Re: [Ql-Users] bug in String handling

[John Southern via Ql-Users]

Could the reference be the SBASIC/SuperBASIC reference manual?

That says
When a string array is set up with DIM, each entry is set to a nul string
(“”). The zero’th element of each string array
contains the actual length of that string, for example:
DIM a$(10,10): a$(1)='Hello': PRINT a$(1,0)
will return the value 5, as will PRINT LEN(a$(1)).
If a$ is undimensioned and a$=’Hello World’, PRINT a$(0) does not generally
work and will result in an ‘Out of
Range’ error, except under SMS v2.60+ and Minerva where PRINT a$(0) is the
same as PRINT LEN(a$).

John

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 at 17:04, Jan Bredenbeek via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> On 12-01-2024 16:20, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users wrote:
>
> >
> > If I remember correctly, all the way back to 1984-85, I'm almost
> > certain that the supplied QL manual, in the large, heavy, A$ folder,
> > mentioned that string lengths are indeed stored in a$(0)---or at
> > least, can be accessed from there.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Norm.
> >
>
> Page 46 of the Concepts section mentions that 'under certain
> circumstances' it is possible to refer to more than one element in an
> array (i.e. slice the array), and that the term 'array' in this context
> can include a numerical array, a string array or a simple string. It
> also mentions that the slice (0 TO) means the full range of elements.
>
> Whilst it is indeed possible to slice an array (which includes element
> 0), this is not true for simple strings. Using slice (0 TO) of a simple
> string always produces an 'out of range' error.
> Under Minerva and SMSQ/E, a$(0) indeed returns the length of a$. At
> least version JS returns an error when trying to access element 0 of a
> simple string.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] One Per Desk: Computer One floppy interface. Need the ROM image.

[John Southern via Ql-Users]

Nothing in the Quanta library :-(
Dan Abbot was the person who had an OPD and Tonto collection

John

On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 at 12:21, Stephen Usher via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> OK. The Wayback Machine just has the first version of the web page in 2007
> and
> the C1 interface information points to the RWAP web page, so Rich, you had
> that
> PDF in at least 2007. Looks like that's along gone then.
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 221, Issue 7

[John Southern via Ql-Users]

Hi Paul,

The original French made SAF 40LF220 3.0V battery is no longer made.
There is an equivalent at £23 at
https://www.allbatteries.co.uk/lithium-battery-3v-270mah-40lf220-equivalent-mgl0025.html
or you could ask
https://www.vlad.fr/en/various-professional/7883-battery-lithium-3v-270mah-industry-type-2840lf22029.html
https://www.laboiteapiles.com/produit/124/40lf220 claim to have some in
stock

However I think what you are after is a CR2032 replacement in a holder.
Marcel mentioned a holder at
https://www.kilgus.net/2018/05/22/ql-sd-ql-microsd-and-sgc-battery/
Dave on the QL Forum had https://qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1137 but I
think you are remembering
https://qlforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2=387=battery
The Russian ones when back online were
https://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/28481

Regards
John

On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 at 00:40, Paul Holmgren via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> I'm having a 'Senior Moment'  there was a gent in the USA that had an
> adapter I thought. Just can't dredge up his name.
>
> Paul Holmgren JCI 74145
>
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 04:05:28 PM EDT,
> ql-users-requ...@lists.q-v-d.com 
> wrote:
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: Ql-Users Digest, Vol 221, Issue 6 (Alex Evans)
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 08:11:54 -0400
> From: Alex Evans 
> To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 221, Issue 6
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Tetroid made (makes) an adapter that allows using a CR2032. Unfortunately,
> he is in Russia.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 4:06 PM  wrote:
>
> > Send Ql-Users mailing list submissions to
> >ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
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> > Today's Topics:
> >1. Gold/Super Gold card batteries (Paul Holmgren)
> > --
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:31:53 + (UTC)
> > From: Paul Holmgren 
>
> > Hoping to find a modern source for replacement battery for these
>
> > Paul Holmgren?JCI 74145
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Re: [Ql-Users] Peter Baily

[John Southern via Ql-Users]

Unfortunately, John Taylor has also passed at 92 on Friday after a
short illness.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:54 PM Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users
 wrote:
>
> Thank you for letting us know Rich.
>
> I met him several times at Quanta workshops over the years.
>
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 15:52, Rich Mellor via Ql-Users <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>
> > For those of us who came across Peter Baily - just some news from his
> > son, that he passed away yesterday after a short illness.
> >
> > --
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> > RWAP Services
> > Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services
> >
> > www.rwapservices.co.uk
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-VGA

[John Southern via Ql-Users]

I have two questions
1) When can I buy one?
2) What are the advantages over an RGB/CGA/EGA to HDMI converter?

