Re: [QUAD-L] Beds

[DAANOO]

Hi Bill,
 
I don't think I remember you.  Nice to meet you.  Congratulations  on getting 
your bed for free, that was great 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty

[Dan]

I don't think that's their purpose. Why do we have to have a passport to visit 
Canada? It wasn't Canada that required this it was us. Why? You now as well as 
I that photo IDs  (ask any college student) as well as passports can and are 
forged all the time. Our government is not talking about illegal immigrants but 
about terrorists'.  

I live in the northeast and have made several trips to Canada. It felt great to 
cross the border with no hassle or having to produce 'papers'. This is just 
another ploy by are government to distract us into believing that this will 
make us safe from terrorists. 

Dan

At 05:33 PM 1/11/2008 -0600, Eric W Rudd said something that elicited my 
response:
  
>Damn Dan...ur gonna make me defend W?  The photo IDs r a must...for 1, the 
>illegal immigrant vote.  I've an ID...wats the biggie?  If u get pulled over, 
>damn it the cops need 2 know who u ri'm not a romney supporter, but hey, 
>if u r not suppose to b here, go to cuba, iran, mexico, francei don't care 
>GET THE HELL OUTA MY COUNTRY so my lame ass country'll quit supporting ur ass.
>
>Eric W Rudd
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>- Original Message - 
>From: Dan 
>To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:09 PM 
>Subject: [QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty
>
>That's right W. Be afraid, be very afraid. That's just what the leaders of 
>this country want because a population that is afraid is willing to give up it 
>rights and freedom so the government can 'take care of them'. If you don't 
>believe me, why are we all going to be required to get picture IDs in order to 
>enter federal buildings and get on a plane? And passports to visit Canada! We 
>are AMERICANS damn it! But now we must 'produce der papers' or will be in big 
>trouble. Romney wants to double the size of Gitmo! Hum, maybe so those of us 
>that don't have der papers will be considered enemy combatants and shipped off 
>to Cuba. But don't worry, it's just to keep us good (complacent) people 
>'safe'. After all, we're at war - a war that will never end.   
>
>Dan - who refuses to get der papers   
>
>
>
>At 03:55 PM 1/11/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited my 
>response: 
>  
>>The operative word is due caution.  In some cases its for stealing info.  And 
>>in other cases its for personal protection, especially if one is home by 
>>themselves a good portion of the day. 
>>  
>>Maybe its just because I've returned from a meeting with the United States 
>>Attorney Office, for the Northern District and learned from the Feds what is 
>>happening on a nationwide basis.  Just use caution in what you decide to post 
>>and once it is posted on the internet, its there for the world to see. 
>>  
>>I was amazed to learn that White, Educated, Males, make up the greatest 
>>portion of internet fraud, 
>>injury and theat using the computer. How do you like dem apples.. wink 
>>wink. 
>> 
>>
>>Best Wishes 
>>  
>>In a message dated 1/11/2008 10:33:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
>>PROTECTED] writes: 
>>It's funny how some people are afraid of doing business using the Internet. 
>>My brother is one of them. He's afraid to use his banks' website to pay his 
>>bills because someone might steal his info. Instead, he prefers to send a 
>>check with all of his bank info as well as his address and phone number 
>>through the mail! Talk about insecure!
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Start the year off right. 
>>Easy 
>>ways to stay in shape in the new year. 

Re: [QUAD-L] how to post

[wheelchair]

Thank You Eric.  It came thru loud and clear.  Dan has every  right to aire 
his feeling and opinion.
Its the American Thing.  We have American Soldiers that continue to  protect 
our country and other countries for that very right.  Misguided??  No, just 
very opinionated.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 9:05:55 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
did my other posts come throughthe misguided dan? thnx  will.

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 


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Re: [QUAD-L] how to post

[Eric W Rudd]

Wally, 

did my other posts come throughthe misguided dan? thnx will.

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] how to post


  You've posted and its here.  Sometimes it takes a few minutes for the 
postings to hit the site.
  Longer when its slower.  But you are here.

  Best Wishes

  In a message dated 1/11/2008 8:51:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Hey Kevin, could you tell me how to post to the quad list.  I just joined 
and tried posting but nothing happened.

