Hopefully, that makes some sense. Best, Slau On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:44 PM, RvR wrote: Hi Slau, Very nice explanation, that's what I thought playlistgs were all about. Perhaps it's my poor knowledge of the English language, but I still wonder why the reference guide keeps mentioneing to set ranges in the track's playlist. Let me quote some examples: 1. select a range in a track's playlist (with timeline and Edit Selection enabled) 2. the easiest is to select the range to be looped in the track's playlist 3. click anywhere in the track's playlist to begin recording from that point. Hopefully I won't be making myself a complete fool by asking this, but what are they referring to when writing the track's playlist? I think the playlists are to be found in the edit window on the track's playlist selector? Right? Or by saying track's playlist are they just referring to the track currently selected and where you can set ranges with numpad or counter display? I have a feeling it's a simple thing, but just don't get it. LOL thanks, ronald Just a word about playlists: As soon as an audio track is created, it has a playlist called Audio and the number of the track in the name. If you name the track before recording (as one should always do), the playlist will now be called whatever you named the track. So, in other words, whatever you name you track is actually naming the the playlist. Let's say you've recorded some audio on a track named Piano and now you want to record an alternate take. using the playlist selector, choose New… and you'll be prompted with a dialog to name the playlist. The default will be the same name with .01 appended to the name. You can repeat this process to record multiple takes on the same channel strip but using several playlists. Think of it as having a stack of papers, each with similar information but only one piece of paper can be on top and that is your current playlist but there are other playlists beneath. Since Pro Tools appends .01, .02, .03, etc. to the name, it's a good idea (if you know you're going to do multiple takes, to create a new playlist right at the outset so that your first take is already named Track Name.01. This way, each subsequent playlist will reflect the same number as your take. In the end, you can comp to the original playlist which has no number appended and it can be considered your final or master playlist for that track. Hope that helps, Slau
Re: playlists
Hi Slau, Very nice explanation, that's what I thought playlistgs were all about. Perhaps it's my poor knowledge of the English language, but I still wonder why the reference guide keeps mentioneing to set ranges in the track's playlist. Let me quote some examples: 1. select a range in a track's playlist (with timeline and Edit Selection enabled) 2. the easiest is to select the range to be looped in the track's playlist 3. click anywhere in the track's playlist to begin recording from that point. Hopefully I won't be making myself a complete fool by asking this, but what are they referring to when writing the track's playlist? I think the playlists are to be found in the edit window on the track's playlist selector? Right? Or by saying track's playlist are they just referring to the track currently selected and where you can set ranges with numpad or counter display? I have a feeling it's a simple thing, but just don't get it. LOL thanks, ronald Just a word about playlists: As soon as an audio track is created, it has a playlist called Audio and the number of the track in the name. If you name the track before recording (as one should always do), the playlist will now be called whatever you named the track. So, in other words, whatever you name you track is actually naming the the playlist. Let's say you've recorded some audio on a track named Piano and now you want to record an alternate take. using the playlist selector, choose New… and you'll be prompted with a dialog to name the playlist. The default will be the same name with .01 appended to the name. You can repeat this process to record multiple takes on the same channel strip but using several playlists. Think of it as having a stack of papers, each with similar information but only one piece of paper can be on top and that is your current playlist but there are other playlists beneath. Since Pro Tools appends .01, .02, .03, etc. to the name, it's a good idea (if you know you're going to do multiple takes, to create a new playlist right at the outset so that your first take is already named Track Name.01. This way, each subsequent playlist will reflect the same number as your take. In the end, you can comp to the original playlist which has no number appended and it can be considered your final or master playlist for that track. Hope that helps, Slau
Clarification on setting record and play ranges
He folks, Alright, I am now almost halfway through the reference guide and so far so good. Something has me still confused though. Could you explain where and where not exactly it is possible to set record and play ranges. The reference guide talks a lot about rulers but I know they are not accessible with Voice Over yet. the there is of course the Counter Display cluster, but the guide also talks about setting ranges in a track's playlist. Is this doable with voice Over? Cannot do anything there it seems. Now I mention the counter display, does the slash command on the numpad work only when you are in the counter display already or should it work too when not interacted with it? And do you get Voice Over feedback for it at all? Oh yes almost forgot, are you able to set record and play ranges with a control surface easier. Perhaps with the jog/shuttle functions? Your replies are greatly appreciated. Kindly, Ronald
Re: Safe to buy second hand Digi 003?
Slau, was supposed to be all with double l, so you also [smile] Pro Tools is included, although I already bought PT9, hope the 003 is not linked to that particular Pro tools? Have no clue how the Avid registration works. Ronald Op 23 feb 2011, om 14:25 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald, I'm not sure who Al is but I just thought I'd chime in to say there's no control that is specifically prone to failure on the 003 from what I understand. You might want to make sure that there's a valid copy of Pro Tools attached to the sale and it might be a good idea to transfer ownership within Avid's database. slau On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:53 AM, RvR wrote: Hi al, need your advice. I can buy a second hand Digi 003 Factory for 750 euro from a private seller. He says it's hardly used, for what it's worht. It has no more warranty. Are there parts that are weak and should I pay attention to when looking at it? Many thanks! Ronald
Re: Grouping and selecting tracks
Hey Kevin, thanks for the suggestions. the Korg Nano I already knew but the Alphatrack sounds interesting indeed. As you perhaps saw in my other message I found a used Digi 003 for 750 euro and thought it was a good deal but haven't heard anything back from the guy yet. Well maybe tomorrow. best, Ronald Op 23 feb 2011, om 01:56 heeft Kevin Reeves het volgende geschreven: Hey Ronnald. Try the alphatrack from frontier designs, http://amzn.to/g2rMaX or the nano kontrol from korg. http://amzn.to/eQpJQb That's like 50 bucks or so. It's not automated, but it does have the buttons you need. If I think of anything else, I'll throw it your way. Kevin On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Ronald, Yes, a control surface is practically a necessity. It makes for solving a bunch of issues. It's always something… innit? Slau On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:42 PM, RvR wrote: Hey Slau, Oh well that's what I was afraid of. A nice control surface would bring me a lot of comfort with selecting, muting, transport etc. Haven't used one before and the choices for reasenable priced surfaces/interfaces are hard to find these days. The Digi 003 rack models don't have an included control surface, if I am not mistaken. The normal 003 is double the price. Any alternatives? Except for the Project Mix then. Ronald Op 21 feb 2011, om 14:59 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald, I haven't found anything that can consistently work for selecting and deselecting tracks without a control surface. I'm still trying to come up with something that'll work each time. Slau On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:37 PM, RvR wrote: Hi all, What is the easiest way to select one or multiple tracks? I read some messages with different approaches in the list archive. I wonder if there is a one method fits all approach available. And how to know if one's selected without being in the track list table? Then Grouping of tracks: While all the tracks were automatically selected after creating them in the tracklist table I created a Group. This went fine but how can I deselect or add tracks to the Groep? The Select tracks option in the menu in the Group list table is not available. I think all the selected tracks are in the Groep cause they are in the Group list table. The Group creation dialog is still not fully accessible in my PT9, but this is a known fact I read. But how to do it then? Many thanks for any feedback you can provide. Best regards, ronald
Re: Archive.
