Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [QUAD-L] Problems with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13… I just had to reinstall 12.5

2017-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
I've been using some form of "Dragon" since I believe it was called ViaVoice by 
IBM. Somewhere along the line they became DragonDictate, which was extremely 
stable, easy to use, and worked really well. I don't know how many times the 
product has been sold but eventually it became Dragon NaturallySpeaking 
(differently named under v15) and was tailored more for commercial than private 
use. That was the "downfall." But I work 40 hours a week without the use of my 
hands and need the product. If I eventually have to go to something completely 
different, I will, but until then I'll take my chances with "Dragon." Seems to 
me that a lot of the problems it has has to do with continuously upgraded 
computer software. For example, "Dragon" seems to work best with Internet 
Explorer, browser-wise, but I've found out, if accurate, that without Adobe 
Acrobat, I've had issues. I moved to Firefox but simply ran into other 
problems. Lately I've been using Chrome and it's been tolerable. With regards 
to Nuance's customer support, I won't use the kind of language I should. They 
suck and have for as long as I can remember. My hope is that the product gets 
sold to some company that cares as much about the product being used by 
individuals with disabilities as it does the commercial use of its product. Jeff

  From: Billy Lang <blan...@icloud.com>
 To: DEBRA DEW <n14...@hotmail.com> 
Cc: quad-list <quad-list@eskimo.com>
 Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 10:45 AM
 Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: [QUAD-L] Problems with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13… I 
just had to reinstall 12.5
   
Guys,
I’m a little late answering this post because I was hospitalized for a while. 
I’m better now so here goes:Nuance as the company has turned the corner from 
being the premier voice software to becoming a mega marketing platform. None of 
the speech products are up to production code. Personally I am using voice for 
Mac professional and over the last 6 months I’ve had at least 700 crashes. He 
version 5 of the program was so bad • that they had pull it back from 
production. That did not mean giving everyone their money back and just put out 
a version 6 and charge everyone $249 for an upgrade. That upgrade was 
unintelligible until version 6.02, which only crashed every 30 minutes.
It wasn’t merely time-consuming going from release to release but it meant 
training and retraining every version that came out. I am currently running 
6.07 and it does not crash as much as long as I do not have too many things on 
the screen at the same time. It seems that Dragon must keep its eye on every 
button, link or words in its memory in order to navigate properly.
You are not the only one who has mistakingly upgraded their equipment due to 
Nuance malfeasance. Their user forum, once a place to solve problems or share 
experiences just mysteriously closed down when user population use the forum 
for nothing but suing Nuance for false advertising and loss hours of production.
This was not the only people who are buying $300-$400 one time boxes. The 
lawyers and doctors who pay thousands of dollars to build the practices upon 
which recognition of also lost out.
The competition is starting to squeeze Nuance out on the voice recognition 
arena.  Programs like Siri and Alexa are already composing messages small 
emails. Ready for prime time voice recognition for the desktop is almost here. 
Patients and don’t buy any more hardware if you suspect it will make Nuance any 
better.

 Billy

On Nov 2, 2017, at 11:42 AM, DEBRA DEW <n14...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I bought the fastest Dell computer I could about six months ago to be able to 
run Dragon naturally speaking 13 optimally, and at least once a month it was 
crashing so badly I had to have a computer guy come fix it will.  Aside from 
the fact that I could've bought another computer for the money I spent on 
repairs, I finally got the brilliant idea after reinstalling Windows and 
everything else repeatedly that that was not the problem and I suspected 
something was wrong with the Dragon 13 program.  So although they had my 
computer for over a week, I finally got it back last week with 12.5 reinstalled 
and so far no crashes.  The only difference I can tell in the two programs is 
that with Dragon 13 trading the profile was not required, but that only took me 
a few minutes anyway so that's really not an issue to me.  I never had 
recognition issues with either program unless the profile was becoming 
corrupted and then all I did was make a new profile.  Not a big deal.
I just wanted to share this with you guys in case you were not aware of it.  
Obviously Dragon has a monopoly and they do not care about their customers 
satisfaction any longer.  It would've been very graciously polite they would 
share the news about their newest release not being so hot, and saved us a lot 
of difficulties figuring out what was going on.
http://www.knowbr

[QUAD-L] RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [QUAD-L] Problems with Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13. I just had to reinstall 12.5

2017-11-02 Thread Raymond Kelly
I have been using knowbrainer along with NaturallySpeaking for several years
now. I find it VERY helpful. I probably don't use 1% of its capabilities,
but I wouldn't know what to do without it. Like it said the program is free
to anybody with disabilities. Proving that you are disabled is not a hard
job. I strongly recommend to anybody who uses NaturallySpeaking very much to
get the knowbrainer software. While I am at it there is one more aftermarket
program that goes by the name of SpeechStart +. I don't know if that is free
to disabled people are not. Even if it isn't it doesn't cost much. I find
that program very useful also. If you looked it up on the Internet you will
see how useful it is. The main part of it that I really like is that if
NaturallySpeaking freezes up you can restart Dragon totally by voice. There
are some other neat little features, but that is the main one I use. I hope
this helps with your decision.
Kelray

Has anybody tried knowbrainer's software? Here's a page that says persons
with a disability can get a free copy, wonder if it's too good to be true,
usually somewhat expensive.

http://www.knowbrainer.com/core/pages/freeKB.cfm

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:42 AM, DEBRA DEW  wrote:
I bought the fastest Dell computer I could about six months ago to be able
to run Dragon naturally speaking 13 optimally, and at least once a month it
was crashing so badly I had to have a computer guy come fix it will.  Aside
from the fact that I could've bought another computer for the money I spent
on repairs, I finally got the brilliant idea after reinstalling Windows and
everything else repeatedly that that was not the problem and I suspected
something was wrong with the Dragon 13 program.  So although they had my
computer for over a week, I finally got it back last week with 12.5
reinstalled and so far no crashes.  The only difference I can tell in the
two programs is that with Dragon 13 trading the profile was not required,
but that only took me a few minutes anyway so that's really not an issue to
me.  I never had recognition issues with either program unless the profile
was becoming corrupted and then all I did was make a new profile.  Not a big
deal.

I just wanted to share this with you guys in case you were not aware of it.
Obviously Dragon has a monopoly and they do not care about their customers
satisfaction any longer.  It would've been very graciously polite they would
share the news about their newest release not being so hot, and saved us a
lot of difficulties figuring out what was going on.

http://www.knowbrainer.com/forums/forum/messageview.cfm?FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=L
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