Re: Python 3.7+ cannot print unicode characters when output is redirected to file - is this a bug?

[Eryk Sun]

On 11/13/22, Jessica Smith <12jessicasmit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Consider the following code ran in Powershell or cmd.exe:
>
> $ python -c "print('└')"
> └
>
> $ python -c "print('└')" > test_file.txt
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 1, in 
>   File "C:\Program Files\Python38\lib\encodings\cp1252.py", line 19, in
> encode
> return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_table)[0]
> UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2514' in
> position 0: character maps to 

If your applications and existing data files are compatible with using
UTF-8, then in Windows 10+ you can modify the administrative regional
settings in the control panel to force using UTF-8. In this case,
GetACP() and GetOEMCP() will return CP_UTF8 (65001), and the reserved
code page constants CP_ACP (0),  CP_OEMCP (1), CP_MACCP (2), and
CP_THREAD_ACP (3) will use CP_UTF8.

You can override this on a per-application basis via the
ActiveCodePage setting in the manifest:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/sbscs/application-manifests#activecodepage

In Windows 10, this setting only supports "UTF-8". In Windows 11, it
also supports "legacy" to allow old applications to run on a system
that's configured to use UTF-8.  Setting an explicit locale is also
supported in Windows 11, such as "en-US", with fallback to UTF-8 if
the given locale has no legacy code page.

Note that setting the system to use UTF-8 also affects the host
process for console sessions (i.e. conhost.exe or openconsole.exe),
since it defaults to using the OEM code page (UTF-8 in this case).
Unfortunately, a legacy read from the console host does not support
reading non-ASCII text as UTF-8. For example:

>>> os.read(0, 6)
SPĀM
b'SP\x00M\r\n'

This is a trivial bug in the console host, which stems from the fact
that UTF-8 is a multibyte encoding (1-4 bytes per code), but for some
reason the console team at Microsoft still hasn't fixed it. You can
use chcp.com to set the console's input and output code pages to
something other than UTF-8 if you have to read non-ASCII input in a
legacy console app. By default, this problem doesn't affect Python's
sys.stdin, which internally uses wide-character ReadConsoleW() with
the system's native text encoding, UTF-16LE.
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Re: Python 3.7+ cannot print unicode characters when output is redirected to file - is this a bug?

[Thomas Passin]

On 11/13/2022 9:49 AM, Jessica Smith wrote:

Consider the following code ran in Powershell or cmd.exe:

$ python -c "print('└')"
└

$ python -c "print('└')" > test_file.txt
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "", line 1, in 
   File "C:\Program Files\Python38\lib\encodings\cp1252.py", line 19, in encode
 return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_table)[0]
UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2514' in
position 0: character maps to 

Is this a known limitation of Windows + Unicode? I understand that
using -x utf8 would fix this, or modifying various environment
variables. But is this expected for a standard Python installation on
Windows?

Jessica



This also fails with the same error:

$ python -c "print('└')" |clip
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Re: Python 3.7+ cannot print unicode characters when output is redirected to file - is this a bug?

[Barry]

> On 13 Nov 2022, at 14:52, Jessica Smith <12jessicasmit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Consider the following code ran in Powershell or cmd.exe:
> 
> $ python -c "print('└')"
> └
> 
> $ python -c "print('└')" > test_file.txt
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "", line 1, in 
>  File "C:\Program Files\Python38\lib\encodings\cp1252.py", line 19, in encode
>return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_table)[0]
> UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2514' in
> position 0: character maps to 
> 
> Is this a known limitation of Windows + Unicode? I understand that
> using -x utf8 would fix this, or modifying various environment
> variables. But is this expected for a standard Python installation on
> Windows?

Your other thread has a reply that explained this.
It is a problem with windows and character sets.
You have to set things up to allow Unicode to work.

Barry

> 
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Python 3.7+ cannot print unicode characters when output is redirected to file - is this a bug?

[Jessica Smith]

Consider the following code ran in Powershell or cmd.exe:

$ python -c "print('└')"
└

$ python -c "print('└')" > test_file.txt
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "", line 1, in 
  File "C:\Program Files\Python38\lib\encodings\cp1252.py", line 19, in encode
return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_table)[0]
UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2514' in
position 0: character maps to 

Is this a known limitation of Windows + Unicode? I understand that
using -x utf8 would fix this, or modifying various environment
variables. But is this expected for a standard Python installation on
Windows?

