Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

2008-12-11 Thread Danny Hearn
Wow, Merrill---that is opposite of what my chair providers told me--- i 
wanted gto go to a none high profile several years ago and they said OK, but if 
you do...you will be far more at risk for pressure sores!   i wonder if they 
told me correct?? because i have now used high profile roho's for over 11 
years.   Dan H.

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:09 PM








Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a 
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect nor 
are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 




From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now. I 
get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I was 
having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week and have 
done so since june 2007



Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com


I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a sore 
that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after they 
got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed last 
year.  

 

When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has seen 
people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air in 
it and pressure relief is being done.

 

Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even more, 
I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves me 
unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.

 

Stacy

 




From: RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore





hey dan,

ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , like 
when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to put 
on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .

 

 

 

ron c7

 

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

From: Danny Hearn  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM






HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side of 
my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored bruisecan 
you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real worried because 
last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 months 
later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type shoe to 
keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe incidentthis is 
my 1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do pressure release and 
stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the early 
stages.  thanks for any help !  

  
Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post

 



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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

2008-12-11 Thread Dan
What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? 
And why do you suppose that would matter?


Dan whose intrigued.


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:

Years ago I had sores more often than not using 
the High Profile Roho regardless of weight 
shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began 
using a smaller cushion cover.  Since that day 
inflation does not need be perfect nor are 
pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.


Merrill


--
From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.


i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on 
a roho for over a year now. I get one healed and 
anothr develops. Its very depressing and 
frustrating. I was having pretty good luck until 
my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound 
clinic once a week and have done so since june 2007


--
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is 
properly inflated.  I had a sore that I got in 
rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my 
roho after they got me on an air mattress at 
night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place 
as the sore I got fixed last year.


When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new 
chair, he said that he has seen people heal on a 
roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper 
amount of air in it and pressure relief is being done.


Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this 
surgery fusing my back even more, I am not 
longer able to get any sort of shoulder 
deppresion that leaves me unable to get my butt 
off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't 
gotten any new breakdown since the episode over 
the summer but am curious how you all do your pressure relief.


Stacy


From: RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away 
without doing anything , like when a transfer 
goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far 
as what to put on it someone else here on the 
list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .




ron c7

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM
HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore 
issue my roho got a bit low but i could not 
tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my 
left side of my bottom. My wife said it looks 
sort of like a purple colored bruisecan you 
guys tell me the best things to put on one 
early---when it has not even opened up??? is 
lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real 
worried because last april, i got a blister on 
my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a 
pressure sore and now 7 months later it is still 
slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal 
type shoe to keep all pressure off that area. So 
besides the last shoe incidentthis is my 1st 
time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to 
do pressure release and stay off as much as 
possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the 
early stages.  thanks for any help !


Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post



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RE: [QUAD-L] Getting rejected from the quad-list

2008-12-11 Thread Greg
Eskimo North, the Internet site this List is on has been bouncing some
e-mails from Cox.Net. Someone was trying to e-mail me directly and kept
getting a bounced message saying a spam blocker was blocking the message. I
had to e-mail Eskimo and they put the person's address on a accepted list.

Greg

 

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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

2008-12-11 Thread Dave0c
cushion cover size makes a BIG  difference.  a smaller (tighter)  cover 
allows you to have less air in the cushion.  proper inflation for a  roho is to 
blow it up and let it sit open valve to room pressure.  then  cork it up and 
put 
into a cover that allows you to sink in but not bottom  out.  I've never had a 
pressure sore from sitting on a roho.
AZDAVE
 
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In a message dated 12/11/2008 8:10:47 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What do  you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? And why do you suppose that 
would  matter?

Dan whose intrigued. 


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008,  Merrill said something that elicited my response:


Years  ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless  of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a  
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be  perfect nor 
are 
pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am  up.

Merrill

 





From: William  Willis [_  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008  6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L]  sore advice and pressure relief.


i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for  over a year now. 
I get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing  and frustrating. I 
was having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now  i can't relieve 
pressure and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound  clinic once a week 
and have done so since june 2007
 


Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure  relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];  quad-list@eskimo.com
I think  you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a 
sore  that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after 
they  got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got  
infected 
and lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I  got fixed 
last year.  

