Re: [QUAD-L] SCS Spinal Cord Stimulation

2009-01-25 Thread Fragile
my pain management Dr. has suggested trying a scs in the future if I can't
treat central pain with meds.  There's a nice forum with info at:

http://www.raceagainstpain.com

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:

  Anyone here ever try using a SCS Spinal Cord Stimulator?

 They implant small electrodes into the spinal cord. I was talking to a pain
 doc I met by chance and he asked if I've tried one.

 He said they worked well for phantom pains sand other long term causes of
 pain.

 Greg



Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread Lori Michaelson
Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas tanks.  :-)  Be
it a car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple them up for a bit.

Lori

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.netwrote:


 Hey guys,

 I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to
 me thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked
 in the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I
 pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6
 inches from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the
 prob. Ten minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all
 the time and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care
 if they block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he
 moved it back into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and
 bring him outside. I later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket
 and was laughing about the situation saying he does this all the time and
 will do it again. Soin short the problem we have is the cops dont
 enforce the lined off sections so dirtbags will continue to park there. The
 next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to
 kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.

 Ron c7


 Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor
 vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on
 them) out like candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!

 The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually
 enforced or not.  Unfortunately usually not.

 Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are
 also giving driver's *licenses* out to people who can barely think yet not
 recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and
 therefore cause many accidents.  The winters here are great except the
 population doubles between October and May or somewhere around there!
 Therefore the traffic doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who
 seem not to even know where they are let alone get back to their car and be
 on the road!  Scary!

 I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state
 and my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to
 be a law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I
 can't remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree!  At a
 certain age, reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people
 should not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to
 themselves.

 Lori
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:

 This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the
 disabled spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to
 take it disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for those
 individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp
 access.

 There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so
 that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving
 around looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in
 them.
 Quadius

 On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to
 get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.
 Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and
 policemen will not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked
 them to, as they helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).

 One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant
 about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a
 policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other
 handicap spots available.  Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology,
 don't get me started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him
 the right to park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).
 Another guy with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being
 +300lbs) actually said, you handicapped people think you're so special.  I
 could go on.  I was never anything but respectful in all encounters, but
 what I usually got in return was far, far from it.  I guess that reflects
 the type of people that would park in a space that clearly isn't one.

  --
 *From:* wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
 *To:* kkba...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Cc:* jco...@postandcourier.com
 *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
 *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

 A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the
 National Debt, in just under 3 years.
 Within 4 years, we 

Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread Danny Hearn
I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE , WILL KILL YOU DEAD, 
THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR NOT.

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:15 PM



 
Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas tanks.  :-)  Be it a 
car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple them up for a bit.
 
Lori


On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote:







Hey guys,
 
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me 
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in 
the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I 
pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches 
from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten 
minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time 
and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if they block 
all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it back into 
the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him outside. I 
later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was laughing about 
the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it again. Soin 
short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so 
dirtbags will continue to park
 there. The next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a 
friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.
 
Ron c7   





 
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor vehicles 
gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on them) out 
like candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!

The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually enforced 
or not.  Unfortunately usually not.  
 
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are 
also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not 
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and therefore 
cause many accidents.  The winters here are great except the population doubles 
between October and May or somewhere around there!  Therefore the traffic 
doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know 
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road!  Scary!
 
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state and 
my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to be a 
law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't 
remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree!  At a certain age, 
reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be 
on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.
 
Lori

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled 
spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it 
disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for those individuals who drive 
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.

There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that 
my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around 
looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them.
Quadius


On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:




Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into 
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.  Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).  

One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about 
her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had 
told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots 
available.  Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, don't get me 
started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him the right to 
park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).  Another guy 
with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) actually 
said, you handicapped people think you're so special.  I could go on.  I was 
never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I usually got in 
return was far, far from it.  I guess that reflects the type of people that 
would park in a space that clearly 

Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread Dan

THEY HAVE TO CATCH YOU FIRST ;)


At 04:42 PM 1/25/2009, Danny Hearn said something that elicited my response:

I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE , WILL 
KILL YOU DEAD, THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR NOT.


