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I had one contact me a few years back. I agree, it was rather creepy. Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there women devotees lol - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
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I'm contacted quite often. Unfortunately, they are all from a different planet... W In a message dated 3/6/2007 6:47:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had one contact me a few years back. I agree, it was rather creepy. Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there women devotees lol BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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Yes there are, thank you god! john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] devotees I had one contact me a few years back. I agree, it was rather creepy. Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there women devotees lol Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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Women don't need problems, we have them already -it's called violence and rape. It's why we have to be carefull. I think any woman who gets the creeps from someone who has a fetish that involves her disability better listen to her instincts and use her best judgement. We don't need to choose from the bottom of the pile. I'm sure there are some nice devotees out there but it is an entirely different matter for women. The chair turns heads and attracts attention. But once that happens, there are fewer women than men who will pursue someone because they think they might be able to take advantage. It's just the way it is whether we are talking about able bodied people or whatever. This is not to attack the above post, it's just the last one I read in this thread. I have have had men who have been extra weirdly friendly who I avoid and only one online who had a fetish. It's nice for someone to be open about that I guess. If you want to go along with that all I can say is be careful. It seems that usually a person might think Yeah he/she is in a chair AND they are cool and I want to get to know them because of something other than the chair. This seems more healthy...no? On 2/21/07, RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Ive been a quad for 9 years and yes Ive had some women come on to me, and yes at least 2 of them were drawn to the chair. I think this is great, I welcome females to talk to me and possibly do more with me. With all the problems a quad has female or male, how could this even be an issue. I say anyone thats worried about a Devotee needs a real problem Ron c7 -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
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Come on yourself. These people take advantage of us, abuse us physically mentally. They are not friends or care givers. KK
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Devotees and pretenders are fetishesthey need to be locked up! QuadMedic Martin T. Brown Managing Director Radical Holdings (Pty) Ltd T/A Radical Mobility (O) +27 11 664-6069 (F) +27 11 955-3743 (C) 082 500 9406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.radicalmobility.com Engineering Mobility for Accessibility KK wrote: Come on yourself. These people take advantage of us, abuse us physically mentally. They are not friends or care givers. KK
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I hear ya Ron.most the quad men I have met.would not mind if a woman did rape them lolol ;-) Dan RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey, Ive been a quad for 9 years and yes Ive had some women come on to me, and yes at least 2 of them were drawn to the chair. I think this is great, I welcome females to talk to me and possibly do more with me. With all the problems a quad has female or male, how could this even be an issue. I say anyone thats worried about a Devotee needs a real problem Ron c7
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On Feb 22, 2007, at 12:38 AM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote: With all the problems a quad has female or male, how could this even be an issue. I say anyone thats worried about a Devotee needs a real problem this is a group where anyone can voice their concerns and no one, including u, should judge people for those concerns. i have my share of real problems as does any quad. it's not like devotees are a huge concern that i sit around and worry about but it's definitely an issue i wanted to address and see if anyone had experienced the same thing. after reading your response, i think u may be confused -- a devotee is not just a person drawn to the chair -- it's a deeper psychological issue than pure attraction or interest in the chair. most devotees are harmless but what about those who aren't? it's good for us to all be aware, not just for our physical safety, but also emotionally. i, personally, want to build healthy relationships with people, not ones solely based on the fact that i am disabled. =jessica
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In a message dated 2/22/2007 7:50:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: most devotees are harmless but what about those who aren't? it's good for us to all be aware, not just for our physical safety, but also emotionally. i, personally, want to build healthy relationships with people, not ones solely based on the fact that i am disabled. =jessica Good Advice JAG, Women seem to have the power to know when something is not right, and normally have the common sense. Sometimes, due to meds, chemicals and spirits that common sense goes out the window, sometimes. Always be aware of the warnings. W BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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Jessica, This isn't anything new. There are hundreds of websites for Devotees, Pretenders and Wannabes. Devotees, are people who are attracted to people with disabilities. Pretenders, are those who pretend to be disabled. Wannabes, are those who have the desire to be disable, sometimes to the extreme of even amputating their own body parts. I agree, that these people hinder our fight to have people with real disabilities be seen as equal to the non-disable. Naomi C-4 quad since July 2, 2005 Transverse Myelitis BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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Not only are you 100% right, but I am bothered when I'm critisized for not trying to understand them while they get off not understanding reality or the handicapped community. I understand they are handicapped in the sense that they are mentally ill. A desire to disfigure yourself is not a lifestyle choice, and should be treated in the same niche as those wanting to committ suicide not those with a permanent disability. They are a danger to themselves and others and should be treated as such. They should not be assimilated into the handicapped community as anything other than mentally and socially challenged. Not physically handicapped. What happened to me was the result of a drunk driver and the trauma that I went through was completely different than the relief that some wackjob is looking to achieve through some self mutilation. I needed rehab, they need long term observation in a padded cell on a liquid diet, not social acceptance. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] devotees Jessica, This isn't anything new. There are hundreds of websites for Devotees, Pretenders and Wannabes. Devotees, are people who are attracted to people with disabilities. Pretenders, are those who pretend to be disabled. Wannabes, are those who have the desire to be disable, sometimes to the extreme of even amputating their own body parts. I agree, that these people hinder our fight to have people with real disabilities be seen as equal to the non-disable. Naomi C-4 quad since July 2, 2005 Transverse Myelitis AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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PREACH IT JOHN!!
