Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat

2017-05-15 Thread Dave Park 
That's a missing or malformed DKIM record. As yahoo.com and q-v-d.com are
not the same domain name it is an issue.

This explains it clearly:
https://space.dmarcian.com/how-can-spfdkim-pass-and-yet-dmarc-fail/

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:13 AM, Jan Bredenbeek  wrote:

> On 15 May 2017 at 12:35, Graeme Gregory  wrote:
>
> >
> > And to answer original question, the headers are intact and show it
> > passing through yahoo.com SMTP server so its route matches its From:
> > address.
> >
> > If you look at the headers your spam filter should tell you why it
> > selected an email as spam.
>
>
> There are a lot of headers but this is probably the interesting part:
> (I use Gmail on my own domain)
>
> ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
>dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@yahoo.com;
>spf=neutral (google.com: 69.163.254.50 is neither permitted nor
> denied by best guess record for domain of
> ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com)
> smtp.mailfrom=ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com;
>dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.com
> Return-Path: 
> Received: from diego.dreamhost.com (diego.dreamhost.com. [69.163.254.50])
> by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o3si6247470pld.210.2017.05.13.
> 12.18.44
> for 
> (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128);
> Sat, 13 May 2017 12:18:44 -0700 (PDT)
> Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.163.254.50 is neither permitted
> nor denied by best guess record for domain of
> ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com) client-ip=69.163.254.50;
> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@yahoo.com;
>spf=neutral (google.com: 69.163.254.50 is neither permitted nor
> denied by best guess record for domain of
> ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com)
> smtp.mailfrom=ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com;
>dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.com
>
> Jan.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat

2017-05-15 Thread John Alexander 
Dilwyn you are a victim of domain keys you need to sort out your Mail man 
instance  to send proper keys not spoof the senders keys causing the mail to be 
rejected often silently
DomainKeys Identified Mail
  
|  
|   |  
DomainKeys Identified Mail
 DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) is an email authentication method designed 
to detect email spoofing. It allows...  |  |

  |

 
  From: Graeme Gregory <gra...@xora.org.uk>
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
 Sent: Monday, 15 May 2017, 11:06
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat
   


On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 11:01 AM, pg...@q40.de wrote:
> On 15 May 2017 at 10:34, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 10:21 AM, Jan Bredenbeek wrote:
> > > On 13 May 2017 at 21:18, Dilwyn Jones <dilwy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This is unplanned and short notice, sorry, seven of us are already on
> > > > Online chat tonight (now) if anyone else would like to join in!
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Didn't miss it, but your mail ended up in my spam box (which happens with
> > > more of your mails). Are you sending mail with a Yahoo-address from Yahoo
> > > itself or through your own server?
> > > 
> > That won t make any difference once its been process by mailing list.
> 
> That's not sure, because the yahoo address remains in the "From" 
> field of the email header, which the spam filter might process.
> 
Yes, but it makes no difference if that was faked in original mail or
not once the mailing list has accepted it ;-)

Graeme
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat

2017-05-15 Thread Jan Bredenbeek 
On 15 May 2017 at 12:35, Graeme Gregory  wrote:

>
> And to answer original question, the headers are intact and show it
> passing through yahoo.com SMTP server so its route matches its From:
> address.
>
> If you look at the headers your spam filter should tell you why it
> selected an email as spam.


There are a lot of headers but this is probably the interesting part:
(I use Gmail on my own domain)

ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com;
   dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@yahoo.com;
   spf=neutral (google.com: 69.163.254.50 is neither permitted nor
denied by best guess record for domain of
ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com)
smtp.mailfrom=ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com;
   dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.com
Return-Path: 
Received: from diego.dreamhost.com (diego.dreamhost.com. [69.163.254.50])
by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o3si6247470pld.210.2017.05.13.12.18.44
for 
(version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128);
Sat, 13 May 2017 12:18:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.163.254.50 is neither permitted
nor denied by best guess record for domain of
ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com) client-ip=69.163.254.50;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
   dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@yahoo.com;
   spf=neutral (google.com: 69.163.254.50 is neither permitted nor
denied by best guess record for domain of
ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com)
smtp.mailfrom=ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com;
   dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=yahoo.com