Hi Pino, You can find the archives here: http://groups.google.com/group/ptaccess Talk soon, Ronald Op 21 feb 2011, om 23:49 heeft Pino Guarraci het volgende geschreven: Yes that's exactely what I mean. Pino www.studiocrescendo.be www.proguide.eu - Original Message - From: J. R. Westmoreland To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 5:39 PM Subject: RE: Archive. Is looks like you can get at most older stuff through the discussion topics list. J. R. From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pino Guarraci Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 9:26 AM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Archive. Dear all, Do someone know if there is an archive in the Googlegroups where I can find all emails regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools since the beginning? Maby it's a good idea to read some of this messages to avoud asking always the same questions. Many thanks in advance. Regards, Pino www.studiocrescendo.be www.proguide.eu
Re: Grouping and selecting tracks
Hey Slau, Oh well that's what I was afraid of. A nice control surface would bring me a lot of comfort with selecting, muting, transport etc. Haven't used one before and the choices for reasenable priced surfaces/interfaces are hard to find these days. The Digi 003 rack models don't have an included control surface, if I am not mistaken. The normal 003 is double the price. Any alternatives? Except for the Project Mix then. Ronald Op 21 feb 2011, om 14:59 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald, I haven't found anything that can consistently work for selecting and deselecting tracks without a control surface. I'm still trying to come up with something that'll work each time. Slau On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:37 PM, RvR wrote: Hi all, What is the easiest way to select one or multiple tracks? I read some messages with different approaches in the list archive. I wonder if there is a one method fits all approach available. And how to know if one's selected without being in the track list table? Then Grouping of tracks: While all the tracks were automatically selected after creating them in the tracklist table I created a Group. This went fine but how can I deselect or add tracks to the Groep? The Select tracks option in the menu in the Group list table is not available. I think all the selected tracks are in the Groep cause they are in the Group list table. The Group creation dialog is still not fully accessible in my PT9, but this is a known fact I read. But how to do it then? Many thanks for any feedback you can provide. Best regards, ronald
Re: Changing track view
Hi Slau, Thanks, found it. Not too difficult after all, I was looking in the wrong place;-) friendly, Ronald Op 16 feb 2011, om 23:35 heeft Slau Halatyn het volgende geschreven: Hi Ronald, I don't recall there being a shortcut for changing the track view, although there very well may be. At any rate, to change the track view, go to the edit window and move to the track for which you'd like to change the view. This means navigating to the track's controls and not the track within the Tracks Table. Once you've interacted with the track, move past the meters and stuff until you come to the Track View Selector button. Press the button and select the view you'd like to use. Keep in mind, if you have the view selector set to volume and you select audio within the track and press Delete, what you'll be deleting is volume information not the audio itself. To edit or delete audio, you must have Waveform selected. This Track view is like a filter that displays waveforms or volume or pan or whatever parameters that have been automated. HTH, Slau On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:06 PM, RvR wrote: Hello, If I am reading it right in the reference guide you should be able to change the track view with the track view button, but I don't hear it. Found some video on the web where some guy talks that it's a triangle of some sort above the track header. the shortcuts mentioned in the reference guide are conflicting with voice over. Can anyone shed some light on the subject? thanks, Ronald
Changing track view
Hello, If I am reading it right in the reference guide you should be able to change the track view with the track view button, but I don't hear it. Found some video on the web where some guy talks that it's a triangle of some sort above the track header. the shortcuts mentioned in the reference guide are conflicting with voice over. Can anyone shed some light on the subject? thanks, Ronald
Aggregate internal audio setup
Hi guys, Since you are talking about outputs and all you don't mind me throwing in some dummy questions also? While struggling through the reference guide for PT 9 I tried to get some sound out it already. I use PT 9, internal audio of my Mac Pro for the time being and a set of speakers connected to the line out jack. I selected the Aggregate device in the Hardware setup for my internal audio chip. Once I got some sound out of it, but came from the internal speaker only. Don't know what I did after that but cannot get any sound anymore at all. The i/o settings are as follows: Input: Don't see any to be honest, think defaults are active here. Output: Controller Meter Path: Out 1-2 Audition Path: A1-2 Default Output Bus: Out 1-2 On the track input and output settings all the above are selected. So how can I configure the sound comes out of the line out to my external speakers? If that's possible at all. a man's got to srart somehwere right? LOL Thanks, Ronald
RE: Announcing the VoxKeys project
Hey Bryan, Great project. I ain't a very technical type unfortunately but will try it for sure with my pro tools 9. One quick question though, do I need Quickeys for this? Don't have it. thanks, Ronald _ Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Bryan Smart Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2011 9:06 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Announcing the VoxKeys project Hi everyone. Here is info about my project, VoxKeys, that is intended to encourage and coordinate the development of scripts for VoiceOver. The first test release didn't blow up anyone's computer, so this second release can probably be risked on a larger audience. Since most all of you here are fairly technical types, I'm enthusiastic about any feedback that you'd care to provide in any regard, from the installer, to the way that the system is organized, to just bug reports. I've included some intro copy below, but, in a nutshell, this is a collection of extensions for QuicKeys. VoxKeys is the name of the set of extensions. Once you install VoxKeys, you can look at the help file for an explanation of why I'm using QuicKeys, as well as technical info toward the end. It is my hope that by extending/scripting VoiceOver and other apps in this way, we all can build a collection of accessibility enhancements that can be installed in a single go. Though Pro Tools is mostly accessible, QuicKeys shortcuts could help dramatically increase our productivity by speeding up navigation tasks. At the moment, there aren't any PT shortcuts, but