When I met with the wheelchair  dealer for a new chair, he said that he has 
seen people heal on a roho  cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of 
air in it and pressure  relief is being done.

Speaking of pressure relief, since I got  this surgery fusing my back even 
more, I am not longer able to get any sort  of shoulder deppresion that leaves 
me unable to get my butt off of the  surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten 
any new breakdown since  the episode over the summer but am curious how you all 
do your pressure  relief.

Stacy




From:  RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday,  December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on  pressure sore
hey dan,
ive  got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , 
like  when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to 
 
put on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think  
it is gotten to a severe stage yet though  .



ron c7

--- On Sat,  12/6/08, Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore

To: quad-list@eskimo.com

Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM

HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue  my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure  sore on my left side 
of my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a  purple colored 
bruisecan you guys tell me the best things to put on  one early---when it 
has not 
even opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm  good for it ?? i'm real worried 
because last april, i got a blister on my  heel from my wife buying a pair of 
tennis shoes one size too small---that  turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 
months later it is still  slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type 
shoe to keep all  pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe 
incidentthis is my  1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do 
pressure 
release  and stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in 
the  early stages.  thanks for any help  !   

Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post



 


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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

2008-12-11 Thread Dan

Thank you Dave. Very astute and informative.

Dan who's now informed


At 11:16 AM 12/11/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said 
something that elicited my response:


cushion cover size makes a BIG  difference.  a 
smaller (tighter) cover allows you to have less 
air in the cushion.  proper inflation for a roho 
is to blow it up and let it sit open valve to 
room pressure.  then cork it up and put into a 
cover that allows you to sink in but not bottom 
out.  I've never had a pressure sore from sitting on a roho.

AZDAVE

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And explode into space
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In a message dated 12/11/2008 8:10:47 A.M. US 
Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? 
And why do you suppose that would matter?


Dan whose intrigued.


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:

Years ago I had sores more often than not using 
the High Profile Roho regardless of weight 
shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began 
using a smaller cushion cover.  Since that day 
inflation does not need be perfect nor are 
pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.


Merrill


--
From: William Willis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.


i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting 
on a roho for over a year now. I get one healed 
and anothr develops. Its very depressing and 
frustrating. I was having pretty good luck 
until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve 
pressure and things aren't going as well. I 
visit a wound clinic once a week and have done so since june 2007


--
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is 
properly inflated.  I had a sore that I got in 
rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my 
roho after they got me on an air mattress at 
night.  Its the other sore that got infected 
and lead to another surgery in almost the same 
place as the sore I got fixed last year.


When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new 
chair, he said that he has seen people heal on 
a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper 
amount of air in it and pressure relief is being done.


Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this 
surgery fusing my back even more, I am not 
longer able to get any sort of shoulder 
deppresion that leaves me unable to get my butt 
off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't 
gotten any new breakdown since the episode over 
the summer but am curious how you all do your pressure relief.


Stacy


From: RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away 
without doing anything , like when a transfer 
goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far 
as what to put on it someone else here on the 
list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .




ron c7

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM
HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure 
sore issue my roho got a bit low but i 
could not tell and now i got a small pressure 
sore on my left side of my bottom. My wife said 
it looks sort of like a purple colored 
bruisecan you guys tell me the best things 
to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good 
for it ?? i'm real worried because last april, 
i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying 
a pair of tennis shoes one size too 
small---that turned  into a pressure sore and 
now 7 months later it is still slightly 
discolored and i still only wear sandal type 
shoe to keep all pressure off that area. So 
besides the last shoe incidentthis is my 
1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i 
know to do pressure release and stay off as 
much as possible-- but not sure what to put on 
it in the early stages.  thanks for any help !


Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post



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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

2008-12-11 Thread John S.
These rohos do wear out. They get to the point you have to add air every day or 
two. The covers get stretched. I try to get mine replaced every few years. 

john

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com, Merrill merril...@cox.net
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 8:51 AM

Wow, Merrill---that is opposite of what my chair providers told me--- i 
wanted gto go to a none high profile several years ago and they said OK, but if 
you do...you will be far more at risk for pressure sores!   i wonder if they 
told me correct?? because i have now used high profile roho's for over 11 
years.   Dan H.

