[Ql-Users] Bill Newell
I have just received this One Liner from Mrs Newell/ "Sorry to say Bill passed away this afternoon. Bit raw at the moment so write more latter.” What can I add? John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] Bill Newell
Bill Newell is ill. I have tried to avoid pestering Babs, Mrs Newell, but today I called her and asked for an update. As it stands at present. Mental Health. Still very poor due to Alzheimers Disease. Babs say that on very rare occasions ,Bill does recognise her, but the recognition does not last above a few minutes. Physical Health. There is no concern now with Sepsis. The Antibiotics worked. However Bill must remain bed ridden. When ever he leaves his bed, if only to stand, his Blood Pressure crashes down, so the medics have decided, permanent bed. No one has offered any explanation. I will try to get to Bill, currently in a Nursing Home, when I can get some support from my family. I do not drive now as my eyesight is lacking and I expect the visit will require a full day, most of it spent travelling. I hope I can keep you informed of Bill’s wellbeing in the future. All the best. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] Bill Newell
Bull Newell is very ill with Sepsis. He is in hospital, but as he is a diabetic and I have heard he has Alzheimers disease, his prospects are not too good. His time as Membership Secretary, followed by his time as Chairman of Quanta where very rewarding. Quanta in those days was very difficult to manage as too many member pushed or pulled in different directions. It was always Bill’s claim that Quanta needed a ”Benevolent Dictator" Bill was never a Dictator. May he recover as we owe him so much. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] Assemblers
Quanta had two assembler programs. One had been largely rewritten by Phil Borman and he obtained the right for Quanta to market it The other assembler never took of as it could never compete with the Macro assembler. If by GST you mean the Macro Assembler, yes, you need to contact Phil. If, as I fear, GST was the second assembler, then it is best forgotten. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Punk chew asian.
I was surprised that Lynn Truss did not include this one. A woman without her man, is nothing. A woman, without her, man is nothing. Now I am happy to hand this board back to the QL Pedants John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today
On 20 Mar 2013, at 21:06, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: On Wednesday, March 27, 2013, Ian Burkinshaw wrote: Thankyou to everybody for correcting my grammer, I am now considered told off. so I had better not tell you of for your spelling of 'grammar' then (8-)# Now then Tony, you talk of people, or you tell them off. John. Tony Back to QLToday. Question, how do we get more people to write stuff ? It is clear from the posts on here, that there is still a good following and lots of good stuff going on. But it does not all get written up for the wider audience. Seems to me, down to a very small number that contribute. One item from every QL user would keep us going for years. But we have all seen the appeals for material, and nothing seems to come. To use the buzz word from my own industry (Broadcast TV), it's all down to content. We need content. Ian - Original Message - From: George Gwilt grggw...@gmail.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:18, Tony Firshman wrote: George Gwilt wrote, on 20/Mar/13 18:07 | Mar20: On 20 Mar 2013, at 18:00, Tony Firshman wrote: Ian Burkinshaw wrote, on 27/Mar/13 17:46 | Mar27: Sad though this is, I have to say it seems me inevitable this was going to happen sooner or later. The constant increase in postal rates is self defeating, the more they go up, the less poeple send. Really - so one leg is sending letters (8-)# You mean 'fewer' of course. the less people send means the same number of people send less in total. Not at all, but maybe it is different in Glasgow (8-)# 'Less' and 'Fewer' are referring to 'people' not the letters. Fewer - when the noun can be counted. People, marbles Less - when it cannot. Flour, petrol. Why say there is less sand on the beach when you could, if you had time, count the grains? The other meaning would presumably be written as the smaller the number of people who send Anyway postage is rather high now and certainly to be avoided if possible. The small newsletter produced by the Scottish group SQLUG is now emailed to members. Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG __**_ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htmhttp://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm __**_ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htmhttp://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm __**_ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htmhttp://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Bill Richardson
On 19 Jan 2013, at 16:28, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Thanks for all the kind words about Bill. I am going to pass them on to his son and daughter on Monday. Any more received by midday on Monday will be passed on to them in person. thanks, Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Thank you Tony. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Bill Richardson
I would dearly like to pay my respects to Bill Richardson. Unfortunately, I am not very well myself and there is no one near me I could travel with. There used to be several, but alas, they are also departed. I first met Bill at the ZX Fairs in the Horticultural Hall. His stand was always a profusion of software, hardware and little bits and pieces, manna from heaven to the eager convert. In many respects Bill stood head and shoulders above the rest of us. I remember him telling me how he acted as a go between for Texas Instruments and Timex in Glasgow. Thousands benefitted from his finding them work with out knowing he existed. Sadly missed, I feel grateful for having known him. May God bless you and keep you Bill. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] J Gilpin
I received copy of the mail from John. The senders address is John's, thegilpins at btinternetdot com. I noticed that the reply address is different to the senders address. I did not reply though. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
