Re: [ql-users] QPC Keyboard
YES, Marcel, that is exactly what I have! What next? Ian -- Message original -- Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:24:32 +0100 From: Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC Keyboard Cc: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: azerty (french) qwerty (english) azertz (german)? The last one should be qwertz, surely. Asked another way, is it perhaps this layout: http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/keyboards/kbdsf.htm (probably only properly viewable with internet explorer, go with the mouse over shift to see the shiftet state) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC Keyboard
Jon, you are right, it is a Swiss keyboard. I would be glad to use your work when finished. But if you can do it maybe I can too. How do you do it, is it frantically difficult? Ian -- Message original -- From: Dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC Keyboard Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:11:09 +0100 Cc: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: If you have a french keyboard: Forget Cueshell. exec QPC with the shift button held down to get the config window. Set code du pays to 33. Then hit the sauver button! Now do OK. AND CHECK your boot file for a line such as kbd_table xx. If this is present, replace xx by 33. I think Ian said he was using a Swiss French keyboard which is hardly like the French keyboard at all. In fact it is much more like the Swiss German (sg) keyboard with the é/ö key set to default to é with shift é being ö etc. If this sounds familiar to you Ian I would gladly supply you my nearly finished sg keyboard table. You would then have to use (something like) : i=RESPR(1024):LBYTES win1_SYSTEM_sg_kbd,i:KBD_TABLE i in you boot file to load it. You could then use Wolfgang's very excellent keyboard configurator (clavier) to swap round the ö/é shifted and nonshifted key configurations. If you want to give it a go Ian, let me know and I will supply you with the necessary files, as I was so kindly supplied them by members of [ql-users] not so many months ago. Jon. P.S. nearly finished means I haven't dealt with the Alt Gr keys properly yet and have set them up as HOT_KEY's in my boot at the moment. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Quanta 2005
Just a quick comment - one of the reasons that the Quanta committee seemed to want the QL 2005 meeting down south was because they thought that Manchester was not capable of holding such a prestigious event. Well its now apparently good enough for the Labour Party Conference as they are moving there... So why not the QL?? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Keyboard
Thanks to everybody who have been responding. Jon Dent has sent me his solution and with one line in my boot the problem is solved. Almost every key (shift or not, AltGr or not) is correct for my Swiss French kbd. Regards, Ian ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL filename length revisited
George writes: Caution! Caution! I was asked by someone to allow any file type to be set by GWASS (other than 255 which is special). This implies that someone somewhere is perhaps setting up file types of 3 to 254 in assembled programs. Suddenly using one of these for another purpose might scare the living daylights of this someone. And so it should. He played with them at his own risk. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL filename length revisited
Isnt the thing to do here to emulate the Windoze solution? Ie, each directory entry has a short filename [SFN] wchich complies in every respect with the old directory specs. The LFN is stored within the directory file in specially marked records, or in a separate file. Eventually, the old system could be removed altogether from hard disks, but would always exist for floppy drives. To develop this idea a bit further: Keep the old directory structure, but use it in a different way. Instead of a combined pathame/filename, each record stores a filename of say max 20 or 22 char long, which may be seen by old programs that read the raw directory structure. Each directory record also stores a unique file number (and possibly additional housekeeping information) and that file number is a unique file identifyer. A separate utility, a Thing, maintains the real, or user, directory structure. It can create or delete sub directories on the old system as it sees fit, to maintain efficient access to its data. It also provides all the directory services, which could eventually include some advanced database functionality. All OPEN calls for the relevant devices go through the Dir Thing. You can supply the full path and filename, or the short name, or the unique file number to locate the file. It would be easy to implement Undelete and shortcuts to such a system. Keeping the old structure allows some degree of backward compatibility, but more importantly it allows one to deal with the files on the file level rather than having to deal with them on the block level - a much bigger and more complicted task. A problem is that many programs that do no more than simply parse a filename, might fall over, but steps could be taken to alleviate a lot of that. The system neednt be mandatory. Only those wanting to read or use long filenames would have to deploy it. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Keyboard
I wonder if Jon's solution could be made available to others? I'll put it on my website when it's finished if you want to. How many users of Swiss keyboard variants are there? I guess that the solution to one such keyboard variation on the more widely used ones could be useful to others to help create different national keyboard layouts too. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL-Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: [ql-users] Keyboard Thanks to everybody who have been responding. Jon Dent has sent me his solution and with one line in my boot the problem is solved. Almost every key (shift or not, AltGr or not) is correct for my Swiss French kbd. Regards, Ian ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] I'm home, dear.