--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:15 PM


Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas 
tanks.  :-)  Be it a car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple them up for a bit.


Lori

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L PRACHT 
mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.netr.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


Hey guys,

I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that 
happenned to me thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley 
motorcycle was parked in the lined off section between the only two 
handicapped spots they have. I pulled in one of the handicapped 
spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches from the motorcycle. I 
called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten minutes 
later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time 
and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if 
they block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he 
moved it back into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the 
guy and bring him outside. I later found out that the guy didnt 
receive any ticket and was laughing about the situation saying he 
does this all the time and will do it again. Soin short the 
problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so 
dirtbags will continue to park there. The next time this happens I 
wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to kick over the 
20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.


Ron c7

Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of 
motor vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair 
insignias on them) out like candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!


The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are 
actually enforced or not.  Unfortunately usually not.


Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and 
they are also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely 
think yet not recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they 
used to be and therefore cause many accidents.  The winters here are 
great except the population doubles between October and May or 
somewhere around there!  Therefore the traffic doubles and the 
stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know where 
they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road!  Scary!


I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New 
York state and my supervisor would come storming in some morning 
saying There ought to be a law that revokes giving out drivers 
licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't remember now the exact age 
he said but I more than agree!  At a certain age, reflexes have 
slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be on 
the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.


Lori
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius 
mailto:quad...@gmail.comquad...@gmail.com wrote:
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the 
disabled spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't 
have to take it disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for 
those individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with 
the ramp access.


There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible 
spot so that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels 
like to be driving around looking for a parking place while 
nondisabled people are ensconced in them.

Quadius

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn 
mailto:kult...@yahoo.comkult...@yahoo.com wrote:
Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable 
to get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped 
access area.  Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think 
its parkable and policemen will not ticket someone with a placard 
parked there (I've asked them to, as they helped push my van out so 
I could put my ramp down).


One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was 
adamant about her right to park there (with her handicap placard), 
saying a policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when 
there are no other handicap spots available.  Another (able-bodied) 
guy said without apology, don't get me started, my wife has Lou 
Gherig's disease, like that gave him the right to park anywhere in 
a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).  Another guy with a 
placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) 
actually said, you handicapped people think you're so special.  I 
could go on.  I was never anything but respectful in all 

[QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread wheelchair
The legbag trick always works.  empty your legbag under the radiator  and 
then call the police.  Tell the owner that they have something leaking  from 
the 
front of their car.  taste it to be sure
Best Wishes
W
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2009 3:43:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE  , WILL KILL YOU 
DEAD, THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR  NOT.

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson  lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:

From:  Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To:  r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January  25, 2009, 3:15 PM



Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas  tanks.  :-)  Be 
it a car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple  them up for a bit.
 
Lori


On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L  PRACHT _r.pra...@sbcglobal.net_ 
(mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net)  wrote:


Hey guys,
 
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story  that happenned to me 
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters  and a harley motorcycle was parked in 
the lined off section  between the only two handicapped spots they have. I 
pulled in  one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it  was 6 inches 
from the motorcycle. I called the police on  my cell and explained the prob. 
Ten minutes later the officer  arrived and I explained this happens all the 
time and how  people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if  
they 
block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up  then he moved it back 
into the spot then proceded to go in  hooters, find the guy and bring him 
outside. I later found out  that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was 
laughing about  the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it  
again. 
Soin short the problem we have is the cops dont  enforce the lined off 
sections so dirtbags will continue to  park there. The next time this happens I 
wont call the police  I will ry to get a friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar 
bike,  then maybe he will learn.
 
Ron  c7   
 

 
 

Anyway, someone has probably already said this but  the office of motor 
vehicles gives the placards (or licence  plates with wheelchair insignias on 
them) 
out like  candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!

The problem with bills being passed -- is whether  they are actually 
enforced or not.  Unfortunately  usually not.  
 