Regards
John

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020, 8:30 am Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users, <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Pedantic? Or correct!
>
> I'm a pedant's baddest nightmare. ;-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> On 9 January 2020 22:47:27 GMT, John Alexander via Ql-Users <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
> >Indeed, one might say it's more of a mark up decription of what you
> >would like to see the hardware been rather than a S/W program to run on
> >the H/W.
> >Sounds so pedantic doesn't it ;-)JA
> >
> >On Thursday, 9 January 2020, 22:11:31 GMT, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users
> > wrote:
> >
> > See! I said I knew nothing! ;-)
> >
> >On 9 January 2020 16:29:50 GMT, Peter Graf via Ql-Users
> > wrote:
> >>Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users wrote:
> >>> I get that it's a software description of some hardware.
> >>
> >>Not software. It is simply a hardware description, and the result is
> >>pure hardware, i.e. flipflops, gates, wires. You can as well describe
> >>he
> >>same hardware in a schematic rather than text.
> >>
> >>It is important to understand that no emulation is involved and there
> >>is
> >>no difference to other logic chips, except that an FPGA can be
> >>re-configured. Like GALs, just more complex.
> >>
> >>From the same hardware description, is is also possible to manufacture
> >>customized chips, called ASICs, which have a fixed logic.
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Re: [Ql-Users] How to reach QUANTA membership secretary?

[John Southern via Ql-Users]

Hi Peter,

I will dig out the details of the bank account and forward them on to you.

Regards
John

On 26 Nov 2017 1:54 p.m., "Peter Graf via Ql-Users" <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to pay my QUANTA subscription without Paypal. In the papers I
> received, bank transfer to QUANTA is offered, but the required account
> information was not included.
>
> I found no email address of the QUANTA membership secretary, neither in
> the papers, nor on the website. And using the form on the QUANTA website
> did not result in a response.
>
> What shall I do, write a postal letter, asking for the required
> information? Or is there an easier way?
>
> All the best
> Peter
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine

[John Southern via Ql-Users]

Hi All,

I have taken over as the membership secretary.

The latest magazine is incredibly late and that is purely down to me
and I am working through that today.

Simon, Michael, Ian, you should have all received copies up to and
including April/May 2017.

Can you send me you email address to my personal email -
linuxtarragon@gmail just so I know I have the correct one and I will
send out your copies.

Regards
John Southern

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, IAN BURKINSHAW via Ql-Users
<ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
> I have not received the magazine either.
> In fact the last one I received was Oct/Nov 2015.
> I keep meaning to contact Quanta, but just not around to it.
> Ian
>
> On Sunday, 23 July 2017, 11:28, Michael Bulford via Ql-Users 
> <ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>
>
>  I've received two issues this year, up to the Feb/March issue.
> None received since then.  I did email John Gilpin last week, but no reply as 
> yet.
>
>
> Michael
> Dilwyn wrote:
>
>> I've forwarded this to committee members (don't know the answer myself),
>> hopefully a reply soon.
>>
>> Dilwyn
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: sba1derson via Ql-Users
>> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:08 AM
>> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>> Subject: [Ql-Users] Quanta Magazine
>>
>> Has anyone received an electronic copy of Quanta magazine since the
>> January/February 2017 issue?  I've not received one since.  I've contacted
>> Quanta via their website but so far have had no response.
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Re: [Ql-Users] The Wall

[John Southern]

Thank you. It runs perfectly under uQLx.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Peter Graf  wrote:

> Cool. Just tested it on Q68 ;-)
>
> Am 22.12.2016 um 18:24 schrieb Wolf:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > 'Tis the season to be merry.
> >
> > So, The Wall, a formerly commercial game, is now up on my website.
> >
> > www.wlenerz.com/QLStuff
> >
> > Seasons greetings to all.
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> > Wolfgang
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[Ql-Users] Errors with uQLx on Raspberry Pi

[John Southern]

Hi All,

Is anyone able to assit or at least start me off on a general direction.
I am trying to get the uQLx running on a slow (MK.all takes 160 seconds), 
memory restricted Raspberry Pi with the Armel architecture.