Jessica
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[Python-announce] ANN: unicode 2.9

[garabik-news-2005-05]

unicode is a simple python command line utility that displays
properties for a given unicode character, or searches
unicode database for a given name.

It was written with Linux in mind, but should work almost everywhere
(including MS Windows and MacOSX), UTF-8 console is recommended.

˙pɹɐpuɐʇs əpoɔı̣uՈ əɥʇ ɟo əsn pəɔuɐʌpɐ
puɐ səldı̣ɔuı̣ɹd əɥʇ ɓuı̣ʇɐɹʇsuoɯəp looʇ ɔı̣ʇɔɐpı̣p ʇuəlləɔxə uɐ sı̣ ʇI
˙sʇuı̣odəpoɔ ʇuəɹəɟɟı̣p ʎləʇəldɯoɔ ɓuı̣sn əlı̣ɥʍ 'sɥdʎlɓ ɟo ɯɐəɹʇs ɹɐlı̣ɯı̣s
ʎllɐnsı̣ʌ  oʇuı̣ ʇxəʇ əɥʇ ʇɹəʌuoɔ oʇ pɹɐpuɐʇs əpoɔı̣uՈ əɥʇ ɟo ɹəʍod llnɟ
əɥʇ sʇı̣oldxə ʇɐɥʇ 'ʎʇı̣lı̣ʇn ,əpoɔɐɹɐd, oslɐ suı̣ɐʇuoɔ əɓɐʞɔɐd əɥ⊥

Changes since previous versions:
 * better handling of changes in data files

URL: http://kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk/~garabik/software/unicode.html

License: GPL v3

Installation: pip install unicode

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[Python-announce] ANN: unicode 2.9

[garabik-news-2005-05]

unicode is a simple python command line utility that displays
properties for a given unicode character, or searches
unicode database for a given name.

It was written with Linux in mind, but should work almost everywhere
(including MS Windows and MacOSX), UTF-8 console is recommended.

˙pɹɐpuɐʇs əpoɔı̣uՈ əɥʇ ɟo əsn pəɔuɐʌpɐ
puɐ səldı̣ɔuı̣ɹd əɥʇ ɓuı̣ʇɐɹʇsuoɯəp looʇ ɔı̣ʇɔɐpı̣p ʇuəlləɔxə uɐ sı̣ ʇI
˙sʇuı̣odəpoɔ ʇuəɹəɟɟı̣p ʎləʇəldɯoɔ ɓuı̣sn əlı̣ɥʍ 'sɥdʎlɓ ɟo ɯɐəɹʇs ɹɐlı̣ɯı̣s
ʎllɐnsı̣ʌ  oʇuı̣ ʇxəʇ əɥʇ ʇɹəʌuoɔ oʇ pɹɐpuɐʇs əpoɔı̣uՈ əɥʇ ɟo ɹəʍod llnɟ
əɥʇ sʇı̣oldxə ʇɐɥʇ 'ʎʇı̣lı̣ʇn ,əpoɔɐɹɐd, oslɐ suı̣ɐʇuoɔ əɓɐʞɔɐd əɥ⊥

Changes since previous versions:
 * better handling of changes in data files

URL: http://kassiopeia.juls.savba.sk/~garabik/software/unicode.html

License: GPL v3

Installation: pip install unicode

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Re: Printing Unicode strings in a list

[Chris Angelico]

On Sun, 1 May 2022 at 00:03, Vlastimil Brom  wrote:
> (Even the redundant u prefix from your python2 sample is apparently
> accepted, maybe for compatibility reasons.)

Yes, for compatibility reasons. It wasn't accepted in Python 3.0, but
3.3 re-added it to make porting easier. It doesn't do anything.

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Re: Printing Unicode strings in a list

[Vlastimil Brom]