On 1 Apr 2012, at 19:56, Geoff Wicks wrote: -- From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:40 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book (which I do) is one thing, however obtaining an electronic version from somebody else may indeed break copyright especially if the copyright owner has not yet agreed to this, however I do not know enough about copyright to positively state one way or the other. This is a very good point. One of the mistakes lay people make is to oversimplify law using common sense arguments. When you have worked in a legal setting you tend to be more cautious. When I last was published commercially, the illustration material was all out of copyright, but the publisher asked me to check with the library from which I had obtained the material if there was a fee for using or conditions on using items from their collection. In other words there was a copyright on the original material and a copyright on the library collection. Don't forget than in Jan Jones' case there are also two parties - Jan Jones and the original publisher. This may mean there could be a different legal position between a limited reprinting by Quanta and a complete public release on the internet. This may account for the lack of reply to Dave Park, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Geoff As Quanta did a reprint, the two copyright holders are Jan Jone as the author and Quanta as the publisher. My memory is not too clear on the second reprint as I was not involved. I think the Quanta committee paid someone to do a limited number of photocopied versions. The quality was abominable. Therefore I think this can be ignored. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
On 3 Apr 2012, at 15:04, Dilwyn Jones wrote: To know the exact present copyright position we would have to have access to the legal agreement between Jan Jones and McGraw-Hill; the legal agreement between Jan Jones and Quanta; and any possible legal agreements between Quanta and McGraw-Hill. I doubt this will help much, but inside my copy, a Quanta limited edition one according to the cover, I see the following at the bottom of the Preface to the 2nd Edition page: Copyright Notice As of December 1987 all rights in this book reverted to Jan Jones. No portion of this book may be reproduced without her written permission. On the page before that I also see this: This QUANTA LIMITED EDITION prited in July 1989. Copyright 1989 Quanta. All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced .. without prior written permission of QUANTA, or of the original copyright holder. Now, given my limited legal qualifications - I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV either - but it sounds to me that we can get permission from Quanta or Jan Jones? Quanta have discussed this before and are aware of the 'reverted to Jan Jones' issue. Previous reprints were organised (I think) by Phil Borman and possibly John Taylor. There is an email to this list by John Taylor on 7/3/11: The QL must be very much alive. The used Jan Jones book sold for £23 on eBay. Quanta sold them, new, for £8 JJ got £5 and Quanta paid for the reprint out of their £3. Which at least shows John Taylor has at least some knowledge of the matter. As Sarah is away, I'll ask Alison to delve into past Quanta minutes to see what if any information we can find on the subject, as I don't know whether the original Quanta permission was for one reprint or ongoing. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm The reprint agreement with Jan Jones was organised by Syd Humphries and it would have been he who included the Quanta copyright notice. A lot of secrecy surrounded the agreement as JJ had expressed a wish that the only communication with her would be the annual payments and that on no condition were we to disclose her address or telephone number to the members. As the agreement contained those details it was never made public. The pricing arrangement of £8 was unavoidable. The agreement was to pay JJ £5 for each copy sold and recover the cost of printing. As a non profit making organisation we could not sell the book at a profit, neither could we sell it non members. In those days the turnover of Quanta was such that we would have been liable for VAT if we were a profit making organisation selling to the general public. It was all 21 years ago so my memory is incomplete re the exact agreement and what happened to it. It may have been in a pile of papers that I passed on to John Gilpin. BTW. Syd was the only Quanta member who at different times held all three executive positions of Treasurer, Secretary and Chairman. Unfortunately Syd is one of the many Quanta friends I have lost over the years. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Undue modesty?
On 20 Aug 2011, at 12:04, Tony Firshman wrote: Does anyone use Word for HTML's? I agree with your sentiments absolutely. However when one gets given a complex word file each week for my church's website it is the only practicable way when the designer *demands* html (8-(# It works but is horrendous code. Tony Does Open/Libre Office do any better as that is the one I use? It doesn't render that particular word page at all usably. Tony I have used Libre 3.4 to convert PDF's in Draw. The only problem is the pages do not always line up, but images are in their right place in relation to the text, which for me is the important thing. You need to use the extension PDF Import 1.0.5 John. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Anniversary
Congratulations Urs. On Monday we celebrated our 53rd year of Holy Dedlock. After four children, eight grandchildren, five houses and numerous squabbles, we have lot to look back on. You have a lovely family, you have a lot to look forward to and enjoy. With all best wishes, John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quorums
On 23 Mar 2011, at 15:08, gdgqler wrote: The other issue I have come across in the past is when members have had to leave a meeting early, and then you are running a brief check to ensure that the meeting is still quorate! In that case the Chairman might say, like Magnusson, I've started so I'll finish. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm The Charities Commission ruling on a member leaving the room is that the debate should continue, but voting must wait until the member returns. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quorums
On 23 Mar 2011, at 18:51, gdgqler wrote: Yes, that has always been my view - normally the articles of association for a company stipulate that if a quorum is not present, then the meeting is postponed for a week. Maybe we need something like this in the Quanta constitution, just in case... My suggestions, sent to the Chairman of Quanta and the committee, as to the change in Constitution cover just this very point. Taken from another Constitution it allows the AGM eventually to take place whatever the original quorate position. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Send your suggestions to Geoff as he has undertaken to review the constitution. Do NOT send them to the committee. If you do, like the Atomic Energy Commission, they will spend six months deciding where to put the bike shed. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Committee emails.