basic shortcuts for Pro Tools and GarageBand are on the road map for the next release. I'm planning to start out with some simple shortcuts to automatically move the VoiceOver focus around the PT and GB interfaces. Being able to quickly skip to areas of the user interface should make a big impact on increasing the speed that we navigate these programs. However, a general purpose part of VoxKeys that you all will appreciate is the extended shortcuts that it provides for mouse clicks. With them, you can, for example, option click or command click items from the keyboard. Pro Tools uses this in lots of places, and now its easy to do for VO users. There are lots of possibilities for the future. QuicKeys can trigger shortcuts based on MIDI activity. Down the line, we could take a simple external MIDI controller, and have it trigger functions that aren't even available on control surfaces at this point. QuicKeys can also watch the screen, and trigger shortcuts based on what it sees, so audio notifications for clipping meters, being able to set certain parts of the screen to automatically read when they change, and other similar possibilities await us. Okay, here's the copy for general audiences. If you use a Mac with the built-in VoiceOver screen reader, VoxKeys is intended to help you work faster, and access more, than would be possible with only VoiceOver. VoxKeys helps you work faster by adding new shortcuts to applications that will make it possible to quickly access program functions that would have previously required many keystrokes. Other new shortcuts make it possible for you to quickly hear important on-screen information without the need for you to move the VoiceOver cursor. Beyond speeding up tasks that you could normally accomplish with VoiceOver, VoxKeys opens up functions in applications that were previously inaccessible. VoxKeys can directly click and manipulate user interface elements on the screen that are invisible to VoiceOver. VoxKeys can also use Applescript to directly control applications, bypassing their user interfaces altogether, in many cases. These new capabilities are available through new shortcuts that VoxKeys adds to your applications. Currently, VoxKeys provides quick access to status announcements such as date, time, and power, adds new iTunes shortcuts for speaking track information and for quickly accessing controls that normally lack shortcuts (like repeat/shuffle), adds many Skype keyboard shortcuts including globally available answer/hang-up shortcuts, and provides shortcuts for clicking the mouse in ways that VoiceOver is unable. Perhaps its most interesting capability at the moment, though, is support for web apps. Through a combination of directly accessing the object model of a web page, and directly manipulating the mouse, VoxKeys can provide specialized access for web sites when accessed from Safari. Currently, the Netflix and Rhapsody web players are supported. With VoxKeys, you can, in these previously inaccessible players, play/pause recordings, navigate between tracks. Mute/unmute audio, control repeat and shuffle modes, switch to full screen playback, and more. For additional information and to download, go here: http://blog.bryansmart.com/voxkeys-project/ http://blog.bryansmart.com/voxkeys-project/ Bryan
RE: conference
Hi Frank, Will it be possible to download some of the conferences? Thanks, Ronald
Sonic Solutions No Noise
Hello all, A friend of mine would like to work with Pro Tools and the Sonic Solutions No Noise plugin and wonders if it is accessible with Voice Over. Didn't know it before he told me, so I thought I could ask you guys for any experiences on the subject. Thanks on behalf of my friend... Regards, Ronald
RE: New Mbox 3
Hello Scott, It seems the new Mbox drivers are not compatible with the previous models. This is what's written on the Avid download page: The new Avid Pro Tools Mbox Family products (Mbox Mini, Mbox, Mbox Pro) announced on September 14, 2010 ship with Pro Tools LE 8.0.4 for Mac and Windows. Although the Mac and Windows drivers for the Mbox Mini, Mbox, and Mbox Pro are automatically installed with Pro Tools LE when installing from the Pro Tools LE 8.0.4 DVD, the standalone installers for these drivers are available for download on the website. The control panels for the new Pro Tools Mbox Family do not require installation of Pro Tools or connection of the Mbox device to view or configure. If the Mbox control panel is already installed on your system, click the About button to view the Package version. Once installed, you can find the control panel in System Preferences (Mac) or Start Menu/All Programs/Avid (Windows) Current Versions/Standalone Installers Mbox Pro v1.0.8 for Mac OS X standalone installer Mbox Pro v1.0.10 for Windows standalone installer Link View Available Downloads Please Note: These drivers and control panels are only for the new Pro Tools Mbox Family (third generation). They are not for the Mbox 2 (second generation) family or the original Mbox (first generation). Pro Tools Mbox Family Standalone Installers and Driver Updates Link Pro Tools Mbox Mini Drivers Link Pro Tools Mbox Drivers Link Pro Tools Mbox Pro Drivers (this page)
RE: New Mbox 3
Yeah that's what I also thought, but couldn't download anything. You have to be registered I guess. Can I register without some sort of license? Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Scott Chesworth Verzonden: zondag 10 oktober 2010 14:03 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: New Mbox 3 Hi, Well that's semi-bad news. From what's written though, it looks like you could install the driver for the interface that you're considering purchasing and investigate the control pannel without it being present. It won't answer the question of whether these drivers perform any better, but you'd at least be able to be sure that the control pannels were accessible before you buy. That, combined with the 14 day return polacy many places run should get you up and running? Scott On 10/10/10, RvR pa...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hello Scott, It seems the new Mbox drivers are not compatible with the previous models. This is what's written on the Avid download page: The new Avid Pro Tools Mbox Family products (Mbox Mini, Mbox, Mbox Pro) announced on September 14, 2010 ship with Pro Tools LE 8.0.4 for Mac and Windows. Although the Mac and Windows drivers for the Mbox Mini, Mbox, and Mbox Pro are automatically installed with Pro Tools LE when installing from the Pro Tools LE 8.0.4 DVD, the standalone installers for these drivers are available for download on the website. The control panels for the new Pro Tools Mbox Family do not require installation of Pro Tools or connection of the Mbox device to view or configure. If the Mbox control panel is already installed on your system, click the About button to view the Package version. Once installed, you can find the control panel in System Preferences (Mac) or Start Menu/All Programs/Avid (Windows) Current Versions/Standalone Installers Mbox Pro v1.0.8 for Mac OS X standalone installer Mbox Pro v1.0.10 for Windows standalone installer Link View Available Downloads Please Note: These drivers and control panels are only for the new Pro Tools Mbox Family (third generation). They are not for the Mbox 2 (second generation) family or the original Mbox (first generation). Pro Tools Mbox Family Standalone Installers and Driver Updates Link Pro Tools Mbox Mini Drivers Link Pro Tools Mbox Drivers Link Pro Tools Mbox Pro Drivers (this page)