I am a t-1 & t-2 incomplete quad.
Thank you
Bill of Illinois





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Re: [QUAD-L] how to post

[wheelchair]

You've posted and its here.  Sometimes it takes a few minutes for the  
postings to hit the site.
Longer when its slower.  But you are here.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 8:51:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hey Kevin, could you tell me how to post to the  quad list.  I just joined 
and tried posting but nothing  happened.
 
I am a t-1 & t-2 incomplete quad.
Thank  you
Bill of  Illinois





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Re: [QUAD-L] how to post

[Eric W Rudd]

reply to all but then in the addy bar delete all but quad-list@eskimo.com

Eric W Rudd (of Illinois)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dr. William E. Heft 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:51 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] how to post


  Hey Kevin, could you tell me how to post to the quad list.  I just joined and 
tried posting but nothing happened.

  I am a t-1 & t-2 incomplete quad.
  Thank you
  Bill of Illinois

[QUAD-L] how to post

[Dr. William E. Heft]

Hey Kevin, could you tell me how to post to the quad list.  I just joined and 
tried posting but nothing happened.

I am a t-1 & t-2 incomplete quad.
Thank you
Bill of Illinois

Re: [QUAD-L] Beds

[wheelchair]

Hi Bill
Welcome aboard and the suggestion!
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 8:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hello John.  I am Bill  and have just  joined the list.  I am a T-1 & T-2 
incomplete quad.  About the  issue of the bed.  I was given one free of charge 
from our local VFW  group.  They tradionally do good deeds for the disabled.  
Just a  thought.
 
Bill in  Illinois






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[QUAD-L] Beds

[Dr. William E. Heft]

  Hello John.  I am Bill  and have just joined the list.  I am a T-1 & T-2 
incomplete quad.  About the issue of the bed.  I was given one free of charge 
from our local VFW group.  They tradionally do good deeds for the disabled.  
Just a thought.

  Bill in Illinois

Re: [QUAD-L] spinal fusion

[D. B.]

Danny what your describing sounds like you might have a
syrnix.  I would suggest that you take a look at the attached 
websites that can explain your possible problem
 
http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/archive/index.php/t-5966.html
http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/index.php

I'm a dwarf and I have had several back surgeries because of 
my spinal stenosis.  I've been cut open and fused from C1 to C7 
and then from S1 to T8.  I also have rods that help stabilize my
back that run from L3 to T8.  I currently have a syrnix that's located
in my C2 to C5 area that has given me a lot of pain and increased 
numbness which in turn causes me to take more meds.  There's 
a lot of excess pain not only in my back where the rods are, but I 
also have a constant pain that feels like someone is squeezing 
my groin and abdomen area.  The doctor tells me that the syrnix
is causing this pain.

David B.

- Original Message 
From: Danny Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:52:32 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] spinal fusion

 I was originally fused from my skull to T1…. The doctors at Craig 
then removed some to give me head movement….. But I haven’t felt what your 
describing…. I think any grinding is bad and
 should be checked…. Better safe than sorry!
 
   Danny Espinoza 24/m/California
   Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security engineer
   Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2
   TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord
   off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to
   asymmetric SCI"
 
   http://secureminds.us/
 
 
 
   From: Stacy Harim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:52 PM
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: [QUAD-L] spinal fusion
   
  

   
 For those of you who dont know, I had to have my spine fused in several places 
last May.  Well it really began hurting last week like something was rubbing.  
After the fusion was done, I had to have a screw removed b/c it was too close 
to my aeorta so I worried something was shifting and went to my doctor.  My 
neurosurgeon is out of town so I went to my pain doc bc he used to be a 
neurosurgeon at the University of MD.  We had xrays done and he doesnt see 
anything that would require me to have surgery, but I am in unbelievable pain 
to the point I can barely move and its in more than one spot. 
 
 Has anyone else had any experience with the rods rubbing a bit or a screw?  I 
am hoping after taking it easy for awhile the pain will go down but it has been 
getting a little bit worse every day and today it's about the same.  It doesnt 
hurt as much if I am laying down on my side without moving too suddenly but it 
does hurt more to sit up and hurts a lot to adjust myself while laying down the 
first time for the day.  I've been staying in bed  a lot hoping I can get the 
pain down as pain meds arent helping very much.
 