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Merrill merril...@cox.net wrote:

From: Merrill merril...@cox.net
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:09 PM








Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a 
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect nor 
are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 




From: William Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now. I 
get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I was 
having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week and have 
done so since june 2007



Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: imwheelin1...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; ddh...@sbcglobal.net ; quad-list@eskimo.com


I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a sore 
that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after they 
got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed last 
year.  

 

When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has seen 
people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air in 
it and pressure relief is being done.

 

Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even more, 
I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves me 
unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.

 

Stacy

 




From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net
To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net ; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore





hey dan,

ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , like 
when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to put 
on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .

 

 

 

ron c7

 

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn  ddh...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:

From: Danny Hearn  ddh...@sbcglobal.net 
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM






HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side of 
my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored bruisecan 
you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real worried because 
last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 months 
later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type shoe to 
keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe incidentthis is 
my 1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do pressure release and 
stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the early
 stages.  thanks for any help !  

  
Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post

 



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Re: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility

2008-12-11 Thread wheelchair
To answer your question, Yes they can.  Do you have the same right to  sue 
them for violation of the ADA?  The answer to that question is Yes as  well.
 
Knowledge is a very powerful tool.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2008 10:18:18 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes:

Can an apartment complex with old buildings charge me to widen a door or  put 
a curb cut in so that I would have access to a ground level  apartment?  They 
only have one handicapped 3br unit that is  occupied. 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility

2008-12-11 Thread Danny Hearn
if it is an older complex and they do have one accessable unitwho say's 
they need more?? i'm not arguing...just wondering, even on new units--how many 
do they need to have?   this is a good subject---same for parking spaces 
and so on.
   dan h.

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From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility
To: todd.daughe...@gmail.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 2:05 PM



To answer your question, Yes they can.  Do you have the same right to sue them 
for violation of the ADA?  The answer to that question is Yes as well.
 
Knowledge is a very powerful tool.
Best Wishes
 

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todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes:

Can an apartment complex with old buildings charge me to widen a door or put a 
curb cut in so that I would have access to a ground level apartment?  They only 
have one handicapped 3br unit that is occupied. 





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Re: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility

2008-12-11 Thread wheelchair
This is one of the reason I ask those to work with a local, Federal Funded,  
Center for Independent Living (CIL) in the community.  They know the  National 
and Local codes on that issue and can advise the building management,  if 
there is truly a question.  There is the Law and the Spirit of the Law.  
Accessible vs Handicap could easily be misconstrue.  
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2008 2:29:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

if it is an older complex and they do have one accessible  unitwho say's 
they need more?? i'm not arguing...just wondering,  even on new units--how 
many do they need to  have?   this is a good subject---same  for parking 
spaces and so on.
dan h.

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From:  wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Apartments - accessibility
To: todd.daughe...@gmail.com,  quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 2:05  PM


To answer your question, Yes they can.  Do you have the same  right to sue 
them for violation of the ADA?  The answer to that  question is Yes as well.
 
Knowledge is a very powerful tool.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2008 10:18:18 A.M. Central Standard  Time, 
todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes:

Can an apartment complex with old buildings charge me to widen  a door or put 
a curb cut in so that I would have access to a ground  level apartment?  They 
only have one handicapped 3br  unit that is  occupied. 





 

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[QUAD-L] Fwd: Council E- News; December 11, 2008

2008-12-11 Thread wheelchair


 
  

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To: cdahlb...@gpcpd.org
Sent: 12/11/2008 12:23:12  P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Council E- News; December 11,  2008




COUNCIL E-NEWS- December 11,  2008
Council E-News is designed to provide resources and information  about 
disability issues that will educate and empower advocates to form  their own 
views 
on issues and advocate according to their personal needs and  those of their 
communities. If you have comments or information to submit,  contact Christine 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility

2008-12-11 Thread Dan
The ADA does not cover strictly residential private apartments and 
homes.  The key word here is 'strictly'. If an apartment complex 
receives some public funding then they are required to make a certain 
portion accessible. Otherwise, your scenario is apropos.


Dan

At 11:17 AM 12/11/2008, Todd Daugherty said something that elicited 
my response:


Can an apartment complex with old buildings charge me to widen a 
door or put a curb cut in so that I would have access to a ground 
level apartment?  They only have one handicapped 3br unit that is occupied.