ONE PROBLEM. PROG_USE and DATA_USE are system wide settings and cannot vary between programs. If you launch one program it could read the current PROG_USE and DATA_USE settings at the time that it is started, but again, you have to presume that the user is going to alter these every time that a program is started. This is not exactly user friendly. It would be nice if PROG_USE and DATA_USE settings could be local to each job. If anyone ever attempts ot add this, perhaps the neatest way would be for them to start off with a copy of the default global settings, but for any DATA_USE and PROG_USE commands issued by a job to have a way of setting its own local values. You would then need a way of setting the global ones separately, so perhaps an extra parameter to DATA_USE etc? -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC Keyboard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody noticed that the various combinations with CAPS such as CAPS/SHIFT/ALT etc do not work with recent versions of SMSQE on QPC2 and on Q40/Q60? The combination DOES work with SuperGold Card + Super Hermes because Super Hermes has its own keyboard routine I suppose. Not sure what you're reffering to. Do you mean that with CAPS-LOCK some keys do not work like when SHIFT is pressed? In that case this is by design. There is a difference between a CAPS-LOCK and a SHIFT-LOCK, the first one only altering the capitalisation of characters, and most keyboard layouts use CAPS-LOCK. Marcel I think what he refers to is that according to the Character Set page in the Concepts section of the QL User Guide, different character codes can be returned for CTRL CAPS LOCK, ALT CAPS LOCK, etc on a traditional QL keyboard. In QPC2, these codes are not returned if you use something like PRINT CODE(INKEY$(-1)) and so programs like Perfection from Digital Precision have problems because they actually use these keycodes 224 to 231. I wonder if these keypresses are filtered out at keyboard level on a PC, stopping QPC2 from getting at them? In that case, there is probably no way it can be emulated. AFAIK Perfection was the only program ever to use these keycodes generated by CAPS LOCK and the combinations of SHIFT, ALT and CTRL keys, it might not be worthwhile trying to emulate these keypresses. 224 Caps lock 225 alt caps lock 226 ctrl caps lock 227 alt ctrl caps lock 228 shift caps lock 229 shift alt caps lock 230 shift ctrl caps lock 231 shift ctrl alt caps lock -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QLib maintained
I have drawn a blank with a similar quest in trying to contact David Batty of Sector Software for the Perfection software. Sector Software Attn: Mr D Batty 39 Wray Crescent Ulnes Walton PRESTON Lancs PR26 8HN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01772 454328 Thanks, Yet that is the postal address which has drawn a blank. It is definitely his current address. If you've had no reply, he's ignored or forgotten your letter. There also appears to be several email addresses, for sector software. I have tried : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although it is not unusual for a person to change the latter. There's also another enquiry email address on the Typing Tutor page of his website. I included that one in the list of email addresses I used to try to contact him too. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] I'm home, dear.