  If anyone has any ideas on how to try to get the pain withstandable, I would 
apppreciate it.   I have 3 cages and rods from top of tspine. One cage replaces 
T 4,5,6,7 and maybe 8; another replaces T 11,12; and another replaces L 4,5, 
and maybe 6.  There is about 7 or 8 discs missing in all.  In the lumbar 
section there are a couple of sets of rods with rods next to rods.  Lots of 
metal!!!  I tried to put a pic in but it couldnt be delivered.
 
 Anyone else have this much metal?
 
 Stacy
   
  

   
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RE: [QUAD-L] Muscular dystrophy

[Kevin M. Rudolph]

I have duchenne muscular dystrophy
I know someone with mitochondrial myopathy
 
 


Kevin M. Rudolph
Louisville, Kentucky 40214
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web site:  http://www.turbokev.com  
Instant Messengers:
 AOL:  kyprincecharming   ICQ:  28414413
 MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Yahoo:  turbokev 

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Braunstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:38 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Muscular dystrophy


Any other muscular dystrophy/neuromuscular disease quads?
I'm dysautonomic mitochondrial myopathy, MELAS/MNGIE features. I'm
vent-dependent.

Hope everyone is having a good 2008 so far.
Miri




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Re: [QUAD-L] emc digi-tone

[wheelchair]

EMC has a micro processor that must have voltage constant.  Disconnect  the 
12 volt source and the system has to reboot, in your car.
I'd check with your EMC installer to verify this.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 7:08:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi,
I have an EMC digi-tone in my Ford  van.
Everytime that I disconnect the vans  12 volt battery, the digi-tone quits 
working.
Has anyone else had this  problem?
Thanks,
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RE: [QUAD-L] spinal fusion

[Danny Espinoza]

I was originally fused from my skull to T1.. The doctors at Craig then
removed some to give me head movement... But I haven't felt what your
describing.. I think any grinding is bad and should be checked.. Better safe
than sorry!

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

 

http://secureminds.us/

 

 

 

From: Stacy Harim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:52 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] spinal fusion

 


For those of you who dont know, I had to have my spine fused in several
places last May.  Well it really began hurting last week like something was
rubbing.  After the fusion was done, I had to have a screw removed b/c it
was too close to my aeorta so I worried something was shifting and went to
my doctor.  My neurosurgeon is out of town so I went to my pain doc bc he
used to be a neurosurgeon at the University of MD.  We had xrays done and he
doesnt see anything that would require me to have surgery, but I am in
unbelievable pain to the point I can barely move and its in more than one
spot. 

Has anyone else had any experience with the rods rubbing a bit or a screw?
I am hoping after taking it easy for awhile the pain will go down but it has
been getting a little bit worse every day and today it's about the same.  It
doesnt hurt as much if I am laying down on my side without moving too
suddenly but it does hurt more to sit up and hurts a lot to adjust myself
while laying down the first time for the day.  I've been staying in bed  a
lot hoping I can get the pain down as pain meds arent helping very much.

 If anyone has any ideas on how to try to get the pain withstandable, I
would apppreciate it.   I have 3 cages and rods from top of tspine. One cage
replaces T 4,5,6,7 and maybe 8; another replaces T 11,12; and another
replaces L 4,5, and maybe 6.  There is about 7 or 8 discs missing in all.
In the lumbar section there are a couple of sets of rods with rods next to
rods.  Lots of metal!!!  I tried to put a pic in but it couldnt be
delivered.

Anyone else have this much metal?

Stacy

 

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Re: [QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty

[Eric W Rudd]

i know u see this often from me but...

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Danny Hearn 
  To: Dan ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty


  Yeah-- well one day you will have the MARK -  meaning CHIP inbedded also or 
you will neither buy nor sell or eat!  

  Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
That's right W. Be afraid, be very afraid. That's just what the leaders of 
this country want because a population that is afraid is willing to give up it 
rights and freedom so the government can 'take care of them'. If you don't 
believe me, why are we all going to be required to get picture IDs in order to 
enter federal buildings and get on a plane? And passports to visit Canada! We 
are AMERICANS damn it! But now we must 'produce der papers' or will be in big 
trouble. Romney wants to double the size of Gitmo! Hum, maybe so those of us 
that don't have der papers will be considered enemy combatants and shipped off 
to Cuba. But don't worry, it's just to keep us good (complacent) people 'safe'. 
After all, we're at war - a war that will never end.   

