Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Neumann, Andreas]

Hi, 

I wasn't aware either that one can drag and drop from browser to DB
manager. It is certainly not obvious. 

In the case of Geopackage, which is a container for many tables - how
should drag and drop behave? Should it open a dialogue that lets the
user choose which tables he wants to copy? 

I think this needs to be better specified. 

Andreas 

On 2016-12-21 21:32, Even Rouault wrote:

> On mercredi 21 décembre 2016 20:50:45 CET Paolo Cavallini wrote: 
> 
>> Il 21/12/2016 19:35, Even Rouault ha scritto: 
> 
 Errore 3 
> 
 
> 
 non riesco a creare il layer (errore OGR:Failed to open Shapefile 
> 
 
> 
 `dbname='/home/paolo/test.gpkg' key='id' table="province" (geom) 
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> sql=.shp'. 
> 
>>> 
> 
 ) 
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> More details would be appreciated: drag from which part of the UI 
> 
>>> to which part of the UI ? (I'm not sure I'm aware of all drag 
> 
>>> capabilities that exist) I've tried to drop a geopackage from the 
> 
>>> browser, DBManager and the file explorer of my desktop to QGIS canvas 
> 
>>> (with master and 2.18.2) and that works fine for me. 
> 
>> 
> 
>> Merci Even for your response. I'm D'ing from browser panel to DB Manager. 
> 
> OK, didn't know that possibility indeed. Doesn't work for me either (but I 
> don't get any error message). That doesn't work with spatialite either. 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Even Rouault]

On mercredi 21 décembre 2016 11:32:14 CET Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Hi all,
> with a simple D I'm consistently getting this:
> 
> Errore 3
> non riesco a creare il layer (errore OGR:Failed to open Shapefile
> `dbname='/home/paolo/test.gpkg' key='id' table="province" (geom) sql=.shp'.
> )
> 

More details would be appreciated: drag from which part of the UI to which 
part of 
the UI ? (I'm not sure I'm aware of all drag capabilities that exist) I've 
tried to drop a 
geopackage from the browser, DBManager and the file explorer of my desktop to 
QGIS 
canvas (with master and 2.18.2) and that works fine for me.

Even

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Re: [Qgis-developer] GDAL Tools: option missing

[Paolo Cavallini]

Il 21/12/2016 15:19, Giovanni Manghi ha scritto:
>> Hi all,
>> gdal_grid misses the option
>>
>> -ot Float32
>>
>> as a result I get:
>>
>> ERROR 5: Pixel type must be Float32
>>
>> It was working before. QGIS 2.18.0
> 
> 
> can you be more specific?
> 
> I can run gdal_grid on 2.18.2 in both gdal tools and processing with no 
> issues.

Hi Giovanni,
thanks for checking. The command built by GDALTools is:

gdal_grid -l test5 -zfield temp -a
invdist:power=2:smothing=0:radius1=0:radius2=0:angle=0:max_points=0:min_points=0:nodata=0
test5.shp

and throws the error repoerted. From Processing the option is added:

gdal_grid -l test5 -zfield temp -a
invdist:power=2:smothing=0:radius1=0:radius2=0:angle=0:max_points=0:min_points=0:nodata=0
-ot Float32 test5.shp

and it works.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Matthias Kuhn]

On 12/21/2016 06:07 PM, Giovanni Manghi wrote:
> Hi Matthias
> 
> 
>> I am not sure if there are really more regressions or if these just are
>> spotted more often because LTR are gaining more visibility and hence
>> testing (which is a good sign).
> 
> no, I personally found (for example) tools/features working in 2.14.3
> that are not working in 2.14.9

Which is no indication that the same did not happen in 2.8 as well but
was unnoticed.
But it also means that we still have room for improvement, lucky us :)

>> Isn't that the case already? I always look at blocker priority issues
>> first which are assigned based on these criteria I think.
> 
> I may be wrong, but the during the latest bug fixing efforts the
> regression/high priority bug list was not used as priority list.

It certainly was one factor for me but in the end it's a mixed bag of

- priority

- quality of issue report
If there's no steps for how to reproduce it (in a reasonable time
and with data in reach) I'll stop right there

- expected chance of success
Better to spend the time fixing 3 non-critical ones than not fixing
a critical one

- expected time to fix
Better to spend a day fixing 6 non-critical ones in a day than 1
critical ones in two days

- knowledge of the codebase
if I know that some other dev might be better suited for something,
I'll probably leave it to him

- knowledge of certain problems
if I am experiencing a problem during bugfixing, it's in front of
nose and I will fix it. The next time I might need 2 hours to
reproduce the bug. Also knowing that something is a problem for me
or someone I know makes it rise up my priority list.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Saber Razmjooei]

Gio,

It is 2.18. Geopackage support in the LTR is not that great.