Please use committee@qua...@org.uk Sorry John, but that is not a proper email address. I tried the suffix dotorgdotuk, I hope that works. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] AGM
Number 6 is not a proper resolution as you cannot vote for a generalisation. It is ambiguous. It must be a properly defined motion, eg Increase Membership Fees to £20 Whatever is proposed you must be able to say Ay or Nay to it. Number 7 is also ambiguous. If you wish to replace the constitution then the vote must be for a specific change. Each article in the new constitution must be voted on separately. There is no need to change the whole constitution, proposals need to be made that will change specific articles. These proposals must then be put to the members who will then accept or reject them. The very idea that the constitution needs to be altered has not been thought through. The committee would do well to use this board to find out just what changes are required, or are acceptable. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quorums
On 22 Mar 2011, at 16:57, Geoff Wicks wrote: A Quanta member has sent the committee some suggestions for amending the constitution to provide for the situation where an AGM is inquorate. I raised this question at the 2008 AGM and John Mason said that proxy votes count towards a quorum. (The quotation comes from the minutes of the meeting.) I tend to disagree with John on this point, but I am unable to prove that he is wrong. Equally I am unable to prove that he is right. I spent some time researching this last night and came across a lot of contradictory opinions, but no definite legal argument or opinion either way. I wonder if there is anyone with experience of this problem who could point me to a legal source or similar authority that could give a (more or less) definitive answer to the problem. Should it be possible for proxy votes to count towards a quorum and should Quanta wish to do that, it would seem sensible to include it in the constitution so that there is no misunderstanding should an inquorate situation occur. As one of the people who has offered to help in the drafting of a constitution I would be unhappy about including anything about which I was not legally certain, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Geoff The Charities Commission publishes a model constitution which you can get as a PDF file. A quorum must be PRESENT. Present is the operative word. As proxies are unable to take part in any debate, I would say that there is no case for what JM claims. Have you asked him what his authority is for such an exaggerated claim. The Quanta constitution does not support the idea anyway and that is what he was operating under at the time. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Quorums
On 22 Mar 2011, at 18:43, Geoff Wicks wrote: -- From: John Taylor j_taylo...@btinternet.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:18 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quorums On 22 Mar 2011, at 16:57, Geoff Wicks wrote: A Quanta member has sent the committee some suggestions for amending the constitution to provide for the situation where an AGM is inquorate. I raised this question at the 2008 AGM and John Mason said that proxy votes count towards a quorum. (The quotation comes from the minutes of the meeting.) I tend to disagree with John on this point, but I am unable to prove that he is wrong. Equally I am unable to prove that he is right. I spent some time researching this last night and came across a lot of contradictory opinions, but no definite legal argument or opinion either way. I wonder if there is anyone with experience of this problem who could point me to a legal source or similar authority that could give a (more or less) definitive answer to the problem. Should it be possible for proxy votes to count towards a quorum and should Quanta wish to do that, it would seem sensible to include it in the constitution so that there is no misunderstanding should an inquorate situation occur. As one of the people who has offered to help in the drafting of a constitution I would be unhappy about including anything about which I was not legally certain, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Geoff The Charities Commission publishes a model constitution which you can get as a PDF file. A quorum must be PRESENT. Present is the operative word. As proxies are unable to take part in any debate, I would say that there is no case for what JM claims. Have you asked him what his authority is for such an exaggerated claim. The Quanta constitution does not support the idea anyway and that is what he was operating under at the time. This is more or less my opinion, but some people apparently argue that a proxy is a pseudo-presence. One of the arguments used by those in favour of counting proxies as part of the quorum is that some companies use this in their members and shareholders meetings. Others counter this by saying but not in their board meetings, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Geoff Such arguments are nothing more than an advanced form of political correctness. A sort of intellectual one up man ship. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Quanta AGM
I have received my March Quanta magazine and it includes two copies of the Income Expenditure A/C. Pages 35 36, but there is no copy of the Balance Sheet. This may be a One Off, but I doubt it, as pages 35 36 are back to back. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Jan Jones Book
The QL must be very much alive. The used Jan Jones book sold for £23 on eBay. Quanta sold them, new, for £8 JJ got £5 and Quanta paid for the reprint out of their £3. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Being born
I was born at platform 11 waiting room, New Street Station, Birmingham. My first school was Stondon Lower School, which is, ironically, in UPPER Stondon, not Lower Stondon. I went to Churchill College in Cambridge. Anything else? That birthplace is very good isn't it - could be the subject of a David Lean film. Do you like steam trains (8-)# I was born in the same room as my mother in the village post office, Rhydlewis, Wales. Again unusual but not nearly as romantic as yours. Tony Like Topsy, I just growed.. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] 12th February 2011
What do I know about Derby? It's where they say Twosdee. Just outside Derby its Twosdee, ducks, Just down the road in Nottingham they say Shintin Duck. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] IQLR
Tony said It was a really sad end to IQLR. Bob closed the publication just after he had received advanced payment for my year's ads (and others I think). He must have been in real trouble. BobD was in trouble with the bank. They waited until all the renewals came in, then they closed him. That is how they always do it. Bob got the blame for closing when he did. I heard, he had cardiac problems and that he was being treated by the US Medicare. I used to send him boxes of English tea, then the letters stopped. I too would like to know about him. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Today...
On 14 Oct 2010, at 08:55, Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: Does anybody remember what was up Today 10 years ago? http://tinyurl.com/QL2000 Cheers, Urs QLvsJAGUAR - Much more than retro! - Always remember: QL forever! Website: http://www.qlvsjaguar.homepage.bluewin.ch Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/QLvsJaguar Pictures: http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/albums.aspx ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Thank you Urs for kicking my fragile memory back a whole decade. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Sorry if this is Off Topic.