Jan.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat

2017-05-15 Thread Graeme Gregory 


On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 11:28 AM, pg...@q40.de wrote:
> On 15 May 2017 at 11:06, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 11:01 AM, pg...@q40.de wrote:
> > > On 15 May 2017 at 10:34, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 10:21 AM, Jan Bredenbeek wrote:
> > > > > On 13 May 2017 at 21:18, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > This is unplanned and short notice, sorry, seven of us are already 
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > Online chat tonight (now) if anyone else would like to join in!
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Didn't miss it, but your mail ended up in my spam box (which happens 
> > > > > with
> > > > > more of your mails). Are you sending mail with a Yahoo-address from 
> > > > > Yahoo
> > > > > itself or through your own server?
> > > > > 
> > > > That won t make any difference once its been process by mailing list.
> > > 
> > > That's not sure, because the yahoo address remains in the "From" 
> > > field of the email header, which the spam filter might process.
> > > 
> > Yes, but it makes no difference if that was faked in original mail or
> > not once the mailing list has accepted it ;-)
> 
> If I understood correctly, it ended in a local spambox, after going 
> through the list server. For which the preservation of the "From" 
> flied is a possible explanation.
> 
And to answer original question, the headers are intact and show it
passing through yahoo.com SMTP server so its route matches its From:
address.

If you look at the headers your spam filter should tell you why it
selected an email as spam.

Graeme
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat

2017-05-15 Thread pgraf 
On 15 May 2017 at 11:06, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 11:01 AM, pg...@q40.de wrote:
> > On 15 May 2017 at 10:34, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 10:21 AM, Jan Bredenbeek wrote:
> > > > On 13 May 2017 at 21:18, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > This is unplanned and short notice, sorry, seven of us are already on
> > > > > Online chat tonight (now) if anyone else would like to join in!
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Didn't miss it, but your mail ended up in my spam box (which happens 
> > > > with
> > > > more of your mails). Are you sending mail with a Yahoo-address from 
> > > > Yahoo
> > > > itself or through your own server?
> > > > 
> > > That won t make any difference once its been process by mailing list.
> > 
> > That's not sure, because the yahoo address remains in the "From" 
> > field of the email header, which the spam filter might process.
> > 
> Yes, but it makes no difference if that was faked in original mail or
> not once the mailing list has accepted it ;-)

If I understood correctly, it ended in a local spambox, after going 
through the list server. For which the preservation of the "From" 
flied is a possible explanation.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat

2017-05-15 Thread Graeme Gregory 


On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 11:01 AM, pg...@q40.de wrote:
> On 15 May 2017 at 10:34, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 10:21 AM, Jan Bredenbeek wrote:
> > > On 13 May 2017 at 21:18, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This is unplanned and short notice, sorry, seven of us are already on
> > > > Online chat tonight (now) if anyone else would like to join in!
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Didn't miss it, but your mail ended up in my spam box (which happens with
> > > more of your mails). Are you sending mail with a Yahoo-address from Yahoo
> > > itself or through your own server?
> > > 
> > That won t make any difference once its been process by mailing list.
> 
> That's not sure, because the yahoo address remains in the "From" 
> field of the email header, which the spam filter might process.
> 
Yes, but it makes no difference if that was faked in original mail or
not once the mailing list has accepted it ;-)

Graeme
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat

2017-05-15 Thread pgraf 
On 15 May 2017 at 10:34, Graeme Gregory wrote:

> On Mon, 15 May 2017, at 10:21 AM, Jan Bredenbeek wrote:
> > On 13 May 2017 at 21:18, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:
> > 
> > > This is unplanned and short notice, sorry, seven of us are already on
> > > Online chat tonight (now) if anyone else would like to join in!
> > >
> > 
> > Didn't miss it, but your mail ended up in my spam box (which happens with
> > more of your mails). Are you sending mail with a Yahoo-address from Yahoo
> > itself or through your own server?
> > 
> That won t make any difference once its been process by mailing list.

That's not sure, because the yahoo address remains in the "From" 
field of the email header, which the spam filter might process.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat

2017-05-15 Thread Jan Bredenbeek 
On 13 May 2017 at 21:18, Dilwyn Jones  wrote:

> This is unplanned and short notice, sorry, seven of us are already on
> Online chat tonight (now) if anyone else would like to join in!
>

Didn't miss it, but your mail ended up in my spam box (which happens with
more of your mails). Are you sending mail with a Yahoo-address from Yahoo
itself or through your own server?

Jan.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL FOrum online chat

2014-11-27 Thread François Van Emelen 


Dilwyn Jones schreef op 26/11/2014 om 22:00:

A few of us are already on the QL FOrum online chat tonight, if anyone wants to 
pop in for a QL chat!

Dilwyn
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I haven't subscribed to the QL Forum (yet)
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL FOrum online chat

2014-11-27 Thread graeme 

On 2014-11-27 10:07, François Van Emelen wrote:

Dilwyn Jones schreef op 26/11/2014 om 22:00:
A few of us are already on the QL FOrum online chat tonight, if anyone 
wants to pop in for a QL chat!