Following Javier's instructions from a message sent 10:17 27/11/2009 I edited 
the config file to the gcc version I was using and commented out the line in 
unixstuff.c for RTOP. I used gcc 4.1.3 although 4.4 gives an identical error.
The install appears to run without throwing up errors although there are 
plenty of warnings.

When I try to start the emulator, the outline of the QL screen briefly flashes 
up on screen before I get the followinf error message

pi@raspberrypi:~/bin$ ./qm 
problem, stat failed : No such file or directory
 - MountPoint /dev/fd0 for device FLP1_ may not be accessible
*** QL Emulator v0.81 ***
release 2010-02-25

Terminate on signal 11
This may be due to an internal error,
a feature not emulated or an 68000 exception
that typically occurs only when QDOS is unrecoverably
out of control
FATAL error, PC may not be displayed correctly
DebugInfo: PC=16c, code=adc7, SupervisorMode: yes USP=0 SSp=3 A7=3
Register Dump:   Dn An
0  0   0
1  0   0
2  0   0
3  0   0
4  0   0
5  0   0
6  0   0
7  0   3
pi@raspberrypi:~/bin$

Regards
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Re: [Ql-Users] QUANTA Survey

[John Southern]

On Wednesday 17 Feb 2010 17:27:09 Derek Stewart wrote:
 I selected option 1, which I took to be; I Strongly Agree
 
 I will be introducing the wrong information in the survey now.
 
 The Survey should of been proof read before being published.

That was all my fault.
When testing the survey I did spot that there should have been an indication 
to which was Strongly Agree/Strongly disagree but I forgot to ask Keith to 
change this.

The spellings and inconsistencies were also all my fault.

I did try to incorporate the suggestions that had been sent in when it was 
initially planned, and each time we do this, hopefully we will get better.

I notice that Keith and Dan have now added a comment to which is Strongly 
Agree on the scale and Dilwyn's suggestions on some of my spelling mistakes 
have now been corrected.

The reason for the lack of collecting a name or email address was down to the 
idea that the results should be available to all and I did not want any 
possibility that someone could complain about lack of data protection if they 
could be identified.

Any comments about the survey are welcomed as I would like to see it run much 
more regularly so everyone can see how we are changing.



I suppose while I am writing I do have a question?
Has anyone produced a virtual machine containing an emulator that could be 
moved from machine to machine, OS to OS?

Regards
John

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Re: [Ql-Users] Any Pharao fans out there?

[John Southern]

On Monday 27 April 2009 20:17:27 Daniele Terdina wrote:
 Thanks for your reply! It must have been hard to complete.. I remember the
 bad guys something materializing close to you near the edges of the
 screen... very hard to avoid. It was a nice and fun game.

Was this based on Fred from Indescomp and sold by Quicksilva?

John
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Re: [Ql-Users] How was QUANTAs QLis25 event and AGM?

[John Southern]

Hi Urs,

Very good from my point of view. There was just under forty people on the 
Saturday and I guess just less than thirty for the Saturday evening meal.

John and Stuart did eventually manage to find some Real Ale in the village.

The hotel was reasonable and the food edible (My room was large and I slept 
very soundly so I could not complain).

Lunch on the Saturday saw most of the salad uneaten, while Sunday was the 
opposite with the chips left uneaten. 

As usual, the time just disappeared far too quickly and with Chis, I fixed 
fewer machines that planned and spoke to fewer people than I intended, 
although in hindsight we did fix many and chatted with lots.

Dilwyn produced an amazing display of information, equipment and bits and 
pieces to give a full history of the QL.

Rich had masses of stuff for sale and produced two differing Samsung models of 
the original QL. The SG13 model which I had never seen before had extra RF 
suppression compared to other Samsung models.