Dan - who refuses to get der papers   


At 03:55 PM 1/11/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited 
my response:
  

  The operative word is due caution.  In some cases its for stealing info.  
And in other cases its for personal protection, especially if one is home by 
themselves a good portion of the day.
   
  Maybe its just because I've returned from a meeting with the United 
States Attorney Office, for the Northern District and learned from the Feds 
what is happening on a nationwide basis.  Just use caution in what you decide 
to post and once it is posted on the internet, its there for the world to see.
   
  I was amazed to learn that White, Educated, Males, make up the greatest 
portion of internet fraud,
  injury and theat using the computer. How do you like dem apples.. 
wink wink.
   

  Best Wishes
   
  In a message dated 1/11/2008 10:33:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes: 
It's funny how some people are afraid of doing business using the 
Internet. My brother is one of them. He's afraid to use his banks' website to 
pay his bills because someone might steal his info. Instead, he prefers to send 
a check with all of his bank info as well as his address and phone number 
through the mail! Talk about insecure!


Dan




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Re: [QUAD-L] Facebook profile

[Stacy Harim]

You are right.  There is a better chance of your banking info getting stolen 
using a store unless you intend on paying in cash everywhere.  I saw on 60 mins 
that there are computer programs that can download store information from their 
parking lot.  Many have had their identities stolen that way.

Stacy


- Original Message 
From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:13:29 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Facebook profile

Don't believe all the negative hype about Facebook or Myspace etc. Of course 
you're not going to put your bank account or SS number on any non-secure site. 
But these sites - Facebook, Myspace, etc. sites are just like this list only 
you can post pictures and YOU control it.

It's funny how some people are afraid of doing business using the Internet. My 
brother is one of them. He's afraid to use his banks' website to pay his bills 
because someone might steal his info. Instead, he prefers to send a check with 
all of his bank info as well as his address and phone number through the mail! 
Talk about insecure!

Dan


At 09:24 AM 1/11/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited my 
response:
  

The internet is a great thing to have and share, but the downside to it is the 
releasing of too much personal info that can be retrieved by others for 
unlawful purposes.  I would hasten to warn anyone against exposing too much 
information that can be combined with other supported information for others to 
use.
If you truly want others to know personal info, print in large letters on a 
sign in front of your house or home for the locals to see.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 8:13:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes: 
facebook


Check out my Facebook profile



I set up a Facebook profile with my pictures, videos and events and I want to 
add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once 
you join, you can also create your own profile.


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[QUAD-L] emc digi-tone

[Derrick]

Hi,
I have an EMC digi-tone in my Ford van.
Everytime that I disconnect the vans 12 volt battery, the digi-tone quits 
working.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Thanks,
Derrick W in PA

Re: [QUAD-L] anyone know about beds

[Dan]

When I recently got a new mattress I found out that Medicare no longer will 
purchase a fully automatic bed! They will only let you have a semi-automatic 
which doesn't raise or lower the bed electrically. My DME provider said even if 
you need a fully automatic bed in order to transfer indepently, our country 
will no longer allow it. Why? Because they can't afford it! We can afford to 
spend billions in Iraq but certainly not for us cripples. As McCain said, 
"bomb, bomb Iran and we should stay in Iraq for a hundred or even a thousand 
years!" I guess he has plenty of stock in the military industry. And as was 
said here before they no longer let you get the chair or mattress you need - 
only the cheap stuff for us. I guess we should just suck it up. Or we could all 
move into nursing homes where the government says we'll get great care! And 
they will gladly pay for it while giving us $20 a month - free money! Yay! 