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement  attraction city and they are 
also giving driver's  licenses out to people who can barely think  yet not 
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as  they used to be and 
therefore 
cause many accidents.   The winters here are great except the population 
doubles  between October and May or somewhere around there!   Therefore the 
traffic 
doubles and the stores are crowded  with some folks who seem not to even know 
where they are let  alone get back to their car and be on the road!   Scary!
 
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living  Center in New York state 
and my supervisor would come  storming in some morning saying There ought to 
be a law  that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of  xx!!! I 
can't remember now the exact age he said  but I more than agree!  At a certain 
age, reflexes have  slowed down significantly enough that they people  should 
not be on the road and are a danger or hazard to  others as well as to 
themselves.
 
Lori

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM,  Quadius _quad...@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:quad...@gmail.com)  wrote:

This  reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in  the 
disabled spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone  with me so I don't have to take 
it 
disabled spots most of  the time.  I really feel for those individuals who  
drive 
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp  access.

There are those occasions where I do need  to park in an accessible spot so 
that my ramp can deploy  properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving  
around looking for a parking place while nondisabled  people are ensconced in 
them.
Quadius

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM,  bob quinn _kult...@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:kult...@yahoo.com)  wrote:


 
Love the idea!  I can't count the number of  times I've been unable to get 
into my van because  someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.   Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its  parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a  placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped  push my van out so I could put my ramp down).   

One woman who left me waiting in the rain until  she returned was adamant 
about her right to park there  (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman 
had told  her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other  handicap 
spots 
available.  Another (able-bodied)  guy said without apology, don't get me 

Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread Danny Hearn
THAT'S RIGHT, CATCH YOU FIRST BUT MOST ALL CRIMINALS THINK THEY GOT AWAY WITH 
CRIME ONLY TO FIND OUT THEY ARE CAUGHT BY AN UNSEEN LOT CAMERA OR AN UNSEEN 
PERSON IN A CAR ROWS AWAY THAT HAPPEN TO HAVE SEEN YOU -- YOUR VEHICLE AND OR 
LISCENCE PLATE ;-) 

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Dan d...@unh.edu wrote:

From: Dan d...@unh.edu
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 4:00 PM


THEY HAVE TO CATCH YOU FIRST ;)


At 04:42 PM 1/25/2009, Danny Hearn said something that elicited my response:
 

I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE , WILL KILL YOU DEAD, 
THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR NOT.

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com

Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:15 PM


 

Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas tanks.  :-)  Be it a 
car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple them up for a bit.

 

Lori


On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net  
wrote:



Hey guys,

 

I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me 
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in 
the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I 
pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches 
from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten 
minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time and 
how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if they block all 
the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it back into the 
spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him outside. I 
later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was laughing about 
the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it again. Soin 
short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so 
dirtbags will continue to park there.
 The next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to 
kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.

 

Ron c7   


 

Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor vehicles 
gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on them) out 
like candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!


The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually enforced 
or not.  Unfortunately usually not.  

 

Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are 
also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not 
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and therefore 
cause many accidents.  The winters here are great except the population doubles 
between October and May or somewhere around there!  Therefore the traffic 
doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know 
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road!  Scary!

 

I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state and 
my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to be a 
law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't 
remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree!  At a certain age, 
reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be 
on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.

 

Lori

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:


This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled 
spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it 
disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for those individuals who drive 
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.


There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that 
my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around 
looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them.

Quadius


On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:


Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into 
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.  Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).  


One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about 
her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had 
told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no 

Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread Dan
I WUS JES CHEKN HIS OL YER ONA AN ON AKSIDNT I SPILT A LIL CLOREN 
INTA DA OL. MY BAD.