New Mbox 3
Hi guys! Well now my brand new Mac Pro is in da house I am shopping for an audio interface. I thought I knew after quite some reading I would get a M-Audio Profire with PT M-Powered, but read some disturbing things about the software drivers last week. Under Windows 7 running Sonar that is, which I am also planning to do via bootcamp. Unstable and pretty unaccessible, anyone else experiences with it? Scott wrote some while back on this list the drivers of the Mboxes were pretty lousy as well under Windows 7, but were they accessible with Jaws I am wondering. Now the new Avid Mboxes 3 are out and Avid themselves say they work with almost all 3rd party daw software including Sonar. The drivers seem also to be completely rewritten. Has anyone heard or read anything on the subject already? Tia! Ronald
RE: Best hdds configuration running Win7 and OSX on Mac Pro
Hai Frank, I won't be buying any additional mechanical drives from Apple, much too expensive like you said. The ssd ones are on the other hand equally priced as online retailers. Unfortunately for the Mac Pro's you can only choose an 512gb, which is a little too much for my taste. So the ssd's I will be buying later on. 128gb should be enough for each OS including programs and samples I think, but what is best to do: getting two 128gb ssd's or one 256gb and then split it? You say: I forgot to mention that you can mount to ssd in each 3.5 bay but you'd have to add a sata controller for more ports.What do you mean by that? Do I need another sata controller when putting two ssd's in the Pro? And you wrote when sharing samples across os's, in which fileformat should the disk be? I am wondering if for example the virtual instrument Superior Drummer from Toontrack, which is hybrid for use with Windows and MacOSX, can share one library of samples? And or do I need two licenses for that? We cannot call eachother, I am in Europe;-) Thanks for your feedback! Cheers, Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Frank Carmickle Verzonden: vrijdag 3 september 2010 22:16 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: Best hdds configuration running Win7 and OSX on Mac Pro Hi Ron On Sep 3, 2010, at 11:46 AM, RvR wrote: Hi, Finally decided to order a new Mac Pro this weekend. I am not sure how to configure the harddisks though. Would like to hear what you guys think. Very cool! Here is the situation: Plan to run Windows 7 with Sonar, Sound Forge and the likes besides the OSX stuff like Pro Tools and so forth. After reading many old messages from Bryan Smart about ssd hdds I will get some of those probably. When I do must I install Windows and OSX each on seperate ssds? I know you can split a hd into two for both OS's, but is this wise? Apple offers a 512gb ssd, but comes at an hefty pricetag. Have no If it were me buying the machine I would buy it with the idea in mind that I would add the extra drives myself. Apple charges a lot for harddrives. I just went and looked. The quad core config is $150 for a second 1tb hard drive. That's twice as much as you can buy one for from any reasonable retailer. They charge $300 for a 2tb model, which is again twice as much as most other places. If you are comfortable installing hard disks then you can save youself quite a bit of money. A 128gb ssd goes for $300 -$350 US and 2tb 7200 drives go for $150 US. I would buy a 128gb ssd for my system disk and two 2tb drives for audio. I'd use the 1tb drive that Apple put in the mac pro to put finished projects. I'd probably find a way to compress my finished projects in to flacs or alacs. I'd still probably buy an external drive to backup the finished projects. clear idea how big the seperate ssd's eventually should be. Got some big sample libraries like Superior Drummer and Omnisphere besides all the Sonar stuff. No clue how big the Pro Tools side of things will be. And can I put the programs, samples and instruments all on that same ssd? Cause I read somewhere the samples should be on another disk as well as the audio does. You should be able to put the sample libraries on the same ssd as your OS. If you were plaing to share them across OS's then maybe you'd want to grab a second small ssd, like a 64gb. I forgot to mention that you can mount to ssd in each 3.5 bay but you'd have to add a sata controller for more ports. Oh and you could add a 5.25 hotswap drive cage in one of the front bays. This way you could swap in and out up to four 2.5 drives at a time. I don't mean to overwelme you with all the options but you should know all the possibilities. Hope this helps. I don't mind chatting with you about this on the phone if you'd like. Take care --FC
Best hdds configuration running Win7 and OSX on Mac Pro
Hi, Finally decided to order a new Mac Pro this weekend. I am not sure how to configure the harddisks though. Would like to hear what you guys think. Here is the situation: Plan to run Windows 7 with Sonar, Sound Forge and the likes besides the OSX stuff like Pro Tools and so forth. After reading many old messages from Bryan Smart about ssd hdds I will get some of those probably. When I do must I install Windows and OSX each on seperate ssds? I know you can split a hd into two for both OS's, but is this wise? Apple offers a 512gb ssd, but comes at an hefty pricetag. Have no clear idea how big the seperate ssd's eventually should be. Got some big sample libraries like Superior Drummer and Omnisphere besides all the Sonar stuff. No clue how big the Pro Tools side of things will be. And can I put the programs, samples and instruments all on that same ssd? Cause I read somewhere the samples should be on another disk as well as the audio does. Thanks in advance! Ronald
RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered
Thanks guys, your input is well received. Cheers, Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Scott Chesworth Verzonden: maandag 30 augustus 2010 19:56 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered An extra note of caution I'd add here, in my experience the ASIO drivers for the Avid interfaces I tried were hideous. This was version 7.0 of the standalone drivers running on XP SP3, using an Mbox, the I/O of a 002, and an Mbox2Pro. The two DAWs I tried were Sonar Producer 7, 8.0, and 8.5, as well as various versions of Reaper 3x. Found the drivers/interfaces to be pretty tempramental in these environments on what had always proved to be a solid system up until then. Notably, there was no support for multiple processor cores in the version of the drivers I tried, and in a beast like Sonar that sucked. For versatility, I'd say you'd want to be sending your money to M-Audio. You can't be the only person who's wanted this flexibility though, so keep researching and tread a path well trodden wherever you can to avoid unexpected conflicts or quirks. Hth Scott On 8/30/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, all Avid interfaces will work with third party apps purely as interfaces. The issue is with the control surfaces not being useable. In other words, an MBox will work fine with any dAW but a Digi 003 will only work as an interface but not as a control surface. Using the M-Audio stuff, of course, allows one to utilize the control surface with other DAWs because they're a little more generic in that sense. Yeah, I see that the PCI stuff with M-Audio has driver issues, apparently. Slau On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:59 PM, RvR wrote: After what I found on the Digidesign / Avid / M-Audio sites I think all M-Audio audio interfaces, be it usb, firewire or pci, are all compatible with Pro Tools M-Powered. The problem lies however with the pci-express slots of the Mac Pro's. See below for detailed info. I have to choose btw for the M-Powered version because I also want to run Sonar on Windows and that isn't possible with the Digidesign hardware if I am not mistaken. From the M-Audio site: Knowledge Base Knowledge Base Knowledge Base Apple Intel Mac Pro, DualCore PowerMac G5, and 10.6 Snow Leopard compatibility Q: Will the Delta Series and Revolution Series drivers be updated for Intel based Mac's or Apple's new Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6) operating system? Can I use a Delta Series or Revolution Series PCI card in a new Mac Pro or DualCore PowerMac G5? A: No, there will be no drivers that support Intel Based Mac's or 10.6 Snow Leopard. OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is only supported on Intel based Mac's; it does not support Power PC Macs. The new Intel based Mac Pro desktop computers, as well as the latest generation DualCore PowerMac G5's, have Link PCI-Express slots, and not PCI or PCI-X (Like the Delta/Revo Series cards). Not only are the data rates on PCI-Express different from PCI/PCI-X, but PCI-Express uses serial data transfers versus PCI/PCI-X transferring its data in a parallel fashion. For these reasons, a PCI-Express type motherboard connector (or slot) is physically different from a PCI or PCI-X type connector. Therefore a PCI-Express adapter will not physically fit in a PCI or PCI-X slot, and vice-versa. This is true regardless of the adapter card's manufacturer. All of our current Bezochte link USB and FireWire interfaces are compatible with the new Intel Based Mac Pro and late model DualCore PowerMac G5 computers, as well as OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. From the Apple site, the pci specs of the current Mac Pros: PCI Express expansion Three open full-length PCI Express expansion slots 6 One PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot Two PCI Express 2.0 x4 slots All slots provide mechanical support for 16-lane cards 300W combined maximum for all PCI Express slots -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Slau Halatyn Verzonden: maandag 30 augustus 2010 17:11 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered The PCI cards used in Pro Tools TDM systems have processors that handle the CPU for audio. The LE systems use FireWire and require no PCI cards. I'm not up on the M-Audio side of things but you can check with any Avid distributor or their web site to see which interfaces are supported with M-Powered if you want to go the M-Audio route. Slau On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:39 AM, RvR wrote: Now you got me confused Bryan... Are you saying M-Audio pci interfaces such as the Delta 1010, Delta66, Delta44, Audiophile192 and Audiophile2496 when put in a Mac Pro won't work with the M-Powered version of Pro Tools? Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Bryan
RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered
Now you got me confused Bryan... Are you saying M-Audio pci interfaces such as the Delta 1010, Delta66, Delta44, Audiophile192 and Audiophile2496 when put in a Mac Pro won't work with the M-Powered version of Pro Tools? Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Bryan Smart Verzonden: maandag 30 augustus 2010 7:32 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro Those PCI and PCIE interfaces are only for Pro Tools HD. They obviously only run on a Mac Pro, though it is possible to run them on some specific models of older Macbooks along with some external enclosures. The USB and Firewire interfaces work with both Pro Tools MPowered and LE, but different ones work with each. M-Audio interfaces work with MPowered. The various Avid/Digi USB/Firewire interfaces work with LE. You can run MPowered or LE on a MacBook, IMac, or Mac Pro. However, when you run them on a MacBook, you give up a lot of performance in exchange for the portability. When you run them on an iMac, you save a lot of money over the Mac Pro, but there are lots of restrictions on what gear you can use together. Some of those restrictions are changing, though. The newest 27 inch iMac comes with two hard drives: a solid state drive and a mechanical drive. You can install the OS and Pro Tools on the solid state disk for performance, and use the mechanical drive as your data/audio drive. That still leaves both the Firewire and USB ports free for an interface. You could, for example, attach a ProjectMix I/O audio interface/control surface and run MPowered, or attach a 003 audio interface/control surface and run LE. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RvR Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:07 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro Hi Frank, You only mention firewire and usb m-audio interfaces for use with m-powered pro tools, but there are plenty of pci ones from m-audio. Do those not work with the m-powered version of pro tools? One of the main reasons to buy a Mac Pro is the use of pci cards. I only need an audio interface for the moment. Although the choice for a Mac Pro may be obvious for real power users, but I ain't that just yet. Both the iMac and Mac Pro have their pros and cons. Regards, Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Frank Carmickle Verzonden: donderdag 26 augustus 2010 22:28 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro Hi On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, RvR wrote: Hello, Can't seem to make the choice between an iMac and a Mac Pro for use with Pro Tools and such. Having great difficulties with making decisions the last couple of months...LOL I cannot ask you guys cause you don't know what I am going to do with it. But maybe you can shed some light on some things which hopefully can help me make my decision. First I was wondering if a Mac Pro also needs a monitor connected to function properly and if so does it has to be turned on also? I can't answer this directly but my experience with a Mac mini shows that yes you need a monitor attached but it does not need to be powered on. Secondly, I presume using a pci audio interface with a Mac Pro is the obvious way. Or is firewire also an option? For protools specifically you have hd, which is a pci/pci-e card, 003 or the supported m Audio devices which are firewire or usb. In both cases (external for iMac) which audio interfaces would you recommend? I don't need tons of ins and outs, just a midrange solution. Brian recommended one of the MAudio boxes before but can't remember what that was. Do you want something with a built in control surface? If so the 003 is probably a good fit. I probably gonna choose between an iMac i7 and a Mac Pro quad core xeon 2.8. Brian has recommended the iMac to a few people on this list. I lean towards the Mac pro because you can put pci/pci-e expansion cards in it. Also you can easily upgrade the memory and hard drives. You can also put four hd's in the pro. Maybe I will have some more questions later on. I don't mind answering questions. This stuff seems to come up a lot on the list. Maybe we should put up a page about the different hardware choices? Hope that helps --FC
RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered
After what I found on the Digidesign / Avid / M-Audio sites I think all M-Audio audio interfaces, be it usb, firewire or pci, are all compatible with Pro Tools M-Powered. The problem lies however with the pci-express slots of the Mac Pro's. See below for detailed info. I have to choose btw for the M-Powered version because I also want to run Sonar on Windows and that isn't possible with the Digidesign hardware if I am not mistaken. From the M-Audio site: Knowledge Base Knowledge Base Knowledge Base Apple Intel Mac Pro, DualCore PowerMac G5, and 10.6 Snow Leopard compatibility Q: Will the Delta Series and Revolution Series drivers be updated for Intel based Mac's or Apple's new Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6) operating system? Can I use a Delta Series or Revolution Series PCI card in a new Mac Pro or DualCore PowerMac G5? A: No, there will be no drivers that support Intel Based Mac's or 10.6 Snow Leopard. OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is only supported on Intel based Mac's; it does not support Power PC Macs. The new Intel based Mac Pro desktop computers, as well as the latest generation DualCore PowerMac G5's, have Link PCI-Express slots, and not PCI or PCI-X (Like the Delta/Revo Series cards). Not only are the data rates on PCI-Express different from PCI/PCI-X, but PCI-Express uses serial data transfers versus PCI/PCI-X transferring its data in a parallel fashion. For these reasons, a PCI-Express type motherboard connector (or slot) is physically different from a PCI or PCI-X type connector. Therefore a PCI-Express adapter will not physically fit in a PCI or PCI-X slot, and vice-versa. This is true regardless of the adapter card's manufacturer. All of our current Bezochte link USB and FireWire interfaces are compatible with the new Intel Based Mac Pro and late model DualCore PowerMac G5 computers, as well as OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. From the Apple site, the pci specs of the current Mac Pros: PCI Express expansion Three open full-length PCI Express expansion slots 6 One PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot Two PCI Express 2.0 x4 slots All slots provide mechanical support for 16-lane cards 300W combined maximum for all PCI Express slots -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Slau Halatyn Verzonden: maandag 30 augustus 2010 17:11 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered The PCI cards used in Pro Tools TDM systems have processors that handle the CPU for audio. The LE systems use FireWire and require no PCI cards. I'm not up on the M-Audio side of things but you can check with any Avid distributor or their web site to see which interfaces are supported with M-Powered if you want to go the M-Audio route. Slau On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:39 AM, RvR wrote: Now you got me confused Bryan... Are you saying M-Audio pci interfaces such as the Delta 1010, Delta66, Delta44, Audiophile192 and Audiophile2496 when put in a Mac Pro won't work with the M-Powered version of Pro Tools? Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Bryan Smart Verzonden: maandag 30 augustus 2010 7:32 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro Those PCI and PCIE interfaces are only for Pro Tools HD. They obviously only run on a Mac Pro, though it is possible to run them on some specific models of older Macbooks along with some external enclosures. The USB and Firewire interfaces work with both Pro Tools MPowered and LE, but different ones work with each. M-Audio interfaces work with MPowered. The various Avid/Digi USB/Firewire interfaces work with LE. You can run MPowered or LE on a MacBook, IMac, or Mac Pro. However, when you run them on a MacBook, you give up a lot of performance in exchange for the portability. When you run them on an iMac, you save a lot of money over the Mac Pro, but there are lots of restrictions on what gear you can use together. Some of those restrictions are changing, though. The newest 27 inch iMac comes with two hard drives: a solid state drive and a mechanical drive. You can install the OS and Pro Tools on the solid state disk for performance, and use the mechanical drive as your data/audio drive. That still leaves both the Firewire and USB ports free for an interface. You could, for example, attach a ProjectMix I/O audio interface/control surface and run MPowered, or attach a 003 audio interface/control surface and run LE. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RvR Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 7:07 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro Hi Frank, You only mention firewire and usb m-audio interfaces for use with m-powered pro tools, but there are plenty of pci ones from m-audio
RE: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro
Hi Frank, You only mention firewire and usb m-audio interfaces for use with m-powered pro tools, but there are plenty of pci ones from m-audio. Do those not work with the m-powered version of pro tools? One of the main reasons to buy a Mac Pro is the use of pci cards. I only need an audio interface for the moment. Although the choice for a Mac Pro may be obvious for real power users, but I ain't that just yet. Both the iMac and Mac Pro have their pros and cons. Regards, Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Frank Carmickle Verzonden: donderdag 26 augustus 2010 22:28 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro Hi On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, RvR wrote: Hello, Can't seem to make the choice between an iMac and a Mac Pro for use with Pro Tools and such. Having great difficulties with making decisions the last couple of months...LOL I cannot ask you guys cause you don't know what I am going to do with it. But maybe you can shed some light on some things which hopefully can help me make my decision. First I was wondering if a Mac Pro also needs a monitor connected to function properly and if so does it has to be turned on also? I can't answer this directly but my experience with a Mac mini shows that yes you need a monitor attached but it does not need to be powered on. Secondly, I presume using a pci audio interface with a Mac Pro is the obvious way. Or is firewire also an option? For protools specifically you have hd, which is a pci/pci-e card, 003 or the supported m Audio devices which are firewire or usb. In both cases (external for iMac) which audio interfaces would you recommend? I don't need tons of ins and outs, just a midrange solution. Brian recommended one of the MAudio boxes before but can't remember what that was. Do you want something with a built in control surface? If so the 003 is probably a good fit. I probably gonna choose between an iMac i7 and a Mac Pro quad core xeon 2.8. Brian has recommended the iMac to a few people on this list. I lean towards the Mac pro because you can put pci/pci-e expansion cards in it. Also you can easily upgrade the memory and hard drives. You can also put four hd's in the pro. Maybe I will have some more questions later on. I don't mind answering questions. This stuff seems to come up a lot on the list. Maybe we should put up a page about the different hardware choices? Hope that helps --FC