Norman Dunbar If you are using an Intel Mac this little prog will add another function to your print menu so that you can make A5 PDF Booklets from A4 Open Office documents. http://web.mac.com/vogelbusch/Site/Programs/Eintr%C3%A4ge/2007/12/6_Create_Booklet_1.0.1.html John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Cloud computing/.
Malcolm Can't you see. Cloud computing is monopolistic. That is it's great attraction. All computing will finish up in the hands of a select few and they will control everything. If you write a really useful piece of software they will market it for you and if they are not interested there will be no one else to sell it to. Yes there will be choice, but just as there is with supermarkets, it will be limited. What about security? The Cloud vendors may be honest, but what about their employees. Your data could be at risk. I keep photographs on SmugMug, but personal information, no way. The whole idea horrifies me. John Taylor (another long term lurker.) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Emulators
George I have an Intel iMac using Snow Leopard networked with a Laptop G4 and an Epson printer, all networked wirelessly to a BT Modem. No problems with Airport either. I cannot speak about Microsoft emulation because I have no use for it. Most of the problems were with printer drivers. Apple supplied Gutenprint replacements and the old Epson driver had to be removed first. Epson are now supplying updated printer drivers but many will not be available until well into November. I have been using Gutenprint drivers for three years and they are far superior to the standard drivers produced by the manufacturers. They are available in Mac or PC versions. John Taylor On 26 Oct 2009, at 14:49, gdgqler wrote: On 26 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Darren Branagh wrote: Good point Dil, never used this one myself. Plus, for Mac users with a bang up to date Mac (ie. not me!) if you have a Intel chip Mac, as opposed to a power PC based system, you can just use Bootcamp or Parallels, Vrtual PC or similar, and run Windows XP/Vista/7 on the Mac - and I would think QPC should run on that, ie. an emulator running on an emulator? Steve Reyal has a new Mac running vista - very quickly too - care to try QPC on it Steve?? It seems however that almost everyone who has the latest OS X (Snow Leopard) has very poor, or no, wireless connection through Airport. Ethernet will work though. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Gold Card Battery.
John With the Gold Card connecting pins on your left and looking down at the card, the battery is the red square block nearest the bottom. Look at it closely. It has four pins, one at each corner. The top Right hand corner should be marked + The bottom Left hand corner, which is diagonally opposite, should be marked - The other two pins are dead. It is only a push in fit so you can lever it up gently with a knife blade. I cannot remember for sure, but I believe the board is marked + and - underneath the battery too. I hope this helps, John. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1
Hi John There was nothing wrong with my envelope and I have already re-used it. John Taylor On 6 Mar 2009, at 12:06, John Gilpin wrote: I am concerned about the number of emails I am receiving concerning the state of the Envelopes I use for sending out QUANTA Magazines. I shall make sure that ALL the next issue have sellotape reinforcing across the self-adhesive flap but I understand that some of you are experiencing damage all over the envelope. If anyone would like to return one such envelope, I will take it up with the Post Office. Another solution might be to buy some stronger envelopes - more expense but might solve the problem. Thanks to all those who have reported on this problem and to those who haven't yet reported their findings, please do so. Regards to all, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary. - Original Message - From: Go Boy Go(lt) gobo...@tiscali.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:21 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] Fw: Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1 - Original Message - From: Go Boy Go(lt) gobo...@tiscali.co.uk To: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta magazine Volume 26, Issue 1 Hi John (Gilpin) Thanks for your work with QUANTA Re your: Please keep me informed of this problem over the next few issues - whether yours is damaged OR NOT (to get some idea of balance) - it may be worth asking the PO to investigate. My envelopes suffer from extensive fatigue along all/any edge. I.e. in transit, they are randomly 'worn through' where they were folded in manufacture. However nothing has been lost (yet!?). -- Re your: ... the labelling has recently been changed to enable better printing on the Desk Jet rather than the old Dot Matrix which is coming towards the end of its useful life - don't we all!?!? I'll hazard a guess that, as a result, label printing costs have gone up. If not significantly THEN GOTO STOP. If significantly; I can offer QUANTA an hardly used 24pin ESC/P2 Epson LQ-100+ (with documentation etc) free for this purpose. Ribbons are current on-line sales item. I just checked! Nice to be back, John in Wales ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 02/25/09 06:40:00 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Last chance saloon?