The highlight as usual was the talks, although I missed some on Saturday 
morning as I arrived late. I liked the Lear PCB CAD talk by Simon and Steve 
Poole's talk on graphics went down very well.

Having overseas visitors made the show that little bit special, although I did 
not recognise anyone from the London group. (Sorry if I missed you!).

The actual AGM had a good open discussion at the end, where some interesting 
ideas came up and hopefully the group will carry them forward.

In response to a letter in the latest magazine calling for QL Today and Quanta 
to be merged, a questionnaire was produced to gauge opinion and this should be 
opened up to a wider audience so everyone's views can be gathered.

I now have a house full of QL bits once again, that I did not get around to 
testing and so will be kept quiet for a few more months.

Talking to people at the shows is always interesting as it is the tiny 
snippets of information of shared problems that lead on to other things. 
Certainly, enough little projects to keep the sub-group I attend busy for the 
next year.

The children enjoyed themselves by being able to write real programs on real 
computers that worked and where they understood the actual code. To my shame I 
had forgotten some of the commands, but they were helped by many who explained 
various commands and functions easy enough for me to follow.

On display were different forms of desktop, laptop, netbook and QLs in various 
guises from black boxes to Aurora systems.

I would certainly go again. 

John
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Re: [Ql-Users] The forgotten half

[John Southern]

On Wednesday 22 October 2008 19:53:14 Malcolm Cadman wrote:
 OK.

 To kick the debate off ... how many people are regularly attending at
 Quanta Group local meetings ?

 I organise the London Group meetings, for example, and the attendance
 now is only a small handful, when it could still be ( even now ) a
 reasonable number.

 If the grassroots are not being supported, then the main plant will
 also suffer.

 So, do you attend at local meetings ... ?  Even if only occasionally,
 then it would make a difference.

 I also store a lot of second user items - see my new Retro Computing
 web page - which makes these items available to people as the Traders
 are less present on the QL scene now.

 Commercial items, and new items, should still be provided via Traders.

NEMQLUG (North East Manchester) has about half a dozen every month attending 
from a pool of over a dozen. All are welcomed. Topics are varied. Food is 
excellent. We never quite finish what we intend
(Note to self, we must transfer that database from the Aurora machines next 
time) and often ramble down interesting paths of computer problems.

John
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Re: [Ql-Users] NEMQLUG Pandora

[John Southern]

On Tuesday 29 January 2008 08:21:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone remember if the Pandora metal case for the QL came with an
 instruction leaflet?  If it did I seem to have lost mine.  I used to have
 an Aurora/Super Gold Card combination fitted inside the case but sold the
 parts when I migrated to a PC and QPCII.  I still have my original QL and
 seem to remember that you were supposed to be able to fit the QL
 motherboard inside the Pandora, but I'm not sure how.  Do you have to
 disconnect the microdrive circuit board? Has anyone managed to fit the QL
 inside one of these cases?

The case came with no instructions that I can remember, but would house an 
original QL motherboard in the upper half although this depended on how you 
wanted to power the board. Yes you needed to disconnect the microdrive units 
and rotate them if you still wanted access to them.

I remember Cyril in London dropping one down the concrete steps going to his 
flat and apart from chipping a couple of the steps, the Pandora survived and 
worked perfectly.

Regards
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Re: [ql-users] The way forward

[John Southern]

On Thursday 13 April 2006 23:42, John Gilpin wrote:
 Pity you didn't get over to the Manchester AGM. Nemqlug (the host sub
 group) had a real WORKING party at the workshop, repairing old QLs and
 other associated equipment. We also had a number of working QL Monitors for
 sale from as little as £1 - YES one GBPound. Would you be interested if I
 could still lay my hands on a couple?

Out of the twenty dead original black box QLs that we took along to the AGM, 
the sub group managed to get twelve working perfectly and another two just need 
membranes and microdrives fitting. To be honest we ran out of time for the 
microdrives, but the limiting factor in the future seems to be keyboard 
membranes.

I know a few membranes are still available, but the price of original QLs have 
fallen through the floor on eBay to the extent that it is not worth the price. 
I will try to do something about this and hopefully reduce the cost in the 
future for anyone trying to keep old machines in operation.

Boxed QLs still seem to find buyers, but I suspect these are collectors and not 
anyone who is actually using them.