Dilwyn
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I haven't subscribed to the QL Forum (yet)
François Van Emelen



There is no forum membership required its a standard IRC channel

irc.mibbit.net
#qlforum

There are normally a couple of us hanging about, although we might be 
slow to respond as we are at work!


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum Online Chat

2014-11-27 Thread graeme 

On 2014-11-27 20:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

After the success of last night’s online chat, several of us are
already online tonight if any more would like to join us.

Just login to QL Forum if you’re a member and click  on the Online Chat 
link.




Or fire up your favourite IRC client and goto

irc.mibbit.net
#qlforum

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum Online Chat

2014-11-27 Thread Dilwyn Jones 

Oh boy, not just typos, can't even get people's names right now...sorry G
Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: Dilwyn Jones

Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:50 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum Online Chat

Sorry, yes, I should have mentioned it's possible to join in without
actually being a member of QL Forum (as Graham says). As a member, I always
join the online chat via the Forum login :-)

Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: gra...@xora.org.uk

Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:46 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum Online Chat

On 2014-11-27 20:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

After the success of last night’s online chat, several of us are
already online tonight if any more would like to join us.

Just login to QL Forum if you’re a member and click  on the Online Chat 
link.




Or fire up your favourite IRC client and goto

irc.mibbit.net
#qlforum

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum Online Chat

2014-11-27 Thread graeme 
Even in Scotland where Graeme is the more common form no-one ever gets 
it right :-)


G

On 2014-11-27 21:28, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
Oh boy, not just typos, can't even get people's names right now...sorry 
G

Dilwyn

-Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:50 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum Online Chat

Sorry, yes, I should have mentioned it's possible to join in without
actually being a member of QL Forum (as Graham says). As a member, I 
always

join the online chat via the Forum login :-)

Dilwyn

-Original Message- From: gra...@xora.org.uk
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:46 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum Online Chat

On 2014-11-27 20:37, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

After the success of last night’s online chat, several of us are
already online tonight if any more would like to join us.

Just login to QL Forum if you’re a member and click  on the Online 
Chat link.




Or fire up your favourite IRC client and goto

irc.mibbit.net
#qlforum

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight

2014-10-09 Thread Alexandre Souza 


   Dilwyn, there are users outside of the usual locations of QL Forum 
users. Like me, as an example?


   When it will be? GST time, please? :)

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- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk

To: QL-Users list ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:43 PM
Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight


I hope Peter (vanpeebles on QL Forum) doesn’t mind me copying this here – I 
thought it might be worth a try as I don’t know how many people get Forum 
messages regarding the Online Chat in time, without logging in and 
searching for them.


Peter says that the online chat for QL Forum members will be manned from 
8pm tonight. He points out it’s the last one before the QL Is 30 show.


To join in, all Forum members have to do is login to the forum, and click 
on the ‘Online Chat’ link. Usually there’s anythign from 3 to 6 of us at 
any one time, would be great if we had a load of people on tonight just 
before QL Is 30!


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight

2014-10-09 Thread Graeme Gregory 
We are actually already online.

irc.mibbit.net #qlforum

:-)

Graeme

On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 02:26:18PM -0300, Alexandre Souza wrote:
 
Dilwyn, there are users outside of the usual locations of QL Forum
 users. Like me, as an example?
 
When it will be? GST time, please? :)
 
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 - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones
 dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk
 To: QL-Users list ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:43 PM
 Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight
 
 
 I hope Peter (vanpeebles on QL Forum) doesn’t mind me copying this here –
 I thought it might be worth a try as I don’t know how many people get
 Forum messages regarding the Online Chat in time, without logging in and
 searching for them.
 
 Peter says that the online chat for QL Forum members will be manned from
 8pm tonight. He points out it’s the last one before the QL Is 30 show.
 
 To join in, all Forum members have to do is login to the forum, and click
 on the ‘Online Chat’ link. Usually there’s anythign from 3 to 6 of us at
 any one time, would be great if we had a load of people on tonight just
 before QL Is 30!
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones 
U.K. is on 'summer time' at the moment which is GMT +1hr (like western 
Europe I think). So 8pm UK time will be GMT 7pm (19:00 GMT).


I'm not too sure about Brazil - like some large countries I think you have 
more than one time zone there?? Plus I don't know the dates of Summer Time 
there.


The easiest explanation is that Peter will be online in just over 1 hour 
from now, I think :-)


(I think I might have just made it even more complicated, sorry!)

Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: Alexandre Souza

Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 6:26 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight


   Dilwyn, there are users outside of the usual locations of QL Forum
users. Like me, as an example?

   When it will be? GST time, please? :)

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- Original Message - 
From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk

To: QL-Users list ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:43 PM
Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight


I hope Peter (vanpeebles on QL Forum) doesn’t mind me copying this here – I 
thought it might be worth a try as I don’t know how many people get Forum 
messages regarding the Online Chat in time, without logging in and 
searching for them.


Peter says that the online chat for QL Forum members will be manned from 
8pm tonight. He points out it’s the last one before the QL Is 30 show.


To join in, all Forum members have to do is login to the forum, and click 
on the ‘Online Chat’ link. Usually there’s anythign from 3 to 6 of us at 
any one time, would be great if we had a load of people on tonight just 
before QL Is 30!


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-11 Thread Dave Park 
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Wolfgang Lenerz
w...@scp-paulet-lenerz.com wrote:
 Hi,


 If I create a REPeat loop thus:

 100 Frame=0 : Keypress=0
 110 REPEAT loop
 120   a$=INKEY$
 130   Frame=Frame+1
 140   IF a$ THEN Keypress=Keypress+1
 150   AT 0,0 : PRINT Frame, Keypress
 160 END REPeat loop

 ...I reasonably expect that when a key is pressed, the Keypress value
 will increase in step with the Frame value (every time the loop
 repeats, a keypress is detected) but no. I can type run, and hold down
 the enter key, and Frame will increment 55 times for each detected
 Keypress. It seems INKEY$ is limited to approx 15 keyboard scans/sec.
 On my original QL, with or without GC, they increment together, 1:1.

 OK, i'm going out on a limb there.
 That's probably because the emulator you use is so much faster.
 So the loop gets called much more often, but the keys are only input into
 the machine at normal speed (probably every 50th of a second?).
 Moreover, the QL will probably generate an interrupt for every key pressed,
 wheres again, the emulator probably will only generate an interrupt every
 50th of a second (guessing here).

 Wolfgang

That does seem to be what's going on, yes. I believe the keyboard
buffer gets updated every 1/15th of a second, and that even the Gold
Card isn't fast enough to do all the calculations and check the
buffer.

That being said, it's still a wrong behavior in the sense that
INKEY$ is not like INPUT but is more like KEYROW - both should
instantaneously check if a key is pressed and report if so. Just a
curiosity of the way the IS interacts with the hardware, I guess. :)

A good thing to know, though. *scribbles in Book Of Ql Weirdnesses!

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-11 Thread Marcel Kilgus 
Dave Park wrote:
 That being said, it's still a wrong behavior in the sense that
 INKEY$ is not like INPUT but is more like KEYROW - both should
 instantaneously check if a key is pressed and report if so.

Unlike KEYROW INKEY$ does NOT check the current keyboard status, it
just gets the next byte out of the input buffer of the given channel.
The only difference to BGET is that it returns the result as a string.
The key press could have happened 5 minutes ago for all it's worth.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-10 Thread Alan Horsley 



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To: QL Users List ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum


Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?

When I try this morning I get the error


General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
repaired [145]

An sql error occurred while fetching this page.


If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-10 Thread peet vanpeebles 


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Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

 Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?

 When I try this morning I get the error


 General Error
 SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
 Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
 repaired [145]
 An sql error occurred while fetching this page.


 If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?

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It's been down again but back up and working. We are looking at moving to 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-10 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz 

Hi,


If I create a REPeat loop thus:

100 Frame=0 : Keypress=0
110 REPEAT loop
120   a$=INKEY$
130   Frame=Frame+1
140   IF a$ THEN Keypress=Keypress+1
150   AT 0,0 : PRINT Frame, Keypress
160 END REPeat loop

...I reasonably expect that when a key is pressed, the Keypress value
will increase in step with the Frame value (every time the loop
repeats, a keypress is detected) but no. I can type run, and hold down
the enter key, and Frame will increment 55 times for each detected
Keypress. It seems INKEY$ is limited to approx 15 keyboard scans/sec.
On my original QL, with or without GC, they increment together, 1:1.


OK, i'm going out on a limb there.
That's probably because the emulator you use is so much faster.
So the loop gets called much more often, but the keys are only input 
into the machine at normal speed (probably every 50th of a second?).
Moreover, the QL will probably generate an interrupt for every key 
pressed, wheres again, the emulator probably will only generate an 
interrupt every 50th of a second (guessing here).


Wolfgang

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread Norman Dunbar 

On 08/06/12 11:25, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?

Yes,


SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
repaired [145]
An sql error occurred while fetching this page.