RE: [QUAD-L] Getting rejected from the quad-list

2008-12-11 Thread Tod E. Santee
Well, damn...

Now that I *CAN* post again I don't have anything to say!

except, Thanks Wheelchair  Jim for relaying my message(s) and getting 
things resolved so quickly!!!

Best to All
--Tod

  
 
   _  
 
  
 
 Am I missing something here? Like a brain? If only AOL subscribers are
 affected, then why is cox.net being rejected?
 
 
 



FW: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

2008-12-11 Thread Merrill
Sorry I could not say.  Right that it does support cushion fingers. Simply
show pt what you have and request the next size down.  If you need to
purchase this independently, you know how hard headed some pt people are,
measure yours and request it from the vender.

MB

C5

 

There is no fine line to my inflation any longer.  My cushion is forgiving
after so many years of success.  I put an inch give from where cushion
bottoms out.  Sit on a hand to guestamate inflation.  Remember that this
works for me with boney butt and no pressure relief but may not be correct
for everyone.

 

  _  

From: t crook [mailto:onemofor...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:25 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com; Dan
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

 


Ditto on the being intrigued. 

I have a fine line between an over-inflated and under-inflated Roho (hi
profile/quadro select); due to my skinny bum. The only thing I can think of
on how a smaller cover would help, is, it would help hold the cells together
from separating, which mine does and allows my bum to get closer to the
bottom of the cushion.

So what size is your cushion Merrill, and the smaller cover?
Tim c5-c6 20 yrs. post

www.geocities.com/onemofortom

WhoopieKat.com http://www.whoopiekat.com/ 

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Dan d...@unh.edu wrote:

From: Dan d...@unh.edu
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:09 AM

What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? And why do you suppose that
would matter?

Dan whose intrigued. 


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:
 



Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect
nor are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 


  _  


From: William Willis [ mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com
mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now.
I get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I
was having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve
pressure and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week
and have done so since june 2007


  _  


Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: imwheelin1...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a
sore that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after
they got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got
infected and lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I
got fixed last year.  
 
When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has
seen people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of
air in it and pressure relief is being done.
 
Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even
more, I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that
leaves me unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't
gotten any new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious
how you all do your pressure relief.
 
Stacy
 

 

From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net
To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything ,
like when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what
to put on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont
think it is gotten to a severe stage yet though .
 
 
 
ron c7
 
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net

Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore

To: quad-list@eskimo.com

Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM

HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side
of my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored
bruisecan you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it
has not even opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real
worried because last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a
pair of tennis shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore
and now 7 months later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear
sandal type shoe to keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last

Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility - Todd

2008-12-11 Thread wheelchair
As I suggested earlier.  Contact your locally, Federally Funded Center  for 
Independent Living.  They are the best resource at your disposal.   You might 
be surprised
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2008 7:51:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:

 
This is architect sons answer.  He builds banks  knows all  those laws.


KK

- Forwarded Message 
From: Eric Batte  ericba...@gmail.com
To: KK  kkba...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:57:41  PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Apartments - accessibility

Typically no accessibilty updates are required until/unless remodeling of  a 
certain scope takes place. In my experience I don't see how the apt owner  
would be obligated to pay for the alterations if this is the only work being  
done.

Eric


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:17 AM, KK _kkba...@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:kkba...@yahoo.com)   wrote:





 
Opinion needed

- Forwarded Message 
From: Todd Daugherty _todd.daughe...@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:todd.daughe...@gmail.com) 
To: Quad _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008  10:17:53 AM
Subject:  [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility


 
 
Can an apartment complex with old buildings charge me to widen a door  or put 
a curb cut in so that I would have access to a ground level  apartment?  They 
only have one handicapped 3br unit that is  occupied. 














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Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility - Todd

2008-12-11 Thread KK
You haven't been to one of his.  A real stickler on the rules for ADA.




From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
To: kkba...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:54:14 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility - Todd

He builds banks, eh?  I don't remember the last bank I was in that was 
truly accessible.  
Go to your CIL.
 
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 12/11/2008 7:51:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
This is architect sons answer.  He builds banks  knows all  those laws.

KK


- Forwarded Message 
From: Eric Batte  ericba...@gmail.com
To: KK  kkba...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:57:41  PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Apartments - accessibility


Typically no accessibilty updates are required until/unless remodeling of  a 
certain scope takes place. In my experience I don't see how the apt owner  
would be obligated to pay for the alterations if this is the only work being  
done.


