Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Miguel, You will need to contact Peter for the source code. I have the last version intact but I am sure there will have been some changes since then. When you create the driver it probably makes sense to keep the same device name (I think it's SDC, but Peter will be able to clarify), and instead define new values to be returned by the driver's API calls to get info about the installed hardware type and operating mode. In that way, programmers will be able to determine which type of SD Card interface is installed (if they need to). All of this stuff is setup in a ver_xxx_in file that is specific to each hardware type and driver build. See the variables hw_type, hw_type_str and hw_vers and their corresponding manifest constants. From memory the Partition Manager software will also need to be updated to recognise the new hardware type, but that is a relatively trivial change. Good luck. Adrian -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar Sent: 12 January 2014 05:26 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface El 11/01/2014 15:08, Adrian Ives escribió: > Sorry, Miguel. This has all been my fault. I was really too busy to > take on porting the drivers at the time, then when I tried to kick the > > project off I had one hardware problem after the other. Possibly my QLs > > have had a good 30 years and need to be retired. I will return the card to > you. I assume the address is the same as on the packet? Yes, it is. Don't worry about the drivers. I completely understand your position :) In fact, now that the drivers are available in source code (are they?) I can try porting them. I haven't got much experience with 68K assembly, but even so, if the heavy part (dealing with QDOS and the filesystem) is already done and all that is needed is to provide a low level layer for basic functions, I think I can deal with it :) Anyway, thank you very much! -- Miguel Angel @zxprojects | www.zxprojects.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
El 11/01/2014 15:08, Adrian Ives escribió: Sorry, Miguel. This has all been my fault. I was really too busy to > take on porting the drivers at the time, then when I tried to kick the > project off I had one hardware problem after the other. Possibly my QLs > have had a good 30 years and need to be retired. I will return the card to you. I assume the address is the same as on the packet? Yes, it is. Don't worry about the drivers. I completely understand your position :) In fact, now that the drivers are available in source code (are they?) I can try porting them. I haven't got much experience with 68K assembly, but even so, if the heavy part (dealing with QDOS and the filesystem) is already done and all that is needed is to provide a low level layer for basic functions, I think I can deal with it :) Anyway, thank you very much! -- Miguel Angel @zxprojects | www.zxprojects.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Today 30 years ago...
The content looks good! Good work. Hopefully we'll be able to give you a lot to write about over the next 12 months :) The background makes some of the writing quite difficult to read. Dave On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: > January 12th, what does this say to us? Right, on that date 30 years ago, > the Sinclair QL Professional Computer has been launched. Let's celebrate > with some great stuff for all Sinclair (QL) enthusiasts! Visit this new > website: > http://www.qlis30.org.uk > > QL forever! > > Cheers, Urs > > P.S. There's even more to come. Stay tuned... > -- > http://www.qlis30.org.uk > http://www.youtube.com/QLvsJAGUAR > https://plus.google.com/104042128125238901905/posts > Sinclair, QL, ATARI, JAGUAR, NUON, APPLE & more... > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > -- Dave Park Sandy Electronics, LLC d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Today 30 years ago...