PCI audio interface M-Powered and monitor for Mac Pro
Hello, Can't seem to make the choice between an iMac and a Mac Pro for use with Pro Tools and such. Having great difficulties with making decisions the last couple of months...LOL I cannot ask you guys cause you don't know what I am going to do with it. But maybe you can shed some light on some things which hopefully can help me make my decision. First I was wondering if a Mac Pro also needs a monitor connected to function properly and if so does it has to be turned on also? Secondly, I presume using a pci audio interface with a Mac Pro is the obvious way. Or is firewire also an option? In both cases (external for iMac) which audio interfaces would you recommend? I don't need tons of ins and outs, just a midrange solution. I probably gonna choose between an iMac i7 and a Mac Pro quad core xeon 2.8. Maybe I will have some more questions later on. Thanks, Ronald
RE: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop
Anybody know how to download this mp3 ? I can only play it in my browser. Using a download manager doesn't work either. Thanks! Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Christopher Wright Verzonden: zondag 18 juli 2010 22:13 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Fw: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop - Original Message - From: Patrick Perdue borrisina...@gmail.com To: midi...@midimag.org Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop Hello all: I'm not on the PTAccess mailing list, so feel free to forward this message there. On Monday, July 12, Slau presented the basics of accessibility with ProTools LE 8.04 on Mac OSX at ACB's 49th annual conference and convention. A recorded copy, minus the first few seconds, since I turned my recorder on late, can be downloaded from here: http://www.pdaudio.net/ProToolsWorkshop.mp3 I know Gord recorded this session as well, and his copy may be better than mine, but here it is anyway. Enjoy. To unsubscribe, send a message to: midimag-unsubscr...@midimag.org http://www.midimag.org/
RE: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop
Yes got it. Christopher, many thanks! Regards, Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Christopher Wright Verzonden: vrijdag 20 augustus 2010 18:54 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop Try this link. http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/o9fimt - Original Message - From: RvR pa...@xs4all.nl To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop Hey Scott, Thanks, but I am still using my old pc...will order a Mac any day now for that matter.. The usual rightmouse click etc don't work. And after hitting the link in the email with enter gives a webpage with nothing on it. Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Scott Chesworth Verzonden: vrijdag 20 augustus 2010 18:33 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop Hi Ronald, Assuming you're on Mac, try hitting Option+enter on the link to the file. This keystroke forces Safari to download content instead of stream it. HTH Scott On 8/20/10, RvR pa...@xs4all.nl wrote: Anybody know how to download this mp3 ? I can only play it in my browser. Using a download manager doesn't work either. Thanks! Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Christopher Wright Verzonden: zondag 18 juli 2010 22:13 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Fw: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop - Original Message - From: Patrick Perdue borrisina...@gmail.com To: midi...@midimag.org Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: [midi-mag] Slau's FIA ProTools 8.04 workshop Hello all: I'm not on the PTAccess mailing list, so feel free to forward this message there. On Monday, July 12, Slau presented the basics of accessibility with ProTools LE 8.04 on Mac OSX at ACB's 49th annual conference and convention. A recorded copy, minus the first few seconds, since I turned my recorder on late, can be downloaded from here: http://www.pdaudio.net/ProToolsWorkshop.mp3 I know Gord recorded this session as well, and his copy may be better than mine, but here it is anyway. Enjoy. To unsubscribe, send a message to: midimag-unsubscr...@midimag.org http://www.midimag.org/
RE: New Macs out. Any thoughts?
Thanks Frank, sounds good. Isn't a 64gb ssd not a bit tight also? Although all audio files go on a different disk, all the programs go on the startup ssd one i presume? Or should I install Pro Tools and such on yet another disk? How does your current machine look like btw? Have a wonderful weekend! Ronald _ Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Frank Carmickle Verzonden: vrijdag 30 juli 2010 18:13 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: New Macs out. Any thoughts? Hey Ron On Jul 30, 2010, at 11:46 AM, RvR wrote: Hi Frank, Well, the 5k model is way above my budget. Don't think I will need the processing power anyway. The expandebility I like very much of the Pro's. When I go for a Pro it will probably be the basic model with the single Xeon cpu at 2.8GHz, 3gb ram and 1 tb hd. But I am wondering why there are only Xeon cpus in the Mac Pros, since they are server/workstation units is it not? I read somewhere the power of the Xeons will only be unleashed when pairing them by the two. The reason why I ask this is how the speed and power of the single Xeon model compare to the i7 in the iMac. Well you don't usually find to many benchmarks between these two types of processors. My initial thought is that the i7 might give you a little bit more performance on some benchmarks. Overall I think they'd perform similarly on real world work loads with a little better performance per watt from the xeon. That is my other option you know. Another thing. Can you buy any sata harddisk out there and put it in the Mac Pro? No need for special ones? And later a faster cpu is also doable I guess? Yes and yes. If your looking to use the pro as a recording rig then you will want a least one extra drive and 6 gb of memory. I would recommend a solid state system disk. I'd say 32gb would be a little tight but a 64gb would do alright. Take care --FC
RE: New Macs out. Any thoughts?