čt 28. 4. 2022 v 13:33 odesílatel Stephen Tucker
 napsal:
>
> Hi PythonList Members,
>
> Consider the following log from a run of IDLE:
>
> ==
>
> Python 2.7.10 (default, May 23 2015, 09:40:32) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> on win32
> Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information.
> >>> print (u"\u2551")
> ║
> >>> print ([u"\u2551"])
> [u'\u2551']
> >>>
>
> ==
>
> Yes, I am still using Python 2.x - I have good reasons for doing so and
> will be moving to Python 3.x in due course.
>
> I have the following questions arising from the log:
>
> 1. Why does the second print statement not produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?
>
> 2. Should the second print statement produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?
>
> 3. Given that I want to print a list of Unicode strings so that their
> characters are displayed (instead of their Unicode codepoint definitions),
> is there a more Pythonic way of doing it than concatenating them into a
> single string and printing that?
>
> 4. Does Python 3.x exhibit the same behaviour as Python 2.x in this respect?
>
> Thanks in anticipation.
>
> Stephen Tucker.
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Hi,
I'm not sure, whether I am not misunderstanding the 4th question or
the answers to it (it is not clear to me, whether the focus is on
character printing or the quotation marks...);
in either case, in python3 the character glyphs are printed in these
cases, instead of the codepoint number notation, cf.:
==
Python 3.8.10 (tags/v3.8.10:3d8993a, May  3 2021, 11:48:03) [MSC v.1928 64 bit (
AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> print ([u"\u2551"])
['║']
>>>
>>> print([u"\u2551"])
['║']
>>> print("\u2551")
║
>>> print("║")
║
>>> print(repr("\u2551"))
'║'
>>> print(ascii("\u2551"))
'\u2551'
>>>
==

(Even the redundant u prefix from your python2 sample is apparently
accepted, maybe for compatibility reasons.)

hth,
   vbr
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Re: Printing Unicode strings in a list

[Rob Cliffe via Python-list]

On 28/04/2022 14:27, Stephen Tucker wrote:

To Cameron Simpson,

Thanks for your in-depth and helpful reply. I have noted it and will be
giving it close attention when I can.

The main reason why I am still using Python 2.x is that my colleagues are
still using a GIS system that has a Python programmer's interface - and
that interface uses Python 2.x.

The team are moving to an updated version of the system whose Python
interface is Python 3.x.

However, I am expecting to retire over the next 8 months or so, so I do not
need to be concerned with Python 3.x - my successor will be doing that.


Still, if you're feeling noble, you could start the work of making your 
code Python 3 compatible.

Best wishes
Rob Cliffe
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Re: Printing Unicode strings in a list

[Jon Ribbens via Python-list]

On 2022-04-28, Stephen Tucker  wrote:
> Hi PythonList Members,
>
> Consider the following log from a run of IDLE:
>
>==
>
> Python 2.7.10 (default, May 23 2015, 09:40:32) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> on win32
> Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information.
>>>> print (u"\u2551")
> ║
>>>> print ([u"\u2551"])
> [u'\u2551']
>>>>
>
>==
>
> Yes, I am still using Python 2.x - I have good reasons for doing so and
> will be moving to Python 3.x in due course.
>
> I have the following questions arising from the log:
>
> 1. Why does the second print statement not produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?

print(x) implicitly calls str(x) to convert 'x' to a string for output.
lists don't have their own str converter, so fall back to repr instead,
which outputs '[', followed by the repr of each list item separated by
', ', followed by ']'.

> 2. Should the second print statement produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?

There's certainly no obvious reason why it *should*, and pretty decent
reasons why it shouldn't (it would be a hybrid mess of Python-syntax
repr output and raw string output).

> 3. Given that I want to print a list of Unicode strings so that their
> characters are displayed (instead of their Unicode codepoint definitions),
> is there a more Pythonic way of doing it than concatenating them into a
> single string and printing that?

print(' '.join(list_of_strings)) is probably most common. I suppose you
could do print(*list_of_strings) if you like, but I'm not sure I'd call
it "pythonic" as I've never seen anyone do that (that doesn't mean of
course that other people haven't seen it done!) Personally I only tend
to use print() for debugging output.

> 4. Does Python 3.x exhibit the same behaviour as Python 2.x in this respect?

Yes.
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Re: Printing Unicode strings in a list

[Stephen Tucker]

To Cameron Simpson,

Thanks for your in-depth and helpful reply. I have noted it and will be
giving it close attention when I can.

The main reason why I am still using Python 2.x is that my colleagues are
still using a GIS system that has a Python programmer's interface - and
that interface uses Python 2.x.

The team are moving to an updated version of the system whose Python
interface is Python 3.x.

However, I am expecting to retire over the next 8 months or so, so I do not
need to be concerned with Python 3.x - my successor will be doing that.

Stephen.


