RE: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
I'm afraid I have exactly the same results with Marcel's 4.24 version as I do with the new 4.27 version. 'Header_asm' cannot be found - although the path to the file in the message is the correct path to the file on my disc. It's all very confusing :o( I've tried having everything in the win2_ path as well - still the same, I've tried with and without prog_use and data_use set - and even set incorrectly - still the same (once I've chosen the appropriate link file of course !). Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:35 PM To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain Jochen Merz wrote: However, I've never tried to assemble SMSQ, so I think we need to look forward to Marcels help: he generates SMSQ/Es, as we all know. There's nothing special to SMSQ. It just works here. Did also convert one _link file to dev8_ without problem. Will send Norman my binary to try (4.24). Marcel This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Stupid remark, but have you checked the case of the filename, maybe qmake checks names case dependent and is there a difference between the name on disk and in the makefile... (just a thought). Joachim - Original Message - From: Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain I'm afraid I have exactly the same results with Marcel's 4.24 version as I do with the new 4.27 version. 'Header_asm' cannot be found - although the path to the file in the message is the correct path to the file on my disc. It's all very confusing :o( I've tried having everything in the win2_ path as well - still the same, I've tried with and without prog_use and data_use set - and even set incorrectly - still the same (once I've chosen the appropriate link file of course !). Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:35 PM To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain Jochen Merz wrote: However, I've never tried to assemble SMSQ, so I think we need to look forward to Marcels help: he generates SMSQ/Es, as we all know. There's nothing special to SMSQ. It just works here. Did also convert one _link file to dev8_ without problem. Will send Norman my binary to try (4.24). Marcel This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
I have created a test case exactly the same as Per's - and had exactly the same results - ram1_abc_asm not found. :o( Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: P Witte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain Jochen Merz writes: Per and myself mailed several times about his problems. I am using QMAKE for assembling all my sources, including QD, MENU and QSPread - and the link files are rather complex. However, I've never tried to assemble SMSQ, so I think we need to look forward to Marcels help: he generates SMSQ/Es, as we all know. No, its not a problem of complexity. I have described the problem(s) to you in quite some detail after hours of testing, including producing simple test files which should have told you that there is an issue here. None of your suggested solutions had any bearing on the problems I described. Id like to give it a last try: Two test files and a link file: SNIP This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Jochen, cheers for that. I'm using the latest version of QPC - it wouldn't be that would it ? Did you try it on QPC or on a 'proper' (don't flame me please) non-emulated SMSQ - just out of interest ? Marcel is using a 4.24 version which seems to work for him, but not for me. I assume Marcel is using QPC as well, so I could be barking up the wrong tree. It's all very mysterious. Cheers, Norman. PS, Could it be that because Per and I are not Germans, somehow the software has detected this fact and won't work for us :o) - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Jochen Merz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain Hi Per Norman, I have tried your example, Per, created the three files and assembled them with your settings. It worked! What else can I say? I've also tried modifying the settings, using a different Linker - it also worked. Sorry, no clue at all. Maybe Marcel can give clues as he seems to be using it without any trouble, in terms of SMSQ sources. Jochen This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Hi Norman, cheers for that. I'm using the latest version of QPC - it wouldn't be that would it ? Did you try it on QPC or on a 'proper' (don't flame me please) non-emulated SMSQ - just out of interest ? When Per complained first I was using the ATARI TT version, where it worked all the time too. Marcel is using a 4.24 version which seems to work for him, but not for me. I assume Marcel is using QPC as well, so I could be barking up the wrong tree. It's all very mysterious. It is indeed. I would be very much interested in where the problem lies, but I have no guess WHERE to look for. PS, Could it be that because Per and I are not Germans, somehow the software has detected this fact and won't work for us :o) Er - no, there is no detection like this :-) Cheers Jochen
Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Hi Norman, I presume you have accesss to Qmake's source code ? No, Bernd Reinhardt has. But I'm sure he will be helpful if you contact him directly. If so, what exactly does it do to determine that a file with asm extension is more recent than the file with the rel extension when the rel file doesn't exist ? Compare the file dates. I've manaully created the two rel files for Per's test and when this has been done, there is no problem using qmake to run the linker - and a output file is produced. However, if I update one of the source files, we start the whole 'missing file' process again. Yes, file date again :-) In addition, I mistakenly HIT on the CONCATENATE loose item, but cancelled out of the file_select screen. The program then hung with a no-entry pointer. I can reproduce this problem at will. Uh, something more for Bernd. If possible, I'd also like to be able to configure off the 'beep on error' noise because I'm getting some wierd looks from my office colleagues at the moment :o) ... and EVEN MORE for Bernd :-)) Please write to him, if you haven't got his email address, let me know. He will be coming with me to Byfleet, so if you can't sort it out before, that would be an ideal chance to get it sorted out there. Cheers Jochen
RE: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Jochen, No worries, can you let me have Bernd's details and I'll contact him please. Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Jochen Merz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain Hi Norman, No, Bernd Reinhardt has. But I'm sure he will be helpful if you contact him directly. SNIP This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Per Witte wrote: Loading the link file into Qmake V4.21 I get: Error: ram1_abc_asm not found. Now, you can bet your bottom euro that that file DOES exist! There is no explanation as to whats going on, no log file and no other error message. Like Norman, I have duplicated your test case and get the same result. However, in my case, I also get the message -XERROR is not a valid option which I think is generated by QMac. If I'm right, this means that ram1_abc_asm is found but never assembled and QMake is actually telling us that it can't find the file it's trying to make, i.e. ram1_abc_rel... It seems to me that the root of the problem is the command string that QMake is sending to QMac, which in turn implies that Jochen, Bernt and Marcel have a version of QMac that understands -XERROR while you, me and Norman do not! The problem with this theory is that I have QMac 1.01 which, according to John Gilpin, is still the version that Quanta supply... John -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ql-users] QMAKE - FIXED !!!!