At 05:17 PM 1/25/2009, Danny Hearn said something that elicited my response:

THAT'S RIGHT, CATCH YOU FIRST BUT MOST ALL CRIMINALS THINK THEY GOT 
AWAY WITH CRIME ONLY TO FIND OUT THEY ARE CAUGHT BY AN UNSEEN LOT 
CAMERA OR AN UNSEEN PERSON IN A CAR ROWS AWAY THAT HAPPEN TO HAVE 
SEEN YOU -- YOUR VEHICLE AND OR LISCENCE PLATE ;-)


--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Dan d...@unh.edu wrote:
From: Dan d...@unh.edu
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 4:00 PM

THEY HAVE TO CATCH YOU FIRST ;)


At 04:42 PM 1/25/2009, Danny Hearn said something that elicited my response:

I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE , WILL 
KILL YOU DEAD, THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR NOT.


--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:15 PM

Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas 
tanks.  :-)  Be it a car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple them up for a bit.


Lori
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L PRACHT 
mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.netr.pra...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:


Hey guys,

I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that 
happenned to me thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley 
motorcycle was parked in the lined off section between the only two 
handicapped spots they have. I pulled in one of the handicapped 
spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches from the motorcycle. I 
called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten minutes 
later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time 
and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care 
if they block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up 
then he moved it back into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, 
find the guy and bring him outside. I later found out that the guy 
didnt receive any ticket and was laughing about the situation 
saying he does this all the time and will do it again. Soin 
short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off 
sections so dirtbags will continue to park there. The next time 
this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to 
kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.


Ron c7

Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of 
motor vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with 
wheelchair insignias on them) out like candy.  If you have white 
hair -- eligible!
The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are 
actually enforced or not.  Unfortunately usually not.


Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and 
they are also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely 
think yet not recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as 
they used to be and therefore cause many accidents.  The winters 
here are great except the population doubles between October and 
May or somewhere around there!  Therefore the traffic doubles and 
the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know 
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road!  Scary!


I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New 
York state and my supervisor would come storming in some morning 
saying There ought to be a law that revokes giving out drivers 
licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't remember now the exact age 
he said but I more than agree!  At a certain age, reflexes have 
slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be on 
the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.


Lori
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius 
mailto:quad...@gmail.comquad...@gmail.com wrote:
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the 
disabled spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't 
have to take it disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for 
those individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with 
the ramp access.
There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible 
spot so that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels 
like to be driving around looking for a parking place while 
nondisabled people are ensconced in them.

Quadius
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn 
mailto:kult...@yahoo.comkult...@yahoo.com wrote:
Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable 
to get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped 
access area.  Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think 
its parkable and policemen will not ticket someone with a placard 
parked there (I've asked them to, as they helped push my van out so 
I could put my ramp down).
One woman who left me waiting in the 

Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread John S.
Is this the malicous parking law?
 
john


--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: Quadius quad...@gmail.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 6:58 PM



Yeah.
 
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor vehicles 
gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on them) out 
like candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!

The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually enforced 
or not.  Unfortunately usually not.  
 
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are 
also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not 
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and therefore 
cause many accidents.  The winters here are great except the population doubles 
between October and May or somewhere around there!  Therefore the traffic 
doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know 
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road!  Scary!
 
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state and 
my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to be a 
law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't 
remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree!  At a certain age, 
reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be 
on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.
 
Lori

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled 
spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it 
disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for those individuals who drive 
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.

There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that 
my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around 
looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them.
Quadius


On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:




Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into 
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.  Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).  

One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about 
her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had 
told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots 
available.  Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, don't get me 
started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him the right to 
park anywhere in a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site).  Another guy 
with a placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs) actually 
said, you handicapped people think you're so special.  I could go on.  I was 
never anything but respectful in all encounters, but what I usually got in 
return was far, far from it.  I guess that reflects the type of people that 
would park in a space that clearly isn't one.







From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
To: kkba...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jco...@postandcourier.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators





A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off the National 
Debt, in just under 3 years.
Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
Let's get the program in gear!
Best Wishes
W
 

In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/

Bill targets handicapped parking violators
BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
The Post and Courier
Monday, January 19, 2009


Special Section:
Watchdog

People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park in the 
striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And confusion abounds over who 
is responsible for catching violators.

There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap placards, parking in 
spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not entitled to, said 
Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.

Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats, introduced 
a bill last week to create more accountability in the process of acquiring a 
placard. The state Senate already has passed the legislation twice, but the 
bill stalled in the House both times, 

Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread John S.
Do they call it suicide by redneck? Those are the folks on deathrow in Texas. 
you need toi meet some new people. No offence.

john





From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com; Lori Michaelson 
lorilivin...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:42:44 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators


I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE , WILL KILL YOU DEAD, 
THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR NOT.

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:15 PM




Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas tanks.  :-)  Be it a 
car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple them up for a bit.

Lori


On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


Hey guys,

I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me 
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in 
the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I 
pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches 
from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten 
minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time 
and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if they block 
all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it back into 
the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him outside. I 
later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was laughing about 
the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it again. Soin 
short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so 
dirtbags will continue to park
 there. The next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a 
friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.

Ron c7   


Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor vehicles 
gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on them) out 
like candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!

The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually enforced 
or not.  Unfortunately usually not.  

Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are 
also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not 
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and therefore 
cause many accidents.  The winters here are great except the population doubles 
between October and May or somewhere around there!  Therefore the traffic 
doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know 
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road!  Scary!

I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state and 
my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to be a 
law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't 
remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree!  At a certain age, 
reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be 
on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.

Lori

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled 
spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it 
disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for those individuals who drive 
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.

There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that 
my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around 
looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them.
Quadius


On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:

Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into 
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.  Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).  

One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was adamant about 
her right to park there (with her handicap placard), saying a policeman had 
told her it was ok to park there if/when there are no other handicap spots 
available.  Another (able-bodied) guy said without apology, don't get me 
started, my wife has Lou Gherig's disease, like that gave him the right to 
park anywhere in a handicapped zone 

Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators

2009-01-25 Thread Danny Hearn
shoot i know people that served only 8 years for murder !  and are out now 
John  lolalthough i know them well, i choose to hang with my nice church 
folks.    

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: John S. alcibiat...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 6:30 PM






Do they call it suicide by redneck? Those are the folks on deathrow in Texas. 
you need toi meet some new people. No offence.
 
john





From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com; Lori Michaelson 
lorilivin...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:42:44 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators





I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE , WILL KILL YOU DEAD, 
THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR NOT.

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:15 PM



 
Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas tanks.  :-)  Be it a 
car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple them up for a bit.
 
Lori


On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote:







Hey guys,
 
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that happenned to me 
thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley motorcycle was parked in 
the lined off section between the only two handicapped spots they have. I 
pulled in one of the handicapped spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches 
from the motorcycle. I called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten 
minutes later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time 
and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if they block 
all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he moved it back into 
the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the guy and bring him outside. I 
later found out that the guy didnt receive any ticket and was laughing about 
the situation saying he does this all the time and will do it again. Soin 
short the problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so 
dirtbags will continue to park
 there. The next time this happens I wont call the police I will ry to get a 
friend to kick over the 20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.
 
Ron c7   





 
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of motor vehicles 
gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair insignias on them) out 
like candy.  If you have white hair -- eligible!

The problem with bills being passed -- is whether they are actually enforced 
or not.  Unfortunately usually not.  
 
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a retirement attraction city and they are 
also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely think yet not 
recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be and therefore 
cause many accidents.  The winters here are great except the population doubles 
between October and May or somewhere around there!  Therefore the traffic 
doubles and the stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know 
where they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road!  Scary!
 
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New York state and 
my supervisor would come storming in some morning saying There ought to be a 
law that revokes giving out drivers licenses past the age of xx!!! I can't 
remember now the exact age he said but I more than agree!  At a certain age, 
reflexes have slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be 
on the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.
 
Lori

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the disabled 
spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't have to take it 
disabled spots most of the time.  I really feel for those individuals who drive 
or actually need a disabled spots with the ramp access.

There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible spot so that 
my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels like to be driving around 
looking for a parking place while nondisabled people are ensconced in them.
Quadius


On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn kult...@yahoo.com wrote:




Love the idea!  I can't count the number of times I've been unable to get into 
my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped access area.  Even 
non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think its parkable and policemen will 
not ticket someone with a placard parked there (I've asked them to, as they 
helped push my van out so I could put my ramp down).  

