RE: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
Joshua Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the space for / what is the space for /boot what is the space for /home what is the space for /usr what is the space for /var what is the space for /swap what is the space for /tmp How 20th century... If you use Red Hat, it will try to set up appropriate server partitions for you, but it will fail: /usr will be WAY too big /home will probably be too big /var will be WAY too small to accommodate any serious volume of qmail traffic Disk space is cheaper than dirt these days. I recommend: /boot20MB /var 300MB min, 800MB better, more for servers /2GB or more (include /usr and /tmp) /homewhatever you need swap 500MB or more On some systems I go with /boot, /, and swap only. I *hate* running out of space in, say, /var, when /home has gigabytes free... -Dave
Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
On Thursday 07 June 2001 16:00, Dave Sill wrote: /boot20MB /var 300MB min, 800MB better, more for servers /2GB or more (include /usr and /tmp) /homewhatever you need swap 500MB or more In a mail server this fails when you get a mail which is larger than the available size on /var. Thus, have AT LEAST 4GB for /var, then you SHOULD be safe. Same goes with /home if you deliver mail locally. -- Kalle KivimaaWork: +358 (0) 201 500 761 Senior Software Designer Fax: +358 (0) 201 500 799 Akumiitti Telematics Ltd.http://www.akumiitti.fi Salomonkatu 17 B 3.krs, FI-00100 Helsinki, Finland
Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
Kalle Kivimaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a mail server this fails when you get a mail which is larger than the available size on /var. Thus, have AT LEAST 4GB for /var, then you SHOULD be safe. Same goes with /home if you deliver mail locally. You really have users sending multigigabyte messages? Yow. -Dave
Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
* Kalle Kivimaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010607 10:28]: /var 300MB min, 800MB better, more for servers In a mail server this fails when you get a mail which is larger than the available size on /var. Thus, have AT LEAST 4GB for /var, then you SHOULD be safe. Same goes with /home if you deliver mail locally. If your users are filling a /var partition of 4GB, you (a) handle an extraordinary amount of high-latency e-mail, (b) are mismanaging your mail server (hint: databytes), and/or (c) you have extremely rude lusers sending MP3s and whatnot through the system (in which case they need to be beaten). YMMV, /pg -- Peter Green : Architekton Internet Services, LLC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX. (By Stephan Zielinski)
Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
But qmail doesn't deliver to /var/spool/mail. It delivers to users home directory as Mailbox or Maildir/new/TIMESTAMP.PID.HOSTNAME ... I thought? David Kalle Kivimaa wrote: On Thursday 07 June 2001 16:00, Dave Sill wrote: /boot20MB /var 300MB min, 800MB better, more for servers /2GB or more (include /usr and /tmp) /homewhatever you need swap 500MB or more In a mail server this fails when you get a mail which is larger than the available size on /var. Thus, have AT LEAST 4GB for /var, then you SHOULD be safe. Same goes with /home if you deliver mail locally. -- Kalle KivimaaWork: +358 (0) 201 500 761 Senior Software Designer Fax: +358 (0) 201 500 799 Akumiitti Telematics Ltd.http://www.akumiitti.fi Salomonkatu 17 B 3.krs, FI-00100 Helsinki, Finland
RE: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
Kalle Kivimaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a mail server this fails when you get a mail which is larger than the available size on /var. Thus, have AT LEAST 4GB for /var, then you SHOULD be safe. Same goes with /home if you deliver mail locally. Dave Sill wrote: You really have users sending multigigabyte messages? Yow. I first thought the same thing, but then remembered seeing a graphics designer friend of mine email a complete corporate brochure to his printer. Sent 8 emails with attachments of just under 125MB EACH. He had 768DSL, they had T-1. Started the send and went to eat dinner. We got back a couple of hours later and they were done! I asked him why he didn't FTP them and he said, why email is easy! Get many people doing that on your mail server and you are right, Yow is about the only thing you can say! Bill
Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 10:57:54AM -0400, peter green wrote: If your users are filling a /var partition of 4GB, you (a) handle an extraordinary amount of high-latency e-mail, (b) are mismanaging your mail server (hint: databytes), and/or (c) you have extremely rude lusers sending MP3s and whatnot through the system (in which case they need to be beaten). or (d) you are on a busy webserver which logs to /var. I have /var slices (eh, partitions in linux-speak) of 30 GB on some machines. A webserver of this kind shouldn't act as mailserver, though. For partition sizing I'm usually taking 100-200MB for /, 1-2G for swap, 200m for /tmp, 2-4G for /usr, /home dependant of server usage 100m up to 10G an at least 10G for /var (or 1G for /var and at least 10G for /var/log). Greetings Henning -- * Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de * * Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany * Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie)
RE: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
Hey guys! Actually, it only takes a few msaccess databases to get to the gigabyte range, or in my case a couple of sales people travelling and not picking up mail. I'm moving to a 5X36gig system for mail from an e450, once I get the server in. Disk is cheap, why put artifical limits on the server? Go for it killer. You will not regret more disk... the opposite is not! true. -Mike -Original Message- From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0) Kalle Kivimaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a mail server this fails when you get a mail which is larger than the available size on /var. Thus, have AT LEAST 4GB for /var, then you SHOULD be safe. Same goes with /home if you deliver mail locally. You really have users sending multigigabyte messages? Yow. -Dave
Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, peter green wrote: If your users are filling a /var partition of 4GB, you (a) handle an extraordinary amount of high-latency e-mail, (b) are mismanaging your mail server (hint: databytes), and/or (c) you have extremely rude lusers sending MP3s and whatnot through the system (in which case they need to be beaten). All it takes is for someone to send a 300MB attachment to an internal list having about 60 people on it. That's already 18 gigs. Been there, seen that. And the user was a well educated computer professional. With the current disk prices I would _never_ put less than 4 gigs on /var and would try my best to have at least that much free space on /home. Fortunately I'm not currently administering anything more complex than two low-traffic pass-through systems :)
RE: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
like volume wise what is the space for / what is the space for /boot what is the space for /home what is the space for /usr what is the space for /var what is the space for /swap what is the space for /tmp thanks for the help in advance If you use Red Hat, it will try to set up appropriate server partitions for you, but it will fail: /usr will be WAY too big /home will probably be too big /var will be WAY too small to accommodate any serious volume of qmail traffic I can say this with some confidence, because my server (using the 'standard' partition sizes) has quite a bit of software installed on /usr, and is 90% free, but after one week of qmail use, /var filled up (from both queue and logs). --joshua.