There's a corruption in the phpbb_sessions table that needs to be fixed.


If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?
This might help http://community.mybb.com/thread-32115.html where there 
are instructions on using phpMyAdmin to fix tables in a MySql database.



Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread Dave Park 
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Dilwyn Jones
dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?

 When I try this morning I get the error


 General Error
 SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
 Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
 repaired [145]
 An sql error occurred while fetching this page.


 If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?

 Dilwyn Jones

I'm getting that too. Looks like they need to fix their database just
a little bit.

And just when I was about to ask a question that suits the forum, but
would get me a pat on the head here! ;)

SIDETRACK:

The question is: is their a limit on the size of a value that can be
handled by DIV?

Example:
tempsecs=99 --- no problem
days=tempsecs DIV 86400 --- overflows if tempsecs=32768

Another oddity I discovered:

If I create a REPeat loop thus:

100 Frame=0 : Keypress=0
110 REPEAT loop
120   a$=INKEY$
130   Frame=Frame+1
140   IF a$ THEN Keypress=Keypress+1
150   AT 0,0 : PRINT Frame, Keypress
160 END REPeat loop

...I reasonably expect that when a key is pressed, the Keypress value
will increase in step with the Frame value (every time the loop
repeats, a keypress is detected) but no. I can type run, and hold down
the enter key, and Frame will increment 55 times for each detected
Keypress. It seems INKEY$ is limited to approx 15 keyboard scans/sec.
On my original QL, with or without GC, they increment together, 1:1.

Q-EmuLator 1.1, JS ROM
QL, JSU ROM

Just throwing that in here, completely off topic ;)

Dave, playing with stuff
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread peet vanpeebles 
From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk
To: QL Users List ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2012, 11:25
Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?

When I try this morning I get the error


General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
repaired [145]
An sql error occurred while fetching this page.


If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?

Dilwyn Jones

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Second time it's gone off this week! I'll have a quick look but it might be a 
job for Rob. It's been up and down like brides nightie!

Pete.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread peet vanpeebles 
- Original Message -

From: Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2012, 11:39
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

On 08/06/12 11:25, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?
Yes,

 SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
 Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
 repaired [145]
 An sql error occurred while fetching this page.
There's a corruption in the phpbb_sessions table that needs to be fixed.

 If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?
This might help http://community.mybb.com/thread-32115.html where there are 
instructions on using phpMyAdmin to fix tables in a MySql database.


Cheers,
Norm.

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Ha! That worked, many thanks Norman :) All back up and running.

Pete.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread Norman Dunbar 

On 08/06/12 11:57, peet vanpeebles wrote:


Second time it's gone off this week! I'll have a quick look but it might be a 
job for Rob. It's been up and down like brides nightie!


Sounds to me like you have a table going corrupt. Could be down to a bad 
bit of disc? Especially if it's the same table each time.


I'd be thinking of shutting down, taking a backup, and recreating the 
table (at the very minimum) and reloading it again from the backup - 
assuming MySql lets you do that - I'm more of a Firebird and Oracle man 
myself!


Have fun.


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread Tobias Fröschle 

Am 08.06.2012 um 12:54 schrieb Dave Park:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Dilwyn Jones
 dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?
 
 When I try this morning I get the error
 
 
 General Error
 SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
 Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
 repaired [145]
 An sql error occurred while fetching this page.
 
 
 If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?
 
 Dilwyn Jones
 
 I'm getting that too. Looks like they need to fix their database just
 a little bit.
 
 And just when I was about to ask a question that suits the forum, but
 would get me a pat on the head here! ;)
 
 SIDETRACK:
 
 The question is: is their a limit on the size of a value that can be
 handled by DIV?
 
 Example:
 tempsecs=99 --- no problem
 days=tempsecs DIV 86400 --- overflows if tempsecs=32768
 
 Another oddity I discovered:
 
 If I create a REPeat loop thus:
 
 100 Frame=0 : Keypress=0
 110 REPEAT loop
 120   a$=INKEY$
 130   Frame=Frame+1
 140   IF a$ THEN Keypress=Keypress+1
 150   AT 0,0 : PRINT Frame, Keypress
 160 END REPeat loop
 
 ...I reasonably expect that when a key is pressed, the Keypress value
 will increase in step with the Frame value (every time the loop
 repeats, a keypress is detected) but no. I can type run, and hold down
 the enter key, and Frame will increment 55 times for each detected
 Keypress. It seems INKEY$ is limited to approx 15 keyboard scans/sec.
 On my original QL, with or without GC, they increment together, 1:1.
 