On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 2:07 PM Cameron Simpson  wrote:

> On 28Apr2022 12:32, Stephen Tucker  wrote:
> >Consider the following log from a run of IDLE:
> >==
> >
> >Python 2.7.10 (default, May 23 2015, 09:40:32) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
> >on win32
> >Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information.
> >>>> print (u"\u2551")
> >║
> >>>> print ([u"\u2551"])
> >[u'\u2551']
> >>>>
> >==
> >
> >Yes, I am still using Python 2.x - I have good reasons for doing so and
> >will be moving to Python 3.x in due course.
>
> Love to hear those reasons. Not suggesting that they are invalid.
>
> >I have the following questions arising from the log:
> >1. Why does the second print statement not produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?
>
> Because print() prints the str() or each of its arguments, and str() of
> a list if the same as its repr(), which is a list of the repr()s of
> every item in the list. Repr of a Unicode string looks like what you
> have in Python 2.
>
> >2. Should the second print statement produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?
>
> Well, to me its behaviour is correct. Do you _want_ to get your Unicode
> glyph? in quotes? That is up to you. But consider: what would be sane
> output if the list contained the string "], [3," ?
>
> >3. Given that I want to print a list of Unicode strings so that their
> >characters are displayed (instead of their Unicode codepoint definitions),
> >is there a more Pythonic way of doing it than concatenating them into a
> >single string and printing that?
>
> You could print them with empty separators:
>
> print(s1, s2, .., sep='')
>
> To do that in Python 2 you need to:
>
> from __future__ import print_function
>
> at the top of your Python file. Then you've have a Python 3 string print
> function. In Python 2, pint is normally a statement and you don't need
> the brackets:
>
> print u"\u2551"
>
> but print() is genuinely better as a function anyway.
>
> >4. Does Python 3.x exhibit the same behaviour as Python 2.x in this
> respect?
>
> Broadly yes, except that all strings are Unicode strings and we don't
> bothing with the leading "u" prefix.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: Printing Unicode strings in a list

[Cameron Simpson]

On 28Apr2022 12:32, Stephen Tucker  wrote:
>Consider the following log from a run of IDLE:
>==
>
>Python 2.7.10 (default, May 23 2015, 09:40:32) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
>on win32
>Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information.
>>>> print (u"\u2551")
>║
>>>> print ([u"\u2551"])
>[u'\u2551']
>>>>
>==
>
>Yes, I am still using Python 2.x - I have good reasons for doing so and
>will be moving to Python 3.x in due course.

Love to hear those reasons. Not suggesting that they are invalid.

>I have the following questions arising from the log:
>1. Why does the second print statement not produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?

Because print() prints the str() or each of its arguments, and str() of 
a list if the same as its repr(), which is a list of the repr()s of 
every item in the list. Repr of a Unicode string looks like what you 
have in Python 2.

>2. Should the second print statement produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?

Well, to me its behaviour is correct. Do you _want_ to get your Unicode 
glyph? in quotes? That is up to you. But consider: what would be sane 
output if the list contained the string "], [3," ?

>3. Given that I want to print a list of Unicode strings so that their
>characters are displayed (instead of their Unicode codepoint definitions),
>is there a more Pythonic way of doing it than concatenating them into a
>single string and printing that?

You could print them with empty separators:

print(s1, s2, .., sep='')

To do that in Python 2 you need to:

from __future__ import print_function

at the top of your Python file. Then you've have a Python 3 string print 
function. In Python 2, pint is normally a statement and you don't need 
the brackets:

print u"\u2551"

but print() is genuinely better as a function anyway.

>4. Does Python 3.x exhibit the same behaviour as Python 2.x in this respect?

Broadly yes, except that all strings are Unicode strings and we don't 
bothing with the leading "u" prefix.

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Printing Unicode strings in a list

[Stephen Tucker]

Hi PythonList Members,

Consider the following log from a run of IDLE:

==

Python 2.7.10 (default, May 23 2015, 09:40:32) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
on win32
Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information.
>>> print (u"\u2551")
║
>>> print ([u"\u2551"])
[u'\u2551']
>>>

==

Yes, I am still using Python 2.x - I have good reasons for doing so and
will be moving to Python 3.x in due course.

I have the following questions arising from the log:

1. Why does the second print statement not produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?

2. Should the second print statement produce [ ║]  or ["║"] ?

3. Given that I want to print a list of Unicode strings so that their
characters are displayed (instead of their Unicode codepoint definitions),
is there a more Pythonic way of doing it than concatenating them into a
single string and printing that?

4. Does Python 3.x exhibit the same behaviour as Python 2.x in this respect?

Thanks in anticipation.

Stephen Tucker.
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