Re: [QUAD-L] pressure wound....need help
Royal Jelly is a substance of complex chemical structure produced by the young nurse bees as larva food. Although it is not quite as well known as bee pollen, royal jelly equals pollen in its salutary effects. The young nurse bees make royal jelly, it is a secretion from glands on the tops of their heads. For 2-3 days, royal jelly is the only food given to all young larvae in their maturation process, while for the queen larvae, it is the specific food for their whole life period. During the 3 days in which the worker bee larvae are fed on royal jelly, they reach the maximum development; their weight multiplies about 250 times. The queen (fed only on royal jelly for her entire life) reaches maturity 5 days earlier than the worker bees; and, when she is fully grown, her weight is double that of the working bee. The span of the worker bee's life is about 35-40 days; while the queen lives 5-6 years and is extremely prolific. She is fertilized once, and from that moment on can lay as many as three thousand eggs a day during the season. As incredible as this may seem, she can lay that many eggs for five years. Any creature that has that amount of energy and vitality has to be respected! This rich concentrated food is not just useful for the bees. It contains remarkable amounts of proteins, lipids, glucides, vitamins, hormones, enzymes, mineral substances, and specific vital factors that act as biocatalysts in cell regeneration processes within the human body. Although some of the elements found in royal jelly are in microgram quantities, they still can act supremely with co-enzymes as catalysts or can act synergistically. (That is, the elements' action combined is greater than the sum of their actions taken separately.) Royal jelly is rich in protein, vitamins B-1, B-2, B-6, C, E, niacin, pantothenic acid, biotin, inositol and folic acid. In fact, it contains seventeen times as much pantothenic acid as that found in dry pollen. HEALING AND REJUVENATION PROPERTIES OF ROYAL JELLY Apiculture -- the study of bees and their products is no longer relegated to the status of folk medicine. Since both beekeeping and harvesting of products are carried out under technically advanced conditions, apitherapy has reached the stage of scientific medicine. The general interest in bee products for the treatment and prevention of various ailments on the part of medical practitioners and laymen alike attests to the validity of bee products as health aids. Studies indicate the effectiveness of royal jelly for the following: for tiredness and overwork, asthenia, anxiety states, insomnia and anorexia bronchial asthma liver diseases (hepatitis) pancreatitis general exhaustion diseases arthritis, gout, atherosclerosis kidney diseases stomach ulcers ovarian insufficiency reversing the aging process stimulating and regenerating the nervous system for accelerating the healing and consolidation of fractured bones. skin disorders promotes sexual rejuvenation Since its action seems to be more systemic rather than one which affects a specific biological function, royal jelly has been highly recommended for a large variety of purposes. Nearly all the scientific investigators have agreed upon at least two things: 1. More laboratory and clinical studies are needed and should be made until the whole story of royal jelly is known; and, 2. Nonetheless, royal jelly is a valuable addition to everyone's diet. The Banting Institute of Ontario, on analyzing royal jelly found that it is rich in proteins and vitamins of the B complex and especially in pantothenic acid, the vitamin B which has been associated with longevity and in restoring gray hair to its original color. The United States Department of Agriculture has said that one gram (1/30 oz.) contains the following: Vitamin B1 (Thiamin )-1.5 to 7.4 micrograms Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)-5.3 to 10.0 micrograms Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)-2.2 to 10.2 micrograms Niacin (Nicotinic acid)-91.0 to 149.0 micrograms Pantothenic Acid-65.0 to 200.0 micrograms Biotin-0.9 to 3.7 micrograms Inositol-78.0 to 150.0 micrograms Folic Acid-0.16 to 0.50 micrograms Vitamin C-a trace Vitamin E-none From: daa...@aol.com daa...@aol.com To: alcibiat...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 3:25:53 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pressure woundneed help What is royal jelly? You put it on wounds that are not open or open? Dana
Re: [QUAD-L] pressure wound....need help
In responce to the sore; I strongly feel every quad should be on a low air loss mattress. Four unversities have tested them and concluded that it is the only proactive surface for healing and preventing sores. Call Hill-Rom and ask if they have a nurse in your area. The trick to getting the mattress seems to be in the paperwork. I had a stage 4 wound that healed up in 2 months and I still got in the chair 1 out of three days. There are no pressure points on a low air loss mattress and the constant air keeps the wound dryer but not too dry. Your bodies natural bacteria can work faster to heal the wounds. If your wound is filled with necrotic tissue, maggots can clean it out faster and more effectivly than any other debrieding action. When the wound is clean it will heal without involving a doctor. My nurse would put some Amish super honey in the wound when it needed it. (it has a name but I cannot remember it to save my life) It is called Royal Jelly. I have been getting bee stings for my knees hips and spine for about 3 months. I don't feel it but it costs $5 for 10 stings and I buy honey when I go. When my skin starts to get red areas I have my aid rub honey onto it gently until it is absorbed. Mollasses (sp) is suppose to work, as is processed sugar. The idea is it grows good bacteria faster by bringing oxygen and nutrients into the wound We all have osteo-arthritis. Our bones are chalk-like and cartilage is a joke. New quads should take Glucosamine-condroitin tablets from the