Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-12 Thread Eric Shubes
George Toft wrote:
 Looking at the type of mail that I receive, 2.2-2.8 provides a good
 balance of minimizing spam, and getting [virtually] no false positives.
 
 Perhaps I'm trying to tune SA with the wrong tool (adjusting the score)?
  When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.  Maybe
 I need a screwdriver?
 
 George Toft, CISSP, MSIS
 623-203-1760
 

Your screwdriver would be RBLs (if you're using the stock default). Quite
effective and efficient.

-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-12 Thread George Toft

I love the PBL - it immediately cut my spam by 60% (judging from the logs).

George Toft, CISSP, MSIS
623-203-1760




Eric Shubes wrote:

George Toft wrote:


Looking at the type of mail that I receive, 2.2-2.8 provides a good
balance of minimizing spam, and getting [virtually] no false positives.

Perhaps I'm trying to tune SA with the wrong tool (adjusting the score)?
When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.  Maybe
I need a screwdriver?

George Toft, CISSP, MSIS
623-203-1760




Your screwdriver would be RBLs (if you're using the stock default). Quite
effective and efficient.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-11 Thread George Toft
Putting yahoogroups in local.cf seems to have increased the spam score 
by 0.9:


X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on
server.northvalleycomputing.com
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.3 required=2.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,
HTML_TINY_FONT autolearn=no version=3.1.8
X-Spam-Report:
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  1.4 HTML_TINY_FONT RAW: body contains 1 or 0-point font
*  0.9 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list
Received: from unknown (HELO n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.26)
  by server.northvalleycomputing.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2007 06:49:21 -


Contents of /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf:
# These values can be overridden by editing ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs.cf
# (see spamassassin(1) for details)
# These should be safe assumptions and allow for simple visual sifting
# without risking lost emails.

ok_locales all
skip_rbl_checks 1

required_score 2.2
report_safe 0
rewrite_header Subject ***SPAM***

use_pyzor 1

use_auto_whitelist 1

use_bayes 1
use_bayes_rules 1
bayes_auto_learn 1


# 04/02/07 NVC: Allow yahoogroups.com
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] yahoo.com





So how do I make the score reduce if the mail is in the AWL?



George Toft, CISSP, MSIS
623-203-1760




Jake Vickers wrote:

George Toft wrote:


Closely related . . .

How do I whitelist based on a header field?  I belong to a couple of 
mailing lists and some messages are getting flagged as ***SPAM***.  
Can I whitelist messages based on any of these headers:


X-eGroups-Approved-By: azipaegroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web; 02 
Apr 2007 22:53:49 -


Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

List-Id: azipa.yahoogroups.com


I've tried editing local.cf (seems to be wrong) and 
/usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf.  I might be in the right 
place on the latter, but need a gentle shove in the right direction.


You were in the right spot. You don't want to edit the files in 
/usr/shares/spamassassin as they'll be deleted whenever an upgrade comes 
around.
You want to put the entries in your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf 
file. Just make sure you lint it and restart the daemon when finished:

spamassassin -D --lint
And for restarting the daemon you can download a script from my site 
(v2gnu.com) called qmail-spam or install QT-Plus (qtp.qmailtoaster.com) 
as it's included in there. You can also do it manually:
   svc -d /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log
   svc -t /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log
   svc -u /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log



And you would whitelist yahoogroups.com
I know there's been a running thread on the best way to whitelist Yahoo 
groups on the spamassassin mailing list. Might want to peek at their 
archives.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-11 Thread Jake Vickers

George Toft wrote:
Putting yahoogroups in local.cf seems to have increased the spam score 
by 0.9:


X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on
server.northvalleycomputing.com
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.3 required=2.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,
HTML_TINY_FONT autolearn=no version=3.1.8
X-Spam-Report:
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  1.4 HTML_TINY_FONT RAW: body contains 1 or 0-point font
*  0.9 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list
Received: from unknown (HELO n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.26)
  by server.northvalleycomputing.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2007 06:49:21 
-



We'd need to see the full headers to see where the email is coming from




# 04/02/07 NVC: Allow yahoogroups.com
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] yahoo.com



I personally don't lock down my config that much, so I would use:
whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can do the received way, but I think you can only define 1 per line:
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then restart spamd and it should get a little better.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-11 Thread George Toft

Hi Jake,

Here are the headers . . .