RE: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
Your question is more geared toward disk partitions than qmail. There are several books available which may help you. Send me a private email if you need some anmes. However, here is some answers: If you install qmail, /home directory is mainly you concern because that's where email are store. You can make a quick calculation by number of users to megabyte per user. For example if you have 1000 users and each user is estimated to be allocated 6 MB of disk space, then /home directory should be at least 6GB (1000 X 6MB). As far as http goes, again it all depends how many web sites you are going to service and what is the estimated allocation for each site. For example if you are going to service 1000 web sites and each is allocated 10MB then you need 10GB for web sites ( 1000 X 10MB ). Please remember another thing, there is no /http directory. Web pages are stored in directories as defind in your apache.conf file. I normally create a /www directory to store web pages, however you may decide to use andother name. I am not an expert, but I use the following setting: / 2-3GB - I have different books tell differently /boot 32MB /home at least (Number of users) X (space per user) /usr 3GB - You need enough room to install lots of software if you so desire /var 1-2GB - You want enough room for log files make sure this directory has its own mounts or your system will hand if the log files use up all the space /swap twice the size of RAM. Lots of discussion about it.. /tmp I normally do not create any partion for this directory but use /usr I waited to answer this posting because this is really not a qmail issue and I did not want to affend anybody. I also thought of sending a private message but then changed my mind because I am not an expert (by background is 30 years in large IBM systems) in LINUX and somebody else might correct me or add their own expertize. Kirti -Original Message- From: Tom Beer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:07 AM To: hari_bhr; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0) The best way is to start reading lwq. take a look at www.qmail.org where's a link. I don't understand what you mean with httpd applications , but I'm sure I'm not a guru... Tom - Original Message - From: hari_bhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0) hi all i have quick question for the all the gurus of linux and qmail experts. iam newnie for qmail and cpopmail i would like to know what is the best installation linux for only mail and http applications. like volume wise what is the space for / what is the space for /boot what is the space for /home what is the space for /usr what is the space for /var what is the space for /swap what is the space for /tmp thanks for the help in advance _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
Agreeably off topic, but 7.0 was the buggy/broken one. 7.1 has been running smooth here for a little over a month. The only problem I can find is the version of GTK that ships with it, but that's solved by upgrading that package. Other than that, the only thing I'd complain about is (1) redhat opens port 111 with a clean install no matter what and (2) 7.1 installs ssh, but not sshd. That's about all, so I'll shut up now ^^;; David Kieran Barnes wrote: This isn't really on topic, but... We could discuss the best installation of linux for the next several decades. Personally, I'd not use Redhat, but if you set on using Redhat, I'd use 6.2 with all the latest updates. From what I heard, 7.1 was very buggy and broken when it was released. 7.1 might be fixed slightly. 2 of our servers use Redhat 6.2 with the latest updates and they have run fine for several years. As for volume space, read the Redhat guides located at redhat.com - assuming your installing it http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/howto/rhl71.html http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/howto/rhl62.html Regards, Kieran Barnes Signum 1226 Ltd Use our Web site at... http://www.1226.net Phone us on... 01772 622889 Fax us on... 01772 622558
Re: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0)
The best way is to start reading lwq. take a look at www.qmail.org where's a link. I don't understand what you mean with httpd applications , but I'm sure I'm not a guru... Tom - Original Message - From: hari_bhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: better methods to install qmail on linux ( Redhat 6.2 or 7.0) hi all i have quick question for the all the gurus of linux and qmail experts. iam newnie for qmail and cpopmail i would like to know what is the best installation linux for only mail and http applications. like volume wise what is the space for / what is the space for /boot what is the space for /home what is the space for /usr what is the space for /var what is the space for /swap what is the space for /tmp thanks for the help in advance _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