January 12th, what does this say to us? Right, on that date 30 years ago, the Sinclair QL Professional Computer has been launched. Let's celebrate with some great stuff for all Sinclair (QL) enthusiasts! Visit this new website: http://www.qlis30.org.uk QL forever! Cheers, Urs P.S. There's even more to come. Stay tuned... -- http://www.qlis30.org.uk http://www.youtube.com/QLvsJAGUAR https://plus.google.com/104042128125238901905/posts Sinclair, QL, ATARI, JAGUAR, NUON, APPLE & more... ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Peter's your man for that. -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Rich Mellor (RWAP) Sent: 11 January 2014 21:17 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface > As to Javier (I thought his name was Miguel, by the way) and the > alternative QL-SD, which is really just a QL-SD for the ROM port: > Anyone with decent 68K assembler skills can port the driver. It is > only necessary to create a new set of hardware-level interface modules > - basically the routines that (from > memory) init, getSize, GetLBA and PutLBA. In fact you can probably > port the driver to any block-oriented device in that way. Of course, > you do need at least one reliably working QL to do that ;) > > I believe most of the documentation needed is actually in the > commented source code. Oops yes, it is Miguel ( apologies Miguel) - I had just written an email to a Javier - but then it is Saturday evening and I've been relaxing!! Where is the source code for the driver by the way - has it been published? Rich ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
> As to Javier (I thought his name was Miguel, by the way) and the alternative > QL-SD, which is really just a QL-SD for the ROM port: Anyone with decent 68K > assembler skills can port the driver. It is only necessary to create a new > set of hardware-level interface modules - basically the routines that (from > memory) init, getSize, GetLBA and PutLBA. In fact you can probably port the > driver to any block-oriented device in that way. Of course, you do need at > least one reliably working QL to do that ;) > > I believe most of the documentation needed is actually in the commented > source code. Oops yes, it is Miguel ( apologies Miguel) - I had just written an email to a Javier - but then it is Saturday evening and I've been relaxing!! Where is the source code for the driver by the way - has it been published? Rich ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Ha ha lol and I thought someone was actually using Google glass or something like that. On 11 Jan 2014 18:55, "Adrian Ives" wrote: > Not what you think. It's a Tesco HUDL Android Tablet. > > Sent from my Hudl > > Lee Privett wrote: > > >Never mind about all that Adrian, what's this Head Up Display your using? > >On 11 Jan 2014 15:33, "Peter Graf" wrote: > > > >> Hi Adrian, > >> > >> you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work > >> deserves many thanks and respect. > >> > >> The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm > >> here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I mentioned > >> your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. If you wish > >> your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know. > >> > >> I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a name > >> clash. > >> > >> Many thanks again, > >> Peter > >> > >> ___ > >> QL-Users Mailing List > >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > >> > >___ > >QL-Users Mailing List > >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Rich, Yes, I can see it was well intentioned but, unfortunately, the trouble with getting credit for something is that it quickly turns into an 0800 support number! and I DO NOT want to go there! Anyway, forget it. It's an exciting new product and needs some enthusiasm. As to Javier (I thought his name was Miguel, by the way) and the alternative QL-SD, which is really just a QL-SD for the ROM port: Anyone with decent 68K assembler skills can port the driver. It is only necessary to create a new set of hardware-level interface modules - basically the routines that (from memory) init, getSize, GetLBA and PutLBA. In fact you can probably port the driver to any block-oriented device in that way. Of course, you do need at least one reliably working QL to do that ;) I believe most of the documentation needed is actually in the commented source code. Signing off from this discussion, Adrian -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Rich Mellor (RWAP) Sent: 11 January 2014 19:29 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface I'm afraid that I am probably the guilty party here - so please accept my apologies. I just thought it right that you should receive some credit - you did a lot of work with these drivers without which the product would never have come to market. It is just a shame that you have not been able to get the drivers / hardware working reliably on Javier's own version of the QL-SD. Rich > On January 11, 2014 at 7:01 PM Adrian Ives wrote: > > References in the manual are OK, but I do not want to see my name in > any advertising blurb - as I have done these last couple of days. > > Anyway I'm very pleased to see the QL-SD getting distributed at last. > Well done to all involved. > > Sent from my Hudl > > Peter Graf wrote: > > >Hi Adrian, > > > >you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work > >deserves many thanks and respect. > > > >The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm > >here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I > >mentioned your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. > >If you wish your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know. > > > >I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a > >name clash. > > > >Many thanks again, > >Peter > > > >___ > >QL-Users Mailing List > >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