From - Wed Apr 11 00:56:31 2007
X-Account-Key: account1
X-UIDL: 1176274162.6630.server.northvalleycomputing.com,S=18178
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 
Return-Path: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 6628 invoked by uid 89); 11 Apr 2007 06:49:22 -
DomainKey-Status: bad
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 6622, pid: 6623, t: 0.9315s
 scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.90.1-exp/m:42/d:2691 spam: 3.1.8
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on
server.northvalleycomputing.com
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.3 required=2.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,
HTML_TINY_FONT autolearn=no version=3.1.8
X-Spam-Report:
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  1.4 HTML_TINY_FONT RAW: body contains 1 or 0-point font
*  0.9 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list
Received: from unknown (HELO n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.26)
  by server.northvalleycomputing.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2007 06:49:21 -
Received-SPF: none (server.northvalleycomputing.com: domain at 
returns.groups.yahoo.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)

Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com;

b=KCSruvypzTqYlQSrC8nagKE9GdXJA1tx8AsHVgVI5WMlIlwgIREHEhayV6UgIwjz6SXV/6lG7yrCYu3NhlpVa4RmfaBe/eLzEPbEmY2hUu2bicjmIT14N8xMLeVD7nvf;
Received: from [209.73.164.83] by n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 
11 Apr 2007 06:49:19 -
Received: from [66.218.67.85] by t7.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 
Apr 2007 06:49:19 -

X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 3517437-m1790
Received: (qmail 17957 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2007 06:49:18 -
Received: from unknown (66.218.66.70)
  by m49.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2007 06:49:18 -
Received: from unknown (HELO n7c.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (69.147.64.167)
  by mta12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2007 06:49:18 -
Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n7.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 
11 Apr 2007 06:48:29 -
Received: from [66.218.69.4] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 
Apr 2007 06:48:29 -
Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 
Apr 2007 06:48:29 -

X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 87929 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2007 19:07:52 -
Received: from unknown (66.218.67.35)
  by m31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Apr 2007 19:07:52 -
Received: from unknown (HELO n31b.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com) (209.131.38.209)
  by mta9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2007 19:07:52 -
Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n31.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 
10 Apr 2007 19:05:37 -
Received: from [66.218.69.1] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 
Apr 2007 19:05:37 -
Received: from [66.218.66.90] by t1.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 
Apr 2007 19:05:37 -

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82
X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster
X-Originating-IP: 209.131.38.209
X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0
X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 68.3.11.126
From: Tony Deblon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Yahoo-Profile: antonyd1976
X-eGroups-Approved-By: azipaegroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web; 11 Apr 
2007 06:48:29 -

Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Id: aztech-work.yahoogroups.com
Precedence: bulk
List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:05:37 -
Subject: ***SPAM*** [aztech-work] C++ Application Developer with Tivoli 
Storage Manager

X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email-ff
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary=F2wXmUQ1XMxgz6e9YfpmR3BQK3zzUP6k7CN7Yvz
X-Spam-Prev-Subject: [aztech-work] C++ Application Developer with Tivoli 
Storage Manager


--F2wXmUQ1XMxgz6e9YfpmR3BQK3zzUP6k7CN7Yvz
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


George Toft, CISSP, MSIS
623-203-1760




Jake Vickers wrote:

George Toft wrote:

Putting yahoogroups in local.cf seems to have increased the spam score 
by 0.9:


X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on
server.northvalleycomputing.com
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.3 required=2.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,
HTML_TINY_FONT autolearn=no version=3.1.8
X-Spam-Report:
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  1.4 HTML_TINY_FONT RAW: body contains 1 or 0-point font
*  0.9 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list
Received: from unknown (HELO n32.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.26)
  by server.northvalleycomputing.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2007 06:49:21 
-



We'd need to see the full headers to see where the email is coming from




# 04/02/07 NVC: Allow yahoogroups.com

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-11 Thread Jake Vickers

George Toft wrote:

Hi Jake,

Here are the headers . . .


X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.3 required=2.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,
   
That score is rather low in my opinion. The default required is 5. 
Almost all of the scores in SA are geared to get it above the 5 score, 
so almost all of them will score above 2.2





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-11 Thread George Toft
Looking at the type of mail that I receive, 2.2-2.8 provides a good 
balance of minimizing spam, and getting [virtually] no false positives.


Perhaps I'm trying to tune SA with the wrong tool (adjusting the score)? 
 When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.  Maybe 
I need a screwdriver?


George Toft, CISSP, MSIS
623-203-1760




Jake Vickers wrote:

George Toft wrote:


Hi Jake,

Here are the headers . . .


X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=2.3 required=2.2 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE,
   


That score is rather low in my opinion. The default required is 5. 
Almost all of the scores in SA are geared to get it above the 5 score, 
so almost all of them will score above 2.2





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-05 Thread Jake Vickers

George Toft wrote:

Closely related . . .