Without the ability to buy SGC and Aurora boards, I guess the market is limited 
to an ever falling number of machines and the Emulator route. The community has 
always split from time to time - Floppy/microdrive, TKII/no TKII, even colour 
graphics on emulators vs none on Aurora. How this is solved, if possible I 
leave to others.

While it was fun setting up QLs for my children and watching them play games, 
the limiting factor was finding working cartridges. (We only repaired one 
floppy disk unit at the end and had a ready supply of legal cartridges to try).

We had success with Deathstrike, Chess, Zkul, West (We used this one to test 
all the other machines) but the others all failed. Admittedly, this will now 
mean I will have to send some of the originals away to Rich Mellor to get 
working copies on disk for them but at least they will get some fun out of 
them. (What ever happened to Jochen's BrainSmasher, Diamonds and QShang? I 
could not see them for sale anywhere)

OK so now to my questions.
Has anyone ever had any success with getting SMSQ/E working under uQLx?
Is ZMht available anywhere? I can find the demo but no mention of the full 
version.

John S
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Re: [ql-users] Minix for QDOS

[John Southern]

On Saturday 17 September 2005 18:40, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 Anyone know if there indeed was a Minix system for the QL and what
 happened to it?

There was definitely a Minix for the QL. I seem to remember buying a copy from 
somewhere in East Anglia. I think (it was a very long time ago and I gave my 
copy to Jerry Davies) that it was in the hundreds of pounds.
Pretty sure it was advertised in QL World.
Must have been around 1990.

I also remember someone called Dondorp (Dondorth?) writing a version.

John

P.S. I can only find this old message:-

Message 618  1990-09-18 21:48  5 lines  by Erik Slagter
Area: INTL.QL
Comment to message by Hans Hoelscher % MAUS HB
Subject: MINIX on QL?
-
  I hope there is a MINIX version for the QL too, isn't it?
  It would be great!

Minix 1.1 is available for the QL in cdiffs from ST 1.1

--- QBoss v1.01b
 * Origin: The Link says: And now... Something completely di (2:283/501.3)

End of message 618 by Erik Slagter

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Re: [ql-users] Help

[John Southern]

On Monday 05 September 2005 21:10, Robert Newson wrote:
 Can anyone help me regarding the multi-input din socket on a Sony TV?
 (Namely what each Pin could represent?)

Depends on what model?
Could be a S-Video, AV cable, EIAJ for video camera support, EVID-30 etc.,

What model TV and how many pins on the connector?

John
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Re: [ql-users] Archive - ALTER command

[John Southern]

On Saturday 14 May 2005 15:10, John Gilpin wrote:
 I seem to remember, a long time ago, using the Archive ALTER command with a
 list of field names so that although you have (say) all the fields of a
 database visible on the monitor screen, by putting only some of them into
 the list, you only ALTER those fields listed, ignoring those which are not
 listed.

 I now cannot find any reference to the above in any Archive book or manual
 and I can't remember the syntax for the list.

 Can anyone out there help me please :-) or tell me I'm mistaken in the
 first case?:-(

That would be the SInclair QL Manual Archive Reference section Chapter 12 
pages 41 and 42 :-)

This says:-

ALTER
Alters the current screen layout to display the current values of the 
variables.

Syntax alter

You can change the contents of any one or more fields of the current file 
whose values are shown in the screen layout. Note that it is not necessary 
for all the field variables to be shown. You can not change a field that is 
not shown. If none of the field variables appear on screen, Archive forces a 
display of the file.

First select the field to change by pressing TABULATE or ENTER until the 
cursor is at the correct filed (variables that are not fields of the file are 
skipped). You can then type a new value or use the line editor to modify the 
existing value. Press TABULATE or ENTER to move to the next field. (Pressing 
SHIFT and TABULATE together moves back to the previous filed).

When you have made all the changes you want, press F5 to replace the old 
record with the new one. The record is replaced automatically if you press 
ENTER. If the file is ordered the new version of the record is inserted in 
sequence.

John S
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Re: [ql-users] Quanta AGM 2005

[John Southern]

On Monday 09 May 2005 00:04, Tony Firshman wrote:
 I need help with a couple of names.