Dan   


At 01:09 PM 1/11/2008 -0800, John S. said something that elicited my response:
  
>A friend of mine is a C-4 and his bed just died. They replaced it with a bed 
>he can't raise to use his phone because it cranks to move up and down. It has 
>to lower down so he can change channels on his TV. He can't use the controller 
>it does have because his fingers and wrists do not move. The controller for 
>his old bed wouldn't work because different companies made them. (many years 
>ago). Does anyone know anything about getting beds through Med/Med and the bed 
>actually being usable. His doctor prescribed a bed but the DME  says what they 
>delivered is what he is allowed to have. 
>At the moment he is sleeping in a lift chair with a bed bag attached to his 
>leg bag.
>Is there any chance he is eligible for a voice activated thing that could 
>operate it? (His old one was sip and puff and hung around his neck.)
>
>john
>
>
>Never miss a thing. 
>Make Yahoo your 
>homepage. 

Re: [QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty

[Eric W Rudd]

Damn Dan...ur gonna make me defend W?  The photo IDs r a must...for 1, the 
illegal immigrant vote.  I've an ID...wats the biggie?  If u get pulled over, 
damn it the cops need 2 know who u ri'm not a romney supporter, but hey, if 
u r not suppose to b here, go to cuba, iran, mexico, francei don't care GET 
THE HELL OUTA MY COUNTRY so my lame ass country'll quit supporting ur ass.

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:09 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty


  That's right W. Be afraid, be very afraid. That's just what the leaders of 
this country want because a population that is afraid is willing to give up it 
rights and freedom so the government can 'take care of them'. If you don't 
believe me, why are we all going to be required to get picture IDs in order to 
enter federal buildings and get on a plane? And passports to visit Canada! We 
are AMERICANS damn it! But now we must 'produce der papers' or will be in big 
trouble. Romney wants to double the size of Gitmo! Hum, maybe so those of us 
that don't have der papers will be considered enemy combatants and shipped off 
to Cuba. But don't worry, it's just to keep us good (complacent) people 'safe'. 
After all, we're at war - a war that will never end.   

  Dan - who refuses to get der papers   


  At 03:55 PM 1/11/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited 
my response:


The operative word is due caution.  In some cases its for stealing info.  
And in other cases its for personal protection, especially if one is home by 
themselves a good portion of the day.
 
Maybe its just because I've returned from a meeting with the United States 
Attorney Office, for the Northern District and learned from the Feds what is 
happening on a nationwide basis.  Just use caution in what you decide to post 
and once it is posted on the internet, its there for the world to see.
 
I was amazed to learn that White, Educated, Males, make up the greatest 
portion of internet fraud,
injury and theat using the computer. How do you like dem apples.. wink 
wink.
 

Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 10:33:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes: 
  It's funny how some people are afraid of doing business using the 
Internet. My brother is one of them. He's afraid to use his banks' website to 
pay his bills because someone might steal his info. Instead, he prefers to send 
a check with all of his bank info as well as his address and phone number 
through the mail! Talk about insecure!


  Dan





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[QUAD-L] spinal fusion

[Stacy Harim]

For those of you who dont know, I had to have my spine fused in several places 
last May.  Well it really began hurting last week like something was rubbing.  
After the fusion was done, I had to have a screw removed b/c it was too close 
to my aeorta so I worried something was shifting and went to my doctor.  My 
neurosurgeon is out of town so I went to my pain doc bc he used to be a 
neurosurgeon at the University of MD.  We had xrays done and he doesnt see 
anything that would require me to have surgery, but I am in unbelievable pain 
to the point I can barely move and its in more than one spot. 

Has anyone else had any experience with the rods rubbing a bit or a screw?  I 
am hoping after taking it easy for awhile the pain will go down but it has been 
getting a little bit worse every day and today it's about the same.  It doesnt 
hurt as much if I am laying down on my side without moving too suddenly but it 
does hurt more to sit up and hurts a lot to adjust myself while laying down the 
first time for the day.  I've been staying in bed  a lot hoping I can get the 
pain down as pain meds arent helping very much.

 If anyone has any ideas on how to try to get the pain withstandable, I would 
apppreciate it.   I have 3 cages and rods from top of tspine. One cage replaces 
T 4,5,6,7 and maybe 8; another replaces T 11,12; and another replaces L 4,5, 
and maybe 6.  There is about 7 or 8 discs missing in all.  In the lumbar 
section there are a couple of sets of rods with rods next to rods.  Lots of 
metal!!!  I tried to put a pic in but it couldnt be delivered.

Anyone else have this much metal?

