THEY HAVE TO CATCH YOU FIRST ;)
At 04:42 PM 1/25/2009, Danny Hearn said something that elicited my response:
I KNOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU HARM THEIR VEHICLE , WILL
KILL YOU DEAD, THEY DON'T CARE IF YOUR HANDICAPPED OR NOT.
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Lori Michaelson <lorilivin...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Lori Michaelson <lorilivin...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:15 PM
Perhaps always carry a bottle of sugar water to put in gas
tanks. :-) Be it a car, motorcycle, SUV, etc -- cripple them up for a bit.
Lori
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM, RONALD L PRACHT
<<mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>r.pra...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey guys,
I thought I would tell you an interesting parking story that
happenned to me thursday evening. I arrived at hooters and a harley
motorcycle was parked in the lined off section between the only two
handicapped spots they have. I pulled in one of the handicapped
spots unfolded my lift until it was 6 inches from the motorcycle. I
called the police on my cell and explained the prob. Ten minutes
later the officer arrived and I explained this happens all the time
and how people have no respect for the spots andfrankly dont care if
they block all the spots. The officer had me move the van up then he
moved it back into the spot then proceded to go in hooters, find the
guy and bring him outside. I later found out that the guy didnt
receive any ticket and was laughing about the situation saying he
does this all the time and will do it again. So....in short the
problem we have is the cops dont enforce the lined off sections so
dirtbags will continue to park there. The next time this happens I
wont call the police I will ry to get a friend to kick over the
20,000 dollar bike, then maybe he will learn.
Ron c7
Anyway, someone has probably already said this but the office of
motor vehicles gives the placards (or licence plates with wheelchair
insignias on them) out like candy. If you have white hair -- eligible!
The problem with "bills being passed" -- is whether they are
actually enforced or not. Unfortunately usually not.
Us in Phoenix or Tucson live in a "retirement attraction city" and
they are also giving driver's licenses out to people who can barely
think yet not recognize that their reflexes are not as sharp as they
used to be and therefore cause many accidents. The winters here are
great except the population doubles between October and May or
somewhere around there! Therefore the traffic doubles and the
stores are crowded with some folks who seem not to even know where
they are let alone get back to their car and be on the road! Scary!
I remember when I worked for an Independent Living Center in New
York state and my supervisor would come storming in some morning
saying "There ought to be a law that revokes giving out drivers
licenses past the age of xx!!!" I can't remember now the exact age
he said but I more than agree! At a certain age, reflexes have
slowed down significantly enough that they people should not be on
the road and are a danger or hazard to others as well as to themselves.
Lori
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Quadius
<<mailto:quad...@gmail.com>quad...@gmail.com> wrote:
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about George parking in the
disabled spot. I'm lucky that I have someone with me so I don't
have to take it disabled spots most of the time. I really feel for
those individuals who drive or actually need a disabled spots with
the ramp access.
There are those occasions where I do need to park in an accessible
spot so that my ramp can deploy properly, so I know what it feels
like to be driving around looking for a parking place while
nondisabled people are ensconced in them.
Quadius
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, bob quinn
<<mailto:kult...@yahoo.com>kult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Love the idea! I can't count the number of times I've been unable
to get into my van because someone parked in the yellow-striped
access area. Even non-handicapped people (on a motorcycle) think
its parkable and policemen will not ticket someone with a placard
parked there (I've asked them to, as they helped push my van out so
I could put my ramp down).
One woman who left me waiting in the rain until she returned was
adamant about her right to park there (with her handicap placard),
saying a policeman had told her it was ok to park there if/when
there are no other handicap spots available. Another (able-bodied)
guy said without apology, "don't get me started, my wife has Lou
Gherig's disease," like that gave him the right to park anywhere in
a handicapped zone (she was nowhere in site). Another guy with a
placard and no discernible handicaps ('cept for being +300lbs)
actually said, "you handicapped people think you're so special." I
could go on. I was never anything but respectful in all encounters,
but what I usually got in return was far, far from it. I guess that
reflects the type of people that would park in a space that clearly isn't one.
From: "<mailto:wheelch...@aol.com>wheelch...@aol.com"
<<mailto:wheelch...@aol.com>wheelch...@aol.com>
To: <mailto:kkba...@yahoo.com>kkba...@yahoo.com;
<mailto:ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com>ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com;
<mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: <mailto:jco...@postandcourier.com>jco...@postandcourier.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:18:55 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Bill targets handicapped parking violators
A rapid enforcement program of violations and fines, will pay off
the National Debt, in just under 3 years.
Within 4 years, we could pave our highways with yellow bricks too.
Let's get the program in gear!
Best Wishes
W
In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:53:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
<mailto:kkba...@yahoo.com>kkba...@yahoo.com writes:
<http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/>http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/jan/19/bill_targets_handicapped_parking_violato68834/
Bill targets handicapped parking violators
BY JILL COLEY (CONTACT)
The Post and Courier
Monday, January 19, 2009
Special Section:
Watchdog
People use handicap placards that don't belong to them. Drivers park
in the striped access aisles next to designated spaces. And
confusion abounds over who is responsible for catching violators.
"There's a continual problem of people abusing handicap placards,
parking in spaces without a placard or having a placard they're not
entitled to," said Sen. Vincent Sheheen of Camden.
Sheheen and Sen. Dick Elliott of North Myrtle Beach, both Democrats,
introduced a bill last week to create more accountability in the
process of acquiring a placard. The state Senate already has passed
the legislation twice, but the bill stalled in the House both times,
Sheheen said.
Angela Jacildone, state advocacy manager for the mid-Atlantic
chapter of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, said record
keeping is part of the problem.
"There's a disconnect between the forms from the DMV and the
physician who writes the prescription (for the placard)," Jacildone said.
A Watchdog report earlier this year found the Department of Motor
Vehicles does not record physicians' information, leaving no way to
check whether a physician actually filled out the form. The bill
would connect those dots with a form that will stay on file with the DMV.
The proposed law also would redefine a person with a disability.
"The current law may not include a person with Multiple Sclerosis
because they may not look like they have a disease," she said. Many
people with MS suffer fatigue, which worsens throughout the day.
And finally, the legislation would connect the person and the
placard with an identification card, which law enforcement personnel
could look at and match.
Although not part of the proposed law, the MS society would like to
see more clarification in the law regarding who has jurisdiction for
enforcement.
"Some agencies will tell us they will go to business parking lots.
Others say it's private property," Jacildone said.
"We would also like to see more language about access aisles," she said.
Cars sometimes park in the striped areas next to designated spaces.
That aisle is necessary for a person with a disability to get in and
out of their wheelchair or scooter.
Reach Jill Coley at 937-5719 or
<mailto:jco...@postandcourier.com>jco...@postandcourier.com.
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