I'm afraid that I am probably the guilty party here - so please accept my apologies. I just thought it right that you should receive some credit - you did a lot of work with these drivers without which the product would never have come to market. It is just a shame that you have not been able to get the drivers / hardware working reliably on Javier's own version of the QL-SD. Rich > On January 11, 2014 at 7:01 PM Adrian Ives wrote: > > References in the manual are OK, but I do not want to see my name in any > advertising blurb - as I have done these last couple of days. > > Anyway I'm very pleased to see the QL-SD getting distributed at last. Well > done to all involved. > > Sent from my Hudl > > Peter Graf wrote: > > >Hi Adrian, > > > >you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work > >deserves many thanks and respect. > > > >The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm > >here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I mentioned > >your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. If you wish > >your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know. > > > >I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a name > >clash. > > > >Many thanks again, > >Peter > > > >___ > >QL-Users Mailing List > >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Adrian Ives wrote: References in the manual are OK, but I do not want to see my name in any advertising blurb - as I have done these last couple of days. Anyway I'm very pleased to see the QL-SD getting distributed at last. Well done to all involved. Credit where credit's due - although you aren't directly involved with QL-SD, without the work you put in it beforehand, it may not have been possible. I'm sure people were only giving due thanks to you for your past work which helped make this possible. Like you, we are all so glad to see this interface finally launched. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
References in the manual are OK, but I do not want to see my name in any advertising blurb - as I have done these last couple of days. Anyway I'm very pleased to see the QL-SD getting distributed at last. Well done to all involved. Sent from my Hudl Peter Graf wrote: >Hi Adrian, > >you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work >deserves many thanks and respect. > >The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm >here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I mentioned >your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. If you wish >your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know. > >I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a name >clash. > >Many thanks again, >Peter > >___ >QL-Users Mailing List >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Not what you think. It's a Tesco HUDL Android Tablet. Sent from my Hudl Lee Privett wrote: >Never mind about all that Adrian, what's this Head Up Display your using? >On 11 Jan 2014 15:33, "Peter Graf" wrote: > >> Hi Adrian, >> >> you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work >> deserves many thanks and respect. >> >> The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm >> here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I mentioned >> your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. If you wish >> your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know. >> >> I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a name >> clash. >> >> Many thanks again, >> Peter >> >> ___ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm >> >___ >QL-Users Mailing List >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Never mind about all that Adrian, what's this Head Up Display your using? On 11 Jan 2014 15:33, "Peter Graf" wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work > deserves many thanks and respect. > > The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm > here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I mentioned > your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. If you wish > your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know. > > I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a name > clash. > > Many thanks again, > Peter > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Hi Adrian, you had contributed a large amout of work for QL-SD and this work deserves many thanks and respect. The drivers are free software and without any warranty, I can confirm here that you are not responsible for QL-SD or any support. I mentioned your name in the manual under the acknowledgements section. If you wish your name to be removed, or unmentioned in general, please let me know. I'm saying this for the hardware I designed, not sure if there is a name clash. Many thanks again, Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
Sorry, Miguel. This has all been my fault. I was really too busy to take on porting the drivers at the time, then when I tried to kick the project off I had one hardware problem after the other. Possibly my QLs have had a good 30 years and need to be retired. I will return the card to you. I assume the address is the same as on the packet? Now, as to the QL-SD drivers, I did not ask for my name to be plastered around all over the place as being the (part) author. It is true that I wrote the 68K assembly language core, derived from the old Rebel hard disk driver, but when I decided that I did not want to proceed with producing QL-SDs I stated that I was happy for my code to go into the public domain. I state this very clearly because I don't want there to be any misunderstanding. I have done NO work on that code since then. I have NOT worked on QL-SD instead of on a driver for your hardware. In fact, I haven't written one line of 68K code since that date. So, let's be 100% clear about this and for the avoidance of all doubt: I have NO connection with the QL-SD other than wishing the project every success for the QL's 30th year! Sent from my Hudl Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar wrote: >El 09/01/2014 20:35, Rich Mellor (RWAP) escribió: >> The first QL-SD Card Interface based on Peter Graf's design, and with drivers >> written in part by Adrian Ives is now available on SellMyRetro - >> >> http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/QL-SD-internal-SDHC-Card-Interface-for-QL-3596 > >May I guess that Adrian won't work in the drivers for the QLSD interface I >sent >to him last year? I've had no news from both of you since then. > >-- >Miguel Angel >@zxprojects | www.zxprojects.com >___ >QL-Users Mailing List >http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD Card Interface
El 09/01/2014 20:35, Rich Mellor (RWAP) escribió: The first QL-SD Card Interface based on Peter Graf's design, and with drivers written in part by Adrian Ives is now available on SellMyRetro - http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/QL-SD-internal-SDHC-Card-Interface-for-QL-3596 May I guess that Adrian won't work in the drivers for the QLSD interface I sent to him last year? I've had no news from both of you since then. -- Miguel Angel @zxprojects | www.zxprojects.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