 Q-EmuLator 1.1, JS ROM
 QL, JSU ROM
 
 Just throwing that in here, completely off topic ;)
 
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Dave,

Question I:
DIV is an INTEGER divide. Will only work on INTEGERs in the range -32768 to 
+32767 (while I seem to recall that -32768 DIV x doesn't work on some ROM 
versions)

Cheers, 
Tobias

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread Dave Park 
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Tobias Fröschle
tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote:

 Am 08.06.2012 um 12:54 schrieb Dave Park:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Dilwyn Jones
 dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?

 When I try this morning I get the error


 General Error
 SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
 Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
 repaired [145]
 An sql error occurred while fetching this page.


 If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?

 Dilwyn Jones

 I'm getting that too. Looks like they need to fix their database just
 a little bit.

 And just when I was about to ask a question that suits the forum, but
 would get me a pat on the head here! ;)

 SIDETRACK:

 The question is: is their a limit on the size of a value that can be
 handled by DIV?

 Example:
 tempsecs=99 --- no problem
 days=tempsecs DIV 86400 --- overflows if tempsecs=32768

 Another oddity I discovered:

 If I create a REPeat loop thus:

 100 Frame=0 : Keypress=0
 110 REPEAT loop
 120   a$=INKEY$
 130   Frame=Frame+1
 140   IF a$ THEN Keypress=Keypress+1
 150   AT 0,0 : PRINT Frame, Keypress
 160 END REPeat loop

 ...I reasonably expect that when a key is pressed, the Keypress value
 will increase in step with the Frame value (every time the loop
 repeats, a keypress is detected) but no. I can type run, and hold down
 the enter key, and Frame will increment 55 times for each detected
 Keypress. It seems INKEY$ is limited to approx 15 keyboard scans/sec.
 On my original QL, with or without GC, they increment together, 1:1.

 Q-EmuLator 1.1, JS ROM
 QL, JSU ROM

 Just throwing that in here, completely off topic ;)

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 Dave,

 Question I:
 DIV is an INTEGER divide. Will only work on INTEGERs in the range -32768 to 
 +32767 (while I seem to recall that -32768 DIV x doesn't work on some ROM 
 versions)

 Cheers,
 Tobias

I don't see an FP version of DIV. Is there one?

Dave
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread Dave Park 
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Dave Park plasticu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Tobias Fröschle
 tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote:

 Am 08.06.2012 um 12:54 schrieb Dave Park:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Dilwyn Jones
 dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 Anyone else having problems accessing QL Forum?

 When I try this morning I get the error


 General Error
 SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
 Table ‘./qlforum_phpbb/phpbb_sessions’ is marked as crashed and should be 
 repaired [145]
 An sql error occurred while fetching this page.


 If Rob or Pete are reading this, perhaps you could take a look to see?

 Dilwyn Jones

 I'm getting that too. Looks like they need to fix their database just
 a little bit.

 And just when I was about to ask a question that suits the forum, but
 would get me a pat on the head here! ;)

 SIDETRACK:

 The question is: is their a limit on the size of a value that can be
 handled by DIV?

 Example:
 tempsecs=99 --- no problem
 days=tempsecs DIV 86400 --- overflows if tempsecs=32768

 Another oddity I discovered:

 If I create a REPeat loop thus:

 100 Frame=0 : Keypress=0
 110 REPEAT loop
 120   a$=INKEY$
 130   Frame=Frame+1
 140   IF a$ THEN Keypress=Keypress+1
 150   AT 0,0 : PRINT Frame, Keypress
 160 END REPeat loop

 ...I reasonably expect that when a key is pressed, the Keypress value
 will increase in step with the Frame value (every time the loop
 repeats, a keypress is detected) but no. I can type run, and hold down
 the enter key, and Frame will increment 55 times for each detected
 Keypress. It seems INKEY$ is limited to approx 15 keyboard scans/sec.
 On my original QL, with or without GC, they increment together, 1:1.

 Q-EmuLator 1.1, JS ROM
 QL, JSU ROM

 Just throwing that in here, completely off topic ;)

 Dave, playing with stuff
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 Dave,

 Question I:
 DIV is an INTEGER divide. Will only work on INTEGERs in the range -32768 
 to +32767 (while I seem to recall that -32768 DIV x doesn't work on some ROM 
 versions)

 Cheers,
 Tobias

 I don't see an FP version of DIV. Is there one?

 Dave

To answer my own question, hours=INT(tempsecs/3600) works fine :)

Yay programming at 6:30am on no sleep!