Hi Frank, Well, the 5k model is way above my budget. Don't think I will need the processing power anyway. The expandebility I like very much of the Pro's. When I go for a Pro it will probably be the basic model with the single Xeon cpu at 2.8GHz, 3gb ram and 1 tb hd. But I am wondering why there are only Xeon cpus in the Mac Pros, since they are server/workstation units is it not? I read somewhere the power of the Xeons will only be unleashed when pairing them by the two. The reason why I ask this is how the speed and power of the single Xeon model compare to the i7 in the iMac. That is my other option you know. Another thing. Can you buy any sata harddisk out there and put it in the Mac Pro? No need for special ones? And later a faster cpu is also doable I guess? cheers, Ronald _ Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Frank Carmickle Verzonden: donderdag 29 juli 2010 19:57 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: New Macs out. Any thoughts? Hello Ron On Jul 29, 2010, at 9:43 AM, RvR wrote: Hello all, Don't know if this is off topic, since Pro Tools runs on Apple hardware I hopit isn't. As of last sunday the new iMacs are available and the new Mac Pro's are announced as well and will be on sale next month. The Mac pro is still the best option. You can put up to four HDs in it. You can add pci express cards for firewire or protools hd. You can always upgrade the memory and the CPUs. Last I looked, about a month ago, the six core xeons were going for $995 a pop. So A 5k price tag isn's half bad. --FC
RE: Another stupid question...new Mac Mini capable
Hi, What is TI Firewire? My sighted brother has a current i7 iMac but isn't into music creation and I think doesn't use Firewire. Is there some way I can check with him anyway? Like to help if I can. Cheers, Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Cameron Verzonden: donderdag 17 juni 2010 5:35 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: Another stupid question...new Mac Mini capable Hi. Speaking of Imacs, do we know if Apple plans to put TI firewire in any of the Imacs when the line is refreshed? Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:33 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another stupid question...new Mac Mini capable Yeh. It is particularly confusing to blind people when I tell them that the 27 inch iMac is probably the best value for high performance. I know that they all think but I don't need a 27 inch monitor. The thing is, though, they will need some sort of monitor , if not because a Mac won't run right without one, there is the benefit of making it possible for others in your session to see what you're doing. 27 inches seems a bit excessive, but, since Apple sells many of the exact same panels, rather than many different monitor options, they get the panels at a good price. The LED panels in the iMacs are extremely good quality. I wouldn't suggest that a blind person buy such a display separately, but, when included with an iMac, you're getting a really good deal. Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RvR Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Another stupid question...new Mac Mini capable Hi Brian, Also came to the conclusion that an iMac would be a better choice. I always refused to pay for a monitor thats attached to the iMac which I don't even use, but it's the best option I think now for all the reasons you have mentioned too. The new Mac Minis are more expensive than before. The cheapest is now 800 euro and the server even more than 1100 euro. That is even more dollars. Pretty hefty prices. Regards, Ronald -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] Namens Bryan Smart Verzonden: woensdag 16 juni 2010 21:18 Aan: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: Another stupid question...new Mac Mini capable Hi. I anticipate that many people will have this thought, wanting to use the Mini, since it seems like the most inexpensive Mac. It isn't a good idea, in most cases. Mostly, the cases where it is a good idea involve you already owning one. I wouldn't buy one new for the purpose of running Pro Tools. The Mini can be an inexpensive computer. You can get one for about $700. Just add your own keyboard, monitor, and, optionally, speakers, and you're ready to go with an inexpensive Mac. That's particularly a great deal if you already have an extra monitor, keyboard, and set of speakers. However, as has been pointed out, this is only the base model. It has limitations, such as only 2GB of memory, and a single laptop-type hard drive running at 5400 RPM. As has also been pointed out, you can upgrade the Mini. Apple has a second model, intended for use as a small server, that includes 2 7200 RPM hard drives. That would help a lot for our purposes. However, that model starts at $1,000. You'll need to buy your own copy of OS X, s adds about $30. In order to provide the second hard drive in this model, the optical drive has been removed. So, you'll need to purchase an external optical drive $50 to $100, depending on what you get. This Mini comes with 4GB of memory, which will be fine for tracking/mixing. If you plan to sequence a lot with softsynths, though, you'll want 8GB, which adds another $400 to the price. You still need a monitor, keyboard, and speakers. So, a Mini, with dual 7200 RPM drives, your own copy of OS X, external optical drive, a basic LCD monitor, full Apple keyboard (you won't want to use a PC keyboard with Pro Tools), and basic multimedia speakers will cost about $1,300. If you upgraded the memory to 8GB, that increases the price to about $1,700. What happened to that $700 computer? Upgrades. So, if you'd need to spend $1,700, to pimp your Mini, what else could you get for that price? For $1,700, you can get a 21 inch iMac. It still will use a Core Duo processor, but will run at 3Ghz, compared to 2.6Ghz in the Mini. It has 8GB of memory. It only has a single internal drive, but it is a full desktop hd running at 7200 RPM, and is 1TB, twice the size of the Mini's largest laptop drives. The monitor is built-in to every iMac, and you're getting an extremely high quality 21 inch LED display, not a cheesy $100 craptastic LCD from the local computer store. An Apple keyboard comes standard
Functions in PT like Sound Forge
Hi all, Perhaps a bit weird (read beginner) query, but anyone can tell me what tasks of Sound Forge can be done in Pro Tools? I don't want to use Windows anymore you see. I know Wavelab is coming to Mac, but will take some time before it will be accessible, if ever. Thanks! Regards, Ronald