Stacy


  

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[QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty

[wheelchair]

lol.  I forgot the question.  What was it?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 6:13:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yeah--  well one day you will have the MARK -  meaning CHIP inbedded also or 
you  will neither buy nor sell or eat!   

Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
That's  right W. Be afraid, be very afraid. That's just what the leaders of 
this  country want because a population that is afraid is willing to give up it 
 rights and freedom so the government can 'take care of them'. If you don't  
believe me, why are we all going to be required to get picture IDs in order  
to enter federal buildings and get on a plane? And passports to visit  Canada! 
We are AMERICANS damn it! But now we must 'produce der papers' or  will be in 
big trouble. Romney wants to double the size of Gitmo! Hum, maybe  so those of 
us that don't have der papers will be considered enemy  combatants and 
shipped off to Cuba. But don't worry, it's just to keep us  good (complacent) 
people 
'safe'. After all, we're at war - a war that will  never end.   

Dan - who refuses to get der  papers






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Re: [QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty

[Danny Hearn]

Yeah-- well one day you will have the MARK -  meaning CHIP inbedded also or you 
will neither buy nor sell or eat!  

Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  That's right W. Be afraid, be very afraid. 
That's just what the leaders of this country want because a population that is 
afraid is willing to give up it rights and freedom so the government can 'take 
care of them'. If you don't believe me, why are we all going to be required to 
get picture IDs in order to enter federal buildings and get on a plane? And 
passports to visit Canada! We are AMERICANS damn it! But now we must 'produce 
der papers' or will be in big trouble. Romney wants to double the size of 
Gitmo! Hum, maybe so those of us that don't have der papers will be considered 
enemy combatants and shipped off to Cuba. But don't worry, it's just to keep us 
good (complacent) people 'safe'. After all, we're at war - a war that will 
never end.   

Dan - who refuses to get der papers   


At 03:55 PM 1/11/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited my 
response:
  
  The operative word is due caution.  In some cases its for stealing info.  And 
in other cases its for personal protection, especially if one is home by 
themselves a good portion of the day.
 
Maybe its just because I've returned from a meeting with the United States 
Attorney Office, for the Northern District and learned from the Feds what is 
happening on a nationwide basis.  Just use caution in what you decide to post 
and once it is posted on the internet, its there for the world to see.
 
I was amazed to learn that White, Educated, Males, make up the greatest portion 
of internet fraud,
injury and theat using the computer. How do you like dem apples.. wink wink.
 

Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 10:33:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes: 
   It's funny how some people are afraid of doing business using the Internet. 
My brother is one of them. He's afraid to use his banks' website to pay his 
bills because someone might steal his info. Instead, he prefers to send a check 
with all of his bank info as well as his address and phone number through the 
mail! Talk about insecure!

  
   Dan


  
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[QUAD-L] Loosing Liberty

[Dan]

That's right W. Be afraid, be very afraid. That's just what the leaders of this 
country want because a population that is afraid is willing to give up it 
rights and freedom so the government can 'take care of them'. If you don't 
believe me, why are we all going to be required to get picture IDs in order to 
enter federal buildings and get on a plane? And passports to visit Canada! We 
are AMERICANS damn it! But now we must 'produce der papers' or will be in big 
trouble. Romney wants to double the size of Gitmo! Hum, maybe so those of us 
that don't have der papers will be considered enemy combatants and shipped off 
to Cuba. But don't worry, it's just to keep us good (complacent) people 'safe'. 
After all, we're at war - a war that will never end.   

Dan - who refuses to get der papers   


At 03:55 PM 1/11/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited my 
response:
  
>The operative word is due caution.  In some cases its for stealing info.  And 
>in other cases its for personal protection, especially if one is home by 
>themselves a good portion of the day.
> 
>Maybe its just because I've returned from a meeting with the United States 
>Attorney Office, for the Northern District and learned from the Feds what is 
>happening on a nationwide basis.  Just use caution in what you decide to post 
>and once it is posted on the internet, its there for the world to see.
> 
>I was amazed to learn that White, Educated, Males, make up the greatest 
>portion of internet fraud,
>injury and theat using the computer. How do you like dem apples.. wink 
>wink.
> 
>
>Best Wishes
> 
>In a message dated 1/11/2008 10:33:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
>PROTECTED] writes:  
>It's funny how some people are afraid of doing business using the Internet. My 
>brother is one of them. He's afraid to use his banks' website to pay his bills 
>because someone might steal his info. Instead, he prefers to send a check with 
>all of his bank info as well as his address and phone number through the mail! 
>Talk about insecure!
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>
>--
>Start the year off right. 
>Easy 
>ways to stay in shape in the new year. 