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread Dilwyn Jones 

Question I:
DIV is an INTEGER divide. Will only work on INTEGERs in the 
range -32768 to +32767
(while I seem to recall that -32768 DIV x doesn't work on some ROM 
versions)


Cheers,
Tobias


I don't see an FP version of DIV. Is there one?

Dave


DIV and MOD work on 16-bit values in SuperBASIC, 32 bit in SBASIC.

Umm, not sure what you mean by FP version of DIV - by definition it works on 
integer values.


Nearest equivalent to x DIV y would be INT(x/y) but this would also be 
limited to a 32 bit value on both SuperBASIC and SBASIC.


Might be possible to use the TK2 functions FDEC$, IDEC$ and CDEC$ (section 
13.2 of TK2 manual) to work around these limits, but I don't know if they 
are limited to any particular length of number or integer value.


QDOS has problems with the extreme negative values of integers when using 
INPUT.

This text is quoted from Simon Goodwin's ROM bugs articles in QL World:

INTEGER INPUT BUG
A sometimes annoying bug in all QL ROMs: Integers - whole
number values, stored in variables with a per cent sign at the end of their 
names -
can have values between -32768 and 32767. The statement X%=-32768 works 
fine, but

X%=-32769 gives an error, as you might expect.
However you can't INPUT a value of -32768. If you try you get an 'error in
expression' report, because the QL works out the value of the digits before 
it
sorts out the sign, plus or minus - and +32768 is not a valid integer. QDOS 
uses
the same code to convert values from all devices, so the bug is present 
whether

you're INPUT comes from the keyboard or a file.
This is really just sloppy coding on the part of the ROM authors, who seem 
to have
a lot of trouble with the value -32768. Last year I pointed out the weird 
results

you can get using that value with the integer DIV and MOD operators.

Dilwyn Jones 


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-06-08 Thread George Gwilt 

On 8 Jun 2012, at 11:54, Dave Park wrote:

 If I create a REPeat loop thus:
 
 100 Frame=0 : Keypress=0
 110 REPEAT loop
 120   a$=INKEY$
 130   Frame=Frame+1
 140   IF a$ THEN Keypress=Keypress+1
 150   AT 0,0 : PRINT Frame, Keypress
 160 END REPeat loop

INKEY$(-1) will wait until you press a key. INKEY$(3) will wait for 3 ticks for 
your keypress. INKEY$ will return (nearly) immediately.

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-02-26 Thread Malcolm Cadman 
In message 204fa547-9def-4b0b-9920-afd3a733f...@gmail.com, Lee Privett 
lee.priv...@gmail.com writes



What will they think of next as the new hip thing - Progs?


On 23 Feb 2012, at 10:50, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


I’m having problems getting on QL Forum this morning – anyone else tried?

Rob/Pete: if reading this can you check?

Dilwyn Jones


Hi Lee,

Quite likely ... :-)

I think that someone did not quite work out that making an Application 
accessible would become as popular as an App has become.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-02-24 Thread Lee Privett 
What will they think of next as the new hip thing - Progs?


On 23 Feb 2012, at 10:50, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

 I’m having problems getting on QL Forum this morning – anyone else tried?
 
 Rob/Pete: if reading this can you check?
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-02-23 Thread Rich Mellor 

I also cannot access it this morning...


On 23/02/2012 10:50, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I’m having problems getting on QL Forum this morning – anyone else tried?

Rob/Pete: if reading this can you check?

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-02-23 Thread Neil Riley 
Can you access the QL Forum  via Tapatalk (App) ?

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Sent: 23 February 2012 10:58
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

I also cannot access it this morning...


On 23/02/2012 10:50, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-02-23 Thread peet vanpeebles 
Ah it's down for me too, I'll investigate :)

 


 From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk
To: QL Users List ql-us...@q-v-d.com 
Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012, 10:50
Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum
  
I’m having problems getting on QL Forum this morning – anyone else tried?

Rob/Pete: if reading this can you check?

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-02-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones 

Uhh, what on earth is that?

Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: Neil Riley

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:58 AM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

Can you access the QL Forum  via Tapatalk (App) ?

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[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Rich Mellor

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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

I also cannot access it this morning...


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I'm having problems getting on QL Forum this morning - anyone else tried?

Rob/Pete: if reading this can you check?

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2012-02-23 Thread Neil Riley 
It's an APP for the Iphone/ipod/ipad and probably Android devices that lets you 
connect to forums, moderate, chat, etc.

I use it extensively as I'm a forum mod for OldnRubbish (a gaming site for Old 
 Rubbish online players who are sick of ninja teenagers), 
Formed in 2007 so it's mearly a child as a community, same rules apply, we 
chat, we meet up, same old same old :)

Sadly, this is off topic for the QL, but you did ask ;)

Neil

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Uhh, what on earth is that?