Hi Geoff Why not do as Tony suggests, but try this host Best regards, John Taylor. On 8 Feb 2009, at 20:03, Geoff Wicks wrote: The Just Words! website is due to close in a weeks time. The site host, Lycos, is cutting out all unprofitable activities, and although they promised site hosting would remain until at least the end of March they have now brought the closure forward to 15th February. I have been investigating alternative hosts with the intention of making the site a little more professional and until this weekend was intending to relaunch the site as soon as possible. I am now having serious second thoughts and may keep the site permanently closed. Rewriting the site for a new host will be a time consuming task given the numerous links that have to be changed and I have to consider whether the usage of the site - 9 people per week - justifies this time investment. QL activities take up much of my time that could be devoted to other things. In particular I have a number of family history projects that are on permanent hold. I have still not kept a promise to a niece that I made 3 years ago. It is very tempting to abandon the QL to be able to spend more time on family history. The last time I wrote anything for one of the family history magazines I was paid generously for my work. The article produced a large number of reactions including one from a distant relative I had never heard of before and who had masses of family photos. In return she got a mass of detail from me that peviously she had known nothing about. The QL prevents from doing more work like this. If you want something from the Just Words! website, download it in the next 7 days, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Library Guide
Dilwyn The Quanta Library was included in the Welcome Book with occasional revisions issued loose. I lost mine years ago. John Taylor On 25 Nov 2008, at 20:48, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I may one, somewhere ... Was it supplied in binder of some type ? Just so I know what to look out for. No, not bound at all. IIRC it was an A5 folded plain paper type (there wasn't that much in the library in those days). I used to have one, but threw it away years ago. I hope I'm not confusing this with the Chas Dillon Archive guide which was also folded A5 format, I think I still have that somewhere... -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] get back on topic
Roy Every now and again this board indulges in bouts of mental gymnastics. You have taken part in the past, but not this time. Why then are you complaining. John T. On 5 Jun 2006, at 23:34, Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Having just got back and seen the latest QL today, who have I upset, seeing as Roy and Geoff seem to have taken every opportunity possible to have a go at me??? SNIP I am afraid it was mostly me - even the captions on the pictures but, rest assured, you have not upset me at all. It just seems you copped a few humour hits. I am always sure you will take it as light heartedly as I intend it. Feel free to make with the custard pies in my direction. Mind you anything is better than that mindlessly anal retentive discussion of English grammar. Can we move from apostrophes to full stop now please? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] get back on topic
No ?. Sorry! John T. On 6 Jun 2006, at 09:52, John Taylor wrote: Roy Every now and again this board indulges in bouts of mental gymnastics. You have taken part in the past, but not this time. Why then are you complaining. John T. On 5 Jun 2006, at 23:34, Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Having just got back and seen the latest QL today, who have I upset, seeing as Roy and Geoff seem to have taken every opportunity possible to have a go at me??? SNIP I am afraid it was mostly me - even the captions on the pictures but, rest assured, you have not upset me at all. It just seems you copped a few humour hits. I am always sure you will take it as light heartedly as I intend it. Feel free to make with the custard pies in my direction. Mind you anything is better than that mindlessly anal retentive discussion of English grammar. Can we move from apostrophes to full stop now please? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] get back on topic
Thanks Roy. The next time we argue will be the first. I was tempted and I fell. John. On 6 Jun 2006, at 19:11, Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy Every now and again this board indulges in bouts of mental gymnastics. You have taken part in the past, but not this time. Why then are you complaining. To be honest it was not really a complaint more of a joke on the nature of 'full stop' but most of this lengthy discussion, with the exception of entries like Lau's, was hardly mental gymnastics but mostly and exercise in pedantry. I didn't take part because I found it mostly boring. Language evolves. Rules change. The language used by Chaucer was different from that of Shakespeare by a vast degree which was the more correct? It shifts like sand. The rules that we use today owe more to a repressive education system trying hard to glue sand during the end of the 19th and early 20th Century. Go back to an earlier time and no one was fretting about where the apostrophe goes. (In this instance mostly up some people's semi-colon.) What of Joyce and Ulysses? What of Flan O'Brien and 'At Swim Two Birds'? What of Brian Aldiss and 'Barefoot in the Head'? What about the whole host of artistic, creative and inventive geniuses who bent and screwed language with no thought for any of this? Anyhow there you are. I was bored. I made a joke - you didn't get it. No problem. I get just as bored sometimes when people get deeply technical and I often make silly, puerile, jokes then too. Don't turn this into another argument because I am not playing. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] apostrophes
Lynn Truss missed this one. Get the family to punctuate: Woman without her man is nothing John. On 1 Jun 2006, at 01:22, Tony Firshman wrote: Laurence Reeves wrote: snip A la TF, A le TF surely (8-)# I deplore the loss of meaning specificity that a missed apostrophe causes Punctuation rules! Eats shoots and leaves. (Probably, has a diet of both parts of a plant). Eats shoots, and leaves. (Consumes some young bean plants in a Chinky(bleugh!), say, then exits). Eats, shoots and leaves. (Has a meal, fires a gun and departs). Eats, shoots, and leaves. (Ditto, but often with a little less ambiguity) (Ambiguity? A gun? How so?). .. and another Lynn Truss one: The judge, said the prisoner, was mad. The judge said the prisoner was mad. Totally opposite meanings. It is precisely for this reason that punctuation is not allowed in legal documents. However this results in totally incomprehensible sentences to non lawyers! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] apostrophes
Per I don't think so, my daughter has my copy, but where is the apostrophe in shouldnt? John. On 1 Jun 2006, at 10:24, P Witte wrote: John Taylor writes: Lynn Truss missed this one. Get the family to punctuate: Woman without her man is nothing Shouldnt that be: Lynne Truss? Missed this one. See E,SL p9 Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] apostrophes
I know everyone on here would deplore political correctness. The last few days have seen an avalanche of grammar corrections. Correcting other peoples faults is a very satisfying occupation. And the most beautiful words in the English language are I told you so. John Taylor On 30 May 2006, at 20:49, Tony Firshman wrote: George Gwilt wrote: On 29 May 2006, at 13:16, Tony Firshman wrote: Ah I see what you mean - You and I is the plural. Surely you mean 'You and I are the plural'. (8-)# No Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] apostrophes
More can be applied to both quantity and numbers, so why cannot less It is regular practise now to talk about me and you, not you and I. While I agree with you on the use of fewer and less, it must be remembered that English is not a fixed language. I am always deeply suspicious of people who make rules for other people. Who decides what is right and what is wrong in English? John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Failed delivery of e-mails
If you want to check out some ones e-mailer try using this: Go to www.dnsstuff.com You should find a page full of red and blue boxes. At the top of the middle column there is a box called Spam Database Lookup. Enter the IP address you wish to check ( 80.6.xxx.xxx) then click on Look Up in the little box to the right. That is my IP number in there, try one that has a fault. You will jump to another page which will have an all white background if everything is OK, in my case, I think, it said I was successful with 263 servers. If there is something wrong, the top Line will have a red background and it will have the IP number you wish to check. The result column will give you some indication of what is wrong. In the address I checked it told me that that the IP had no DNS reverse entry. I don't know what that means, but I have passed the info. on. I thought you might find this useful sometime. John taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Spam filters.