Anybody know .. (a) what the latest version of QMAC is ? (b) Where to get it from - if no longer a Quanta member ? :o( (c) how to get my hands on the source code otherwise :o) Regards, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Jochen Merz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QMAKE - FIXED Hi Norman, SNIP You should definitely get the latest QMAC, Norman. Cheers Jochen This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Sorry - that was meant to be a private reply to Per. Excuse my inability to address an email correctly :o) - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:18 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain Per, found it ! -XERROR and -PC are not permitted options in the version of QMAC that I have (Quanta 0.10). I have used a file editor to change these options to spaces in the qmake executable. Next problem, my version of qmac doesn't accept CHR(9) as a tab character - it gives 'error 0F Invalid Character' messages instead. I now need to update my assembler. :o( I'll have to rejoin Quanta again now :o) Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990. This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Jochen Merz wrote: well, this could be the solution. The version of QMAC we all have (at least Bernd and myself) is 1.06. Sorry, but it is not quite our fault if the version which Quanta delivers is so very much out of date. Our version 1.06 dates back to March 1998 (only over 4 years) and, thinking about this, I am absolutely sure that I told Quanta a long time ago when I was buying QMACs off them for resale that their version IS very old and they should update it. I'm not saying it's your fault. On the other hand, my QMake documentation does not say anything about the version of QMac that is required/supported. Also, it seems rather odd that a third party (JMS) can supply a more recent version of the GST/Quanta Macro Assembler than Quanta can! Assuming Quanta can't help, would you be able to update my copy at Byfleet? John -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ql-users] qmake, the source and my inferior brain ....
Hi John, I'm not saying it's your fault. On the other hand, my QMake documentation does not say anything about the version of QMac that is required/supported. Oh, it says you should use it together with the latest version of Quanta assembler, because older versions don't support all the features. I cannot really expect that Quanta has not updated their copies for over 4 years, sorry. That's REALLY something one can't expect. Anyway, I should state explicitly that 1.06 or higher is required, to avoid confusion in the future. Also, it seems rather odd that a third party (JMS) can supply a more recent version of the GST/Quanta Macro Assembler than Quanta can! Indeed, indeed. But I was not involved too much in this anyway. There was a discussion between Bernd and Phil Borman, and all I remember was me asking Quanta to update the disks - 'cause every time I got an assembler from them and looked at the disk it was outdated. Assuming Quanta can't help, would you be able to update my copy at Byfleet? I'm sure we can sort something out together with Quanta. RegardsJochen
[ql-users] S_Edit
Ralf Rekoendt has kindly allowed me to make the last commercial release of S_Edit into a freeware release. S_Edit is a comfortable and easy to use editor for plain text and binary files. It's not pointer driven (so no competition for QD Jochen will be glad to hear) but it's a nice simple to use editor with some really nice features for simple text handling. I've used it myself for several years and can recommend it especially as it's now free! It features block handling, word wrap, binary or text editing modes with insert and overtype, but Put, margins, space compression (remove multiple spaces from text files which were justified for example), merge and quite a few other useful facilities. Give it a try, it's free for download from www.soft.net.uk/dj/software/other.html Also on my website, the Wordscheck program is now at v1.92 thanks to continued encouragement from Paul Merdinian. It's now been tested with massive text files containing 225,000 DIFFERENT words and I know Paul has an even larger wordlist on which to test it's word count abilities! Wordscheck is available from www.soft.net.uk/dj/software/other.html For those who can't download such files from the web, both programs will of course be available from my PD library service. -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
Re: [ql-users] S_Edit
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 at 21:09:14, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 00a701c247bc$52519fe0$32065cc3@default) Ralf Rekoendt has kindly allowed me to make the last commercial release of S_Edit into a freeware release. Give it a try, it's free for download from www.soft.net.uk/dj/software/other.html That should be URL:http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/software/other/other.html -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname.demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