begining. The trick to healing a wound quickly is to get rid of the dead tissue without destroying the good bacteria. Never let anyone use Hydrogen Peroxide or anti-bacterial cream or ointment. These products kill the good bacteria with the bad and in most cases the bad bacteria will get back in the wound and set you back months. Nurses, Doctors, and aids often carry bacteria from one patient to the next. Do not feel bad about asking them to wash their hands and use sterile gloves to examine your wound. If I was using the wound vac, I am sure I would want royal jelly in the wound to add oxygen and proteins needed for healing. The idea that a wound will heal fast in an occlusive environment does not make much sense when we have all seen cuts heal fast when left open and no pressure, such as graph sites on top of thighs. Those heal very fast with a mere piece of gause to promote a scab. Royal Jelly helps speed healing and reduce scars. Wound vacs seem to be counter to what we know about healing. If a wound is producing a lot of puss and drainage maybe the bad bacteria and dead tissue have not been cleaned out. Take probiotics now. These also help wounds heal faster. If you think I'm wrong then simply don't do any of these tips. My stage 4 wound healed in 8 weeks and I still got in my chair every 3rd day. Now I am under the radar to keep my low air loss mattress. I know many of you will get flaps and the doctors will buy new hottubs with the money they make on it. If you take large doses of probiotics and clean your wounds gently and use Royal Jelly you should see improvment in days. You can use the vac but I think it will heal faster if you simply minimize pressure on it. I appologize for rambing but I had a wound specialist that turned my stage 2 wound into a stage 4 and wanted to do flap surgery. I had to return to my GP to get the low air loss mattress. He has only seen pictures of the wound as it healed. When your wound doctor says those mattresses are expensive, ask how much he makes for the visits and surgery? If your life is centered on healing your sores then what do you rank your quality of life at? I've been to two wound doctors and both were like going back in time. The same treatments as they have used since WW2. They can use stem cells now. Why don't they talk about it? Do you think a person that wasn't handicapped would consider what you are going through as acceptable treatment? We are treated as though we are all the same. I have talked to quads that have spent over a year in bed. I cannot do that. I don't have a great life but what I have requires me to go out of this place. I wish you a speedy healing process no matter what you choose to do. Sorry if I ran on too much, john From: Steve Crowder dangerwo...@san.rr.com To: Paul Jacobson pjacob...@san.rr.com; Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:41:55 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pressure woundneed help Hello Paul. I'm on the vac right now. I really don't know much about it, but I'll try to explain it. The purpose of it is to suck out all the blood and debris and nasty stuff and keep it healthy and clean and open. It is supposed to be very good for promoting healing and prepare you for eventually doing a flap, which somehow allows the wound to heal. I really don't know much about it. It's all the way over my
RE: [QUAD-L] pressure wound....need help
Actually a wound vac worked extremely well for me. I was pleasantly shocked how quickly I fully healed. ALTHOUGH, the wound was on my stomach (therefore, no daily pressure). Mike~ Please check out my paintings at: www.MurGallery.com -Original Message- From: John S. [mailto:alcibiat...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:40 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pressure woundneed help In responce to the sore; I strongly feel every quad should be on a low air loss mattress. Four unversities have tested them and concluded that it is the only proactive surface for healing and preventing sores. Call Hill-Rom and ask if they have a nurse in your area. The trick to getting the mattress seems to be in the paperwork. I had a stage 4 wound that healed up in 2 months and I still got in the chair 1 out of three days. There are no pressure points on a low air loss mattress and the constant air keeps the wound dryer but not too dry. Your bodies natural bacteria can work faster to heal the wounds. If your wound is filled with necrotic tissue, maggots can clean it out faster and more effectivly than any other debrieding action. When the wound is clean it will heal without involving a doctor. My nurse would put some Amish super honey in the wound when it needed it. (it has a name but I cannot remember it to save my life) It is called Royal Jelly. I have been getting bee stings for my knees hips and spine for about 3 months. I don't feel it but it costs $5 for 10 stings and I buy honey when I go. When my skin starts to get red areas I have my aid rub honey onto it gently until it is absorbed. Mollasses (sp) is suppose to work, as is processed sugar. The idea is it grows good bacteria faster by bringing oxygen and nutrients into the wound We all have osteo-arthritis. Our bones are chalk-like and cartilage is a joke. New quads should take Glucosamine-condroitin tablets from the begining. The trick to healing a wound quickly is to get rid of the dead tissue without destroying the good bacteria. Never let anyone use Hydrogen Peroxide or anti-bacterial cream or ointment. These products kill the good bacteria with the bad and in most cases the bad bacteria will get back in the wound and set you back months. Nurses, Doctors, and aids often carry bacteria from one patient to the next. Do not feel bad about asking them to wash their hands and use sterile gloves to examine your wound. If I was using the wound vac, I am sure I would want royal jelly in the wound to add oxygen and proteins needed for healing. The idea that a wound will heal fast in an occlusive environment does not make much sense