Unknown.  I am forgetting names in my old age.  Help -- Roy Kempton?

John S
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Re: [ql-users] Ghostscript 6.0

[John Southern]

On Friday 22 April 2005 19:15, Duncan Neithercut wrote:
 Anyone an expert on Ghostscript. Have installed it on my Q60, and it
 works very well, prints postscript files and text and graphics.
 It comes with some utility scripts one of which gslp.ps allows the
 printing of text files directly to the printer without conversion to
 postscript. This works well also.
 My problem is that this script should also convert text files to
 postscript as a file.
 When I try to do this according to the manual I get an error message
 indicating that I have not passed it all the info it needs to do the
 job yet it has been set up according to the manual. Has anyone used it
 or GS generally?

Try the following

gslp -ptest.ps test.txt

This uses the Ghostscript line printer to generate the postscript file called 
test.ps from the test.txt file.

John S
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Re: [ql-users] Ghostscript 6.0

[John Southern]

On Friday 22 April 2005 21:51, Duncan Neithercut wrote:
 Thanks but thats the manual seems to say  what I have been using
 without success. do you need to specify an output device or font in
 the
 command line as well?

No to both questions. I have just run it here and as you can see below it 
generates a postscript file.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ ls
test.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ gslp -pfishstick.ps test.txt
Printing test.txt
Page height = 71.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ ls
fishstick.ps  test.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ cat test.txt
test file
1
2
3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$ cat fishstick.ps
%!
/B {save 3 1 roll translate /X 0 def} def
/BL {save 3 1 roll 90 rotate translate /X 0 def} def
/E {showpage restore} def
/V {neg X exch moveto} def
/M {/X 2 index def neg moveto} def
/S {currentfile =string readline pop show} def
/RE {findfont dup length dict begin {1 index /FID ne {def} {pop pop} ifelse} 
forall /Encoding ISOLatin1Encoding def currentdict end definefont} def
/BFont /Courier-ISOLatin1 /Courier RE 10 scalefont def
/HFont /Courier-Bold-ISOLatin1 /Courier-Bold RE 10 scalefont def
50.4 784.812866 B
HFont setfont
-13.04 V
S test.txt
170.4 -13.04 M
S Sat Apr 23 00:37:32 BST 2005
460.8 -13.04 M
S page 1
BFont setfont
0 18.5 M
S test file
29 V
S 1
39.5 V
S 2
50 V
S 3
E
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/stella$   

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Re: [ql-users] Hove Show and AGM

[John Southern]

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 10:04, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 Off the top of my head, that's most of what I can remember, anyone else
 remember anything else important to mention?

Not important, but I also stood down from the Quanta committee and Sarah 
Gilpin became the secretary of Quanta ;-)

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Re: [ql-users] Fw: RE:Quanta AGM

[John Southern]

On Thursday 31 March 2005 18:28, Tarquin Mills wrote:
 I going to put forward a special resolution for next year to abolish
 clause 11.0 (Honoraria) which basically means giving officials money out
 of Quanta funds. At worst this is corrupt, at best a waste of precious
 money that could be better spent elsewhere. If this clause 11.0 goes
 some people might join Quanta.

Has this clause every been used?
Speaking for myself, I would happily vote to delete this clause to remove any 
ambiguity.

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Re: [ql-users] Fw: RE:Quanta AGM

[John Southern]

On Thursday 31 March 2005 19:20, gwicks wrote:
 I think there is something that is a more urgent priority. I was surprised
 to discover this year that committee members do not pay a subscription.
 This is not in the constitution and I have no idea when and why it was
 approved.

 As a matter of principle I have made a donation to Quanta equivalent to the
 subscription. I wonder what other committee members have done,

Well, since you ask the question, I can confirm that I have paid my membership 
for this year.

I came onto the committee last April (2004) and as such had already paid my 
membership fee in January 2004. The usual practise has been for committee 
members to then not pay a subscription while serving and to receive a free 
subscription the year after they stand down to make up for the year when they 
initially stand. As such I could then expect to get Jan 2005 to Dec 2005 
subscription paid for by Quanta.
I have already paid Jan 2005-Dec 2005.

