[qmailtoaster] 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient)

2008-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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... while talking to d_bbdel.redbottle.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 550 5.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied. Unknown user.
550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
<<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient)

I'm sending an email from a mail client on the local network. The tcp.smtp
file is set to allow relaying from all local IP's. Why would the recipient
site think that the email is being relayed? Is is in the headers or something?

Then there is a FAIL message in here yet domainkeys pass. Is this a second
test which we're not checking for?

by mx1.redbottle.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m0ULqkT3030827
(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL)
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:52:47 -0800
Authentication-Results: mx1.redbottle.com [EMAIL PROTECTED];
domainkeys=pass

And then there is this Not Validated note.

>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on mx1.redbottle.com
>Trusted-Delivery-Validation-State: Not validated

On this first message, I got the message back and a note;

Your message was received at Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:55:49 +:

>This account is protected.  Please click on the
>following link to have your address added to the recipient's allowed
>list and to ensure delivery of your email.

The second message I sent made it through however without having to be added
to the recipients allowed mail.

Can someone shed a little light on this?

Mike



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Someone should offer support :)

2008-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have learned that the guys who (truly) know what the h#ll they're
> doing are worth the 1-2 hour expense.

I can't agree with this. I know a lot of network guy's who help out for low
bucks so that they aren't doing everything for free, yet helping and making a
little money on the side. When a big project comes up, they price accordingly.

I'm talking about community support here, not full blown all out support from
someone who is too busy to be able to do that.

Mike



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Someone should offer support :)

2008-01-30 Thread Warren Melnick
On Jan 30, 2008 2:29 PM, Michael Handiboe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have learned that the guys who (truly) know what the h#ll they're
> doing are worth the 1-2 hour expense.
>
> I'll be in touch when I have time to spend with my QMT box.
>
> --mh

I do this for a few clients.  I do not take on anyone just to support
QMT, but I have put it in place for many clients.  I have found QMT to
be a nice stable environment.  The biggest problem I tend to have is
clients who come from other environments and do not understand why the
default is to not let mp3s through and a few other things that are
security risks.

W

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Someone should offer support :)

2008-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> When I had looked at your system using my test domain, messages were
> getting into Yahoo's bulk folder, so they were working (moving them to
> the Inbox will eventually lead to you being able to deliver to Yahoo
> correctly). I did not get around to looking at Hotmail.

Does moving one allow the domain to all of their users though? As for hotmail,
yup, still no answers but then, I've not looked since.

> to your offers, others will not. It's almost like buying a car. Cheapest
> isn't always best, but it will probably get you to work eventually.

It's just a suggestion. This should be a sideline to someone anyhow, it's not
a full time gig unless he/she can get enough people interested, then it might
be. Anyone can hire a pro any time, my suggestion was a pro who's got a little
time on the side to handle something like this.

> Look in the archives for posts from the people offering you support.
> You'll get a quick handle on how knowledgeable a person is by looking at

Good suggestion.

Mike



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Someone should offer support :)

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Handiboe

Jake Vickers wrote:
And don't be put off by time-stingy people. I am one of those people.  I 
have other projects to work on and I don't get a lot of return off of 
QMT work. My donate buttons have yielded enough to pay for the domain 
name for 2 years.  I have actual paying clients who come first. I'd like 
to help more, but I get hundreds of emails a day asking for help.
Look in the archives for posts from the people offering you support. 
You'll get a quick handle on how knowledgeable a person is by looking at 
their pas posts.


I have learned that the guys who (truly) know what the h#ll they're 
doing are worth the 1-2 hour expense.


I'll be in touch when I have time to spend with my QMT box.

--mh



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Someone should offer support :)

2008-01-30 Thread Jake Vickers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First, thanks for all of the private emails on this, I will reply, just caught 
up in some storage problems.


It does seem that someone could make a few bucks at this while helping the 
community. Really, how does one choose someone though?


What I'd like to see is a flat rate. Say $50.00 for general help and upgrades. 
You're called upon to help now and then, no surprises. Sometimes it'll take 5 
minutes, sometimes an hour.


If things go beyond QMT, you can always talk pricing at that point but if it's 
just related to QMT, if you know your stuff, you should be able to figure it 
out quickly.


In my case, I'm just a startup so I can't afford hourly or monthly just yet. 
The person I can count on however will more than likely be the person I'm 
always calling as projects get larger and more commercial.