I have been told that mail sent to me @ntl, from the US is being returned as unable to deliver. Following repeated calls to ntl the spam filter has been removed and I now get all the prescription ads etc. However, I still cannot receive mail from the US. For a while he sent mail to a BT address who then forwarded it to me. now he is using Yahoo mail but that has limitations when including attachments. If anyone has any information I can use it would be very helpful. Happy New Year to one and all. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quill Makeover
When ever Erling Jacobsen did an update to Quill he gave it to Quanta Library. John Taylor On 8 Nov 2005, at 00:33, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Anyway, anybody know why the new Quill is supposed to be Quanta-only? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quill Makeover
How is copyright applied when it belongs to a corporate identity, eg. Psion or Microsoft? My spell checker accepts Microsoft, but it doesn't accept Unix. I wonder why? John Taylor. On 5 Nov 2005, at 23:34, Colin Parsons wrote: John Taylor wrote: Geoff Quanta approached Psion years ago and they raised no objections. They regretted that they were unable to help as the source code had been mothballed, but if ever they had recourse to it they assured Quanta that they would let us have a copy. We were talking, if I remember correctly, about the XChange suite and not just Quill, though the enquiry centred on Quill. Patents have a limited life, it is a pity copyright doesn't too. AFAIK, copyright does have a limited life: it used to be/is something like author.death+50 years. However, in the world of software, that is effectively limitless. Thanks to the EEC it is now Author Life + 70 years Cheers Colin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Spell Checking
Yes Phoebus UNIX is right. I must have an old brit english dictionary. John. On 6 Nov 2005, at 16:48, Phoebus R. Dokos (Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος) wrote: Την Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:40:19 -0500,ο(η) John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] έγραψε: Malcom I am on a Unix based machine. I was spell checking the word not the code and I just wondered why Unix wasn't in he dictionary. BTW: I just checked it with Aspell and Ispell. My old brit english dictionary does not recognise Unix only the capital form of it. However my American dictionaries have both spellings in. Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quill Makeover
Geoff Quanta approached Psion years ago and they raised no objections. They regretted that they were unable to help as the source code had been mothballed, but if ever they had recourse to it they assured Quanta that they would let us have a copy. We were talking, if I remember correctly, about the XChange suite and not just Quill, though the enquiry centred on Quill. Patents have a limited life, it is a pity copyright doesn't too. John Taylor On 5 Nov 2005, at 10:23, gwicks wrote: The status of the GD2 Quill version is a little obscure. As far as I know it is currently only available in the Quanta library and I don't know if the author is willing to have a wider distribution as it is still a beta version. One difficulty in checking this out is that I only have snailmail contact details. In general there is some confusion about the precise status of the Psion software and what can be distributed and what not. No one seemed to know the answer to this when I asked at QL is 21. However, there is a long history of tweaking Quill for various reasons so I assume there are no major problems. I was not sure whether you were offering to do a review, which is best done by a Quanta member. It will be easy to let you have a review copy. Otherwise you should be able to get it from John Gregory, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] A4 or A5
On 8 Aug 2005, at 13:36, Tony Firshman wrote: His wage bill, the biggest cost in most companies, will remain the same. As will his other overheads, Indeed, but applying this logic would mean that evyryone would charge the same for the manual part of any job. Quanta is not his only living, and jobs are related also to time taken. Tony The setting up will take longer on some jobs. On a small run like Quanta, setting up would be over 80% of the total cost. Never the less. John Shelton has never shown any awareness of this as he always charges for the number of copies printed at a pre-arranged price per copy. I prefer the printed A5 copy. A4 increases the printing cost and the postage, and does not confer any great benefits. This topic has been discussed several times at committee meetings, but they always forget why they turned it down last time. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Quanta Magazine
QL is 2! (See page two of Quanta) I can see why they used an exclamation mark, no one thought it would last that long. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Spelin'
I think Geoff might like this. Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a quay and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am rong oar rite It shows me strait aweigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee four two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever rong. Eye halve run this poem threw it I am shure your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew! John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] [OT] What happened to BACC
Tarquin Quanta is still affiliated to BACC as the insurance cover has to be obtained through them. John Gilpin should have the details. I attended several of the BACC AGM's and found them very disappointing. As Chairman of ACCUS you should be able to attend, Try it. I wish you luck. John Taylor On 24 Mar 2005, at 16:52, Tarquin Mills wrote: Quanta used to be affiliated to the British Association of Computer Clubs BACC, what happened to this organisation and are there any replacements, apart from the american APCUG (Association of PC User Groups)? -- Tarquin Mills (Chairman) ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/accus/ http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Spectrum/ (We want a Spectrum +4) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Jan Jones Book
John. I am still, however, very intrigued that the QUANTA limited edition states that there is a Quanta copyright and not that it was reprinted under licence If you look in any technical book you will find that the publisher has accepted the responsibility for maintaining the copyright. This appears to be standard practice and the Quanta publication was no exception. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Jan Jones Book