One woman who left me waiting 

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Love Those Seinfield Shows-OT

2009-01-25 Thread LadyNotes
A mobile arm support is an OT item.  I used the support when I was  initially 
in the hospital, three years ago, and it was very helpful for me  then.  Now 
that I have my own, which has recently been installed on my  wheelchair, I'm 
hoping to receive the same or better results with it.  My  only problem is 
having someone to correctly set it up for me doing the  day.  Because there are 
so 
many adjustments that can be made on the  support, it is crucial to have it 
initially adjusted properly so the only  adjustments to be made later will be 
adding or removing a rubber band.
 
My left arm is the only arm I have any mobility in, and it is very little  
mobility.  I am unable to raise my arm any higher than my bust line.   But with 
the device.  I am able to turn the light switch off and on,  operate a door 
knob, retrieve mail from the kitchen counter, and even work on my  beaded 
jewelry projects.
 
It may not seem like a lot, but it allows me a significant amount of  
independence by having it available to use.
 
Naomi
C4 quadriplegicdue to Transverse Myelitis
since July 2,  2005  

 
In a message dated 1/24/2009 5:48:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wheelchair  
writes:

Thank You  Naomi.  Was that a OT or PT item, in your  case?  Once again, in 
your case, how does it work for you.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/24/2009 4:38:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,  LadyNotes 
writes:

The BFO is now known as the MAS, Mobile Arm Support.  I have one  that 
attaches to my wheelchair that I use for task work such as reading a  magazine, 
feeding myself, or any other work that requires the use of my  arm.  It can be 
adjusted up, down, or side to side, steel with the use  of rubber bands.
 
Naomi
C4 quadriplegicdue to Transverse Myelitis
since July  2, 2005  

 
In a message dated 1/23/2009 9:13:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wheelch...@aol.com writes:

   
Balanced Forearm Orthosis (BFO), is a device used in rehab. PT or OT  may use 
them to create Zero Gravity on ones arms , using rubber bands as  counter 
tension on the BFO. With Zero weight on the fore limbs, the  patient can begin 
the process of exercise to strengthen  muscles. 
 
By posting BOF, I was hoping that one of the OT or PT would correct  me 
with... 
well you know where I'm going, lol.
 
Did you have any exposure to BFO in rehab?
Best Wishes
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:42:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
quad...@gmail.com writes:

It  really would have been great with cell phones.  I never really  thought 
about that aspect of the show.
I read the story about the Las  Vegas scooters.  I guess that they're willing 
to pay for them, but  then again everyone thinks they're disabled.

Panhandling can be  lucrative in the right spots.  I just read in my local 
paper that  street performers are looking to rent a couch down here during the 
Super  Bowl.  I could make some extra cash, but I don't want somebody I  don't 
know staying in my house.

This is completely unrelated, but  what are BOFs?  I happened to see that 
acronym in one of your  previous e-mails and someone else asked.  I've been in 
his chair  for 13 1/2 years and I've never heard of that  acronym.
Quadius

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:34 PM, _wheelch...@aol.com_ 
(mailto:wheelch...@aol.com)   wrote:


Its a shame that the show ended before cell phones... It would  have been so 
good.
 
Have you heard about those lazy butts who can afford to rent  mobility 
scooters in Las Vegas and dealers willing to rent them for  $40 bucks a day 
without 
asking questions.
 
or the California street beggars that are using hospital grade  wheelchairs 
to beg in with cups. Some can make a couple hundred  dollars a day doing 
this..
 
Kewl, eh?
BestWishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:27:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
_quad...@gmail.com_ (mailto:quad...@gmail.com)  writes:

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking  in the disabled 
spot.  I'm lucky that I have someone with me so  I don't have to take it 
disabled spots most of the time.  I  really feel for those individuals who 
drive 
or actually need a  disabled spots with the ramp  access


 

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