How do I whitelist based on a header field?  I belong to a couple of 
mailing lists and some messages are getting flagged as ***SPAM***.  
Can I whitelist messages based on any of these headers:


X-eGroups-Approved-By: azipaegroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web; 02 
Apr 2007 22:53:49 -


Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

List-Id: azipa.yahoogroups.com


I've tried editing local.cf (seems to be wrong) and 
/usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf.  I might be in the right 
place on the latter, but need a gentle shove in the right direction.
You were in the right spot. You don't want to edit the files in 
/usr/shares/spamassassin as they'll be deleted whenever an upgrade comes 
around.
You want to put the entries in your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf 
file. Just make sure you lint it and restart the daemon when finished:

spamassassin -D --lint
And for restarting the daemon you can download a script from my site 
(v2gnu.com) called qmail-spam or install QT-Plus (qtp.qmailtoaster.com) 
as it's included in there. You can also do it manually:
   svc -d /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log
   svc -t /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log
   svc -u /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log



And you would whitelist yahoogroups.com
I know there's been a running thread on the best way to whitelist Yahoo 
groups on the spamassassin mailing list. Might want to peek at their 
archives.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-05 Thread George Toft

Thanks, Jake.

Do you sleep?  Answering e-mail at 3:54am?  Yikes!

George Toft, CISSP, MSIS
623-203-1760




Jake Vickers wrote:

George Toft wrote:


Closely related . . .

How do I whitelist based on a header field?  I belong to a couple of 
mailing lists and some messages are getting flagged as ***SPAM***.  
Can I whitelist messages based on any of these headers:


X-eGroups-Approved-By: azipaegroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web; 02 
Apr 2007 22:53:49 -


Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

List-Id: azipa.yahoogroups.com


I've tried editing local.cf (seems to be wrong) and 
/usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf.  I might be in the right 
place on the latter, but need a gentle shove in the right direction.


You were in the right spot. You don't want to edit the files in 
/usr/shares/spamassassin as they'll be deleted whenever an upgrade comes 
around.
You want to put the entries in your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf 
file. Just make sure you lint it and restart the daemon when finished:

spamassassin -D --lint
And for restarting the daemon you can download a script from my site 
(v2gnu.com) called qmail-spam or install QT-Plus (qtp.qmailtoaster.com) 
as it's included in there. You can also do it manually:
   svc -d /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log
   svc -t /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log
   svc -u /var/qmail/supervise/spamd 
/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log



And you would whitelist yahoogroups.com
I know there's been a running thread on the best way to whitelist Yahoo 
groups on the spamassassin mailing list. Might want to peek at their 
archives.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-04 Thread George Toft

Closely related . . .

How do I whitelist based on a header field?  I belong to a couple of 
mailing lists and some messages are getting flagged as ***SPAM***.  Can 
I whitelist messages based on any of these headers:


X-eGroups-Approved-By: azipaegroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] via web; 02 Apr 
2007 22:53:49 -


Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

List-Id: azipa.yahoogroups.com


I've tried editing local.cf (seems to be wrong) and 
/usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf.  I might be in the right place 
on the latter, but need a gentle shove in the right direction.


George Toft




Jake Vickers wrote:

Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote:


Friends,
we have a phone system that will get a fax and then send it as an email.
the email is mostly an attachment ( tif )
 
my challenge is that these are being marked as ***spam***
 
I think ... i need to whitelist or somehow always let mail that is from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
to come through.  note it is coming from within my domain
and I have looked at ( and edited the var/qmail/control/simcontrol )  
so i know the problem is not the attachment (tif)


In your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf:
whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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[qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-03 Thread Jim Shupert, Jr.
Friends,
we have a phone system that will get a fax and then send it as an email.
the email is mostly an attachment ( tif )

my challenge is that these are being marked as ***spam***

I think ... i need to whitelist or somehow always let mail that is from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

to come through.  note it is coming from within my domain
and I have looked at ( and edited the var/qmail/control/simcontrol )  so i know 
the problem is not the attachment (tif)

i think this dab of fun is the clue - Received: from unknown
Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.mydom.com) (192.168.200.1)

--
the entire headers look like this

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Received: (qmail 26725 invoked by uid 89); 3 Apr 2007 20:17:12 -

Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.mydom.com) (192.168.200.1)

  by sifter.pps-inc.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2007 20:17:12 -

Date: Tue Apr 03 21:18:02 2007 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Toshiba FAX Message 12C48ABF

X-TOSHIBA-TAIS-STRATAGY-ES-ID: 314870463.8355

X-TOSHIBA-TAIS-STRATAGY-ALLOW-REPLY: 0

X-TOSHIBA-TAIS-STRATAGY-FROM-UAID: -7

Mime-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=-==_ 
==__314870463.8355:1175635082_2262b105 _==__--

 


Re: [qmailtoaster] Fax as tif

2007-04-03 Thread Jake Vickers

Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote:

Friends,
we have a phone system that will get a fax and then send it as an email.
the email is mostly an attachment ( tif )
 
my challenge is that these are being marked as ***spam***
 
I think ... i need to whitelist or somehow always let mail that is from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
to come through.  note it is coming from within my domain
and I have looked at ( and edited the var/qmail/control/simcontrol )  
so i know the problem is not the attachment (tif)

In your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf:
whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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