John Gilpin Don't get excited John. John Mason wrote to me and because he put QLUser in the subject line it was re-routed into my QLUser folder. I then replied to QLUser. Sorry. I have sent a copy to John Mason, but I agree with you, the project is a NoNo. John Taylor. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Tim Why it says Copyright 1989 Quanta I don't know, in fact all the reprints were dated 1989 as no one amended it. The fact remains, copyright is with Jan Jones. If Quanta had bought the copyright there would have been no need to make repeated payments to Jan Jones. In any case I feel this argument is pointless as there are second hand copies available. Rich has got three and doubtless there are many more that could be made available. Quanta has one copy left and, if I remember rightly, has not sold one in the last five years. How many requests have we had? John Taylor On Friday, December 24, 2004, at 05:55 AM, Timothy Swenson wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:46:19 +, John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John You are wrong. Quanta does not own the copyright to the Jan Jones book and never has. Again, I refer my copy of the Quanta reprint sitting in my hot little hands, and it clearly states: Copyright 1989 Quanta This is from the Quanta Reprint Limited Edition of July 1989. If Quanta does not own the copyright, then why did Quanta state that it does, in the book. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
John You are wrong. Quanta does not own the copyright to the Jan Jones book and never has. The agreement was that Quanta had permission to print additional copies in return for a royalty based on the number printed and not on the number sold. Any other form of publication would require a new agreement. It was also stipulated that no correspondence as to the books contents, syntax or understanding was to be considered, neither was the whereabouts or contact details to be divulged to any person who might want to make use of them. This is the second time in as many weeks that you have guessed incorrectly and then stated it as fact. I do not wish to discourage the committee from doing a further reprint but as sales would be limited you ought to show a far better understanding of what you are proposing. If it is of any help, the last reprint Quanta did of the Jan Jones was photo copied and ring bound for less than £7.00, with little or no profit to Quanta as a later committee reduced the selling price. A far better approach would be for Quanta to reprint copies of Rich Mellors manual which includes far more and is readily available as I believe Rich, or the printer, still has the files. John Taylor On Thursday, December 23, 2004, at 12:28 PM, john mason wrote: I notice that Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Friday 17 Dec 2004 20:48:19 -0500, suggested that consideration be given to a further reprint of QL SuperBASIC by Jan Jones - Sounds a good idea in principle, and I am quite willing to cause it to be investigated; but until the likely order of cost can be determined no commitment to do so can be given. Touching briefly on how it might be reproduced - yes it could be OCR'd etc., but it is likely to be cheaper to photo-scan, and then print it using lithography However, the copyright of this book rests in QUANTA, who acquired it from Jan Jones for the benefit of Quanta members. Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a self trading company, that is to say it trades solely for the benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its earnings from sales to them. The positive answer for those who are not at present QUANTA members is to join QUANTA and pay an annual subscription of £14 which includes a free bi-monthly magazine, and the right to buy goods such as Jan's book. At the same time you are strengthening the only voice that is competent to speak for users as a whole of the QL and its derivatives May I wish all ql-users a Joyful Christmas and a Happy New Year John Mason ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Jan Jones Book
Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a self trading company, that is to say it trades solely for the benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its earnings from sales to them. Are Quanta actually allowed to sell to non-members in that case? Assuming sales to non-members are allowed, tax would presumably have to be paid. And you'd have to keep records. It wouldn't matter. A solution such as the one I propose would have someone else making the actual sale :-) snip Quanta is registered as a 'Friendly Society' and as such is exempt from VAT and Corporation Tax provided all trade is internal. Should Quanta be found to be trading with the general public then corporation tax becomes due on ALL profit. That is why no charges are made for entry to workshops. Keeping tax records is already done and an Inland Revenue return is made every year. If the Jan Jones book were sold through a third party, then the third party would have to hold the agreement, not Quanta. The current agreement is with Quanta for books printed and sold by Quanta. You could say, that the agreement was made with Quanta on the understanding that Quanta sold to it's members, avoiding that, whichever way you choose, would in my understanding be inadmissible. I am sorry if I am a wet blanket but I have felt for a long time that there is a serious lack in the perception of what Quanta is and what Quanta is not. Dilwyn made the point that Quanta membership was based on a subscription to the magazine. Nothing could be further from the truth. The subscription is for membership to Quanta, period. Having paid, YOU are Quanta. This does confer certain rights, such as a magazine and attendance at AGM's It also involves accepting some responsibilities, and this is where the members tend to be lacking. If members fail to support Quanta it starts to fall, then it is blamed, but who should you blame? Quanta is YOU. It is not just a committee. If you feel the committee is at fault, then that too is your fault, it is your committee. This may sound unpalatable, but it needed saying. The secretary has asked for nominations for the three officers and up to six other committee members. Is anybody doing anything? John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] ZX fun
Merry Christmas to all. have fun and try this. http://www2.b3ta.com/heyhey16k/ John. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives - how do you store yours?