Eric
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:17 AM, KK kkba...@yahoo.com  wrote:


Opinion needed


- Forwarded Message 
From: Todd Daugherty todd.daughe...@gmail.com
To: Quad quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008  10:17:53 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility


Can an apartment complex with old buildings charge me to widen a door  or put a 
curb cut in so that I would have access to a ground level  apartment?  They 
only have one handicapped 3br unit that is  occupied. 





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Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility - Todd

2008-12-11 Thread wheelchair
Last time, are you going to contact your local CIL or tell us what they guy  
has for a son.
If your local CIL, agrees, you have no argument and go on.  If your  local 
CIL says you have
a case. then go for it.  
 
Good Luck and Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2008 7:56:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:

 
You haven't been to one of his.  A real stickler on the rules for  ADA.

 

 From: wheelch...@aol.com  wheelch...@aol.com
To: kkba...@yahoo.com;  quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent:  Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:54:14 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] Apartments -  accessibility - Todd

He builds banks, eh?  I don't remember the last bank I was in that  was truly 
accessible.  
Go to your CIL.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2008 7:51:01 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:

 
This is architect sons answer.  He builds banks  knows all  those laws.


KK

- Forwarded Message 
From: Eric Batte  ericba...@gmail.com
To: KK  kkba...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008  5:57:41 PM
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility

Typically no accessibilty updates are required until/unless remodeling  of a 
certain scope takes place. In my experience I don't see how the apt  owner 
would be obligated to pay for the alterations if this is the only work  being 
done.

Eric


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:17 AM, KK _kkba...@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:kkba...@yahoo.com)   wrote:





 
Opinion needed

- Forwarded Message 
From: Todd Daugherty _todd.daughe...@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:todd.daughe...@gmail.com) 
To: Quad _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008  10:17:53 AM
Subject:  [QUAD-L] Apartments - accessibility


 
 
Can an apartment complex with old buildings charge me to widen a  door or put 
a curb cut in so that I would have access to a ground level  apartment?  They 
only have one handicapped 3br unit that is  occupied. 

















 

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Re: [QUAD-L] Hallow!

2008-12-11 Thread Quadius
What a coincidence that you wrote this on the very day I had to go to the
hospital for a week.  I guess I had a real bad reaction to the Thanksgiving
leftovers.  2 1/2 hours of diarrhea led to dehydration and extraordinarily
low blood pressure.

So, for the first time in 5 1/2 years I had to take an ambulance ride to the
ER.
In that up in ICU for five days and was transferred down to spinal cord for
a couple more.  My doctor finally released me on Monday telling me that I
should have been released the previous Wednesday.  The ICU doctors kept
telling me I had in a UTI, but I kept insisting that I had no symptoms.  It
seems they were only treating the bacteria and using the fact my white blood
cells were elevated from the dehydration.

Thankfully I'm feeling great now and I hope to continue to do so.
It's amazing after all that time I thought it would have 100 e-mails to go
through.
Quadius

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:04 PM, John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Did everyone get sick or what. Suspiciously quiet here. I already
 resubscribed, so I'd have something to do. Not looking real good for Xmas
 shoppers. I went past some Walmarts and all the little hispanic elves were
 bored to death. Hope your all having a good one.

 john




-- 
Quadius
C2-3 incomplete
13 years post injury


[QUAD-L] is anyone on list living in arizona?

2008-12-11 Thread donald scott
hi fellow quads,
 
i'm thinking about moving to az., maybe bullhead or pheonix. i need to know how 
your state works as far as health benefits, caregiving, and housing. if anyone 
is in az. i'd love to chat.
 
thanks, donald c-5/18 post


  

Re: [QUAD-L] is anyone on list living in arizona?

2008-12-11 Thread wheelchair
Expect a reply from our veteran Lori.  She knows and will tell you  like it 
is.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2008 11:06:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
rollingl...@yahoo.com writes:

hi fellow quads,
 
i'm thinking about moving to az., maybe bullhead or pheonix. i need  to know 
how your state works as far as health benefits, caregiving, and  housing. if 
anyone is in az. i'd love to chat.
 
thanks, donald c-5/18  post



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