[QUAD-L] hey & Cali quads?, SP

[Dylan]

Hi quads, its been awhile since I wrote in. This is Dylan(Nirmal), been on here 
awhile. As always, very useful communicating here.  I did manage to get off the 
ms, since early July for those who remembered my post about it.. Not an easy 
thing to do.
There must be some of you in California. I would appreciate it if you who live 
there would contact me at my email. I have family & friends there and am 
considering relocating there. It would be great to get some feedback from 
quad/s there.
On the topic of SP, I got one about 3 yrs ago and its been pretty much 
hassle-free(21 yrs post, c5/6.




  

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Re: [QUAD-L] Facebook profile

[wheelchair]

The operative word is due caution.  In some cases its for stealing  info.  
And in other cases its for personal protection, especially if one is  home by 
themselves a good portion of the day.
 
Maybe its just because I've returned from a meeting with the United States  
Attorney Office, for the Northern District and learned from the Feds what is  
happening on a nationwide basis.  Just use caution in what you decide to  post 
and once it is posted on the internet, its there for the world to  see.
 
I was amazed to learn that White, Educated, Males, make up the greatest  
portion of internet fraud,
injury and theat using the computer. How do you like dem apples.. wink  
wink.
 

Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 10:33:19 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It's  funny how some people are afraid of doing business using the Internet. 
My  brother is one of them. He's afraid to use his banks' website to pay his 
bills  because someone might steal his info. Instead, he prefers to send a 
check with  all of his bank info as well as his address and phone number 
through 
the mail!  Talk about insecure!

Dan 





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[QUAD-L] anyone know about beds

[John S.]

A friend of mine is a C-4 and his bed just died. They replaced it with a bed he 
can't raise to use his phone because it cranks to move up and down. It has to 
lower down so he can change channels on his TV. He can't use the controller it 
does have because his fingers and wrists do not move. The controller for his 
old bed wouldn't work because different companies made them. (many years ago). 
Does anyone know anything about getting beds through Med/Med and the bed 
actually being usable. His doctor prescribed a bed but the DME  says what they 
delivered is what he is allowed to have. 
At the moment he is sleeping in a lift chair with a bed bag attached to his leg 
bag.
Is there any chance he is eligible for a voice activated thing that could 
operate it? (His old one was sip and puff and hung around his neck.)

john



  

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Re: [QUAD-L] supra-pubic catheter

[KK]

SP has nothing to do with the stomach.  It goes thru the skin directly to the
bladder.

I have had mine for 3 years now. Much fewer infections now than before.

Mine is changed every 3 weeks.  When I felt it in for 4 weeks I got more 
infections.


KK

"People are so worried about what they eat between Christmas and the New Year, 
but they really should be worried about what they eat between the New Year and 
Christmas." – Anonymous

Re: [QUAD-L] Facebook profile

[KK]

Who says the info given has to be correct?  Mine at Yahoo is false


KK

"People are so worried about what they eat between Christmas and the New Year, 
but they really should be worried about what they eat between the New Year and 
Christmas." – Anonymous

Re: [QUAD-L] supra-pubic catheter

[John S.]

Women can have a few internal problems that might make a Supre-public cath a 
problem. Dropped bladder, dropped uterus, Sounds like some women just come 
apart inside. If you see some women that have had lots ofchildren and their 
kidneys are just below their C-7 vertebra...well, you get the picture. Bladder 
augmentation would be slowly stretching your bladder so it would hold more 
urine. This can help reduce the risk of autonomic disreflexia in some paralyzed 
people. It is important that you be a great judge of how much your bladder is 
holding as residual. 
A Urologist can be a fountain of knowledge...metaphorically speaking.