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word up. On 2/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only are you 100% right, but I am bothered when I'm critisized for not trying to understand them while they get off not understanding reality or the handicapped community. I understand they are handicapped in the sense that they are mentally ill. A desire to disfigure yourself is not a lifestyle choice, and should be treated in the same niche as those wanting to committ suicide not those with a permanent disability. They are a danger to themselves and others and should be treated as such. They should not be assimilated into the handicapped community as anything other than mentally and socially challenged. Not physically handicapped. What happened to me was the result of a drunk driver and the trauma that I went through was completely different than the relief that some wackjob is looking to achieve through some self mutilation. I needed rehab, they need long term observation in a padded cell on a liquid! diet, not social acceptance. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] devotees Jessica, This isn't anything new. There are hundreds of websites for Devotees, Pretenders and Wannabes. Devotees, are people who are attracted to people with disabilities. Pretenders, are those who pretend to be disabled. Wannabes, are those who have the desire to be disable, sometimes to the extreme of even amputating their own body parts. I agree, that these people hinder our fight to have people with *real *disabilities be seen as equal to the non-disable. Naomi C-4 quad since July 2, 2005 Transverse Myelitis -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com*http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom. -- *Check out the new AOL*http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller
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this concern is mainly for the ladies on the list but i suppose it could apply to guys as well. regardless of your gender, i'm sure you have an opinion on the matter -- after joining certain groups online (life rolls on, the quad list, quad rugby players, and a few other myspace groups) i have been approached by quite a few guys who call themselves devotees. i had heard about men who are attracted to women w/ disabilities but i didn't know it was so prevalent. for those who aren't familiar w/ the term, read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Attraction_to_disability some of these men are forthcoming about their fetish and others may not even know they fall into the devotee category, or they simply deny it. i am somewhat intrigued by the thoughts, feelings, and backgrounds of these men out of pure curiosity but mostly it makes me angry and i don't understand it at all. a lot of these men are confused at why i would be so appalled, but i just think we, as a disabled community, fight so hard to be seen as equals to the non- disabled, so to be given any attention, whether good or bad, just for being disabled is wrong. these devotee dudes join myspace and if you look through their friend lists, it is all women in wheelchairs. it creeps me out! i just think everyone should be aware of what is going on and if u have a bad feeling about it, don't accept friend requests from them or correspond in any way. anyone have any thoughts on the subject or any experiences at all w/ devotees? =jessica
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Are there women devotees lol
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Yes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:34 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] devotees Are there women devotees lol
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paul, i am not saying in any way that we are not different -- i embrace the things that set me apart from everyone else. i am just saying that just b/c we ARE different doesn't mean we should only be characterized by that difference. there's a lot more to me being me than just a wheelchair. i am surprised u think more women are attracted to men in chairs than vice versa. maybe we both think the way we do b/c we can't experience being the opposite sex so therefore are not aware of the behind-the- scenes things that occur. i think women have an inherent nurturing quality similar to motherhood which attracts them to men w/ disabilities. they are more willing to overlook the obstacles and concentrate on the person in the chair. i think this is a very different thing than devotee-ism. obviously there ARE women devotees but it just seems more frequent in males. out of pure emotional and physical attraction maybe more women are attracted to disabled men than vice versa, but as far as the phenomena of devotee-ism, i think men take the cake. =jessica On Feb 21, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Paul Jacobson wrote: Hi Jessica, I think whether we like it or not...we are different...its hard to ignore a wheelchair. I also think there are far more women who are attracted to guys in wheelchairs then vice versa. What's interesting is that this doesn't have the negative connotation that men seeking disabled women has. Best, Paul - Original Message - From: Jessica Ann Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] devotees this concern is mainly for the ladies on the list but i suppose it could apply to guys as well. regardless of your gender, i'm sure you have an opinion on the matter -- after joining certain groups online (life rolls on, the quad list, quad rugby players, and a few other myspace groups) i have been approached by quite a few guys who call themselves devotees. i had heard about men who are attracted to women w/ disabilities but i didn't know it was so prevalent. for those who aren't familiar w/ the term, read more about it here: http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Attraction_to_disability some of these men are forthcoming about their fetish and others may not even know they fall into the devotee category, or they simply deny it. i am somewhat intrigued by the thoughts, feelings, and backgrounds of these men out of pure curiosity but mostly it makes me angry and i don't understand it at all. a lot of these men are confused at why i would be so appalled, but i just think we, as a disabled community, fight so hard to be seen as equals to the non- disabled, so to be given any attention, whether good or bad, just for being disabled is wrong. these devotee dudes join myspace and if you look through their friend lists, it is all women in wheelchairs. it creeps me out! i just think everyone should be aware of what is going on and if u have a bad feeling about it, don't accept friend requests from them or correspond in any way. anyone have any thoughts on the subject or any experiences at all w/ devotees? =jessica