Any thoughts?

PS: It's great to see people stepping up, thank you.

  


When I had looked at your system using my test domain, messages were 
getting into Yahoo's bulk folder, so they were working (moving them to 
the Inbox will eventually lead to you being able to deliver to Yahoo 
correctly). I did not get around to looking at Hotmail.


As far as choosing someone, you have to do your research.  Look around 
on the product's forums and see who posts contributing emails - ie: who 
actually has answers/suggestions that fix people's problems. Those are 
the people that I would choose to speak to first. Some may be amicable 
to your offers, others will not. It's almost like buying a car. Cheapest 
isn't always best, but it will probably get you to work eventually.


And don't be put off by time-stingy people. I am one of those people.  I 
have other projects to work on and I don't get a lot of return off of 
QMT work. My donate buttons have yielded enough to pay for the domain 
name for 2 years.  I have actual paying clients who come first. I'd like 
to help more, but I get hundreds of emails a day asking for help. 

Look in the archives for posts from the people offering you support. 
You'll get a quick handle on how knowledgeable a person is by looking at 
their pas posts.



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Someone should offer support :)

2008-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First, thanks for all of the private emails on this, I will reply, just caught
up in some storage problems.

It does seem that someone could make a few bucks at this while helping the
community. Really, how does one choose someone though?

What I'd like to see is a flat rate. Say $50.00 for general help and upgrades.
You're called upon to help now and then, no surprises. Sometimes it'll take 5
minutes, sometimes an hour.

If things go beyond QMT, you can always talk pricing at that point but if it's
just related to QMT, if you know your stuff, you should be able to figure it
out quickly.

In my case, I'm just a startup so I can't afford hourly or monthly just yet.
The person I can count on however will more than likely be the person I'm
always calling as projects get larger and more commercial.

Any thoughts?

PS: It's great to see people stepping up, thank you.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Someone should offer support :)

2008-01-30 Thread Eric "Shubes"
Michael Handiboe wrote:
> Jake Vickers wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> I wonder if someone would be interested in offering support for QMT?
>>
>> Erik Espinoza and I are both listed as QMT consultants on the wiki.
> 
> I would be willing to pay for an hour or less, for one of you gurus to
> log into my QMT server and just look it over, make sure my anti-spam is
> set up right, other settings/tweaks make sense, maybe update it, etc.
> 
> Of course, you'd have to know what I'm doing and generally why ... to
> know what's best for my setup.  I can handle that part!  :)
> 
> Michael
> 

I'd be happy to do this for you Michael. You can contact me off list.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Someone should offer support :)

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Handiboe

Jake Vickers wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wonder if someone would be interested in offering support for QMT?


Erik Espinoza and I are both listed as QMT consultants on the wiki.


I would be willing to pay for an hour or less, for one of you gurus to 
log into my QMT server and just look it over, make sure my anti-spam is 
set up right, other settings/tweaks make sense, maybe update it, etc.


Of course, you'd have to know what I'm doing and generally why ... to 
know what's best for my setup.  I can handle that part!  :)


Michael

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam folders

2008-01-30 Thread PakOgah

Cameron wrote:
I'm still getting everything configured for my new Qmail Toaster and 
it looks like SA is automatically configured to be running. My 
question is how is it confiugured by defualt. Is it blocking, tagging, 
redirecting? What I would like is for it to tag, but then redirect to 
a spam folder for each user. Anywone have experience with this?


Cameron


Perhaps this can answer you
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg17100.html

Redirecting email tagged with ***SPAM*** to SPAM folder on each user 
requires you to recompile qmailadmin

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/FAQs#I_upgraded_my_QmailToaster_to_the_latest_and_I_no_longer_have_the_.22Spam_Detection.22_box_in_Qmailadmin.

yes I have experiend with this, users keep ignoring what I said to check 
their SPAM folder before complaining to me that they didn't rcvd email

so I deactivate it again. :)

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[qmailtoaster] Spam folders

2008-01-30 Thread Cameron
I'm still getting everything configured for my new Qmail Toaster and it 
looks like SA is automatically configured to be running. My question is how 
is it confiugured by defualt. Is it blocking, tagging, redirecting? What I 
would like is for it to tag, but then redirect to a spam folder for each 
user. Anywone have experience with this?


Cameron 



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