All my prayers and best wishes,
john




- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:29:50 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] supra-pubic catheter




 

Wheelchair,

 

What will make someone unable to accept SP?  What is the 
difference between bladder augmentation and SP?  I have an appointment with 
my urologists in February.  I guess he will explain all this to me.  
I'd just like to get input from those who have experience with SP, which will 
help with my decision.

 


Naomi
C4 
quadriplegic since July 2005
due to Transverse 
Myelitis





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RE: [QUAD-L] supra-pubic catheter

[Les]

Hi Naomi,

 

I had a supra-pubic catheter for over 18 years. I would highly recommend
getting a supra-pubic catheter. 

 

Lester C4-5 Quad 19 years post

Gambrills MD

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:49 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] supra-pubic catheter

 

I went to my doctor yesterday and she suggested that I have a super pubic
catheter put in, because I am constantly plagued UTIs.  I don't know if this
is a good idea or not.  I don't have access to a shower, so I just get bed a
bath every day.  I have read several things on this list regarding
supra-pubic catheters, and I don't think many of them were positive.

 

Can some of you shed some light on the subject for me.  What are the
advantages and disadvantages?  Keep in mind that I do not have hand
function.  Thanks in advance. 

 

Naomi
C4 quadriplegic since July 2005
due to Transverse Myelitis





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Re: [QUAD-L] Facebook profile

[Dan]

Don't believe all the negative hype about Facebook or Myspace etc. Of course 
you're not going to put your bank account or SS number on any non-secure site. 
But these sites - Facebook, Myspace, etc. sites are just like this list only 
you can post pictures and YOU control it.

It's funny how some people are afraid of doing business using the Internet. My 
brother is one of them. He's afraid to use his banks' website to pay his bills 
because someone might steal his info. Instead, he prefers to send a check with 
all of his bank info as well as his address and phone number through the mail! 
Talk about insecure!

Dan


At 09:24 AM 1/11/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited my 
response:
  
>The internet is a great thing to have and share, but the downside to it is the 
>releasing of too much personal info that can be retrieved by others for 
>unlawful purposes.  I would hasten to warn anyone against exposing too much 
>information that can be combined with other supported information for others 
>to use.
>If you truly want others to know personal info, print in large letters on a 
>sign in front of your house or home for the locals to see.
>Best Wishes
> 
>In a message dated 1/11/2008 8:13:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
>PROTECTED] writes:  
>facebook
>
>
>Check out my Facebook profile
>
>
>
>I set up a Facebook profile with my pictures, videos and events and I want to 
>add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once 
>you join, you can also create your own profile.
>
>Thanks, 
>Robert
>
>Here's the link: 
>http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=712306930&k=ZXA4YWU2PWVMYELASGVZX&r&v=2
> 
>This e-mail may contain promotional materials. If you do not wish to receive 
>future commercial mailings from Facebook, please 
>opt out. Facebook's 
>offices are located at 156 University Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94301. 
>
>
>
>
>--
>Start the year off right. 
>Easy 
>ways to stay in shape in the new year. 

[QUAD-L] Check out my Facebook profile

[Robert Brennan]

I set up a Facebook profile with my pictures, videos and events and I want to 
add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once 
you join, you can also create your own profile.

Thanks,
Robert

Here's the link:
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[QUAD-L] Facebook profile

[wheelchair]

The internet is a great thing to have and share, but the downside to it is  
the releasing of too much personal info that can be retrieved by others for  
unlawful purposes.  I would hasten to warn anyone against exposing too much  
information that can be combined with other supported information for others to 
 
use.
If you truly want others to know personal info, print in large letters on a  
sign in front of your house or home for the locals to see.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 8:13:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

facebook 
Check out my Facebook profile
I set up a  Facebook profile with my pictures, videos and events and I want 
to add  you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook!  
Once you join, you can also create your own  profile.

Thanks,
Robert

Here's the link:
_http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=712306930&k=ZXA4YWU2PWVMYELASGVZX&r&v=2_ 
(http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=712306930&k=ZXA4YWU2PWVMYELASGVZX&r&v=2) 
This  e-mail may contain promotional materials. If you do not wish to receive  
future commercial mailings from Facebook, please _opt  out_ 
(http://www.facebook.com/o.php?u=678125969&k=503074) . Facebook's offices are 
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