when we have all seen cuts heal fast when left open and no pressure, such as graph sites on top of thighs. Those heal very fast with a mere piece of gause to promote a scab. Royal Jelly helps speed healing and reduce scars. Wound vacs seem to be counter to what we know about healing. If a wound is producing a lot of puss and drainage maybe the bad bacteria and dead tissue have not been cleaned out. Take probiotics now. These also help wounds heal faster. If you think I'm wrong then simply don't do any of these tips. My stage 4 wound healed in 8 weeks and I still got in my chair every 3rd day. Now I am under the radar to keep my low air loss mattress. I know many of you will get flaps and the doctors will buy new hottubs with the money they make on it. If you take large doses of probiotics and clean your wounds gently and use Royal Jelly you should see improvment in days. You can use the vac but I think it will heal faster if you simply minimize pressure on it. I appologize for rambing but I had a wound specialist that turned my stage 2 wound into a stage 4 and wanted to do flap surgery. I had to return to my GP to get the low air loss mattress. He has only seen pictures of the wound as it healed. When your wound doctor says those mattresses are expensive, ask how much he makes for the visits and surgery? If your life is centered on healing your sores then what do you rank your quality of life at? I've been to two wound doctors and both were like going back in time. The same treatments as they have used since WW2. They can use stem cells now. Why don't they talk about it? Do you think a person that wasn't handicapped would consider what you are going through as acceptable treatment? We are treated as though we are all the same. I have talked to quads that have spent over a year in bed. I cannot do that. I don't have a great life but what I have requires me to go out of this place. I wish you a speedy healing process no matter what you choose to do. Sorry if I ran on too much, john _ From: Steve Crowder dangerwo...@san.rr.com To: Paul Jacobson pjacob...@san.rr.com; Lori Michaelson lorilivin...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:41:55 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pressure woundneed help Hello Paul. I'm on the vac
Re: [QUAD-L] pressure wound....need help
Hello Paul. I'm on the vac right now. I really don't know much about it, but I'll try to explain it. The purpose of it is to suck out all the blood and debris and nasty stuff and keep it healthy and clean and open. It is supposed to be very good for promoting healing and prepare you for eventually doing a flap, which somehow allows the wound to heal. I really don't know much about it. It's all the way over my head. I'm told this is the third and final attempt at getting one to work on in the same difficult spot. I'm prepared to do whatever I must within my abilities, otherwise I'm a goner. As for the Clinitron, it is just what you said -- an alternating pressure - Original Message - From: Paul Jacobson To: Lori Michaelson ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] pressure woundneed help HI THERE...I have a Stage 3 wound on the back of my leg. So no w/c.just bed to keep pressure off. Has anyone used a wound-vac? Results? How about flap surgery? Also need to get a Clinitron alternating pressure bedanyone ever use one? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP! Paul c5/6 - Original Message - From: Lori Michaelson To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Syrinx I agree totally with Tod below. And, even though I am not male, my symptoms began with lower abdominal PAIN whereby I could hardly think. SYRINGOMYELIA sux big time. Lori On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Tod E. Santee sant...@cox.net wrote: Ron David (mrpockets_2000): ... I *do* know very few neurosurgeons will will work on a high-cord syrinx solely because of pain. If loss of function begins and continues, that's a bit different. There are just far too many risks for doing cervical cord surgery just because of pain. They'd prefer narcotics and high pain tolerance. Lower thoracic and lumbar syrinxs are more likely to be treated surgically if pain is the issue... but still mostly as a last resort. Beware the doc who suggests surgery before anything else is tried!! David... as for the pain in the groin area.. OUCH! I know! I get it pretty bad, too, even though I've had the syrinx / cord-untethering surgery. I've explained it more like riding a seatless bike, sitting on just the seat post, while hitting several speed bumps. Does that sound like a familiar feeling? Man -- If ANYONE ever comes up with a cure, drug or treatment for that... sign me up! Best to All! --Tod RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote: with a syrinx at c1 c2 neuros wont operate unless things get really bad, like function loss. the key is never operate above your level of injury. the syrinx can cause pain in abdomen and back , because yours is higher the neck area is probally affected. depnding on where you are in the states i would see out a specialist to give you an opinion. ron c7 --- On Sun, 8/23/09, David mrpockets_2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: David mrpockets_2...@yahoo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Syrinx To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 9:42 PM I've had a syrinx located at C1/C2 and because the doctors say that there is a pretty good chance of me ending up on a vent, I have elected to avoid surgery at this time. For those of you males who might have a syrinx, do you experience a lot if neuro-pathic pain between your shoulder blades and especially in the groin area. I feel lie there is someone pushing on my groin. Every time I go to push my manual wheelchair iI feel like my bladder is going to lose control because of the pressure on it. And there are times that my body feels lie it burning from the inside out. David B. -- Lori Age - 45 C4/5 complete quad, nearly 30 years post Tucson, AZ