On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 10:52 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 at 19:13:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) What I really want is a QuBIDE, but SWMBO has curtailed any futher oldecomputer related orders until finances improve :( I have one for sale - bigger hint!! Err...SWMBO? You haven't read Rider Haggard - She who must be obeyed Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Tony SWMBO I always thought this was John Mortimer's Rumpole of the Bailey John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Whither or Wither ?
On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 11:40 AM, John Hall wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by 'levels'. I meant levels of emission At the time very little was understood as to what would constitute acceptable levels of emission. I wrote to the Board of Trade and the MP Malcolm Rifkin ( recommended by George Gwilt ) but did not receive any conclusive answers. A local manufacturing company was consulted as they were known to be involved and they expressed the opinion that as the radiation from the SGC was less than that from several other computer components that bore the CE (sorry about that) mark no one could have a valid claim against us. I don't think this complexity was understood by all the committee and I did not feel that any advantage would have been obtained by informing them. I had enough stick from some of them when they found out I had purchased memory from America without informing them first. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Questionaire
Tony Non Contributing = Thou Shalt Not Pay. Indiscriminate does not include using apostrophe's ' as quotation marks. John Taylor writing as nobody in particular. On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, at 12:33 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 at 11:23:47, John Taylor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Did you say that as Tony or T F Services? We need to know. (8-)# It was too early in the morning to know. Maybe it was neither.. John. Writing as: Non Contributing member of Sutton Coldfield Flat Earth Society and Indiscriminate Apostrophe Users Association. .. but you d'd not use one ap'str'phe (8-)# Is that what 'non contributing' means. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] DD Agreement
Jim and John You have missed the point of my post. I would have had an agreement, a simpler one, not something dreamt up by an amateur lawyer who is trying to impress. What I am still trying to say is, put a proposal before the committee and all they see is problems. Opportunities don't seem to get a look in. QL2004? That proposal was an opportunity. The committee killed it. It was successful in spite of their antipathy. QL2005? That too was on it's deathbed and suddenly it is being resurrected in October! The credit for this must lay with Geoff Wicks. Involuntary activity is not a committee phenomenon. Now I see we are going to have a committee meeting at Byefleet on Saturday. I wonder what brought that sudden rush of blood to the head, or have they got a proposal? We shall see, but I fear my breath will be severely bated. All the discussion has taken place here. Why do we have no discussion in the magazine? The scope for the committee to promote the QL is still there. Let's have no more excuses. Just do what you have to do properly and promptly. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Quanta
Didn't they extend a loan to DD systems to get the Q60 built (further?). (...) Yes they did, and a very straight forward and successful arrangement it was and fully repaid within 12 months. This is the sort of thing that Quanta would be willing to consider for other projects but no one has come forward with a project. John Gilpin.(Treasurer) It wasn't quite as simple as that John. Dennis and Derek asked me if it were possible to get Quanta to market the Q60 so that they could concentrate on the production. I agreed to approach the committee on their behalf. The Chairman, Robin Barker, called a meeting specifically to discuss that and DD were invited to attend. Previous to the meeting the proposal had already met with a flat refusal from the Chairman. He was however willing to discuss financing DD and to that end John Mason turned up with a two and a quarter page legal agreement. This despite not having put in an appearance at two previous committee meetings. My first reaction was to get up and walk out. If DD were to be trusted, a simple statement, even a verbal one, would have been binding. If they weren't to be trusted then we shouldn't have been dealing with them. Finally it was agreed that DD would submit all invoices to me for payment and I would instruct the Quanta Treasurer to make the required payments. In return, when a sale had been completed they would send the money to me and I would place such money in to the Quanta bank account. I kept records and would have acted on these in the event of a dispute. Trust was not always in evidence I am afraid, especially from Robin Barker and John Mason. The rest of the committee merely acquiesced when requested by the Chairman. If the financing of projects is to be conducted in this manner, then they are dead in the water, for heavens sake, we are dealing with people we have known for years. Therein lies the problem. John Mason has never been active among the Quanta members or the QL community beyond the traders, the Dorset sub group and the committee. I have said it before. Attitudes are too deeply ingrained in the current committee, it has become a little closed shop or mutual admiration society. For a healthy active committee you have got to have conflict. The members must believe in what they are doing even if the others disagree. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Quanta
I like the way all the ideas about what Quanta should be in the future are developing. Haven't we heard it all before? Believe me, none of the proposals are original, they have all been discussed and muted, in some cases, several times. The last thing the committee wants is a list of items for future discussion. What is wanted is someone who is willing and able to stimulate some action. This, it must be admitted will be impossible with the present committee. Attitudes there are too deeply ingrained. To put it simply, they have lost the plot. So too have the members of Quanta. There has been little or no evidence of any interest in what the committee are doing and as a consequence the committee have shown very little interest in what the members are doing. Perhaps Quanta has the sort of committee it deserves. Quanta for many years was the backbone of the QL scene and it could be again. You have three months to sort out the mess, and by that I mean, find the right people, elect them, then support them Launching QL2005 could be a start. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