Cheers
Saber

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Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

Hi Saber,


> We are experiencing a lot of database locks on complex edits. I 
> haven't filed a bug yet as it is not so straight forward to reproduce.


what version of QGIS?
There have been fixes recently about gpkg db locks and afaik those have been 
backported to ltr (to 2.14.7 I think).

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Giovanni Manghi]

Hi Matthias


> I am not sure if there are really more regressions or if these just are
> spotted more often because LTR are gaining more visibility and hence
> testing (which is a good sign).

no, I personally found (for example) tools/features working in 2.14.3
that are not working in 2.14.9





> Isn't that the case already? I always look at blocker priority issues
> first which are assigned based on these criteria I think.

I may be wrong, but the during the latest bug fixing efforts the
regression/high priority bug list was not used as priority list.


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Matthias Kuhn]

Hi all

On 12/21/2016 04:25 PM, Giovanni Manghi wrote:
>> I personally have a strong, very strong urge to have a good alternative to
>> these stupid, ugly shapefiles. We really need to make sure that Geopackage
>> works well in QGIS/GDAL and FOSSGIS in general. Only then we can seriously
>> suggest geopackage as a Shapefile replacement.
> 
> 
> agree, a lot.

Yes, please!

>> BTW: I also think that regressions in a LT bug fix release are really
>> undesired. We received quite a lot of funding recently to QGIS.ORG and I
>> think we should spend some of these on fixing the LT regression issues.
> 
> 
> I think that lately the very bad thing is that regression in between
> point releases of LTR started to surface.

I am not sure if there are really more regressions or if these just are
spotted more often because LTR are gaining more visibility and hence
testing (which is a good sign).

Maintenance of LTR right now depends on
1) organisations requesting bugfixes on existing contracts
2) backporting of bugs fixed in pre-release bugfixing of regular releases

I would very much appreciate if we were able to put more resources in
the long term maintenance of these releases.

> I strongly suggest that the paid bug fixing effort should be targeted
> to 1) regressions 2) issues that we know cause crash or data
> corruption in a replicable manner.

Isn't that the case already? I always look at blocker priority issues
first which are assigned based on these criteria I think.
And while on the topic, IMHO crashes are in many cases even worse than
regressions.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

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Hi Gio,We are experiencing a lot of database locks on complex edits. I haven't filed a bug yet as it is not so straight forward to reproduce.We'll be happy to allocate some time with geopackage bug fixing.Regards,Saber


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Tom Chadwin]

Giovanni Manghi wrote
> I think that lately the very bad thing is that regression in between
> point releases of LTR started to surface.
> I strongly suggest that the paid bug fixing effort should be targeted
> to 1) regressions 2) issues that we know cause crash or data
> corruption in a replicable manner.

And 3) priority given to LTR over current?

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Giovanni Manghi]

Hi Andreas,


> So the drag and drop issue seems unrelated to Geopackage - right?

as far as I remember there is a general regression about d + the
same functionality always had issues with gpkg (among the other
things).




> About geopackage: if you can come up with a comprehensive list with
> Geopackage problems I would be willing to find finances to fix these issues.
> I would ask Even Rouault to have a look at these issues.


I will do.


> I personally have a strong, very strong urge to have a good alternative to
> these stupid, ugly shapefiles. We really need to make sure that Geopackage
> works well in QGIS/GDAL and FOSSGIS in general. Only then we can seriously
> suggest geopackage as a Shapefile replacement.


agree, a lot.




> BTW: I also think that regressions in a LT bug fix release are really
> undesired. We received quite a lot of funding recently to QGIS.ORG and I
> think we should spend some of these on fixing the LT regression issues.


I think that lately the very bad thing is that regression in between
point releases of LTR started to surface.
I strongly suggest that the paid bug fixing effort should be targeted
to 1) regressions 2) issues that we know cause crash or data
corruption in a replicable manner.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Régis Haubourg]

2016-12-21 15:29 GMT+01:00 Neumann, Andreas :

>
> I personally have a strong, very strong urge to have a good alternative to
> these stupid, ugly shapefiles. We really need to make sure that Geopackage
> works well in QGIS/GDAL and FOSSGIS in general. Only then we can seriously
> suggest geopackage as a Shapefile replacement.
>

For what it's worth, I strongly agree with that statement. Fundings are
very welcome, and let's spread the word to all power users to try to switch
their workflows with gpkg to test that extensively.
Cheers
Régis
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Neumann, Andreas]

Hi Giovanni, 

So the drag and drop issue seems unrelated to Geopackage - right? 