I mean things like .. and \ (root directory) of DOS. Yes!! Ok, so at least one likes my idea :-) Two, I hope? Three now, I like the idea of having '..' etc too! Shouldn't we just decide on a suggested value now instead of making it dynamic (things like configuration options can't be dynamic anyway)? Windows has a max path length of 260 characters for example (UNC names can actually be longer, but hardly anybody uses them for local files). As long as it is a reasonable limit. Sure. What's reasonable for you? How about using the same as the enhanced ISO9660 standard (Joliet)? That might be one complication less. Then one day should we ever have CD writing it'll be in place and ready! -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.13 - Release Date: 16/01/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC Keyboard
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 at 17:02:39, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip In QPC2, these codes are not returned if you use something like PRINT CODE(INKEY$(-1)) and so programs like Perfection from Digital Precision have problems because they actually use these keycodes 224 to 231. I wonder if these keypresses are filtered out at keyboard level on a PC, stopping QPC2 from getting at them? In that case, there is probably no way it can be emulated. I think we get all these on superHermes, so if they don;t get through it is not the keyboard, but later on. AFAIK Perfection was the only program ever to use these keycodes generated by CAPS LOCK and the combinations of SHIFT, ALT and CTRL keys, it might not be worthwhile trying to emulate these keypresses. 224 Caps lock 225 alt caps lock 226 ctrl caps lock 227 alt ctrl caps lock 228 shift caps lock 229 shift alt caps lock 230 shift ctrl caps lock 231 shift ctrl alt caps lock snip -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [ql-users] Quanta 2005 Just a quick comment - one of the reasons that the Quanta committee seemed to want the QL 2005 meeting down south was because they thought that Manchester was not capable of holding such a prestigious event. Well its now apparently good enough for the Labour Party Conference as they are moving there... So why not the QL?? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ JG Everyone seems to think that Manchester is built out of Scout Huts (or Headquarters as we prefer to call them!) We are already looking for a more prestigious venue for AGM 2006. Rest assured, We'll find one! Regards, John Gilpin Nemqlug Sub-Group. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Keyboard
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I wonder if Jon's solution could be made available to others? I'll put it on my website when it's finished if you want to. How many users of Swiss keyboard variants are there? I guess that the solution to one such keyboard variation on the more widely used ones could be useful to others to help create different national keyboard layouts too. Good idea to have Jon's solution available to others. Presumably it can be modified to suit other variations that are a problem. Ian did email me privately with the keyboard problem that he was having. My suggestion was to check the language setting in Windows. I had forgotten about the setting check in QPC. However, all of these did not solve the problem until Jon's solution. In addition, I suggested putting the problem to this list/ Once again, it shows what knowledge there is from the subscribers to the list. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL-Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: [ql-users] Keyboard Thanks to everybody who have been responding. Jon Dent has sent me his solution and with one line in my boot the problem is solved. Almost every key (shift or not, AltGr or not) is correct for my Swiss French kbd. Regards, Ian -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
At 18:07 16/01/2005 +, you wrote: Everyone seems to think that Manchester is built out of Scout Huts (or Headquarters as we prefer to call them!) We are already looking for a more prestigious venue for AGM 2006. So the 2005 on the very edge of the country, almost as far away from as many members as possible. Should make for a quiet AGM and for the swapping of hats. You could start from the other end, where do members/users live ? Select a location to suit them, the possible visitors rather than a clique. But from a general point of convenience it would surely be Brum or London. For whom is the prestige being sought ? Is it the 300 or so members, or the handful that responded to the survey, what potential or likely attendance ? Perhaps a Scout hut after all. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [ql-users] Quanta 2005 Just a quick comment - one of the reasons that the Quanta committee seemed to want the QL 2005 meeting down south was because they thought that Manchester was not capable of holding such a prestigious event. Well its now apparently good enough for the Labour Party Conference as they are moving there... So why not the QL?? Because as an organisation Quanta is not worried by massive Liberal Democrat gains in the Manchester area. Whilst I would agree there is a general prejudice against Manchester, or anything north of the Thames, in the QL community, that was not relevant to Quanta's decision. It had much more to do with the cock-up theory. Or our old friends, the keywords PISS_UP and BREWERY. Quanta's current aim is to make the AGM the number one UK show each year. In May 2004 the committee decided to hold a two day show (QL2005) to include the AGM somewhere in the south as it was the south's turn. For reasons that are still unclear to me by the end of October 2004 nothing had been done to organise this. By that time it was too late for the deadlines of both the Quanta Magazine and QL-Today to ensure adequate publicity beforehand or to arrange a show programme. The event was postponed until October and for some reason the decision to remain in the south stuck. John Gilpin would like to have a major event (+AGM) in Manchester at the end of April 2006. Let's be positive and make something good of that, Best Wishes, Geoff (personal) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
- Original Message - From: David Tubbs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005 You could start from the other end, where do members/users live ? Select a location to suit them, the possible visitors rather than a clique. If you are a member of Quanta, you should already know the answer to this question. See my article in the Quanta Magazine Vol 21 issue 5/6 page 14. If you are not a member of Quanta, I am not interested in your opinions about where we hold our AGM, Best Wishes, Geoff (personal) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