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I could never fall in love with a woman that would have me for a husband! So, uhm, what exactly seems to be the problem? john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 1:19 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] devotees this concern is mainly for the ladies on the list but i suppose it could apply to guys as well. regardless of your gender, i'm sure you have an opinion on the matter -- after joining certain groups online (life rolls on, the quad list, quad rugby players, and a few other myspace groups) i have been approached by quite a few guys who call themselves devotees. i had heard about men who are attracted to women w/ disabilities but i didn't know it was so prevalent. for those who aren't familiar w/ the term, read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attraction_to_disability some of these men are forthcoming about their fetish and others may not even know they fall into the devotee category, or they simply deny it. i am somewhat intrigued by the thoughts, feelings, and backgrounds of these men out of pure curiosity but mostly it makes me angry and i don't understand it at all. a lot of these men are confused at why i would be so appalled, but i just think we, as a disabled community, fight so hard to be seen as equals to the non-disabled, so to be given any attention, whether good or bad, just for being disabled is wrong. these devotee dudes join myspace and if you look through their friend lists, it is all women in wheelchairs. it creeps me out! i just think everyone should be aware of what is going on and if u have a bad feeling about it, don't accept friend requests from them or correspond in any way. anyone have any thoughts on the subject or any experiences at all w/ devotees? =jessica Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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You can call them whatever you like. There are a lot of people that think theres money in them thar wheels, too. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] devotees Are there women devotees lol Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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There used to be a group on Yahoo groups for these types of guys. Think it is gone now. Had pictures of wheelchair women in nude poses. The fire dept just yesterday told me to take the Invalid sign off my door because I was setting myself up for an abuser to stalk me. These guys are a danger.
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On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could never fall in love with a woman that would have me for a husband! So, uhm, what exactly seems to be the problem? i don't get it
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In a message dated 2/21/2007 12:20:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: anyone have any thoughts on the subject or any experiences at all w/ devotees? =jessica LOL. There are several different kinds of Devotees out there, just ask Anne Niclole Smith. But the point was well made and I think two of the websites were Cripsgonewild.com. Gimpsgonewild.com And I'm sure that there are many other places one to go, but always be cautioned and wise to know what could happen. I've always referred to that as Rollin On The WildSide. W BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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In a message dated 2/21/2007 5:58:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I could never fall in love with a woman that would have me for a husband! So, uhm, what exactly seems to be the problem? i don't get it = I would never join a club, that would have me as a member W BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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Don't worry about it John and W I don't plan on being at MY OWN Funeral. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 2/21/2007 5:58:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could never fall in love with a woman that would have me for a husband! So, uhm, what exactly seems to be the problem? i don't get it = I would never join a club, that would have me as a member W - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
[QUAD-L] Devotees....come on people....
Hey, Ive been a quad for 9 years and yes Ive had some women come on to me, and yes at least 2 of them were drawn to the chair. I think this is great, I welcome females to talk to me and possibly do more with me. With all the problems a quad has female or male, how could this even be an issue. I say anyone thats worried about a Devotee needs a real problem Ron c7
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I know what you're talking about, I remember it but I don't remember the name of it. The fire department was probably correct, but is that our wheelchair ramp in the front yards and our wheelchair equipped van , a great invitation also. Possibly at better sign would be just a handicapped sign, like are used for parking. What do the rest of you think. I used to have one in the parking on for my vehicle too far when I lived in an apartment. Dana There used to be a group on Yahoo groups for these types of guys. Think it is gone now. Had pictures of wheelchair women in nude poses. The fire dept just yesterday told me to take the Invalid sign off my door because I was setting myself up for an abuser to stalk me. These guys are a danger. BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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I have had a concern about devotees and have had several contact me through yahoo messenger. I guess they looked at my profile on yahoo and then they instant messenger. I did however meet a devotee through disabled united that was actually really nice. He had medical problems when he was young. I dont know if that is why but I emailed back and forth with him and he seems to be one of the few that is nice. We decided to be pen pals since he is in Denver and I'm in MD and he is Jewish and wants to find someone also Jewish. Not all of them have bad intentions its just that it is difficult to figure out which ones are good and frankly I'd rather just stay away from them in general because you just don't know. I'm curious to know about other peoples experiences with devotees. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Online Community for Disabled Thanks Erin, My concern has always for the protection of the membership here from a group of devotees, who prey on those who are newly injured or who are living by themselves. Not trying to be over protective, but know of several people that bought the London Bridge last year and they weren't disabled. W In a message dated 1/11/2006 9:25:05 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To W and All, I hear your concerns. I was alsoskeptical at first about sharing things about myself.First of allthere is a legal privacy agreement given by the website. Second of all, you are not required to give any information other than your email address, which you are giving by being part of this list-serve as well. We all must just use our best judgement, just like in the real world. Maybe it can be of help to someone.It can't hurt to check it out. Thanks for your imput. Erin