Dilwyn

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From: Neil Riley
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

Can you access the QL Forum  via Tapatalk (App) ?

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Sent: 23 February 2012 10:58
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

I also cannot access it this morning...


On 23/02/2012 10:50, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 I'm having problems getting on QL Forum this morning - anyone else tried?

 Rob/Pete: if reading this can you check?

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum doesn't seem to like me?

2011-02-17 Thread peet vanpeebles 
--- On Wed, 16/2/11, Stephen stephen.me...@virgin.net wrote:

 From: Stephen stephen.me...@virgin.net
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum doesn't seem to like me?
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Date: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011, 23:09
 On 13/02/2011 18:33, Tobias Fröschle
 wrote:
  has anyone tried to register with the QL Forum?
  When I try to do that and Agree to terms and
 Conditions, it tells me
 
  Error: ! Sorry, but that doesn't appear to be a valid
 API key. -
  Whatever that should tell me, I can't register.
 
  I /think/ I use a pretty standard firefox on an even
 more standard Linux
  laptop, so would not expect the problem on my side.
 
 No problem here. Laptop, XP  Firefox.  I have
 Linux (Mint) too but 
 rarely use it.
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I havn't seen that problem before but I only use Safari and IE. I have enabled 
the account tofro though :)

Peter.


  
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum doesn't seem to like me?

2011-02-16 Thread Stephen 

On 13/02/2011 18:33, Tobias Fröschle wrote:

has anyone tried to register with the QL Forum?
When I try to do that and Agree to terms and Conditions, it tells me

Error: ! Sorry, but that doesn't appear to be a valid API key. -
Whatever that should tell me, I can't register.

I /think/ I use a pretty standard firefox on an even more standard Linux
laptop, so would not expect the problem on my side.


No problem here. Laptop, XP  Firefox.  I have Linux (Mint) too but 
rarely use it.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum doesn't seem to like me?

2011-02-13 Thread Plastic 
If you email *Robert Heaton **r...@robheaton.co.uk* he can create the
account for you manually. He would probably also like to know about your
problem registering :)

Dave

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Tobias Fröschle 
tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote:

 Gents, (and especially to Peter Scott, should you read here)

 has anyone tried to register with the QL Forum?
 When I try to do that and Agree to terms and Conditions, it tells me

 Error: ! Sorry, but that doesn't appear to be a valid API key. -
 Whatever that should tell me, I can't register.

 I /think/ I use a pretty standard firefox on an even more standard Linux
 laptop, so would not expect the problem on my side.

 Cheers,
 Tobiass

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2011-01-29 Thread Robert Heaton 
On 29 January 2011 12:40, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:

 Just been on QL Forum (www.qlforum.co.uk) and am impressed with the number
 of postings in January. Pete and Rob have done quite a good job with this -
 well done guys.

 Dilwyn Jones


Thanks Dilwyn! :)
We hope the site will continue to grow and grow!

Rob.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum

2011-01-29 Thread Dilwyn Jones 

Just been on QL Forum (www.qlforum.co.uk) and am impressed with the
number
of postings in January. Pete and Rob have done quite a good job
with this -
well done guys.

Dilwyn Jones



Thanks Dilwyn! :)
We hope the site will continue to grow and grow!

Rob.

When I first heard about the QL Forum I was afraid it might fail
because unlike the QL Users mailing list you can't just sit back and
wait for the messages to land in your inbox! You have to actively log
in and read.

Actually, that wasn't quite right because it supports RSS - I usually
just go to qlforum.co.uk and click FEEDS in my browser (can't remember
what it's called in Firefox) . That way I get a feed (a fairly long
listing of the text of the posts) which I can quickly read and if I
want to post a reply I can login to do so. And the FEEDS can give you
either all postings or just the new ones since you last visited.

When I was on earlier today I noticed the list of people on included
some bots. Looks like the Forum is actively letting the search engines
find it and process the postings. If I'm right on this, it means that
the search engines will respond to people searching for things
relating to QL which happen to have been discussed, which is good
because more and more people use forums and the information will be
out there for people to find and hopefully more and more will find the
QL still exists and hopefully either become new or returnign visitors
as we have seen a few examples of here in the last year.

What we need now is more and more ideas like this on how to reach out
to people to attract them to, or back to, the QL.

I've noticed that the little QL-specific search engine on my home page 
gets a fair bit of use, so there are people out there looking for 
information.


Dilwyn Jones



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