About geopackage: if you can come up with a comprehensive list with
Geopackage problems I would be willing to find finances to fix these
issues. I would ask Even Rouault to have a look at these issues. 

I personally have a strong, very strong urge to have a good alternative
to these stupid, ugly shapefiles. We really need to make sure that
Geopackage works well in QGIS/GDAL and FOSSGIS in general. Only then we
can seriously suggest geopackage as a Shapefile replacement. 

BTW: I also think that regressions in a LT bug fix release are really
undesired. We received quite a lot of funding recently to QGIS.ORG and I
think we should spend some of these on fixing the LT regression issues. 

Andreas 

On 2016-12-21 15:01, Giovanni Manghi wrote:

>> Hi all,
>> with a simple D I'm consistently getting this:
>> 
>> Errore 3
>> non riesco a creare il layer (errore OGR:Failed to open Shapefile
>> `dbname='/home/paolo/test.gpkg' key='id' table="province" (geom) sql=.shp'.
>> )
>> 
>> 2.18.0
> 
> there is a long list of issues about gpkg support in both DB manager
> (very basic support) and qgis browser (no support).
> 
> moreover there is some regression in general about d
> 
> https://hub.qgis.org/issues/15936
> 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] GDAL Tools: option missing

[Giovanni Manghi]

> Hi all,
> gdal_grid misses the option
>
> -ot Float32
>
> as a result I get:
>
> ERROR 5: Pixel type must be Float32
>
> It was working before. QGIS 2.18.0


can you be more specific?

I can run gdal_grid on 2.18.2 in both gdal tools and processing with no issues.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Giovanni Manghi]

> Hi all,
> with a simple D I'm consistently getting this:
>
> Errore 3
> non riesco a creare il layer (errore OGR:Failed to open Shapefile
> `dbname='/home/paolo/test.gpkg' key='id' table="province" (geom) sql=.shp'.
> )
>
> 2.18.0


there is a long list of issues about gpkg support in both DB manager
(very basic support) and qgis browser (no support).

moreover there is some regression in general about d

https://hub.qgis.org/issues/15936

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Re: [Qgis-developer] AequilibraE

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

> On 21 Dec 2016, at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Neto  wrote:
> 
> Pedro,
> 
> Meanwhile, you could create your own repository, if the main repository 
> fails, you will always have that backup.
> 
> Alexandre Neto
> 
> PS: trying to find information on how to do it. I have used it already.


If you want a bit fancy approach, you can do some thing like this:

https://github.com/inasafe/nightly.inasafe.org 


We use it to produce nightly builds - repo page looks like this:

http://nightly.inasafe.org 

Otherwise simply host the xml file and the zip file at some URL and point your 
users to it e.g.

http://nightly.inasafe.org/plugins.xml 

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Re: [Qgis-developer] AequilibraE

[Alexandre Neto]

Pedro,

Meanwhile, you could create your own repository, if the main repository
fails, you will always have that backup.

Alexandre Neto

PS: trying to find information on how to do it. I have used it already.

Paolo Cavallini  escreveu no dia quarta, 21/12/2016
às 06:06:

> Il 21/12/2016 04:57, Pedro Camargo ha scritto:
> > Hi Paolo,
> > I do understand the concern.
> >
> > However,  the largest transportation conference in the world is coming
> > up (January 8th-12th),  where over 12,000 people  will be in Washington
> > DC discussing transportation research and practice.
> >
> > This conference is the best opportunity I have to show people what can
> > be done for transportation modelling with open source tools and,
> >  hopefully,  to find funding opportunities to support the project
> > (things have been slow as a single developer working on my spare time).
> >
> > For that purpose would be paramount to have the plugin back online, and
> > I have worked really hard towards that objective.
> >
> > I hope my request does not seem unreasonable.
>
> Hi Pedro,
> I understand your problem. I think we can decide much sooner than Jan 8th.
> Let's keep on the discussion here.
> All the best.
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[Qgis-developer] Drag & Drop fails on Geopackage

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi all,
with a simple D I'm consistently getting this:

Errore 3
non riesco a creare il layer (errore OGR:Failed to open Shapefile
`dbname='/home/paolo/test.gpkg' key='id' table="province" (geom) sql=.shp'.
)

2.18.0

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Improving Processing help files

[matteo]

Hi Johan,

thanks I will have a look at the repository

Thanks again

Matteo
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[Qgis-developer] GDAL Tools: option missing

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi all,
gdal_grid misses the option

-ot Float32

as a result I get:

ERROR 5: Pixel type must be Float32

It was working before. QGIS 2.18.0

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