My reason for payment is a far more simple excuse. I also pay associate 
membership fees giving an annual fee of £24. Rather than having to change 
direct debit forms and Quanta receiving unusual amounts, I just continue to 
pay my normal fee and the difference is treated by Quanta as a donation.
Nothing Machiavellian, I just cannot be bothered with the excess paperwork to 
gain £14 pounds and I might then forget the following year.
I have in the past not paid on time and been late because I assumed that the 
fees matched the magazine, running Feb to Jan, when in fact they run Jan to 
Dec.

The constitution clearly states that committee members can award this free 
membership.
When this first came into practise I do not know. Perhaps the previous 
Treasurer, John Taylor, can remember, but I suspect it was before his time.

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Re: [ql-users] Quanta AGM

[John Southern]

On Monday 28 March 2005 17:58, Tarquin Mills wrote:
 Questions.
 1. What would Geoff Wicks do differently as leader?
 2. Why should I approve Special Resolution 2 when they can have
enough members by co-opting?
 3. Why should I approve SP1 when it stops the top posts changing
democratically (new clause 5.3), and the burn out has already happened?
Imagine if the Magazine Editor post had been done this way.
 4. Is anyone other than The Chairman of the meeting offering to
do proxy voting for me?

If you are not going to attend, can I request a proxy form soon? The final 
date for receipt is Sunday.

I have received a few forms that indicate the form is not as clear as it could 
be. This is where individuals have voted for BOTH John and Geoff as Chairman. 
While this may be a novel solution, it is unfortunately an OR option.

Speaking (typing) as myself and not on behalf of the committee :-
1. Ask Geoff !
4. If no one else offers, as a last resort, I am happy to act as your proxy as 
long as you direct me to which way you want to vote.

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Re: [ql-users] [OT] What happened to BACC

[John Southern]

On Friday 25 March 2005 10:39, John Taylor wrote:
 Quanta is still affiliated to BACC as the insurance cover has to be
 obtained through them.
 John Gilpin should have the details.
 I attended several of the BACC AGM's and found them very disappointing.
 As Chairman of ACCUS you should be able to attend,
 Try it.  I wish you luck.

Whether BACC still exists is a bit of a mystery. It has no web details.
Browsing the web, I can find a reference to BACC on the Association of Acorn 
User groups web page http://www.aaug.net/aaug/ however the copyright date is 
2000.

In April 2003, the Sutton Library Computer club said that BACC was no longer 
offering equipment cover. http://www.venus.co.uk/comms/slcc/

The Cheshunt Computer Club amended its online flyer in July 2004 to indicate 
it was no longer affiliated to BACC 
http://www.cix.co.uk/~derryck/html/news.htm

The Wakefield Acorn Computer (User) Group no longer appears to be in 
existence.

The Oric User Group is no longer affiliated. 
http://oric.ifrance.com/oric/STORY/chaptr12.html

Regards
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Re: [ql-users] October / November Quanta Magazine

[John Southern]

On Saturday 27 November 2004 15:46, Rich Mellor wrote:

 BTW secretary AT quanta email address is still not working Does anyone
 have John's direct email address for me please...

Hi Rich,

OK try either
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or
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Re: [ql-users] Questionnaire

[John Southern]

Hello All,

Thank you Tony for the hard work and everyone who has taken the time to reply.

As the first few paper copies start to hit the letterbox, I can report that so 
far we have had 38 replies (both Quanta member and Non Quanta members).

The main systems are listed as :-

12 QPC
10 Aurora
5 Original QLs
3 Qemulator
3 Q60
2 Q40
1 Qlay
1 QXL
1 SGC

Remembering that people can mark down more than one wordprocessor or 
spreadsheet

For Wordprocessors
22 Quill
15 Text87
7 Editor
4 Perfection
3 Paragraph

For Spreadsheets
19 Abacus
16 QSpread

Regards
John Southern


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Re: [ql-users] UQLX page on Yahoo

[John Southern]

On Monday 28 June 2004 21:22, Timothy Swenson wrote:
 When I try to connect to the UQLX main web page on Yahoo. I keep getting an
 Inactive site error message.

 Does anybody know of another site the Richard is now using?

The site moved to
http://linux-q40.sourceforge.net/

Does anyone know of a way to get SMSQ/E running under UQLX?

Regards
John

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